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UNI88 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:19 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:59 pm lol this is driving the left BATSHIT CRAZY. :lol:

And pedophiles, sex traffickers, and Klingons around the country are celebrating one of their own being appointed AG.
Fake allegations by Fake News.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:37 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:19 pm trump is a billionaire who is fighting the deep state for everyday Americans.
Fake allegations by Fake News.
You got me. trump isn't a billionaire and he isn't fighting the deep state for everyday Americans because he doesn't give a shit about America or everyday Americans. He a narcissistic sociopath who only cares about donald "john" trump.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:53 pm
SuperHornet wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:13 pm I'm on board with Rubio, Noem, and Gabbard. But from what I've read, Hegseth at SecDef is questionable at best and Gaetz as Attorney General is an unmitigated disaster of a choice. The paedophilia alone is probably enough to guarantee that he doesn't get a single confirmation vote....
He'll get plenty of confirmation votes. Who's going to risk crossing trump to vote against the sexual predator?
Yep and SH is wise in doubting Hegseth as well as Gates.

Tubberville is already threatening any R’s who vote no.


Gaetz timing is good. His resignation is coming out two days before house ethics committee votes on whether to release the report on their findings. I have to hand it to him. He’s clever.
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My choice for SecDef would have been ADM Michelle Howard.

Of course, SH is ALWAYS biased toward the Navy....
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SuperHornet wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 9:57 pm My choice for SecDef would have been ADM Michelle Howard.

Of course, SH is ALWAYS biased toward the Navy....
When was the last time a sailor was Sec of Defense?
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:14 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:13 pm

I'll take my chances with this guy... so he wasn't a 3 star general.... good
Agreed.
Like I said, I'm willing to let time tell on Hegseth. As I said, look at past Sec of Defenses, there are tons of folks in the past in that role who would seem to be questionable choices. Many were career politicians, and some with literally no previous connection to the Defense department. And no one is saying it should be generals or admirals leading that - in fact, it's always been a point to have civilians run the Defense department and I see the value in that.

And let's face it, the current leadership has not really been of any particular quality. Just two days ago, two different US Navy destroyers were attacked by Iran-backed Houthis, firing a mix of anti-ship missiles and drones, including underwater attacks. They supposedly fought off all of these attacks, but sailors lives were put at risk and I haven't heard boo about this from the current Sec of Defense or anyone in government. I think that's a failing of the current administration and who they have in place, so I do welcome a change. And there certainly needs to be a shaking up of the department - we need to be agile and willing to change depending on the changing strategic situations in the world.

Probably his biggest issue will be the comment on women in combat. That's a dangerous and disingenuous position to take. What defines combat? Is it just ground forces, or does it include aviation and naval as well? And what if a woman meets all the same physical standards as a man, why wouldn't she be qualified? Saying that a man is going to jeopardize a military operation to protect a woman is ridiculous - heck, in that case, the man is the one who isn't meeting the standard required for combat.

But as I said, time will tell.
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GannonFan wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:17 am
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:14 pm
Agreed.
Like I said, I'm willing to let time tell on Hegseth. As I said, look at past Sec of Defenses, there are tons of folks in the past in that role who would seem to be questionable choices. Many were career politicians, and some with literally no previous connection to the Defense department. And no one is saying it should be generals or admirals leading that - in fact, it's always been a point to have civilians run the Defense department and I see the value in that.

And let's face it, the current leadership has not really been of any particular quality. Just two days ago, two different US Navy destroyers were attacked by Iran-backed Houthis, firing a mix of anti-ship missiles and drones, including underwater attacks. They supposedly fought off all of these attacks, but sailors lives were put at risk and I haven't heard boo about this from the current Sec of Defense or anyone in government. I think that's a failing of the current administration and who they have in place, so I do welcome a change. And there certainly needs to be a shaking up of the department - we need to be agile and willing to change depending on the changing strategic situations in the world.

Probably his biggest issue will be the comment on women in combat. That's a dangerous and disingenuous position to take. What defines combat? Is it just ground forces, or does it include aviation and naval as well? And what if a woman meets all the same physical standards as a man, why wouldn't she be qualified? Saying that a man is going to jeopardize a military operation to protect a woman is ridiculous - heck, in that case, the man is the one who isn't meeting the standard required for combat.

But as I said, time will tell.
I told you months ago I was concerned for the young men and women in the Navy. The Sec of Defense is totally incompetent and should of already been fired but Biden just won't do it. The Navy is restricted by ridiculous ROE and I would think things will get better now with Hegseth, as he had to deal with idiotic policies while putting his life on the line. He will also weed out wokeness, or at least try to, that's a good thing. The military is generally not woke, but it bleeds down from the top brass in DC. If anyone in the chain bucks the system they can say goodbye to being promoted as they have to play the game.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:50 am
GannonFan wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:17 am

Like I said, I'm willing to let time tell on Hegseth. As I said, look at past Sec of Defenses, there are tons of folks in the past in that role who would seem to be questionable choices. Many were career politicians, and some with literally no previous connection to the Defense department. And no one is saying it should be generals or admirals leading that - in fact, it's always been a point to have civilians run the Defense department and I see the value in that.

And let's face it, the current leadership has not really been of any particular quality. Just two days ago, two different US Navy destroyers were attacked by Iran-backed Houthis, firing a mix of anti-ship missiles and drones, including underwater attacks. They supposedly fought off all of these attacks, but sailors lives were put at risk and I haven't heard boo about this from the current Sec of Defense or anyone in government. I think that's a failing of the current administration and who they have in place, so I do welcome a change. And there certainly needs to be a shaking up of the department - we need to be agile and willing to change depending on the changing strategic situations in the world.

Probably his biggest issue will be the comment on women in combat. That's a dangerous and disingenuous position to take. What defines combat? Is it just ground forces, or does it include aviation and naval as well? And what if a woman meets all the same physical standards as a man, why wouldn't she be qualified? Saying that a man is going to jeopardize a military operation to protect a woman is ridiculous - heck, in that case, the man is the one who isn't meeting the standard required for combat.

But as I said, time will tell.
I told you months ago I was concerned for the young men and women in the Navy. The Sec of Defense is totally incompetent and should of already been fired but Biden just won't do it. The Navy is restricted by ridiculous ROE and I would think things will get better now with Hegseth, as he had to deal with idiotic policies while putting his life on the line. He will also weed out wokeness, or at least try to, that's a good thing. The military is generally not woke, but it bleeds down from the top brass in DC. If anyone in the chain bucks the system they can say goodbye to being promoted as they have to play the game.
We'll see the mettle of Hegseth's character if trump asks him to violate Posse Comitatus and use the military against "enemies within". His duty to the Constitution supersedes any loyalty to trump.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:50 am
GannonFan wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:17 am

Like I said, I'm willing to let time tell on Hegseth. As I said, look at past Sec of Defenses, there are tons of folks in the past in that role who would seem to be questionable choices. Many were career politicians, and some with literally no previous connection to the Defense department. And no one is saying it should be generals or admirals leading that - in fact, it's always been a point to have civilians run the Defense department and I see the value in that.

And let's face it, the current leadership has not really been of any particular quality. Just two days ago, two different US Navy destroyers were attacked by Iran-backed Houthis, firing a mix of anti-ship missiles and drones, including underwater attacks. They supposedly fought off all of these attacks, but sailors lives were put at risk and I haven't heard boo about this from the current Sec of Defense or anyone in government. I think that's a failing of the current administration and who they have in place, so I do welcome a change. And there certainly needs to be a shaking up of the department - we need to be agile and willing to change depending on the changing strategic situations in the world.

Probably his biggest issue will be the comment on women in combat. That's a dangerous and disingenuous position to take. What defines combat? Is it just ground forces, or does it include aviation and naval as well? And what if a woman meets all the same physical standards as a man, why wouldn't she be qualified? Saying that a man is going to jeopardize a military operation to protect a woman is ridiculous - heck, in that case, the man is the one who isn't meeting the standard required for combat.

But as I said, time will tell.
I told you months ago I was concerned for the young men and women in the Navy. The Sec of Defense is totally incompetent and should of already been fired but Biden just won't do it. The Navy is restricted by ridiculous ROE and I would think things will get better now with Hegseth, as he had to deal with idiotic policies while putting his life on the line. He will also weed out wokeness, or at least try to, that's a good thing. The military is generally not woke, but it bleeds down from the top brass in DC. If anyone in the chain bucks the system they can say goodbye to being promoted as they have to play the game.
No argument. We have nations basically shooting at US military at will and we're not doing anything about it, we're even doing worse by just leaving our forces there to be shot at. Eventually, something's going to get through and people are going to die. It doesn't need to happen like this.

And again, my biggest issue with the potential incoming Sec of Def is his previous comments on women in combat roles. Saying it the way he's said it makes out women to be less than men, and that leads to a lot of problems. And women are something like 20% of the armed forces these days, and we struggle to get enough healthy kids into the armed forces as it is.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:13 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:50 am

I told you months ago I was concerned for the young men and women in the Navy. The Sec of Defense is totally incompetent and should of already been fired but Biden just won't do it. The Navy is restricted by ridiculous ROE and I would think things will get better now with Hegseth, as he had to deal with idiotic policies while putting his life on the line. He will also weed out wokeness, or at least try to, that's a good thing. The military is generally not woke, but it bleeds down from the top brass in DC. If anyone in the chain bucks the system they can say goodbye to being promoted as they have to play the game.
We'll see the mettle of Hegseth's character if trump asks him to violate Posse Comitatus and use the military against "enemies within". His duty to the Constitution supersedes any loyalty to trump.
The duty of all of the armed forces is to the Constitution. It's in the oath of office.
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kalm wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 9:39 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:53 pm
He'll get plenty of confirmation votes. Who's going to risk crossing trump to vote against the sexual predator?
Yep and SH is wise in doubting Hegseth as well as Gates.

Tubberville is already threatening any R’s who vote no.

Gaetz timing is good. His resignation is coming out two days before house ethics committee votes on whether to release the report on their findings. I have to hand it to him. He’s clever.
The American public deserves to know the results of an ethics investigation into someone who could be appointed the highest law enforcement officer in the country. Talk about putting the fox in charge of the henhouse.

At a minimum, the Gaetz ethics report should be released to the Senate Judiciary Committee that considers his nomination.
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GannonFan wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:17 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:13 am
We'll see the mettle of Hegseth's character if trump asks him to violate Posse Comitatus and use the military against "enemies within". His duty to the Constitution supersedes any loyalty to trump.
The duty of all of the armed forces is to the Constitution. It's in the oath of office.
You don't think trump will ask his appointees and others to prioritize loyalty to him over their duty to the Constitution if it will benefit him? He did it in 2021 with Pence and it was probably part of the 2024 VP vetting process.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:20 am
kalm wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 9:39 pm

Yep and SH is wise in doubting Hegseth as well as Gates.

Tubberville is already threatening any R’s who vote no.

Gaetz timing is good. His resignation is coming out two days before house ethics committee votes on whether to release the report on their findings. I have to hand it to him. He’s clever.
The American public deserves to know the results of an ethics investigation into someone who could be appointed the highest law enforcement officer in the country. Talk about putting the fox in charge of the henhouse.

At a minimum, the Gaetz ethics report should be released to the Senate Judiciary Committee that considers his nomination.
Oh I totally agree. But it’s already a clown show with the appointments. I’m learning to look past any thoughts like “he can’t be this brazen” or “this decision is going to politically hurt him.”

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UNI88 wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:13 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:50 am

I told you months ago I was concerned for the young men and women in the Navy. The Sec of Defense is totally incompetent and should of already been fired but Biden just won't do it. The Navy is restricted by ridiculous ROE and I would think things will get better now with Hegseth, as he had to deal with idiotic policies while putting his life on the line. He will also weed out wokeness, or at least try to, that's a good thing. The military is generally not woke, but it bleeds down from the top brass in DC. If anyone in the chain bucks the system they can say goodbye to being promoted as they have to play the game.
We'll see the mettle of Hegseth's character if trump asks him to violate Posse Comitatus and use the military against "enemies within". His duty to the Constitution supersedes any loyalty to trump.
What part of "all enemies foreign and domestic" dont you understand? Illegal immigrants are domestic terrorists and a threat to national security, same goes for people that support them breaking our laws.
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BobsKKKat wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:24 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:13 am
We'll see the mettle of Hegseth's character if trump asks him to violate Posse Comitatus and use the military against "enemies within". His duty to the Constitution supersedes any loyalty to trump.
What part of "all enemies foreign and domestic" dont you understand? Illegal immigrants are domestic terrorists and a threat to national security, same goes for people that support them breaking our laws.
The January 6 rioters were domestic terrorists and a threat to national security. Pardoning them is giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States.

I support restricting immigration but people moving to the US to pursue a better life are not domestic terrorists. The military should not be used against American citizens for supporting the less fortunate and anyone that gives that order is violating the Constitution and should be arrested.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:41 am
BobsKKKat wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:24 am
What part of "all enemies foreign and domestic" dont you understand? Illegal immigrants are domestic terrorists and a threat to national security, same goes for people that support them breaking our laws.
The January 6 rioters were domestic terrorists and a threat to national security. Pardoning them is giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States.

I support restricting immigration but people moving to the US to pursue a better life are not domestic terrorists. The military should not be used against American citizens for supporting the less fortunate and anyone that gives that order is violating the Constitution and should be arrested.
:nod:

Interesting that what used to be the hardcore constitutionalists in our country have now surrendered themselves at the altar of the strong leader.
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 3:10 pm We need a poll to pick which appointed whore he sticks his tiny, little schmeckle in first. Early money is on noem.

#FamilyValues
tulsi has entered the race and is challenging noem as the betting favorite.

I think tulsi would beat the crap out of trump if he grabbed her by the pussy.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:43 pm
UNI88 wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 3:10 pm We need a poll to pick which appointed whore he sticks his tiny, little schmeckle in first. Early money is on noem.

#FamilyValues
tulsi has entered the race and is challenging noem as the betting favorite.

I think tulsi would beat the crap out of trump if he grabbed her by the pussy.
Well she has military training so that’s an advantagd. Noem may just shoot him tho.
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Just an observation-

No way Gaetz gets confirmed. He won’t even make it to confirmation. Also, hopefully his resignation from his seat won’t be reversible. 4D chess from Trump??

Also, when are klam and houndawg getting fitted for their new threads?

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CID1990 wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 1:04 pm Just an observation-

No way Gaetz gets confirmed. He won’t even make it to confirmation. Also, hopefully his resignation from his seat won’t be reversible. 4D chess from Trump??

Also, when are klam and houndawg getting fitted for their new threads?

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Agree on Gaetz. It seems like a move so out there that the Senate can strike that one down and then the other ones don't seem as extreme. Seems like a sacrificial lamb.
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kalm wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:24 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:37 pm Surfs up dudes!
Is this the progressive, Bernie version or the MAGA version?
She's the same as always, just has the left media attacking her in full force.
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