The Ukraine Crisis

[SeattleGriz]

If you didn't think they had a chance, which I didn't, then why are you continuously against its quick end?

Nobody is against a quick end except the guy that could make one happen tomorrow by withdrawing his invading force....

Uh huh. Bitch please. So Ukrainians have to die because "Putin bad"?

Russia was willing. Your girlfriend BoJo put the nix on the deal.

You see how many multinational companies now own parts of Ukraine?

[houndawg]

Nobody is against a quick end except the guy that could make one happen tomorrow by withdrawing his invading force....

Uh huh. Bitch please. So Ukrainians have to die because "Putin bad"?

Russia was willing. Your girlfriend BoJo put the nix on the deal.

You see how many multinational companies now own parts of Ukraine?

Thats some feeble shit, SG, even with a bar as low as yours,

[UNI88]

Looks like russia is going to have to wrap this up soon so they can denazify the US ...

[UNI88]

Who is Alexey Anpilogov?

[SeattleGriz]

Uh huh. Bitch please. So Ukrainians have to die because "Putin bad"?

Russia was willing. Your girlfriend BoJo put the nix on the deal.

You see how many multinational companies now own parts of Ukraine?

Thats some feeble shit, SG, even with a bar as low as yours,

Nice try. You didn't give two shits about the 15k in Ukrainians killed by their own government. You also didn't give a shit Ukraine increased its shelling of the Donbass to force them to ask for help.

You were just fine with Ukrainians dying then and you still are.

[houndawg]

Thats some feeble shit, SG, even with a bar as low as yours,

Nice try. You didn't give two shits about the 15k in Ukrainians killed by their own government. You also didn't give a shit Ukraine increased its shelling of the Donbass to force them to ask for help.

You were just fine with Ukrainians dying then and you still are.

yep....feeble...

...this is going to end just like the Soviet Union Putin wants to reconstitute ended....here on a Friday, gone on a Monday..

[BDKJMU]

Wonder what all the Putin Hawks and the ra ra Ukraine crowd thinks of one of the most infamous arms dealers being set free for a WNBA player.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/08/europe/v ... index.html

And he’s back to arms trafficking. 10 million in automatic weapons to the Houthis.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pu ... r-AA1rNKsT

[SeattleGriz]

Exactly. All you stupid shits supporting this war. Ain't no skin off you, so who gives a shit

Klan, Uni St Behar, HDoge, GF and SkaJelly.

https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/p ... al-ukraine

[Skjellyfetti]

The article says that the West should have supported Ukraine more. I agree. You do not.


And this was a good zinger. Lol

Zelensky would have much to fear from a deal negotiated by Trump. The 2020 Doha Accords with the Afghan Taliban have been described as the worst diplomatic agreement since Munich in 1938.

[SeattleGriz]

The article says that the West should have supported Ukraine more. I agree. You do not.


And this was a good zinger. Lol

Zelensky would have much to fear from a deal negotiated by Trump. The 2020 Doha Accords with the Afghan Taliban have been described as the worst diplomatic agreement since Munich in 1938.

I'm so glad it's just numbers to you. You sound like a swell humanitarian.

[Skjellyfetti]

Just numbers to me? Lol

As I said on day one:

Putin has lost it. This is obviously terrible for Ukraine and they are royally fucked. But, there is no way this ends as a positive for Russia either. Absolute senselessness.

Taking in my in laws who are GTFO of Russia after their interviews in Uzbekistan. Her uncle has been MIA for months (he's dead). Her cousin has been living in a hotel in Poland with 3 kids while her husband has been getting shelled for 3 years, but is thankfully still alive.

You're the one that justifies this dumbass war with trite Russian propaganda that even educated Russians can see through.

[SeattleGriz]

Just numbers to me? Lol

As I said on day one:

Putin has lost it. This is obviously terrible for Ukraine and they are royally fucked. But, there is no way this ends as a positive for Russia either. Absolute senselessness.

Taking in my in laws who are GTFO of Russia after their interviews in Uzbekistan. Her uncle has been MIA for months (he's dead). Her cousin has been living in a hotel in Poland with 3 kids while her husband has been getting shelled for 3 years, but is thankfully still alive.

You're the one that justifies this dumbass war with trite Russian propaganda that even educated Russians can see through.

Bitch please. Go fuck yourself and then open a history book. You're uninformed and unhinged rantings match perfectly with the MSM talking points. Just like Russia collusion. You'd think that you had learned a lesson by trotting out bullshit, but apparently not

Where were you when Ukraine was killing it's own citizens starting in 2014. You didn't say shit.

[kalm]

Just numbers to me? Lol

As I said on day one:


Taking in my in laws who are GTFO of Russia after their interviews in Uzbekistan. Her uncle has been MIA for months (he's dead). Her cousin has been living in a hotel in Poland with 3 kids while her husband has been getting shelled for 3 years, but is thankfully still alive.

You're the one that justifies this dumbass war with trite Russian propaganda that even educated Russians can see through.

Bitch please. Go fuck yourself and then open a history book. You're uninformed and unhinged rantings match perfectly with the MSM talking points. Just like Russia collusion. You'd think that you had learned a lesson by trotting out bullshit, but apparently not

Where were you when Ukraine was killing it's own citizens starting in 2014. You didn't say shit.

This a rather unpleasant post even for you. You should talk to someone about your anger.

[SeattleGriz]

Bitch please. Go fuck yourself and then open a history book. You're uninformed and unhinged rantings match perfectly with the MSM talking points. Just like Russia collusion. You'd think that you had learned a lesson by trotting out bullshit, but apparently not

Where were you when Ukraine was killing it's own citizens starting in 2014. You didn't say shit.

This a rather unpleasant post even for you. You should talk to someone about your anger.

Are you kidding me? I've been on here from the start advocating for this war to be over. Jelly doesn't get to rewrite history.

[Bobcat]

Cheaneys need the war in Ukraine. Thats really why they push so hard against Trump because they know he will shut that shit down in a few weeks.

BlackRock, Haliburton, Bidens, Cheneys etc all need this war to continue to make the money that they value so much over other peoples lives.

[SeattleGriz]

Cheaneys need the war in Ukraine. Thats really why they push so hard against Trump because they know he will shut that shit down in a few weeks.

BlackRock, Haliburton, Bidens, Cheneys etc all need this war to continue to make the money that they value so much over other peoples lives.

Around 28% of arable land is owned by Oligarchs and multinational companies. Amazing what taking a $15 billion IMF loan forces a country to do. Russia's $15 billion offer didn't require any strings like that.

[kalm]

This a rather unpleasant post even for you. You should talk to someone about your anger.

Are you kidding me? I've been on here from the start advocating for this war to be over. Jelly doesn't get to rewrite history.

Advocating for Putin and Russia is not advocating for the war to end.

Jelly shared real things happening to real people (his wife’s family) in the conflict. Show me how telling him to go fuck hi self and read a history book is an honorable and helpful thing to say on any level.

[kalm]

Russia must be getting really close to victory now. They don’t even need to use their own troops or armaments. Giving some valuable PT to NK and buying weapons from them is how you build depth for the next invasion.

Intelligence officials cited by the broadcaster said the Russian military is searching for the North Korean soldiers, while commanders are trying to conceal the desertion from their higher-ups.

It comes after reports that Moscow was planning to assemble a battalion of troops sent over by Kim Jong Un to help push Ukraine's forces out of Kursk.

https://www.newsweek.com/north-korean-t ... rt-1969726

[Caribbean Hen]

Russia must be getting really close to victory now. They don’t even need to use their own troops or armaments. Giving some valuable PT to NK and buying weapons from them is how you build depth for the next invasion.

Intelligence officials cited by the broadcaster said the Russian military is searching for the North Korean soldiers, while commanders are trying to conceal the desertion from their higher-ups.

It comes after reports that Moscow was planning to assemble a battalion of troops sent over by Kim Jong Un to help push Ukraine's forces out of Kursk.

https://www.newsweek.com/north-korean-t ... rt-1969726

nope

North Korean deserters won't be providing anything and there won't be a next invasion ..... you really think this little pact between Russia and N Korea is going to go well

[kalm]

Russia must be getting really close to victory now. They don’t even need to use their own troops or armaments. Giving some valuable PT to NK and buying weapons from them is how you build depth for the next invasion.



https://www.newsweek.com/north-korean-t ... rt-1969726

nope

North Korean deserters won't be providing anything and there won't be a next invasion ..... you really think this little pact between Russia and N Korea is going to go well

The sarcasm emoji was built for people such as yourself.

[SeattleGriz]

Are you kidding me? I've been on here from the start advocating for this war to be over. Jelly doesn't get to rewrite history.

Advocating for Putin and Russia is not advocating for the war to end.

Jelly shared real things happening to real people (his wife’s family) in the conflict. Show me how telling him to go fuck hi self and read a history book is an honorable and helpful thing to say on any level.

You keep trying to take my stance and turn it into your uninformed view. I've never advocated for Putin. I've been pointing out how the US fucked around and unfortunately the Ukrainians have found out.

The fact I've had to inform a good majority on here that Ukraine was NOT winning the war is also not advocating.
It's called facts.

I've also posted numerous artifacts and articles from those who were present during negotiations many years ago and remember what was promised.

As for Jelly, he so impressionable he still thinks Trump is a Russian spy. He believes bullshit and won't wise up. Him also lying about my stance like you is honorable?

[Bobcat]

Its what they do, they run from accountability faster than women do

[Caribbean Hen]

Has Obama drawn an imaginary red line yet?

In a way, Obama has put up red lines...and had little success, yet again. Obama has repeatedly threated "consequences" for Russia...and of course the White House lap dog Biden has been yapping and snarling up a storm. And Putin continues to call Obama's bluff.

All the while, Putin has recognized Obama for what he really is...a do-nothing clown that is not able to reach any compromise with anyone (because Obama doesn't want to compromise on anything) and who only gets his way when he forces things through by fiat.

Putin knows Obama...they have a lot in common.

Wow
U D man called Joey Rotten out 10 years ago, no wonder Jobozo didn’t lift a finger to stop this stupid war

[Caribbean Hen]

Russia should just take back their port, let Crimea separate from the Ukraine, and everyone goes (says) home happy.

brilliant ?

[SeattleGriz]

Some of you uninformed rubes need to read this and understand a peace agreement was reached early and the US/UK scuttled it.

https://glenndiesen.substack.com/p/sabo ... ent#_ftn17

In February 2022, Russia invaded Ukraine to impose a settlement after some NATO countries had undermined the Minsk-2 peace agreement for 7 years. On the first day after the invasion, Zelensky confirmed that Moscow contacted him to discuss negotiations based on restoring Ukraine’s neutrality.[1] On the third day after the invasion, Russia and Ukraine agreed to start negotiations on a peace based on Russian military withdrawal in return for Ukrainian neutrality.[2] Zelensky responded favourably to this condition, and he even called for a “collective security agreement” to include Russia to mitigate the security competition that had sparked the war.[3]

The negotiations that followed are referred to as the Istanbul negotiations, in which Russia and Ukraine were close to an agreement before the US and the UK sabotaged it.