Trump vs. Biden Part 2

[houndawg]

and "Americans" are the population of two continents.

Not one South American refers to himself as an American

Go Argentina!! They finally have a leader

You don't know that.

[Caribbean Hen]

Not one South American refers to himself as an American

Go Argentina!! They finally have a leader

You don't know that.

Just like Puerto Ricans, who are actually US citizens, would never refer to themselves as an American… well except for the day there benefits are delivered into the bank account

[UNI88]

[UNI88]

7 Democrats who could replace Biden if he drops his 2024 reelection bid

1. Vice President Kamala Harris
2. Gov. Gavin Newsom of California
3. Gov. Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan
4. Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota
5. Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey
6. Gov. Roy Cooper of North Carolina
7. Gov. Wes Moore of Maryland

[BDKJMU]

https://x.com/RNCResearch/article/1799823541308727627

[Caribbean Hen]

https://x.com/RNCResearch/article/1799823541308727627

Biden is a sleazebag

If you don’t like America, he’s your guy

[UNI88]

https://x.com/RNCResearch/article/1799823541308727627

You're calling retired U.S. Marine Corps general John Kelly a liar?

“What can I add that has not already been said?” Kelly said, when asked if he wanted to weigh in on his former boss in light of recent comments made by other former Trump officials. “A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’ A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family – for all Gold Star families – on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France.

“A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women,” Kelly continued. “A person that has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what America is all about. A person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peacetime and war should lose his life for treason – in expectation that someone will take action. A person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.

“There is nothing more that can be said,” Kelly concluded. “God help us.”

In the statement, Kelly is confirming, on the record, a number of details in a 2020 story in The Atlantic by editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg, including Trump turning to Kelly on Memorial Day 2017, as they stood among those killed in Afghanistan and Iraq in Section 60 at Arlington National Cemetery, and saying, “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?”

Exclusive: John Kelly goes on the record to confirm several disturbing stories about Trump

Did trump not say "I like people who weren't captured" when talking about John McCain? Who's a loser? The guy who was shot down and captured, and risked his life and health to protect other POWS or the guy who's daddy paid a doctor to diagnose him with bone spurs so he wouldn't have to serve?

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[BDKJMU]

https://x.com/RNCResearch/article/1799823541308727627

You're calling retired U.S. Marine Corps general John Kelly a liar?

“What can I add that has not already been said?” Kelly said, when asked if he wanted to weigh in on his former boss in light of recent comments made by other former Trump officials. “A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’ A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family – for all Gold Star families – on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France.

“There is nothing more that can be said,” Kelly concluded. “God help us.”

In the statement, Kelly is confirming, on the record, a number of details in a 2020 story in The Atlantic by editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg, including Trump turning to Kelly on Memorial Day 2017, as they stood among those killed in Afghanistan and Iraq in Section 60 at Arlington National Cemetery, and saying, “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?”

Exclusive: John Kelly goes on the record to confirm several disturbing stories about Trump

We’ve been through this before in regards to the ‘suckers and losers’ hoax. Reading is fundamental. Read what Kelly said. Kelly never said he heard Trump say what the alleged anonymous sources from that Atlantic article claimed Trump said in France. People who were there with Trump said they didn’t hear Trump say it. The ‘suckers and losers’ story is another democrat hoax, just like the ‘very fine people’ Charlottesville hoax.

As far as the Afghanistan and Iraq statement, “What was in it for them” (being in Afghanistan and Iraq) is a legit queation. Many people feel we never should have invaded (esp Iraq), and those lives were needlessly sacrificed. Certainly debatable.

[UNI88]

You're calling retired U.S. Marine Corps general John Kelly a liar?

Exclusive: John Kelly goes on the record to confirm several disturbing stories about Trump

We’ve been through this before in regards to the ‘suckers and losers’ hoax. Reading is fundamental. Read what Kelly said. Kelly never said he heard Trump say what the alleged anonymous sources from that Atlantic article claimed Trump said in France. People who were there with Trump said they didn’t hear Trump say it. The ‘suckers and losers’ story is another democrat hoax, just like the ‘very fine people’ Charlottesville hoax.

As far as the Afghanistan and Iraq statement, “What was in it for them” (being in Afghanistan and Iraq) is a legit queation. Many people feel we never should have invaded (esp Iraq), and those lives were needlessly sacrificed. Certainly debatable.

"What was in it for them" was a really crappy question to ask in front of a man who had lost his son in Afghanistan. It's also a question you could ask of almost any war.

You continue to try and discredit trump's disparagement of veterans in general and POWs in particular by focusing on a few contested statements while trying to deflect attention from the entire body of ol' bone spur's words. His attitude towards McCain and other comments give credence to the disputed statements.

Anyone who bought the 2020 election was stolen hoax fed to them by the individual who did the most to actually try and steal the election has no room to talk about other so-called hoaxes.

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Polling guru floats the idea of Biden dropping out: At some point 'continuing to run is a bigger risk'

"If I'd told you 10 years ago a president would seek re-election at 81 despite a supermajority of Americans having concerns about his age, and then we'd hit 8% inflation for 2 years, you wouldn't be surprised he was an underdog for reelection. You'd be surprised it was even close!," he said.

Responding to a critic who accused him of focusing too much on why Biden should drop out and not enough on former President Trump, Silver said he believed Trump should also bow out of the race.

"'Trump should drop out too!' is such [a] weird dunk on people who are pointing out that Biden has big challenges. Yes, Trump should drop out! I agree! Biden would lose by 7 points [against a different candidate], but I agree, the Republican Party and the country would be better served by a different nominee." Silver wrote.

Biden and some of his top advisors reportedly don't believe the bad poll numbers.

[Caribbean Hen]

Polling guru floats the idea of Biden dropping out: At some point 'continuing to run is a bigger risk'

"If I'd told you 10 years ago a president would seek re-election at 81 despite a supermajority of Americans having concerns about his age, and then we'd hit 8% inflation for 2 years, you wouldn't be surprised he was an underdog for reelection. You'd be surprised it was even close!," he said.

Responding to a critic who accused him of focusing too much on why Biden should drop out and not enough on former President Trump, Silver said he believed Trump should also bow out of the race.

"'Trump should drop out too!' is such [a] weird dunk on people who are pointing out that Biden has big challenges. Yes, Trump should drop out! I agree! Biden would lose by 7 points [against a different candidate], but I agree, the Republican Party and the country would be better served by a different nominee." Silver wrote.

Biden and some of his top advisors reportedly don't believe the bad poll numbers.

He forgot his end of the bargain
go back to 2020 and the deal was he was a one term president

Now somebody has to tell the vindictive old belligerent payaso that he’s not the guy

[BDKJMU]

We’ve been through this before in regards to the ‘suckers and losers’ hoax. Reading is fundamental. Read what Kelly said. Kelly never said he heard Trump say what the alleged anonymous sources from that Atlantic article claimed Trump said in France. People who were there with Trump said they didn’t hear Trump say it. The ‘suckers and losers’ story is another democrat hoax, just like the ‘very fine people’ Charlottesville hoax.

As far as the Afghanistan and Iraq statement, “What was in it for them” (being in Afghanistan and Iraq) is a legit queation. Many people feel we never should have invaded (esp Iraq), and those lives were needlessly sacrificed. Certainly debatable.

"What was in it for them" was a really crappy question to ask in front of a man who had lost his son in Afghanistan. It's also a question you could ask of almost any war.

You continue to try and discredit trump's disparagement of veterans in general and POWs in particular by focusing on a few contested statements while trying to deflect attention from the entire body of ol' bone spur's words. His attitude towards McCain and other comments give credence to the disputed statements.

Anyone who bought the 2020 election was stolen hoax fed to them by the individual who did the most to actually try and steal the election has no room to talk about other so-called hoaxes.

‘What was in it for them" don’t think you could say about any war, but coukd about Nam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. If Kelly lost his son in Afghanistan then yeah he shouldn’t have said it in front of Kelly.

The McCain thing Trump shouldn’t have said, but that was during a nasty back and forth between McCain amd Trump where McCain and his camp said some nasty things about Trump.

The one the donks keep trying to milk is the ‘suckers and losers’ alleged quote. There’s NO ONE who has come on record and said they heard Trump say in France the ‘suckers and losers’ quote. That includes Bolton, who hates Trump.

[Skjellyfetti]

What can I add that has not already been said?

A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’ A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family – for all Gold Star families – on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France.

A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women. A person that has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what America is all about. A person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peacetime and war should lose his life for treason – in expectation that someone will take action. A person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.

There is nothing more that can be said. God help us.

[houndawg]

"What was in it for them" was a really crappy question to ask in front of a man who had lost his son in Afghanistan. It's also a question you could ask of almost any war.

You continue to try and discredit trump's disparagement of veterans in general and POWs in particular by focusing on a few contested statements while trying to deflect attention from the entire body of ol' bone spur's words. His attitude towards McCain and other comments give credence to the disputed statements.

Anyone who bought the 2020 election was stolen hoax fed to them by the individual who did the most to actually try and steal the election has no room to talk about other so-called hoaxes.

‘What was in it for them" don’t think you could say about any war, but coukd about Nam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. If Kelly lost his son in Afghanistan then yeah he shouldn’t have said it in front of Kelly.

The McCain thing Trump shouldn’t have said, but that was during a nasty back and forth between McCain amd Trump where McCain and his camp said some nasty things about Trump.

The one the donks keep trying to milk is the ‘suckers and losers’ alleged quote. There’s NO ONE who has come on record and said they heard Trump say in France the ‘suckers and losers’ quote. That includes Bolton, who hates Trump.

You don't believe that either?

How about the Gold Star family he went after on TV right in front of god and everybody? Democrat hoax?

[kalm]

7 Democrats who could replace Biden if he drops his 2024 reelection bid

1. Vice President Kamala Harris
2. Gov. Gavin Newsom of California
3. Gov. Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan
4. Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota
5. Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey
6. Gov. Roy Cooper of North Carolina
7. Gov. Wes Moore of Maryland

I’m not familiar with Cooper or Moore, but otherwise…ugh.

Draft Jon Stewart.

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There’s one urgent issue neither candidate is seriously addressing in 2024

Arguing Trump is “unfit” for office, Ryan, a Republican who represented the battleground state of Wisconsin in Congress, said on Fox News this week that he’ll write in some other Republican – a conservative rather than a populist like Trump.
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“I would prefer a party that is based on principles, not personality or populism,” Ryan said, describing himself as “an anti-establishment Republican at this time.”
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Like many Americans, Ryan said he isn’t happy with either of the major-party candidates, but he has a very specific reason for concern. It’s worth taking a closer look at his important point.

“They’re both promising not to tackle the debt,” Ryan said, coming back to the issue that has animated his political career.

“All the First World countries have the same issue we have: baby boomers retiring and unfunded entitlements coming due, and massive amount of debt,” he said, referring to Social Security and Medicare, on which millions of aging Americans rely for their quality of life but which also eat up a growing portion of federal spending.

Who would have thought that Paul Ryan would be an anti-establishment Republican.

[houndawg]

You're calling retired U.S. Marine Corps general John Kelly a liar?



Exclusive: John Kelly goes on the record to confirm several disturbing stories about Trump

We’ve been through this before in regards to the ‘suckers and losers’ hoax. Reading is fundamental. Read what Kelly said. Kelly never said he heard Trump say what the alleged anonymous sources from that Atlantic article claimed Trump said in France. People who were there with Trump said they didn’t hear Trump say it. The ‘suckers and losers’ story is another democrat hoax, just like the ‘very fine people’ Charlottesville hoax.

As far as the Afghanistan and Iraq statement, “What was in it for them” (being in Afghanistan and Iraq) is a legit queation. Many people feel we never should have invaded (esp Iraq), and those lives were needlessly sacrificed. Certainly debatable.

Yes, debatable indeed - and it wasn't your crowd asking why we were invading Iraq when Osama bin Laden was in a different country.

History shows your crowd here was vigorously sucking off Cheney and Rumsfeld at the time.

[Caribbean Hen]

We’ve been through this before in regards to the ‘suckers and losers’ hoax. Reading is fundamental. Read what Kelly said. Kelly never said he heard Trump say what the alleged anonymous sources from that Atlantic article claimed Trump said in France. People who were there with Trump said they didn’t hear Trump say it. The ‘suckers and losers’ story is another democrat hoax, just like the ‘very fine people’ Charlottesville hoax.

As far as the Afghanistan and Iraq statement, “What was in it for them” (being in Afghanistan and Iraq) is a legit queation. Many people feel we never should have invaded (esp Iraq), and those lives were needlessly sacrificed. Certainly debatable.

Yes, debatable indeed - and it wasn't your crowd asking why we were invading Iraq when Osama bin Laden was in a different country.

History shows your crowd here was vigorously sucking off Cheney and Rumsfeld at the time.

Osama was already dead when we invaded Iraq

Buried at sea my ass

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Yes, debatable indeed - and it wasn't your crowd asking why we were invading Iraq when Osama bin Laden was in a different country.

History shows your crowd here was vigorously sucking off Cheney and Rumsfeld at the time.

Osama was already dead when we invaded Iraq

Buried at sea my ass

Are saying 2011 was before 2003?

Iraq was invaded while Dubya was Potus (2003).osama was killed while Obama was POTUS (2011).

[Caribbean Hen]

Osama was already dead when we invaded Iraq

Buried at sea my ass

Are saying 2011 was before 2003?

Iraq was invaded while Dubya was Potus (2003).osama was killed while Obama was POTUS (2011).

When was Tora Bora ?

[UNI88]

Are saying 2011 was before 2003?

Iraq was invaded while Dubya was Potus (2003).osama was killed while Obama was POTUS (2011).

When was Tora Bora ?

Google is your friend.

[UNI88]

I'm a veteran who voted for Trump twice and then supported Nikki Haley. I'm seriously considering Biden over the 'autocrat.'

I voted for Donald Trump twice. It's clear now that his behavior is one of the greatest threats to the Constitution we've ever seen. But for a few words in the 14th Amendment, he wouldn't even be eligible to be a candidate.

We're seeing it in real time. I don't want to be a part of that. We are not an autocracy. I don't know whether I can vote for Joe Biden. And yes, his age is a legitimate concern. Father Time is undefeated. But if I've got a choice between an autocrat and someone of his age, I'm not choosing the autocrat. No, sir, no, thank you.

Trump began losing me when he started the shenanigans after he lost the 2020 election — all that weird stuff leading up to January 6, 2021. And if it hadn't been for then-Vice President Mike Pence, who is a great man, we would have been at a constitutional crossroads.

The former president will say anything, and he'll do it with a straight face. He reminds me of P.T. Barnum; there's a sucker born every minute. You just have to do your research. He's done tremendous damage to himself. Not once has he accepted any accountability for the messes he's gotten himself into.

Trump's a felon now, though I thought the New York case was the weakest one against him. Honestly, having handled classified documents in my military career, I looked at the list of things they found in the pool house and by the toilet. I was like, "My goodness, he's in a heap of trouble here. You can't explain that away." He had multiple opportunities to gracefully return those documents.

Trump's treatment of Nikki Haley made it even worse
I don't like how Trump treated Nikki Haley: the name-calling, what he said about her husband when he was deployed. My goodness, he never finds the high ground. She's one of the smartest people you'll come around who understands all these issues. But she doesn't play to the left; MAGA hates her.

I was stung when she endorsed him. I had to give it a little bit of reflection. I've watched the video several times. She has to remain politically viable moving forward. She is fundamentally a Republican. In the big picture, she never pretended that she was anything else. And she said that it was her personal choice. She gave the caveat in there that she encouraged him to reach out to his voters. In retrospect, he's had all this time to reach out to the over 4 million Haley voters. He's never done it. The Biden campaign has.
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I'm an old-school Reagan fan, and Haley is a genuine Republican. She understands the importance of Ukraine. She understands the importance of how we project our foreign policy. And if you think about it, there's a lot of crossover there that the current administration is trying to do. Trump being elected would be a disaster for Ukraine. Forty-six Republicans voted against funding NATO — that scares the devil out of me. It's like no one is paying attention to the things that are really important. We want democracy, we want liberty, and we want freedom to flourish, because that's what true American values are. We don't want to send American troops to fight over there.

Nails it.

[kalm]

It’s a race of diminishing cognition!

June 14, 2024
HEATHER COX RICHARDSON
JUN 15

Today, former president Trump turned 78. For his birthday, Representative Greg Steube (R-FL) introduced a bill to name 4,383,000 square miles of the coastal waters off the United States over which the U.S. has sole authority, a region called the exclusive economic zone, the “Donald John Trump Exclusive Economic Zone of the United States.”

A less welcome present was that the chief executive officers who attended a meeting with Trump in Washington yesterday told reporters they found him uninformed and unfocused. Christina Wilkie and Brian Schwartz of CNBC noted that the attendees dislike the Biden administration’s enforcement of antitrust laws, its price caps on drugs and medical products, and its promise of progressive tax policy and like Trump’s promise to slash regulations and cut taxes, so they went into the meeting hoping to support him.

One CEO left the meeting with the takeaway that “Trump doesn’t know what he’s talking about,” and several, Andrew Ross Sorkin of CNBC reported, said that he “was remarkably meandering, could not keep a straight thought [and] was all over the map.” He could not explain how he planned to accomplish any of the policies he was proposing. When asked why he had chosen a policy of bringing the corporate tax rate down to 20%, he allegedly answered: “Well, it’s a round number.”

No one applauded Trump, attendees reported, in striking contrast to reports of the enthusiasm of Republican lawmakers yesterday. This difference underscores that Trump likely intended yesterday’s grandstanding to send a political message that Republican members of Congress support him despite his criminal convictions, while the lawmakers themselves were trying to show party unity at a time when they are bitterly divided

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