The Ukraine Crisis

Political discussions
User avatar
SeattleGriz
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 17355
Joined: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:41 am
I am a fan of: Montana
A.K.A.: PhxGriz

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by SeattleGriz »

houndawg wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:37 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:28 pm

And how was this quantified? Must be using Cid's super secret OSINT sources like Bellingcat and Institute of War.
When you need to hire mercenaries because your own people want nothing to do with your invasion of a neighboring nation, that's a sign that things aren't going well. Kind of like filling your ranks with prisoners because able-bodied replacements are fleeing Russia by the hundreds of thousands, in numbers like nobody has ever seen. I hear its closer to 800,000 now and 1,500/day. I don't know if that's true but many people are saying....perhaps the truth is between that figure and whatever figure you're hearing from your Kremlin sources?
Way to skirt the question...maybe because you know that number is totally fabricated. There is no way Ukraine is knows the numbers, especially as they keep losing ground and have no way to validate their guesses.

In regards to mercenaries, WTF do you think the Ukrainian Nazi issue was about? The US was funding the Ukrainian mercenaries, so the US had to change the bank account we were dumping money into, because that I'm sure stopped the funding for groups like Azov battalion.

Lastly, Russia is still on SMO footing and thus, certain regular troops cannot be used. Russia uses mercenaries, but is not lacking overall soldiers.

That was Uni St Behar level effort there. I expect more out of a varsity letterman like you HDoge. :kisswink:
Everything is better with SeattleGriz
houndawg
Level5
Level5
Posts: 24470
Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:14 pm
I am a fan of: SIU
A.K.A.: houndawg
Location: Egypt

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by houndawg »

SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:45 pm
houndawg wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:37 am

When you need to hire mercenaries because your own people want nothing to do with your invasion of a neighboring nation, that's a sign that things aren't going well. Kind of like filling your ranks with prisoners because able-bodied replacements are fleeing Russia by the hundreds of thousands, in numbers like nobody has ever seen. I hear its closer to 800,000 now and 1,500/day. I don't know if that's true but many people are saying....perhaps the truth is between that figure and whatever figure you're hearing from your Kremlin sources?
Way to skirt the question...maybe because you know that number is totally fabricated. There is no way Ukraine is knows the numbers, especially as they keep losing ground and have no way to validate their guesses.

In regards to mercenaries, WTF do you think the Ukrainian Nazi issue was about? The US was funding the Ukrainian mercenaries, so the US had to change the bank account we were dumping money into, because that I'm sure stopped the funding for groups like Azov battalion.

Lastly, Russia is still on SMO footing and thus, certain regular troops cannot be used. Russia uses mercenaries, but is not lacking overall soldiers.

That was Uni St Behar level effort there. I expect more out of a varsity letterman like you HDoge. :kisswink:
does somebody need a hug... :cry:
You matter. Unless you multiply yourself by c squared. Then you energy.


"I really love America. I just don't know how to get there anymore."John Prine
User avatar
SeattleGriz
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 17355
Joined: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:41 am
I am a fan of: Montana
A.K.A.: PhxGriz

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by SeattleGriz »

Everything is better with SeattleGriz
User avatar
SeattleGriz
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 17355
Joined: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:41 am
I am a fan of: Montana
A.K.A.: PhxGriz

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by SeattleGriz »

houndawg wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 8:47 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:45 pm

Way to skirt the question...maybe because you know that number is totally fabricated. There is no way Ukraine is knows the numbers, especially as they keep losing ground and have no way to validate their guesses.

In regards to mercenaries, WTF do you think the Ukrainian Nazi issue was about? The US was funding the Ukrainian mercenaries, so the US had to change the bank account we were dumping money into, because that I'm sure stopped the funding for groups like Azov battalion.

Lastly, Russia is still on SMO footing and thus, certain regular troops cannot be used. Russia uses mercenaries, but is not lacking overall soldiers.

That was Uni St Behar level effort there. I expect more out of a varsity letterman like you HDoge. :kisswink:
does somebody need a hug... :cry:
Only if I can squeeze your ass while getting a hug. :kisswink:
Everything is better with SeattleGriz
Caribbean Hen
Level3
Level3
Posts: 3801
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:24 pm
I am a fan of: DELAWARE

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by Caribbean Hen »

SeattleGriz wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 12:19 pm
Lame Duck Head Biden did nothing for 1,000 days and only now he’s determined to approve this … just leave already
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 62282
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by kalm »

But we all still agree that the Russians are the bad guys, right?
Image
Image
Image
Bobcat
Level2
Level2
Posts: 1441
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:05 am
I am a fan of: NDSU

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by Bobcat »

kalm wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:15 pm But we all still agree that the Russians are the bad guys, right?
What is Russia doing to the USA right now?
Did they bomb Pearl Harbor?
Did they crash planes into the World trade Center?
Have the messed with US elections? (Nope not in any way but the media has lied about it)


Oh thats right, they have done nothing to us so mind your own fucking business.
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 62282
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by kalm »

Bobcat wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:02 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:15 pm But we all still agree that the Russians are the bad guys, right?
What is Russia doing to the USA right now?
Did they bomb Pearl Harbor?
Did they crash planes into the World trade Center?
Have the messed with US elections? (Nope not in any way but the media has lied about it)


Oh thats right, they have done nothing to us so mind your own fucking business.
You didn’t answer the question.

Here’s another: are we nation of peace and friendship who hones our alliances and treaties?
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
UNI88
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 22916
Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
I am a fan of: UNI
Location: the foggy, woggy banks Of the Limpopo River

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by UNI88 »

BobsKKKat wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:02 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:15 pm But we all still agree that the Russians are the bad guys, right?
What is Russia doing to the USA right now?
Did they bomb Pearl Harbor?
Did they crash planes into the World trade Center?
Have the messed with US elections? (Nope not in any way but the media has lied about it)

Oh thats right, they have done nothing to us so mind your own fucking business.


Pull your head out of the sand and stop falling for russian psy op campaigns.
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm

MAQA - putting the Q into qrazy qanon qonspiracy theories since 2015.
Bobcat
Level2
Level2
Posts: 1441
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:05 am
I am a fan of: NDSU

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by Bobcat »

What Russian PsyOps?

There are none.

DOJ or CIA of course but its not Russians doing it its the US government "leaders"
User avatar
UNI88
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 22916
Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
I am a fan of: UNI
Location: the foggy, woggy banks Of the Limpopo River

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by UNI88 »

BobsKKKat wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:01 pm What Russian PsyOps?

There are none.


DOJ or CIA of course but its not Russians doing it its the US government "leaders"
:dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce:

Someone has been snorting dr. ronny johson's White House stimulants.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm

MAQA - putting the Q into qrazy qanon qonspiracy theories since 2015.
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 62282
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by kalm »

UNI88 wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:25 pm
BobsKKKat wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:01 pm What Russian PsyOps?

There are none.


DOJ or CIA of course but its not Russians doing it its the US government "leaders"
:dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
It will be the excuse put out for gutting both agencies of naysayers.

Bob repeats talking points well. :lol:
Image
Image
Image
Caribbean Hen
Level3
Level3
Posts: 3801
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:24 pm
I am a fan of: DELAWARE

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by Caribbean Hen »

UNI88 wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:34 pm
BobsKKKat wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:02 pm

What is Russia doing to the USA right now?
Did they bomb Pearl Harbor?
Did they crash planes into the World trade Center?
Have the messed with US elections? (Nope not in any way but the media has lied about it)

Oh thats right, they have done nothing to us so mind your own fucking business.


Pull your head out of the sand and stop falling for russian psy op campaigns.
Please … only Kalm believes the stuff he reads on social media…
houndawg
Level5
Level5
Posts: 24470
Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:14 pm
I am a fan of: SIU
A.K.A.: houndawg
Location: Egypt

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by houndawg »

Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:01 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 12:19 pm
Lame Duck Head Biden did nothing for 1,000 days and only now he’s determined to approve this … just leave already

:lol:

but first...tax churches...cancel all student debt...declare Chrsitian Nationalism a terorist organization...there's still plenty of fun to be had :thumb:
You matter. Unless you multiply yourself by c squared. Then you energy.


"I really love America. I just don't know how to get there anymore."John Prine
User avatar
UNI88
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 22916
Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
I am a fan of: UNI
Location: the foggy, woggy banks Of the Limpopo River

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by UNI88 »

Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 6:03 am
UNI88 wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:34 pm


Pull your head out of the sand and stop falling for russian psy op campaigns.
Please … only Kalm believes the stuff he reads on social media…
It's on more than social media. But nice attempt to duck and dodge.

BobsKKKat and his MAQA yahoo echo chamber denials have once again been proven false. Only a fool or an idiot believes the russians aren't attempting to sow discord in the US.
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm

MAQA - putting the Q into qrazy qanon qonspiracy theories since 2015.
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 62282
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by kalm »

Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 6:03 am
UNI88 wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:34 pm



Pull your head out of the sand and stop falling for russian psy op campaigns.
Please … only Kalm believes the stuff he reads on social media…
You’re still smart enough to realize that nearly all news and information is also posted on social media. Including the stuff you like. :lol:

Like I mentioned in the other thread, we have a responsibility as consumers to be skeptical and apply critical thinking skills. You’ll get there someday, Amigo. :kisswink:
Image
Image
Image
Caribbean Hen
Level3
Level3
Posts: 3801
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:24 pm
I am a fan of: DELAWARE

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by Caribbean Hen »

kalm wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:30 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 6:03 am

Please … only Kalm believes the stuff he reads on social media…
You’re still smart enough to realize that nearly all news and information is also posted on social media. Including the stuff you like. :lol:

Like I mentioned in the other thread, we have a responsibility as consumers to be skeptical and apply critical thinking skills. You’ll get there someday, Amigo. :kisswink:
This from the guy that makes a living being wrong
User avatar
UNI88
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 22916
Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
I am a fan of: UNI
Location: the foggy, woggy banks Of the Limpopo River

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by UNI88 »

Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:25 am
kalm wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:30 am
You’re still smart enough to realize that nearly all news and information is also posted on social media. Including the stuff you like. :lol:

Like I mentioned in the other thread, we have a responsibility as consumers to be skeptical and apply critical thinking skills. You’ll get there someday, Amigo. :kisswink:
This from the guy that makes a living being wrong
The allegations against RT and Tenet Media are pretty well established. What's he wrong about in this instance?

Or is this just an ad hominem attack because you can't refute the reality that russia paid rightwing influencers through Tenet.
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm

MAQA - putting the Q into qrazy qanon qonspiracy theories since 2015.
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 62282
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by kalm »

Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:25 am
kalm wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:30 am

You’re still smart enough to realize that nearly all news and information is also posted on social media. Including the stuff you like. :lol:

Like I mentioned in the other thread, we have a responsibility as consumers to be skeptical and apply critical thinking skills. You’ll get there someday, Amigo. :kisswink:
This from the guy that makes a living being wrong
You sound bitter. Don’t be bitter. Don’t take that ball and go home!
Image
Image
Image
Caribbean Hen
Level3
Level3
Posts: 3801
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:24 pm
I am a fan of: DELAWARE

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by Caribbean Hen »

UNI88 wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:28 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:25 am

This from the guy that makes a living being wrong
The allegations against RT and Tenet Media are pretty well established. What's he wrong about in this instance?

Or is this just an ad hominem attack because you can't refute the reality that russia paid rightwing influencers through Tenet.
Were they paying Joey Biden to be an idiot? Or did That just happen naturally
Caribbean Hen
Level3
Level3
Posts: 3801
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:24 pm
I am a fan of: DELAWARE

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by Caribbean Hen »

kalm wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:43 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:25 am

This from the guy that makes a living being wrong
You sound bitter. Don’t be bitter. Don’t take that ball and go home!
Nobody is bitter

Amused maybe
User avatar
UNI88
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 22916
Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
I am a fan of: UNI
Location: the foggy, woggy banks Of the Limpopo River

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by UNI88 »

Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 12:12 pm
UNI88 wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:28 am
The allegations against RT and Tenet Media are pretty well established. What's he wrong about in this instance?

Or is this just an ad hominem attack because you can't refute the reality that russia paid rightwing influencers through Tenet.
Were they paying Joey Biden to be an idiot? Or did That just happen naturally
Considering they were paying MAQA yahoo influencers, it was more likely they were paying them to be mouthpieces to convince suckers and idiots to follow a narcissistic sociopath. :coffee:
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm

MAQA - putting the Q into qrazy qanon qonspiracy theories since 2015.
User avatar
SeattleGriz
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 17355
Joined: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:41 am
I am a fan of: Montana
A.K.A.: PhxGriz

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by SeattleGriz »

kalm wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:28 pm
Bobcat wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:02 pm

What is Russia doing to the USA right now?
Did they bomb Pearl Harbor?
Did they crash planes into the World trade Center?
Have the messed with US elections? (Nope not in any way but the media has lied about it)


Oh thats right, they have done nothing to us so mind your own fucking business.
You didn’t answer the question.

Here’s another: are we nation of peace and friendship who hones our alliances and treaties?
Why haven't you ever answered the question of why you didn't say shit about Ukraine killing it's own civilians. Oh that's right. You didn't give a shit.
Everything is better with SeattleGriz
User avatar
SeattleGriz
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 17355
Joined: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:41 am
I am a fan of: Montana
A.K.A.: PhxGriz

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by SeattleGriz »

Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:01 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 12:19 pm
Lame Duck Head Biden did nothing for 1,000 days and only now he’s determined to approve this … just leave already
Yep. Russia has been shooting down Storm Shadows and ATACMS at around a 75% rate, but Putin has stated the obvious. It's Western satellites, western coordinates and western technicians enabling these to be launched.

This is desperation by the neocons and a dangerous game to play.
Everything is better with SeattleGriz
User avatar
BDKJMU
Level5
Level5
Posts: 30282
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
I am a fan of: JMU
A.K.A.: BDKJMU
Location: Philly Burbs

Re: The Ukraine Crisis

Post by BDKJMU »

houndawg wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:14 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:01 pm

Lame Duck Head Biden did nothing for 1,000 days and only now he’s determined to approve this … just leave already

:lol:

but first...tax churches...cancel all student debt...declare Chrsitian Nationalism a terorist organization...there's still plenty of fun to be had :thumb:
Doesn’t have the authority to do any of that. :dunce: He’s already tried. :lol:
Proud deplorable Ultra MAGA fascist NAZI trash clinging to my guns and religion (and whatever else I’ve been labeled by Obama/Clinton/Biden/Harris).
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
Image
JMU Football: 2022 & 2023 Sun Belt East Champions.
Post Reply