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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 2:12 pm Look at the nutjobs protecting their interests. Holy shit.

Don't know how accurate the chart is, but if it's anywhere close, that is horrifying to see. I'm sure Bernie is absolutely objective in his statements/reactions. You fucking retard Bernie backers now see how the medical industry loves his socialist stance, but we all know it's a bullshit schtick, just like Houndy acting smart. It's all to get his donor money. Sell-out.


Yep. The donks in bed with Big Pharma.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:09 am
During President Donald Trump's first term, the Office of Inspector General found that employees at GSA ignored legal requirements to implement facial recognition and then lied about it, claiming it was a matter of "racial equity." It also made "lived experience" a variable in hiring, meaning the agency became a haven of "trans" and "queer" people hiring each other for roles they had no experience in.

You may be wondering what "18F" is. It is a GSA-run tech office that "builds, buys, and shares" technology across all agencies. Of course, their role went well beyond that simple descriptor, with 18F dictating everything from the language used to how all federal meetings were conducted so as to promote "diversity and inclusion." That's how the country ended up with an "inclusion bot" hounding employees about using terms like "grandfathered" and "guys." Yes, you're taxpayer dollars were paying to maintain an Orwellian bot that told people have to speak.

That's all changing now, according to investigative reporter Luke Rosiak. With Stephen Ehikian, an ally of Elon Musk, being put in charge, those left at 18F are rushing to reverse course, including deleting the code for the "inclusion bot" and making wholesale changes to regulations and policies.

Remember that viral video from 2022 of Kamala Harris telling people at a meeting that her pronouns are "she and her" and that she's "wearing a blue suit?" That was the doing of 18F's policies.….
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2025/02/01 ... d-n2185074
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:00 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 2:12 pm Look at the nutjobs protecting their interests. Holy shit.

Don't know how accurate the chart is, but if it's anywhere close, that is horrifying to see. I'm sure Bernie is absolutely objective in his statements/reactions. You fucking retard Bernie backers now see how the medical industry loves his socialist stance, but we all know it's a bullshit schtick, just like Houndy acting smart. It's all to get his donor money. Sell-out.


Yep. The donks in bed with Big Pharma.
Bernie differs from trump how?

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This "is horrifying to see. I'm sure trump is absolutely objective in his statements/reactions. You fucking retard trump backers now see how the the uber-wealthy love his fascist stance, but we all know it's a bullshit schtick, just like BobQat saying he isn't a MAQA yahoo. It's all to get his donor money. Sell-out."

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UNI88 wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:17 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:00 pm
Yep. The donks in bed with Big Pharma.
Bernie differs from trump how?

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This "is horrifying to see. I'm sure trump is absolutely objective in his statements/reactions. You fucking retard trump backers now see how the the uber-wealthy love his fascist stance, but we all know it's a bullshit schtick, just like BobQat saying he isn't a MAQA yahoo. It's all to get his donor money. Sell-out."

People in glass houses ...
Oh, so you admit you're a pathetic Bernie Bro! We all knew it'd eventually come out. Commie. Admit it. You're a government worker.

Onto your usual ignorant post. First, Trump has financial backers like everyone, but what matters is the outcome. Trump brought in RFK for the votes, but also because he believes in questioning the status quo in healthcare, so shove your false equivalency up yer butt.

Secondly, Trump hasn't made a living living off donor teat like your apparent love interest Bernard.

Do you really try to make the least logical claims on the board? The adults are talking here UNI Jr. Give your dad his phone back.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:29 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:17 pm
Bernie differs from trump how?

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This "is horrifying to see. I'm sure trump is absolutely objective in his statements/reactions. You fucking retard trump backers now see how the the uber-wealthy love his fascist stance, but we all know it's a bullshit schtick, just like BobQat saying he isn't a MAQA yahoo. It's all to get his donor money. Sell-out."

People in glass houses ...
Oh, so you admit you're a pathetic Bernie Bro! We all knew it'd eventually come out. Commie. Admit it. You're a government worker.

Onto your usual ignorant post. First, Trump has financial backers like everyone, but what matters is the outcome. Trump brought in RFK for the votes, but also because he believes in questioning the status quo in healthcare, so shove your false equivalency up yer butt.

Secondly, Trump hasn't made a living living off donor teat like your apparent love interest Bernard.

Do you really try to make the least logical claims on the board? The adults are talking here UNI Jr. Give your dad his phone back.
Nice of you to admit that you're okay with legalized corruption as long as it's your guy that's profiting.

We've discussed rfk jr ad nauseum. Shaking up the status quo can be a good thing but I'm not in favor of putting a whackadoodle in charge to blow it up instead of making it better.

You should be thankful my kids don't have my phone, they're smarter than I am and they'd kick your ass worse than i do. :lol:
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:43 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:29 pm

Oh, so you admit you're a pathetic Bernie Bro! We all knew it'd eventually come out. Commie. Admit it. You're a government worker.

Onto your usual ignorant post. First, Trump has financial backers like everyone, but what matters is the outcome. Trump brought in RFK for the votes, but also because he believes in questioning the status quo in healthcare, so shove your false equivalency up yer butt.

Secondly, Trump hasn't made a living living off donor teat like your apparent love interest Bernard.

Do you really try to make the least logical claims on the board? The adults are talking here UNI Jr. Give your dad his phone back.
Nice of you to admit that you're okay with legalized corruption as long as it's your guy that's profiting.

We've discussed rfk jr ad nauseum. Shaking up the status quo can be a good thing but I'm not in favor of putting a whackadoodle in charge to blow it up instead of making it better.

You should be thankful my kids don't have my phone, they're smarter than I am and they'd kick your ass worse than i do. :lol:
I don't know if RFK, if confirmed, will be able to do much, which is okay. I don't think anyone believes it's wise to upset a system that has been around for years. Id be thrilled if he brought awareness to the fact we all don't have to be treated the same. Doctors are forced into algorithms. Very little art left to the profession. Bring that back, with an increased level of exercise and health in the schooling years and I'd say that was amazing.
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Boom!
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:18 pm Boom!
You know who else broke our nation's laws? Her boss.

Oh, the irony is rich indeed with MAQA yahoo nation.
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:33 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:18 pm Boom!
You know who else broke our nation's laws? Her boss.

Oh, the irony is rich indeed with MAQA yahoo nation.
Wrong. Trump has never been convicted of breaking any of our NATION’s laws.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:40 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:33 pm
You know who else broke our nation's laws? Her boss.

Oh, the irony is rich indeed with MAQA yahoo nation.
Wrong. Trump has never been convicted of breaking any of our NATION’s laws.
Wrong. Tbe state of New York is part of the US.
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:53 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:40 pm
Wrong. Trump has never been convicted of breaking any of our NATION’s laws.
Wrong. Tbe state of New York is part of the US.
Wrong.
-Nation refers to federal/nationwide crime. No one cares that he broke a state specific business records law that’s:
-not a federal crime.
-not a crime in the other 49 states.
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Trump and Elon are batting a thousand! Every step has been measured. Consequences have been weighed.

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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 9:25 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:53 pm
Wrong. Tbe state of New York is part of the US.
Wrong.
-Nation refers to federal/nationwide crime. No one cares that he broke a state specific business records law that’s:
-not a federal crime.
-not a crime in the other 49 states.
Wrong. We are the United States of America. The laws of our states are part of the laws of our nation.

trump is a convicted criminal and his staff making a bid deal of illigal immigrants being criminals is hypocritical no matter how many logical pretzels you or other MAQA yahoos twist yourselfs into attempting to deny it.
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 12:15 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 9:25 pm
Wrong.
-Nation refers to federal/nationwide crime. No one cares that he broke a state specific business records law that’s:
-not a federal crime.
-not a crime in the other 49 states.
Wrong. We are the United States of America. The laws of our states are part of the laws of our nation.

trump is a convicted criminal and his staff making a bid deal of illigal immigrants being criminals is hypocritical no matter how many logical pretzels you or other MAQA yahoos twist yourselfs into attempting to deny it.
Wrong. We aren‘t talking about the laws of our stateS but rather the laws of ONE state. What Trump did wasn’t illegal in 49 states. Trump hasn’t violated the nation’s laws. :nod:

And no matter how much you try to ‘But Trump‘! about illegal immigrants not being criminals, they are all criminals according to US Code. :nod:
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Terrific read.

In a nutshell….

This is an older post but so damn relevant to negotiation strategy, Trump, and tariffs. Great read.
“The best, most cogent and elegantly simple explanation into the inexplicably destructive negotiating processes of the president,by Prof. David Honig of Indiana University.

Everybody I know should read this accurate and enlightening piece...

“I’m going to get a little wonky and write about Donald Trump and negotiations. For those who don't know, I'm an adjunct professor at Indiana University - Robert H. McKinney School of Law and I teach negotiations. Okay, here goes.

Trump, as most of us know, is the credited author of "The Art of the Deal," a book that was actually ghost written by a man named Tony Schwartz, who was given access to Trump and wrote based upon his observations. If you've read The Art of the Deal, or if you've followed Trump lately, you'll know, even if you didn't know the label, that he sees all dealmaking as what we call "distributive bargaining."

Distributive bargaining always has a winner and a loser. It happens when there is a fixed quantity of something and two sides are fighting over how it gets distributed. Think of it as a pie and you're fighting over who gets how many pieces. In Trump's world, the bargaining was for a building, or for construction work, or subcontractors. He perceives a successful bargain as one in which there is a winner and a loser, so if he pays less than the seller wants, he wins. The more he saves the more he wins.

The other type of bargaining is called integrative bargaining. In integrative bargaining the two sides don't have a complete conflict of interest, and it is possible to reach mutually beneficial agreements. Think of it, not a single pie to be divided by two hungry people, but as a baker and a caterer negotiating over how many pies will be baked at what prices, and the nature of their ongoing relationship after this one gig is over.

The problem with Trump is that he sees only distributive bargaining in an international world that requires integrative bargaining. He can raise tariffs, but so can other countries. He can't demand they not respond. There is no defined end to the negotiation and there is no simple winner and loser. There are always more pies to be baked. Further, negotiations aren't binary. China's choices aren't (a) buy soybeans from US farmers, or (b) don't buy soybeans. They can also (c) buy soybeans from Russia, or Argentina, or Brazil, or Canada, etc. That completely strips the distributive bargainer of his power to win or lose, to control the negotiation.

One of the risks of distributive bargaining is bad will. In a one-time distributive bargain, e.g. negotiating with the cabinet maker in your casino about whether you're going to pay his whole bill or demand a discount, you don't have to worry about your ongoing credibility or the next deal. If you do that to the cabinet maker, you can bet he won't agree to do the cabinets in your next casino, and you're going to have to find another cabinet maker.

There isn't another Canada.

So when you approach international negotiation, in a world as complex as ours, with integrated economies and multiple buyers and sellers, you simply must approach them through integrative bargaining. If you attempt distributive bargaining, success is impossible. And we see that already.

Trump has raised tariffs on China. China responded, in addition to raising tariffs on US goods, by dropping all its soybean orders from the US and buying them from Russia. The effect is not only to cause tremendous harm to US farmers, but also to increase Russian revenue, making Russia less susceptible to sanctions and boycotts, increasing its economic and political power in the world, and reducing ours. Trump saw steel and aluminum and thought it would be an easy win, BECAUSE HE SAW ONLY STEEL AND ALUMINUM - HE SEES EVERY NEGOTIATION AS DISTRIBUTIVE. China saw it as integrative, and integrated Russia and its soybean purchase orders into a far more complex negotiation ecosystem.

Trump has the same weakness politically. For every winner there must be a loser. And that's just not how politics works, not over the long run.

For people who study negotiations, this is incredibly basic stuff, negotiations 101, definitions you learn before you even start talking about styles and tactics. And here's another huge problem for us.

Trump is utterly convinced that his experience in a closely held real estate company has prepared him to run a nation, and therefore he rejects the advice of people who spent entire careers studying the nuances of international negotiations and diplomacy. But the leaders on the other side of the table have not eschewed expertise, they have embraced it. And that means they look at Trump and, given his very limited tool chest and his blindly distributive understanding of negotiation, they know exactly what he is going to do and exactly how to respond to it.

From a professional negotiation point of view, Trump isn't even bringing checkers to a chess match. He's bringing a quarter that he insists of flipping for heads or tails, while everybody else is studying the chess board to decide whether its better to open with Najdorf or Grünfeld.”

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UNI88 wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 12:15 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 9:25 pm
Wrong.
-Nation refers to federal/nationwide crime. No one cares that he broke a state specific business records law that’s:
-not a federal crime.
-not a crime in the other 49 states.
no matter how many logical pretzels you or other MAQA yahoos twist yourselfs into attempting to deny it.
Trump won .. no one that voted for Trump was twisting anything

The legal Pretzels were baked up by Alvin Bragg and his attack dog James who is infected with raging TDS

The voters saw the truth and know it was a total political hack job on Trump … a political stunt that backfired big time
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:28 am
UNI88 wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 12:15 am

no matter how many logical pretzels you or other MAQA yahoos twist yourselfs into attempting to deny it.
Trump won .. no one that voted for Trump was twisting anything

The legal Pretzels were baked up by Alvin Bragg and his attack dog James who is infected with raging TDS

The voters saw the truth and know it was a total political hack job on Trump … a political stunt that backfired big time
This will be the revisionist history put forth by the cult and America haters for years.

The documents case and his role in to trying to steal the election and J6 are slam dunks.

Garland drug his feet, SCOTUS ruled against the constitution with presidential immunity, and Trump won the 2024 election.

This won’t change no matter how long you parrot the propaganda.

Full stop.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 1:26 am
UNI88 wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 12:15 am
Wrong. We are the United States of America. The laws of our states are part of the laws of our nation.

trump is a convicted criminal and his staff making a bid deal of illigal immigrants being criminals is hypocritical no matter how many logical pretzels you or other MAQA yahoos twist yourselfs into attempting to deny it.
Wrong. We aren‘t talking about the laws of our stateS but rather the laws of ONE state. What Trump did wasn’t illegal in 49 states. Trump hasn’t violated the nation’s laws. :nod:

And no matter how much you try to ‘But Trump‘! about illegal immigrants not being criminals, they are all criminals according to US Code. :nod:
Wrong. I'm talking about the laws of our nation including the laws of our states. State laws are no less laws then federal laws.

There is also a strong possibility that trump would have been convicted of violating federal laws if Jack Smith would have started his investigation earlier.

The original point stands regardless, trump like those illegal immigrants is a criminal.It is hypocritical for his press secretary or anyone else in the administration to make a big deal of illegal immigrants or others' criminal behavior.
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kalm wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:43 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:28 am

Trump won .. no one that voted for Trump was twisting anything

The legal Pretzels were baked up by Alvin Bragg and his attack dog James who is infected with raging TDS

The voters saw the truth and know it was a total political hack job on Trump … a political stunt that backfired big time
This will be the revisionist history put forth by the cult and America haters for years.

The documents case and his role in to trying to steal the election and J6 are slam dunks.

Garland drug his feet, SCOTUS ruled against the constitution with presidential immunity, and Trump won the 2024 election.

This won’t change no matter how long you parrot the propaganda.

Full stop.
Election was mostly stolen by the media cover ups and the 51 lying traitors who have lost their security clearances

Biggest turn out of all time….. haha no way
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