Trump 2.0: MAGAA

[BDKJMU]

Substanceless babble. The economics of Covid have been discussed. Go read some more on it. Focus on historical examples of emergency spending and pandemic management and outcomes.

These fraud and debt initiatives are so transparently ideological. Every musk tweet regarding newly discovered abuse and immediately echoed by Trump has been hilariously refuted. See Gaza, Mozambique and 150 year old social security recipients. Genius boy understands neither geography or coding. Not to mention vetting and substantiating facts.

But yeah…go on believing social spending to keep the peasants from grabbing their pitchforks is the only problem.

Stop Racheal

Speaking of Rachael did you see his FAKE NEWS about the Tesla cybertruck?

[BDKJMU]

DOGE scores big court win, allowed access data on 3 federal agencies
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doge-s ... l-agencies

[Caribbean Hen]

I'm not talking Covid and only mentioned it because you mentioned Republicans were the debt problem .... geez

do you have any ideas on how to solve the entitlement problem aka social security of not ?

Is SS an entitlement program? It's something of a Ponzi scheme and it needs reform but it's not like the people who receive it haven't paid into it.

If muck and doge cut it then the gubmint should be responsible for paying me back every penny plus interest that I put into it.

Reform is correct

Kalm was crying about Grand ma not getting her check

I’m just asking for ideas on how can it be made more sustainable in the long term because really all the fraud waste and abuse that DOGE is finding is a good start, but will barely dent the debt problem … a problem that if addressed will only bring out 200 million more Karen like Kalms

[SeattleGriz]

Exactly

[SeattleGriz]

Where was this concern for those losing their jobs over COVID shots, eh hypocrite? Also, the VA needs a house cleaning. I been through all the VAs in the Pac NW as a clinical lab rep. How many have you set foot in?

BINGO. After all the BS from the left about firing fed govt workers (and blue state local and state govt workers) and military who didn’t take an experimental shot (was not a vaccine), which was unnecessary for a large segment of the population, and also trying to have private workers fired who didn’t take it, they can go fvck themselves over their hypocrital crying over govt workers losing their jobs.

The Left doesn't get it. They showed a side of themselves that gives every reasonable person pause. With 'self anointed righteousness', they were willing to destroy a person and actively advocated for such.

It's what caused Trump to get elected. The Left's trampling of individual rights and relishing in the process of destroying a person. We all saw it.

[UNI88]

Is SS an entitlement program? It's something of a Ponzi scheme and it needs reform but it's not like the people who receive it haven't paid into it.

If muck and doge cut it then the gubmint should be responsible for paying me back every penny plus interest that I put into it.

Reform is correct

Kalm was crying about Grand ma not getting her check

I’m just asking for ideas on how can it be made more sustainable in the long term because really all the fraud waste and abuse that DOGE is finding is a good start, but will barely dent the debt problem … a problem that if addressed will only bring out 200 million more Karen like Kalms

I've posted my thoughts before but here they are in a nutshell:
- Going forward, SS should be defined contribution not defined benefit (i.e. you get out of it what you put in plus interest). The money is off limits to everyone but you. If you die that money belongs to your heirs, it shouldn't be used to pay other peoples' benefits.
- I'd love to be able to control how my contributions are invested.

[BDKJMU]

Reform is correct

Kalm was crying about Grand ma not getting her check

I’m just asking for ideas on how can it be made more sustainable in the long term because really all the fraud waste and abuse that DOGE is finding is a good start, but will barely dent the debt problem … a problem that if addressed will only bring out 200 million more Karen like Kalms

I've posted my thoughts before but here they are in a nutshell:
- Going forward, SS should be defined contribution not defined benefit (i.e. you get out of it what you put in plus interest). The money is off limits to everyone but you. If you die that money belongs to your heirs, it shouldn't be used to pay other peoples' benefits.
- I'd love to be able to control how my contributions are invested.

Hey we agree on something.

[BDKJMU]

Well lookee there. After straight years of poor recruiting under Biden (3? straight missing recruiting targets) look what a upcoming change in leadership does.

No more lesbian with 2 mommies recruitment ads.

[Caribbean Hen]

I've posted my thoughts before but here they are in a nutshell:
- Going forward, SS should be defined contribution not defined benefit (i.e. you get out of it what you put in plus interest). The money is off limits to everyone but you. If you die that money belongs to your heirs, it shouldn't be used to pay other peoples' benefits.
- I'd love to be able to control how my contributions are invested.

Hey we agree on something.

Yes agree

He took his meds today

[SeattleGriz]

Newsflash. ZERO free speech censoring here.
https://apnews.com/

How is that different fromthe alleged free speech censoring in Europe that vance is whining about?

The MAQA yahoo position is that if you attempt to prevent us from saying something or call it misinformation it's censoring our free speech but it isn't if we punish those we disagree with for doing the same.

MAQA yahoos are a bunch of overly sensitive Nancys who self identify as tough guy alpha males.

Holy shit. Grossly uninformed as usual. AP still has access to POTUS, just not at specific instances. In the EU, and especially in the UK,, they censor people like we'd never tolerate in the US. You do know they cancelled a Romanian election where they didn't like the results. The usual Boogeyman. Russia interfered with the election. The old idiot savant routine. Russia is so stupid in everything, but when it comes to flipping an election with Tik Tok ads, look the fuck out! Geniuses.

Be better about being informed.

[UNI88]

How is that different fromthe alleged free speech censoring in Europe that vance is whining about?

The MAQA yahoo position is that if you attempt to prevent us from saying something or call it misinformation it's censoring our free speech but it isn't if we punish those we disagree with for doing the same.

MAQA yahoos are a bunch of overly sensitive Nancys who self identify as tough guy alpha males.

Holy shit. Grossly uninformed as usual. AP still has access to POTUS, just not at specific instances. In the UK, they censor people like we'd never tolerate in the US. You do know they cancelled a Romanian election where they didn't like the results. The usual Boogeyman. Russia interfered with the election. The old idiot savant routine. Russia is so stupid in everything, but when it comes to flipping an election with Tik Tok ads, look the fuck out! Geniuses.

Be better about being informed.

So the UK is like florida, texas, louisiana, oklahoma, and other states runs by the MAQA taliban?

Do you have proof? Does that proof take into account the differences in laws and mores between our 2 countries or do they arrogantly attempt to apply American cultural standards to another nation?

Did they cancel the election or reschedule it? Using the BDK nitpicking approach, rescheduling the election means that everyone still had an opportunity to vote, no harm no foul.

putin is a megalomaniacal dictator with no regard for human life but he's far from stupid. We should be careful in how we deal with them but it would be stupid to trust him.

[kalm]

The vast majority of the debt since 2000 has been under Republican administrations including Trump. The current budget proposal endorsed by Trump will significantly increase the debt further.

Musk is not an economist. His ideas benefit him at the expense of the working clsss.

These guys don’t actually care about the debt. They just pay lip service which you gobble up.

In your opinion and that of liberal economists.
-DOGE could get us to a balanced budget.
-Balanced budget would lead to lower interest rates
-Lower interest rates = increased GDP = increased revenue for Fed

Lol Musk is a genius when it comes to the economy.

No serious budget discussions involve trillions in additions Al tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations. And we’ll see what happens with the Doge cuts.

Musk is a genius if you’re a crony capitalist. He clearly understands little about a national economy that serves everyone. Not to mention how business like starlink and Tesla will suffer if working class safety nets, social security, and government services are slashed. This isn’t complicated stuff.

[kalm]

JoBozo and his inflation destroyed your dreams Kalm

In 2023, beneficiaries received an 8.7 percent COLA, the largest in four decades, driving a program-wide spending increase of $139 billion that year.

My dreams? I’m fortunate and doing just fine. I worry about my kids future and the less fortunate.

Inflation happens. Reagan didn’t turn things around for 3 years and he didn’t have Covid to deal with and put spending on a credit card too. It happens to both R and D admins. It’s the cost of keeping Robber Barons content.

[SeattleGriz]

Holy shit. Grossly uninformed as usual. AP still has access to POTUS, just not at specific instances. In the UK, they censor people like we'd never tolerate in the US. You do know they cancelled a Romanian election where they didn't like the results. The usual Boogeyman. Russia interfered with the election. The old idiot savant routine. Russia is so stupid in everything, but when it comes to flipping an election with Tik Tok ads, look the fuck out! Geniuses.

Be better about being informed.

So the UK is like florida, texas, louisiana, oklahoma, and other states runs by the MAQA taliban?

Do you have proof? Does that proof take into account the differences in laws and mores between our 2 countries or do they arrogantly attempt to apply American cultural standards to another nation?

Did they cancel the election or reschedule it? Using the BDK nitpicking approach, rescheduling the election means that everyone still had an opportunity to vote, no harm no foul.

putin is a megalomaniacal dictator with no regard for human life but he's far from stupid. We should be careful in how we deal with them but it would be stupid to trust him.

Way to say you didn't bother to investigate the actions against free speech in the EU without saying it.

[Caribbean Hen]

In your opinion and that of liberal economists.
-DOGE could get us to a balanced budget.
-Balanced budget would lead to lower interest rates
-Lower interest rates = increased GDP = increased revenue for Fed

Lol Musk is a genius when it comes to the economy.

No serious budget discussions involve trillions in additions Al tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations. And we’ll see what happens with the Doge cuts.

Musk is a genius if you’re a crony capitalist. He clearly understands little about a national economy that serves everyone. Not to mention how business like starlink and Tesla will suffer if working class safety nets, social security, and government services are slashed. This isn’t complicated stuff.

Gold

How much do we really have? Nobody knows but check Biden’s basement

Why are the banks buying it and what could happen to the debt if they factored in the unrealized gains in the price of gold

Some banks bought gold 90 years ago for 35 dollars an ounce and today it’s trading at close to $3,000 per ounce

[UNI88]

49% > 46%

[Skjellyfetti]

Embarrassing

Trump administration wants to un-fire nuclear safety workers but can’t figure out how to reach them

The workers, whose agency oversees the nation’s nuclear stockpile, had been fired on Thursday and lost access to their federal government email accounts.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation ... rcna192345

[kalm]

[BDKJMU]

Newsflash. ZERO free speech censoring here.
https://apnews.com/

How is that different fromthe alleged free speech censoring in Europe that vance is whining about?

The MAQA yahoo position is that if you attempt to prevent us from saying something or call it misinformation it's censoring our free speech but it isn't if we punish those we disagree with for doing the same.

MAQA yahoos are a bunch of overly sensitive Nancys who self identify as tough guy alpha males.

Well for starters no one has been thrown in prison over here.

[BDKJMU]

I'm not talking Covid and only mentioned it because you mentioned Republicans were the debt problem .... geez

do you have any ideas on how to solve the entitlement problem aka social security of not ?

I don’t see a problem that needs solving. I see a system that has lifted the elderly out of poverty, provided a retirement with dignity for those who have worked for it and those less fortunate who qualify because of disability and survivor benefits.

The problem would be not continuing to fund it or in spending its reserves for unintended reasons.

Do yourself a favor and read this entire speech from one of the greatest Republican presidents in history. Few of these issues and needs have changed much in over a century.

In every wise struggle for human betterment one of the main objects, and often the only object, has been to achieve in large measure equality of opportunity. In the struggle for this great end, nations rise from barbarism to civilization, and through it people press forward from one stage of enlightenment to the next. One of the chief factors in progress is the destruction of special privilege. The essence of any struggle for healthy liberty has always been, and must always be, to take from some one man or class of men the right to enjoy power, or wealth, or position, or immunity, which has not been earned by service to his or their fellows. That is what you fought for in the Civil War, and that is what we strive for now.

At many stages in the advance of humanity, this conflict between the men who possess more than they have earned and the men who have earned more than they possess is the central condition of progress. In our day it appears as the struggle of freemen to gain and hold the right of self-government as against the special interests, who twist the methods of free government into machinery for defeating the popular will. At every stage, and under all circumstances, the essence of the struggle is to equalize opportunity, destroy privilege, and give to the life and citizenship of every individual the highest possible value both to himself and to the commonwealth. That is nothing new. All I ask in civil life is what you fought for in the Civil War. I ask that civil life be carried on according to the spirit in which the army was carried on. You never get perfect justice, but the effort in handling the army was to bring to the front the men who could do the job. Nobody grudged promotion to Grant, or Sherman, or Thomas, or Sheridan, because they earned it. The only complaint was when a man got promotion which he did not earn.

Practical equality of opportunity for all citizens, when we achieve it, will have two great results. First, every man will have a fair chance to make of himself all that in him lies; to reach the highest point to which his capacities, unassisted by special privilege of his own and unhampered by the special privilege of others, can carry him, and to get for himself and his family substantially what he has earned. Second, equality of opportunity means that the commonwealth will get from every citizen the highest service of which he is capable. No man who carries the burden of the special privileges of another can give to the commonwealth that service to which it is fairly entitled.

I stand for the square deal. But when I say that I am for the square deal, I mean not merely that I stand for fair play under the present rules of the game, but that I stand for having those rules changed so as to work for a more substantial equality of opportunity and of reward for equally good service. One word of warning, which, I think, is hardly necessary in Kansas. When I say I want a square deal for the poor man, I do not mean that I want a square deal for the man who remains poor because he has not got the energy to work for himself. If a man who has had a chance will not make good, then he has got to quit. And you men of the Grand Army, you want justice for the brave man who fought, and punishment for the coward who shirked his work. Is that not so?

Now, this means that our government, National and State, must be freed from the sinister influence or control of special interests. Exactly as the special interests of cotton and slavery threatened our political integrity before the Civil War, so now the great special business interests too often control and corrupt the men and methods of government for their own profit. We must drive the special interests out of politics. That is one of our tasks to-day. Every special interest is entitled to justice--full, fair, and complete--and, now, mind you, if there were any attempt by mob-violence to plunder and work harm to the special interest, whatever it may be, that I most dislike, and the wealthy man, whomsoever he may be, for whom I have the greatest contempt, I would fight for him, and you would if you were worth your salt. He should have justice. For every special interest is entitled to justice, but not one is entitled to a vote in Congress, to a voice on the bench, or to representation in any public office. The Constitution guarantees protection to property, and we must make that promise good. But it does not give the right of suffrage to any corporation.

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/bl ... ism-speech

Lol you’re truing to compare 120ish years ago to today. Under Teddy we didn’t have a Ponzi entitlement retirement scheme, medicaid, and medicare rampant with fraud that is bankrupting this country. We also disn’t have a large chunk of the world sucking off the US tits acting as the world’s ATM, food bank, and policeman.

[BDKJMU]

In your opinion and that of liberal economists.
-DOGE could get us to a balanced budget.
-Balanced budget would lead to lower interest rates
-Lower interest rates = increased GDP = increased revenue for Fed

Lol Musk is a genius when it comes to the economy.

No serious budget discussions involve trillions in additions Al tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations. And we’ll see what happens with the Doge cuts.

Musk is a genius if you’re a crony capitalist. He clearly understands little about a national economy that serves everyone. Not to mention how business like starlink and Tesla will suffer if working class safety nets, social security, and government services are slashed. This isn’t complicated stuff.

Lol at your claim that Musk understands little about a national economy when he’s literally founded/co founded multiple companies worth trillions (worth more than most national economies) and is the most transformative figure in corporate America in our lifetime.

No one is talking about slashling social safety nets to American citizens who can verify they are entitled to them lol. They are talking about slashing the fraud rate. I didn’t want use just a link from a conk site or Trump admin, so note the below from the Biden GAO. 2018-2022, 1/4 to 1/2 trillion a year estimate (Fed only) entitlement fraud, #s way higher now since govt spending way higher now compared to 2018-2022
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-24-105833

Lexis Nexis CEO this week. Dude sounds like a nerd who knows what he is talking about. If you don’t want to listen to the whole 5+ min, 2:30 to 3:15 mark. Claims could save 1 trillion a year (combined local/state/Fed) by doing 3 simple things: eliminating self certification, installing front end ID verification, and monitoring the back end of the programs providing the benefits.

[kalm]

No serious budget discussions involve trillions in additions Al tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations. And we’ll see what happens with the Doge cuts.

Musk is a genius if you’re a crony capitalist. He clearly understands little about a national economy that serves everyone. Not to mention how business like starlink and Tesla will suffer if working class safety nets, social security, and government services are slashed. This isn’t complicated stuff.

Lol at your claim that Musk understands little about a national economy when he’s literally founded/co founded multiple companies worth trillions (worth more than most national economies) and is the most transformative figure in corporate America in our lifetime.

No one is talking about slashling social safety nets to American citizens who can verify they are entitled to them lol. They are talking about slashing the fraud rate. I didn’t want use just a link from a conk site or Trump admin, so note the below from the Biden GAO. 2018-2022, 1/4 to 1/2 trillion a year estimate (Fed only) entitlement fraud, #s way higher now since govt spending way higher now compared to 2018-2022
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-24-105833

Lexis Nexis CEO this week. Dude sounds like a nerd who knows what he is talking about. If you don’t want to listen to the whole 5+ min, 2:30 to 3:15 mark. Claims could save 1 trillion a year (combined local/state/Fed) by doing 3 simple things: eliminating self certification, installing front end ID verification, and monitoring the back end of the programs providing the benefits.

I let you try again based on the complete whiff in your first paragraph alone. Lol. Hint: You’re comparing two different things in business success and running an entire national economy.

[BDKJMU]

Lol at your claim that Musk understands little about a national economy when he’s literally founded/co founded multiple companies worth trillions (worth more than most national economies) and is the most transformative figure in corporate America in our lifetime.

No one is talking about slashling social safety nets to American citizens who can verify they are entitled to them lol. They are talking about slashing the fraud rate. I didn’t want use just a link from a conk site or Trump admin, so note the below from the Biden GAO. 2018-2022, 1/4 to 1/2 trillion a year estimate (Fed only) entitlement fraud, #s way higher now since govt spending way higher now compared to 2018-2022
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-24-105833

Lexis Nexis CEO this week. Dude sounds like a nerd who knows what he is talking about. If you don’t want to listen to the whole 5+ min, 2:30 to 3:15 mark. Claims could save 1 trillion a year (combined local/state/Fed) by doing 3 simple things: eliminating self certification, installing front end ID verification, and monitoring the back end of the programs providing the benefits.

I let you try again based on the complete whiff in your first paragraph alone. Lol. Hint: You’re comparing two different things in business success and running an entire national economy.

National economy should be run like a business.

[kalm]

I don’t see a problem that needs solving. I see a system that has lifted the elderly out of poverty, provided a retirement with dignity for those who have worked for it and those less fortunate who qualify because of disability and survivor benefits.

The problem would be not continuing to fund it or in spending its reserves for unintended reasons.

Do yourself a favor and read this entire speech from one of the greatest Republican presidents in history. Few of these issues and needs have changed much in over a century.


https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/bl ... ism-speech

Lol you’re truing to compare 120ish years ago to today. Under Teddy we didn’t have a Ponzi entitlement retirement scheme, medicaid, and medicare rampant with fraud that is bankrupting this country. We also disn’t have a large chunk of the world sucking off the US tits acting as the world’s ATM, food bank, and policeman.

It’s the direction TR wanted to go with his square deal and ideals of a humble but good life for working Americans.

It’s amazing how some ideas never get old, eh?

[BDKJMU]

Only the govt could ‘misplace’ 1.9 billion..