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∞∞∞ wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 7:58 pm We just witnessed elder abuse.
I’ll tell you what it was. It was spears of terra. Terra!
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∞∞∞ wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 7:58 pm We just witnessed elder abuse.
Well 81 million loved an old incompetent toxic fool
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It’s true!

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Re: Trump vs Harris

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Caribbean Hen wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 7:58 pm We just witnessed elder abuse.
Well 81 million loved an old incompetent toxic fool
In case you don’t understand what Trip was saying if this were a play the part of jill biden would be played by kamala harris and the part of joe biden would be played by doneOLD trump.

Hope that helps! :D
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Re: Trump vs Harris

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Overseas on vacation. Didn’t watch the debate.But like I thought, sounds like it was 3 on 1. Fact checking Trump right and left, not doing the same for Commiela.
ABC News 'Moderators' Made a Joke of the Presidential Debate

…When Harris made false statements during the debate, they weren't on issues where she could claim she was simply mistaken. As our Nick Arama detailed, Harris:

Repeated the "bloodbath" lie,
Claimed that couples are currently being denied IVF treatment due to "Trump Abortion Ban" laws,
Said Trump would sign a national abortion ban,
Claimed that Project 2025 is Donald Trump's plan,
Repeated the "fine people on both sides" lie,
Lied about the Supreme Court's ruling on presidential immunity,
Said Trump would "terminate" the Constitution if he's re-elected,
Talked out of both sides of her mouth about the Afghanistan withdrawal and whose plan it was,
Asserted that 140 police officers were hurt by violent rallygoers on January 6, 2021,
... and more.
Not to mention Harris' lies about her own origin story and policies.

Davis and Muir sat silent.…
https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2024/09 ... e-n2179168

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Re: Trump vs Harris

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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 12:26 am Overseas on vacation. Didn’t watch the debate.But like I thought, sounds like it was 3 on 1. Fact checking Trump right and left, not doing the same for Commiela.
ABC News 'Moderators' Made a Joke of the Presidential Debate

…When Harris made false statements during the debate, they weren't on issues where she could claim she was simply mistaken. As our Nick Arama detailed, Harris:

Repeated the "bloodbath" lie,
Claimed that couples are currently being denied IVF treatment due to "Trump Abortion Ban" laws,
Said Trump would sign a national abortion ban,
Claimed that Project 2025 is Donald Trump's plan,
Repeated the "fine people on both sides" lie,
Lied about the Supreme Court's ruling on presidential immunity,
Said Trump would "terminate" the Constitution if he's re-elected,
Talked out of both sides of her mouth about the Afghanistan withdrawal and whose plan it was,
Asserted that 140 police officers were hurt by violent rallygoers on January 6, 2021,
... and more.
Not to mention Harris' lies about her own origin story and policies.

Davis and Muir sat silent.…
https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2024/09 ... e-n2179168

And she pulled out all the old debunked bull shit
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Re: Trump vs Harris

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UNI88 wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:26 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote:
Well 81 million loved an old incompetent toxic fool
In case you don’t understand what Trip was saying if this were a play the part of jill biden would be played by kamala harris and the part of joe biden would be played by doneOLD trump.

Hope that helps! :D
No need for help. You’ve already been diagnosed with extreme TDS
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Gil Dobie wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:46 am
houndawg wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 5:48 am


...in a deep red state? No shit? :roll:
Half the people I spoke with were from Minnesota. Conversation included shooting wolves that were killing calves, DNR shooting bear families that destroyed corn crops, and farmers that keep blanketing their fields with chemicals suggested by government agronomist, polluting the land, rivers and our bodies. One guy had shot 20 wolves, his buddy 40, all in Minnesota.
Domestic dogs kill more calves than wolves but the wolf people pay for calves killed by wolves so everything is a wolf kill.
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Re: Trump vs Harris

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 4:18 am
UNI88 wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:26 pm

In case you don’t understand what Trip was saying if this were a play the part of jill biden would be played by kamala harris and the part of joe biden would be played by doneOLD trump.

Hope that helps! :D
No need for help. You’ve already been diagnosed with extreme TDS
Trump Dementia Syndrome - its gaining momentum as the slope of his decline continues to increase and we see in real time a tired old retread who wouldn't make it to the next mid-term if by some fluke he were elected. Sad.
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Re: Trump vs Harris

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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 12:26 am Overseas on vacation. Didn’t watch the debate.But like I thought, sounds like it was 3 on 1. Fact checking Trump right and left, not doing the same for Commiela.
ABC News 'Moderators' Made a Joke of the Presidential Debate

…When Harris made false statements during the debate, they weren't on issues where she could claim she was simply mistaken. As our Nick Arama detailed, Harris:

Repeated the "bloodbath" lie,
Claimed that couples are currently being denied IVF treatment due to "Trump Abortion Ban" laws,
Said Trump would sign a national abortion ban,
Claimed that Project 2025 is Donald Trump's plan,
Repeated the "fine people on both sides" lie,
Lied about the Supreme Court's ruling on presidential immunity,
Said Trump would "terminate" the Constitution if he's re-elected,
Talked out of both sides of her mouth about the Afghanistan withdrawal and whose plan it was,
Asserted that 140 police officers were hurt by violent rallygoers on January 6, 2021,
... and more.
Not to mention Harris' lies about her own origin story and policies.

Davis and Muir sat silent.…
https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2024/09 ... e-n2179168

That article needs to be fact checked. :lol:

The commentators I’m seeing have it at 2-3 actual fact checks of Trump to 1 for Harris. He was also allowed to speak 9:00 more than she was. He continuously interrupted and talked out of turn. Like the 2nd grader he is.

It wasn’t 3 on 1. It was 1 on 1. Trump vs the truth. They could have fact checked his ass all night. He did it to himself.

Just ask Abdul…the leader of the Taliban. :lol:
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Re: Trump vs Harris

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kalm wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 5:02 am
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 12:26 am Overseas on vacation. Didn’t watch the debate.But like I thought, sounds like it was 3 on 1. Fact checking Trump right and left, not doing the same for Commiela.


https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2024/09 ... e-n2179168

That article needs to be fact checked. :lol:

The commentators I’m seeing have it at 2-3 actual fact checks of Trump to 1 for Harris. He was also allowed to speak 9:00 more than she was. He continuously interrupted and talked out of turn. Like the 2nd grader he is.

It wasn’t 3 on 1. It was 1 on 1. Trump vs the truth. They could have fact checked his ass all night. He did it to himself.

Just ask Abdul…the leader of the Taliban. :lol:
The leader of the Taliban would tell you that Harris Biden have allowed them to invite terrorist networks into Afghanistan again that are planning to kill Americans, a den of evil at the hands of the worthless Biden administration
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houndawg wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 4:44 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 4:18 am

No need for help. You’ve already been diagnosed with extreme TDS
Trump Dementia Syndrome - its gaining momentum as the slope of his decline continues to increase and we see in real time a tired old retread who wouldn't make it to the next mid-term if by some fluke he were elected. Sad.
I told you back in July who was going to win
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 5:15 am
houndawg wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 4:44 am

Trump Dementia Syndrome - its gaining momentum as the slope of his decline continues to increase and we see in real time a tired old retread who wouldn't make it to the next mid-term if by some fluke he were elected. Sad.
I told you back in July who was going to win
No you didn't. I already knew. :coffee:
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 12:26 am Overseas on vacation. Didn’t watch the debate.But like I thought, sounds like it was 3 on 1. Fact checking Trump right and left, not doing the same for Commiela.
ABC News 'Moderators' Made a Joke of the Presidential Debate

…When Harris made false statements during the debate, they weren't on issues where she could claim she was simply mistaken. As our Nick Arama detailed, Harris:

Repeated the "bloodbath" lie,
Claimed that couples are currently being denied IVF treatment due to "Trump Abortion Ban" laws,
Said Trump would sign a national abortion ban,
Claimed that Project 2025 is Donald Trump's plan,
Repeated the "fine people on both sides" lie,
Lied about the Supreme Court's ruling on presidential immunity,
Said Trump would "terminate" the Constitution if he's re-elected,
Talked out of both sides of her mouth about the Afghanistan withdrawal and whose plan it was,
Asserted that 140 police officers were hurt by violent rallygoers on January 6, 2021,
... and more.
Not to mention Harris' lies about her own origin story and policies.

Davis and Muir sat silent.…
https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2024/09 ... e-n2179168

He was the one doing the lying and the mods repeatedly turned his mic back on after the subject was changed to give him the final word.

I suppose you could argue that allowing him to speak at all was doing Kamala's work for her...
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houndawg wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 5:17 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 5:15 am

I told you back in July who was going to win
No you didn't. I already knew. :coffee:
Did you need Rachel to tell you?
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 5:14 am
kalm wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 5:02 am

That article needs to be fact checked. :lol:

The commentators I’m seeing have it at 2-3 actual fact checks of Trump to 1 for Harris. He was also allowed to speak 9:00 more than she was. He continuously interrupted and talked out of turn. Like the 2nd grader he is.

It wasn’t 3 on 1. It was 1 on 1. Trump vs the truth. They could have fact checked his ass all night. He did it to himself.

Just ask Abdul…the leader of the Taliban. :lol:
The leader of the Taliban would tell you that Harris Biden have allowed them to invite terrorist networks into Afghanistan again that are planning to kill Americans, a den of evil at the hands of the worthless Biden administration
Abdul. His name is Abdul.

And he’s now working with the Biden administration to bring in terrorists in order to kill Americans?

Ok. :lol:
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kalm wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 5:56 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 5:14 am

The leader of the Taliban would tell you that Harris Biden have allowed them to invite terrorist networks into Afghanistan again that are planning to kill Americans, a den of evil at the hands of the worthless Biden administration
Abdul. His name is Abdul.

And he’s now working with the Biden administration to bring in terrorists in order to kill Americans?

Ok. :lol:
You totally do not know how to read

:lol:

Everything you say needs to be debunked because you are the little finger on the long arm of the fourth estate
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 6:09 am
kalm wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 5:56 am

Abdul. His name is Abdul.

And he’s now working with the Biden administration to bring in terrorists in order to kill Americans?

Ok. :lol:
You totally do not know how to read

:lol:

Everything you say needs to be debunked because you are the little finger on the long arm of the fourth estate
Read what you wrote as many times as you need. :lol:
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Wait! Trumps debate coaches were Matt Gaetz, Tulsi Gabbard, and Laura Loomer?

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kalm wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 6:16 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 6:09 am

You totally do not know how to read

:lol:

Everything you say needs to be debunked because you are the little finger on the long arm of the fourth estate
Read what you wrote as many times as you need. :lol:
Being incompetent and does not equal
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OMG you are such twisted nutbag :lol:
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I actually watched much of this debate.
  • When doneOLD went first, moderators repeatedly gave him the opportunity to respond after harris spoke (i.e. he frequently spoke last on a topic).
  • harris did a good job of being composed and positive. She also did well at getting under doneOLD's skin, getting him off message and making him scowl.
  • harris was light on policy details.
  • I'm not sure if doneOLD can take advantage of this considering he's been talking about replacing ObamaCare for 8 years and when asked for a plan all he could say was that they have concepts or something like that.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:05 am [*]I'm not sure if donOLD can take advantage of this considering he's been talking about replacing ObamaCare for 8 years and when asked for a plan all he could say was that they have concepts or something like that.[/list]
"Concepts of a plan" - what I tell bosses when I haven't started on my work.

Also I couldn't stop laughing when he claimed he saved Obamacare. I was texting with a friend during the debate and we were dumbfounded...like WTF kind of alternate reality is this guy living in. I'm glad Harris set the record straight on that one.

Eating cats and dogs was Grade A comedy though. :lol:
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 7:53 am
kalm wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 6:16 am

Read what you wrote as many times as you need. :lol:
Being incompetent and does not equal
working with

OMG you are such twisted nutbag :lol:
Oh! That’s what you meant by “allowed”!

:lol:

Who coerced the Afghan government to release 5,000 Taliban? Or are the Taliban no longer terrorists but freedom fighters again?
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The leader of the Taliban would tell you that Harris Biden have allowed them to invite terrorist networks into Afghanistan again that are planning to kill Americans, a den of evil at the hands of the worthless Biden administration
Abdul. His name is Abdul.

And he’s now working with the Biden administration to bring in terrorists in order to kill Americans?

Ok. :lol:
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:05 am I actually watched much of this debate.
  • When doneOLD went first, moderators repeatedly gave him the opportunity to respond after harris spoke (i.e. he frequently spoke last on a topic).
  • harris did a good job of being composed and positive. She also did well at getting under doneOLD's skin, getting him off message and making him scowl.
  • harris was light on policy details.
  • I'm not sure if doneOLD can take advantage of this considering he's been talking about replacing ObamaCare for 8 years and when asked for a plan all he could say was that they have concepts or something like that.
I think I watched all but the first 20 minutes - DVR was funky last night.

The biggest win for Harris is that she looked competent. She didn't really flub much, she looked composed, and spoke pretty well. She had to look like she could be President and she certainly looked like she could. Her biggest weaknesses are that she doesn't have a lot of details about pretty much anything and that she has to distance herself or defend herself for the current administration's woes. She danced around that sufficiently in this debate.

For Trump, well, he was Trump. Petulant, juvenile, and rambling. In his defense, he basically looked and acted like he always does. He's never been a policy wonk, obviously, so he's not terribly good at talking about policy. But last night won't make people who've ever voted for him or were leaning for him already not to vote for him in November. His flaw last night was that he didn't really hit on Harris's weaknesses until his closing statement. You could hear the spin folks after the debate say a lot of the stuff Trump could've said during the debate, but since he's so volatile he never got around to it.

Debates, unless you have a Biden debacle, tend not to have huge impacts anymore. Partisans on either side won't be impacted by last night, Trump didn't win any new folks to his side last night, and Harris might've. In what's bound to be a super tight election, that could mean something if enough of those folks live in the battleground states.
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