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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:42 am
Hey…MTG may have found a friend who approaches her level of stupidity! :rofl:

Let 80% of the population get infected and we would have only lost a few more million lives. :lol:

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Love that pick, science based is the way to go.
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kalm wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:51 am
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:42 am
Hey…MTG may have found a friend who approaches her level of stupidity! :rofl:

Let 80% of the population get infected and we would have only lost a few more million lives. :lol:

Bro. Just stop with being a retard on this topic. Really.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:13 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:51 am

Hey…MTG may have found a friend who approaches her level of stupidity! :rofl:

Let 80% of the population get infected and we would have only lost a few more million lives. :lol:

Bro. Just stop with being a retard on this topic. Really.
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houndawg wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:38 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:13 pm

Bro. Just stop with being a retard on this topic. Really.
You are peevish beyond your years, young Dingleberry. Sit back and relax and enjoy the show, we're at the leading edge of a Golden Age of Political Comedy. Secret Jewish Space Lasers and immigrants eating the pets in Springfield was just a clearing of the throat... :notworthy:
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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:13 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:51 am

Hey…MTG may have found a friend who approaches her level of stupidity! :rofl:

Let 80% of the population get infected and we would have only lost a few more million lives. :lol:

Bro. Just stop with being a retard on this topic. Really.
Nothing to argue with here? You hate reality? I get it. :thumb:
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kalm wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:54 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:13 pm
Bro. Just stop with being a retard on this topic. Really.
Nothing to argue with here? You hate reality? I get it. :thumb:
IMO Dr. Bhattacharya is qualified and his opinion should be aired. If other qualified individuals disagree with him then they should be allowed to debate/dispute his opinions.

I do worry that trump is going to do the opposite of what he and biden attempted to do from 2020-2024, allow opinions like Dr. Bhattacharya's but attempt to suppress opposing opinions.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:42 am
kalm wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:54 pm

Nothing to argue with here? You hate reality? I get it. :thumb:
IMO Dr. Bhattacharya is qualified and his opinion should be aired. If other qualified individuals disagree with him then they should be allowed to debate/dispute his opinions.

I do worry that trump is going to do the opposite of what he and biden attempted to do from 2020-2024, allow opinions like Dr. Bhattacharya's but attempt to suppress opposing opinions.
His ideas are fine to discuss in a theoretical setting but implementing his ideas in a true crisis like Covid would jeopardize the lives of millions. Literally. Contrarianism has its place until the chips are down. Then it’s best to listen to the majority of experts in multiple fields from epidemiology to economics.

He would be disqualified for this reason from most administrations and rightfully so.
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kalm wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:55 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:42 am

IMO Dr. Bhattacharya is qualified and his opinion should be aired. If other qualified individuals disagree with him then they should be allowed to debate/dispute his opinions.

I do worry that trump is going to do the opposite of what he and biden attempted to do from 2020-2024, allow opinions like Dr. Bhattacharya's but attempt to suppress opposing opinions.
His ideas are fine to discuss in a theoretical setting but implementing his ideas in a true crisis like Covid would jeopardize the lives of millions. Literally. Contrarianism has its place until the chips are down. Then it’s best to listen to the majority of experts in multiple fields from epidemiology to economics.

He would be disqualified for this reason from most administrations and rightfully so.
You’re government didn’t save anyone, in fact they rained atrocities worse than COVID itself down on the people
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:46 am
kalm wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:55 am

His ideas are fine to discuss in a theoretical setting but implementing his ideas in a true crisis like Covid would jeopardize the lives of millions. Literally. Contrarianism has its place until the chips are down. Then it’s best to listen to the majority of experts in multiple fields from epidemiology to economics.

He would be disqualified for this reason from most administrations and rightfully so.
You’re government didn’t save anyone, in fact they rained atrocities worse than COVID itself down on the people
I’d expect nothing else from you. :lol: I’m sorry you had to endure the atrocities. :lol:
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“This is not to say that the virus is not a serious threat to the very vulnerable, or that reasonable measures to control its spread, like isolating the vulnerable, are not necessary. But it is to say that the response to the virus has seemed to serve the interests of the bureaucrats more than the interests of the public. The irony is that in their efforts to protect us from a parasite, they have acted like parasites themselves.”

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:53 am “This is not to say that the virus is not a serious threat to the very vulnerable, or that reasonable measures to control its spread, like isolating the vulnerable, are not necessary. But it is to say that the response to the virus has seemed to serve the interests of the bureaucrats more than the interests of the public. The irony is that in their efforts to protect us from a parasite, they have acted like parasites themselves.”

https://www.samwilks.com.au/post/my-per ... -parasites
To suggest we just needed to protect the vulnerable is revisionist. Forget health issues for a second and just consider the implications of an 80% infection rate on worker productivity, compromised workforce (My buddy’s fork lift repair shop went though a period this year where nearly the entire 30 employees were down with it. It set them back a month).

Bureaucratic issues aside (yes, some of those complaints are legit) we weren’t going to skate through it by only protecting the compromised and if only the government stayed out of the way and let nature run its course.

That’s pure fantasy.
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kalm wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:55 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:42 am

IMO Dr. Bhattacharya is qualified and his opinion should be aired. If other qualified individuals disagree with him then they should be allowed to debate/dispute his opinions.

I do worry that trump is going to do the opposite of what he and biden attempted to do from 2020-2024, allow opinions like Dr. Bhattacharya's but attempt to suppress opposing opinions.
His ideas are fine to discuss in a theoretical setting but implementing his ideas in a true crisis like Covid would jeopardize the lives of millions. Literally. Contrarianism has its place until the chips are down. Then it’s best to listen to the majority of experts in multiple fields from epidemiology to economics.

He would be disqualified for this reason from most administrations and rightfully so.
No they wouldn’t. He was spot on with the Barrington Declaration, lockdowns, masks, and the vaccine.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 11:02 am
kalm wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:55 am

His ideas are fine to discuss in a theoretical setting but implementing his ideas in a true crisis like Covid would jeopardize the lives of millions. Literally. Contrarianism has its place until the chips are down. Then it’s best to listen to the majority of experts in multiple fields from epidemiology to economics.

He would be disqualified for this reason from most administrations and rightfully so.
No they wouldn’t. He was spot on with the Barrington Declaration, lockdowns, masks, and the vaccine.
I linked something above that showed an 80% infection rate needed to reach herd immunity. That would have equated to 2-4 million additional deaths.

Or, as you like to say…wrong! :lol:
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kalm wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:54 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:13 pm

Bro. Just stop with being a retard on this topic. Really.
Nothing to argue with here? You hate reality? I get it. :thumb:
:rofl: You were bludgeoned in the COVID thread. Your stance is equal to bloodletting.
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The elitist Democrats didn't like someone with different foreign policy views, instead of being a puppet to anyone.

NBC started the smear campaign about Russia the day she announced she was running for the 2020 Presidency. HMMMMM.

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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 1:08 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:54 pm

Nothing to argue with here? You hate reality? I get it. :thumb:
:rofl: You were bludgeoned in the COVID thread. Your stance is equal to bloodletting.
Claiming false victory again. :loser:
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Gil Dobie wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 8:48 am
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The elitist Democrats didn't like someone with different foreign policy views, instead of being a puppet to anyone.

NBC started the smear campaign about Russia the day she announced she was running for the 2020 Presidency. HMMMMM.

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Yeah…she’s a real peach.


n the summer of 2015, three Syrian girls who had narrowly survived an airstrike some weeks earlier stood before Tulsi Gabbard with horrific burns all over their bodies.

Gabbard, then a US congresswoman on a visit to the Syria-Turkey border as part of her duties for the foreign affairs committee, had a question for them.

“How do you know it was Bashar al-Assad or Russia that bombed you, and not Isis?’” she asked, according to Mouaz Moustafa, a Syrian activist who was translating her conversation with the girls.

It was a revealing insight into Gabbard’s conspiratorial views of the conflict, and it shocked Moustafa to silence. He knew, as even the young children did, that Isis did not have jets to launch airstrikes. It was such an absurd question that he chose not to translate it because he didn’t want to upset the girls, the eldest of whom was 12.

Gabbard may have left the Syrian conflict behind, but Moustafa still works with its victims every day. And he believes the connection between her views on Syria and Ukraine is clear.

“What happened in Syria is what allowed the Russians to feel that they could do the very same in Ukraine,” he said.

“And what she is doing with Ukraine shows that it goes beyond her maybe misunderstanding one conflict. She is, hook, line and sinker, a Russian puppet.”…..

In almost every foreign conflict in which Russia had a hand, Gabbard backed Moscow and railed against the US. Her past promotion of Kremlin propaganda has provoked significant opposition on both sides of the aisle to her nomination.….

“What was shocking was her lack of empathy. She’ll sacrifice the facts, even when it came to little girls in front of her telling her they got bombed by a plane – it didn’t matter.”……

Lister said her views “appear to be driven by a strange fusion of America First isolationism and a belief in the value of autocratic and secular leaders in confronting extremism.”

They included a suggestion that Syrian rebels staged a false-flag chemical weapons attack against their supporters to provoke Western intervention against Assad — something the US intelligence agencies she will soon lead had concluded was false. She declined to call Assad a war criminal when pressed, despite masses of evidence, and used a video of Syrian government bombings to criticize US involvement in the war.

“Her descriptions of the crisis in Syria read like they were composed in Assad’s personal office, or in Tehran or Moscow – not Washington,” Lister added.….

Gabbard appeared to fall for various conspiracy theories about the conflict that were promoted by Russia, as she had done in Syria. One of those conspiracy theories was a Russian claim about the existence of dozens of US-funded biolabs in Ukraine that were supposedly producing deadly pathogens.

She later walked back on those remarks, suggesting that there might have been some “miscommunication and misunderstanding.”

Gabbard’s frequent echoing of Kremlin talking points has earned her praise in Russian state media. Indeed, an article published on 15 November in the Russian-state controlled outlet RIA Novosti went so far as to call Gabbard a “superwoman.”…..

The former US intelligence veteran also said Gabbard’s record of spreading foreign talking points calls into question whether she will be able to carry out the DNI’s important responsibility of briefing the president on threats to the nation.

He told The Independent: “Somebody like Tulsi Gabbard, you look at her long history of statements that seem to come out of the Kremlin’s notebook, her propensity to be influenced by their viewpoint – [it] raises questions as to whether she has the ability to present the intel community’s perspective as it is, or is she going to be one who’s going to want to discount it, influence it, color and change it, or ignore it and just present her own view?

“I think it also raises questions of judgement. You know, here’s an individual who seems very prone to misinformation, prone to conspiracy theory. That should worry anybody who’s worried about America’s national security,” he added.…
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kalm wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 9:34 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 8:48 am

The elitist Democrats didn't like someone with different foreign policy views, instead of being a puppet to anyone.

NBC started the smear campaign about Russia the day she announced she was running for the 2020 Presidency. HMMMMM.

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Yeah…she’s a real peach.


n the summer of 2015, three Syrian girls who had narrowly survived an airstrike some weeks earlier stood before Tulsi Gabbard with horrific burns all over their bodies.

Gabbard, then a US congresswoman on a visit to the Syria-Turkey border as part of her duties for the foreign affairs committee, had a question for them.

“How do you know it was Bashar al-Assad or Russia that bombed you, and not Isis?’” she asked, according to Mouaz Moustafa, a Syrian activist who was translating her conversation with the girls.

It was a revealing insight into Gabbard’s conspiratorial views of the conflict, and it shocked Moustafa to silence. He knew, as even the young children did, that Isis did not have jets to launch airstrikes. It was such an absurd question that he chose not to translate it because he didn’t want to upset the girls, the eldest of whom was 12.

Gabbard may have left the Syrian conflict behind, but Moustafa still works with its victims every day. And he believes the connection between her views on Syria and Ukraine is clear.

“What happened in Syria is what allowed the Russians to feel that they could do the very same in Ukraine,” he said.

“And what she is doing with Ukraine shows that it goes beyond her maybe misunderstanding one conflict. She is, hook, line and sinker, a Russian puppet.”…..

In almost every foreign conflict in which Russia had a hand, Gabbard backed Moscow and railed against the US. Her past promotion of Kremlin propaganda has provoked significant opposition on both sides of the aisle to her nomination.….

“What was shocking was her lack of empathy. She’ll sacrifice the facts, even when it came to little girls in front of her telling her they got bombed by a plane – it didn’t matter.”……

Lister said her views “appear to be driven by a strange fusion of America First isolationism and a belief in the value of autocratic and secular leaders in confronting extremism.”

They included a suggestion that Syrian rebels staged a false-flag chemical weapons attack against their supporters to provoke Western intervention against Assad — something the US intelligence agencies she will soon lead had concluded was false. She declined to call Assad a war criminal when pressed, despite masses of evidence, and used a video of Syrian government bombings to criticize US involvement in the war.

“Her descriptions of the crisis in Syria read like they were composed in Assad’s personal office, or in Tehran or Moscow – not Washington,” Lister added.….

Gabbard appeared to fall for various conspiracy theories about the conflict that were promoted by Russia, as she had done in Syria. One of those conspiracy theories was a Russian claim about the existence of dozens of US-funded biolabs in Ukraine that were supposedly producing deadly pathogens.

She later walked back on those remarks, suggesting that there might have been some “miscommunication and misunderstanding.”

Gabbard’s frequent echoing of Kremlin talking points has earned her praise in Russian state media. Indeed, an article published on 15 November in the Russian-state controlled outlet RIA Novosti went so far as to call Gabbard a “superwoman.”…..

The former US intelligence veteran also said Gabbard’s record of spreading foreign talking points calls into question whether she will be able to carry out the DNI’s important responsibility of briefing the president on threats to the nation.

He told The Independent: “Somebody like Tulsi Gabbard, you look at her long history of statements that seem to come out of the Kremlin’s notebook, her propensity to be influenced by their viewpoint – [it] raises questions as to whether she has the ability to present the intel community’s perspective as it is, or is she going to be one who’s going to want to discount it, influence it, color and change it, or ignore it and just present her own view?

“I think it also raises questions of judgement. You know, here’s an individual who seems very prone to misinformation, prone to conspiracy theory. That should worry anybody who’s worried about America’s national security,” he added.…
More smear by the media.
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