The socialist playbook to take down the USA

[Caribbean Hen]

It only takes 3 seconds

I know you operatives are already very familiar with Coach Saul and his socialist playbook … but which one of the plays in not in play today? None

The elitist class wants so much to control you

Healthcare

Poverty

Debt

Gun control

Welfare

Education

Religion

Class warfare perpetrated by the 4th estate

[kalm]

It only takes 3 seconds

I know you operatives are already very familiar with Coach Saul and his socialist playbook … but which one of the plays in not in play today? None

The elitist class wants so much to control you

Healthcare

Poverty

Debt

Gun control

Welfare

Education

Religion

Class warfare perpetrated by the 4th estate

Saul Alinsky?

Dammit! I hate it when those “elitist” mega-corporations who own the “4th Estate” join forces with the working class!

[UNI88]

It only takes 3 seconds

I know you operatives are already very familiar with Coach Saul and his socialist playbook … but which one of the plays in not in play today? None

The elitist class wants so much to control you

Healthcare

Poverty

Debt

Gun control

Welfare

Education

Religion

Class warfare perpetrated by the 4th estate

Change the last point to "Class warfare perpetrated by social media and echo chambers" and that looks amazingly like the fascist playbook.

[Caribbean Hen]

It only takes 3 seconds

I know you operatives are already very familiar with Coach Saul and his socialist playbook … but which one of the plays in not in play today? None

The elitist class wants so much to control you

Healthcare

Poverty

Debt

Gun control

Welfare

Education

Religion

Class warfare perpetrated by the 4th estate

Change the last point to "Class warfare perpetrated by social media and echo chambers" and that looks amazingly like the fascist playbook.

The 4th Estate is why Echo chambers exist young man…

[kalm]

Change the last point to "Class warfare perpetrated by social media and echo chambers" and that looks amazingly like the fascist playbook.

The 4th Estate is why Echo chambers exist young man…

CH, what is your definition of the 4th estate? Historically and current and whether and how it’s changed over time?

[UNI88]

The 4th Estate is why Echo chambers exist young man…

CH, what is your definition of the 4th estate? Historically and current and whether and how it’s changed over time?

The 4th estate is media that tells the truth about trump but not about biden.

I'm not sure which upsets MAQA yahoos more - them not telling the truth about biden or them telling the truth about trump.

[Caribbean Hen]

The 4th Estate is why Echo chambers exist young man…

CH, what is your definition of the 4th estate? Historically and current and whether and how it’s changed over time?

You

[kalm]

CH, what is your definition of the 4th estate? Historically and current and whether and how it’s changed over time?

You

So you honestly don’t know what the 4th estate is do ya? Just find a phrase you fancy and throw like shit against a wall to see if it sticks…

[Caribbean Hen]

You

So you honestly don’t know what the 4th estate is do ya? Just find a phrase you fancy and throw like shit against a wall to see if it sticks…

And if you had any self awareness you would totally get why you are the little finger of the long arm of the fourth estate

[kalm]

So you honestly don’t know what the 4th estate is do ya? Just find a phrase you fancy and throw like shit against a wall to see if it sticks…

And if you had any self awareness you would totally get why you are the little finger of the long arm of the fourth estate

Right…so like I said, you really had no clue what the 4th estate is or its importance.

Keep slinging those insults, slugger.

[houndawg]

It only takes 3 seconds

I know you operatives are already very familiar with Coach Saul and his socialist playbook … but which one of the plays in not in play today? None

The elitist class wants so much to control you

Healthcare

Poverty

Debt

Gun control

Welfare

Education

Religion

Class warfare perpetrated by the 4th estate

Saul Alinsky?

Dammit! I hate it when those “elitist” mega-corporations who own the “4th Estate” join forces with the working class!

The Alinsky/Murdoch axis of evil - cum fundum no habes, caela est terminus

[kalm]

A really good piece on why Harris should continue to embrace real populism (not the red hat type). And polling has agreed for quite some time now. More of that socialism garbage the left wants to force on you!

“Therein lies the rub: Harris’s politics, style, and coterie of confidants seem to align with Obama’s. But as Joe Biden’s VP, she was second-in-command in an administration that aspired to shepherd the country toward a post-neoliberal consensus defined by trust busting, innovative industrial policy, and a reinvigorated labor movement. And with Tim Walz at her side, she can mount a serious attempt to create a multiracial, cross-class coalition that could expand the left-liberal tent, claw back the rightward list of non-college-educated voters, and usher in a fairer economy for American workers. This is the kind of hope Obama traded on in 2008, and the kind of change he failed to deliver over his two terms. The populist mantle is hers for the taking, if she wants it. The puzzle is: Does she? Or will Harris and her campaign follow Obama and double down on corporate technocracy?

Centrists have predictably encouraged Harris to eschew the populist impulses of the current commander in chief and to moderate: New York magazine’s Jonathan Chait insists that a return to “Obamaism” can “save” the Democrats and help deliver Harris to the White House. But this advice ignores the fact that the public, on both sides of the aisle, has spent nearly 10 years pushing for a populist remake of American politics. If voters have become annoyed with the excesses of left-wing cultural politics, they have continued to embrace a left-wing economic posture. Bernie Sanders may have lost his battles for the Democratic nomination, but in some sense he won the broader ideological war. Even the right now pays lip service to fighting corporations and economic “elites.”

Harris should seize the opportunity to fully embrace left-wing populism because—despite all the punditry’s moaning about the need to “moderate”—populist policies are actually popular: 65 percent of Americans (including 40 percent of Republicans) say the federal government has a responsibility to make sure that all Americans have health care, 63 percent say that attending public colleges should be free, and another 63 percent (including 51 percent of Republicans) say that banks need to be more heavily regulated. In a country defined by spiraling cultural polarization, these are views—views that would have once been tarred as “far left”—that many of us can agree on.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... cs/679492/

[Bobcat]

So you honestly don’t know what the 4th estate is do ya? Just find a phrase you fancy and throw like shit against a wall to see if it sticks…

And if you had any self awareness you would totally get why you are the little finger of the long arm of the fourth estate

Yep, hes too busy projecting then reflecting

[kalm]

And if you had any self awareness you would totally get why you are the little finger of the long arm of the fourth estate

Yep, hes too busy projecting then reflecting

[Caribbean Hen]

And if you had any self awareness you would totally get why you are the little finger of the long arm of the fourth estate

Yep, hes too busy projecting then reflecting

Truth

[UNI88]

Yep, hes too busy projecting then reflecting

Truth

And ironic.

[Caribbean Hen]

Truth

And ironic.

Nope

I don’t project the holier than thou attitude …

I’m here to learn but let’s be honest, Kalm is good at being wrong

[UNI88]

And ironic.

Nope

I don’t project the holier than thou attitude …

I’m here to learn but let’s be honest, Kalm is good at being wrong

kalm is good at being wrong but he's right sometimes and he's more willing to reflect and adjust his opinions then the majority of MAQA yahoos. We won't even get into the projection aspects. It could take hours with Dr. Bench to unravel all of MAQA yahoo projections and insecurities.

[Caribbean Hen]

Nope

I don’t project the holier than thou attitude …

I’m here to learn but let’s be honest, Kalm is good at being wrong

kalm is good at being wrong but he's right sometimes and he's more willing to reflect and adjust his opinions then the majority of MAQA yahoos. We won't even get into the projection aspects. It could take hours with Dr. Bench to unravel all of MAQA yahoo projections and insecurities.

Yea I’ve seen him admit he’s wrong….Kind of

A month later we all learn he didn’t learn anything as he tries the same old plays once again

[UNI88]

kalm is good at being wrong but he's right sometimes and he's more willing to reflect and adjust his opinions then the majority of MAQA yahoos. We won't even get into the projection aspects. It could take hours with Dr. Bench to unravel all of MAQA yahoo projections and insecurities.

Yea I’ve seen him admit he’s wrong….Kind of

A month later we all learn he didn’t learn anything as he tries the same old plays once again

That's an ironic post coming from someone who's go to for 4 years has been "joey rotten" blah, blah, blah.

[UNI88]

A really good piece on why Harris should continue to embrace real populism (not the red hat type). And polling has agreed for quite some time now. More of that socialism garbage the left wants to force on you!

“Therein lies the rub: Harris’s politics, style, and coterie of confidants seem to align with Obama’s. But as Joe Biden’s VP, she was second-in-command in an administration that aspired to shepherd the country toward a post-neoliberal consensus defined by trust busting, innovative industrial policy, and a reinvigorated labor movement. And with Tim Walz at her side, she can mount a serious attempt to create a multiracial, cross-class coalition that could expand the left-liberal tent, claw back the rightward list of non-college-educated voters, and usher in a fairer economy for American workers. This is the kind of hope Obama traded on in 2008, and the kind of change he failed to deliver over his two terms. The populist mantle is hers for the taking, if she wants it. The puzzle is: Does she? Or will Harris and her campaign follow Obama and double down on corporate technocracy?

Centrists have predictably encouraged Harris to eschew the populist impulses of the current commander in chief and to moderate: New York magazine’s Jonathan Chait insists that a return to “Obamaism” can “save” the Democrats and help deliver Harris to the White House. But this advice ignores the fact that the public, on both sides of the aisle, has spent nearly 10 years pushing for a populist remake of American politics. If voters have become annoyed with the excesses of left-wing cultural politics, they have continued to embrace a left-wing economic posture. Bernie Sanders may have lost his battles for the Democratic nomination, but in some sense he won the broader ideological war. Even the right now pays lip service to fighting corporations and economic “elites.”

Harris should seize the opportunity to fully embrace left-wing populism because—despite all the punditry’s moaning about the need to “moderate”—populist policies are actually popular: 65 percent of Americans (including 40 percent of Republicans) say the federal government has a responsibility to make sure that all Americans have health care, 63 percent say that attending public colleges should be free, and another 63 percent (including 51 percent of Republicans) say that banks need to be more heavily regulated. In a country defined by spiraling cultural polarization, these are views—views that would have once been tarred as “far left”—that many of us can agree on.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... cs/679492/

I disagree. Her talk of price controls, down payment assistance, etc. might appeal to the progressive base but I think it will be a turn off to the moderate/centrist voters she needs to win the battleground states. I know it makes her significantly less appealing to me.

[Bobcat]

And ironic.

Nope

I don’t project the holier than thou attitude …

I’m here to learn but let’s be honest, Kalm is good at being wrong

Kalm is the Joe Biden of wrong. Jordanesque

[Caribbean Hen]

Nope

I don’t project the holier than thou attitude …

I’m here to learn but let’s be honest, Kalm is good at being wrong

Kalm is the Joe Biden of wrong. Jordanesque

[kalm]

A really good piece on why Harris should continue to embrace real populism (not the red hat type). And polling has agreed for quite some time now. More of that socialism garbage the left wants to force on you!

“Therein lies the rub: Harris’s politics, style, and coterie of confidants seem to align with Obama’s. But as Joe Biden’s VP, she was second-in-command in an administration that aspired to shepherd the country toward a post-neoliberal consensus defined by trust busting, innovative industrial policy, and a reinvigorated labor movement. And with Tim Walz at her side, she can mount a serious attempt to create a multiracial, cross-class coalition that could expand the left-liberal tent, claw back the rightward list of non-college-educated voters, and usher in a fairer economy for American workers. This is the kind of hope Obama traded on in 2008, and the kind of change he failed to deliver over his two terms. The populist mantle is hers for the taking, if she wants it. The puzzle is: Does she? Or will Harris and her campaign follow Obama and double down on corporate technocracy?

Centrists have predictably encouraged Harris to eschew the populist impulses of the current commander in chief and to moderate: New York magazine’s Jonathan Chait insists that a return to “Obamaism” can “save” the Democrats and help deliver Harris to the White House. But this advice ignores the fact that the public, on both sides of the aisle, has spent nearly 10 years pushing for a populist remake of American politics. If voters have become annoyed with the excesses of left-wing cultural politics, they have continued to embrace a left-wing economic posture. Bernie Sanders may have lost his battles for the Democratic nomination, but in some sense he won the broader ideological war. Even the right now pays lip service to fighting corporations and economic “elites.”

Harris should seize the opportunity to fully embrace left-wing populism because—despite all the punditry’s moaning about the need to “moderate”—populist policies are actually popular: 65 percent of Americans (including 40 percent of Republicans) say the federal government has a responsibility to make sure that all Americans have health care, 63 percent say that attending public colleges should be free, and another 63 percent (including 51 percent of Republicans) say that banks need to be more heavily regulated. In a country defined by spiraling cultural polarization, these are views—views that would have once been tarred as “far left”—that many of us can agree on.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... cs/679492/

I disagree. Her talk of price controls, down payment assistance, etc. might appeal to the progressive base but I think it will be a turn off to the moderate/centrist voters she needs to win the battleground states. I know it makes her significantly less appealing to me.

Fair. It depends on how many populist votes comprise the moderate/centrist set. One advantage is it would suggest a possible decoupling from the neo-liberal dominance in both parties that began a bit under Biden and has continued with her VP pick. Working class economics are far more popular than tax cuts for the wealthy.

[UNI88]

I disagree. Her talk of price controls, down payment assistance, etc. might appeal to the progressive base but I think it will be a turn off to the moderate/centrist voters she needs to win the battleground states. I know it makes her significantly less appealing to me.

Fair. It depends on how many populist votes comprise the moderate/centrist set. One advantage is it would suggest a possible decoupling from the neo-liberal dominance in both parties that began a bit under Biden and has continued with her VP pick. Working class economics are far more popular than tax cuts for the wealthy.

I would guess that populists are drawn to the far right or far left and that there aren't a lot of moderate/centrist populists but I could be wrong.