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UNI88 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 8:06 am
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 2:58 am
lol no it’s not.

This is just one step in taking away due process from anyone he deems an enemy/opponent. I have no problem with evicting them if the legal process is followed. He isn't following it. aileen cannon was also an activist "single judge in a single city".

The trump regime willfullly disregarding a judicial order is a step toward a Constitutional crisis.

Judges' orders should be respected while the legal process plays out. If the final court ruling finds in trump's favor then he can move forward with each initiative.

He was fine dragging things out for his indictments but now he's in a hurry and doesn't like the process being used against him.

He swore an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States to the best of his ability not when it was convenient for him.
Cannon was hearing a case that occurred in HER JURISDICTION.

As far as this deportation flights case, the judge had no authority. Of course SCOTUS can decide if it goes that far.
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District court judges should be able to issue injunctions that have are enforced in the entirety of their respective circuit jurisdictions.
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But allowing nationwide injunctions, while not allowing judges in other circuits to overrule enforcement of said injunction in their own districts, means any interest group at any given time can judge shop for ONE of 677 federal district court judges (slots for) in ANY part of the country, and have that judge stop ANY exec branch policy/rule that hasn’t been ruled on by higher courts. EASY to do. That’s why these nationwide injunctions should be respected in their respective circuits they were issued in, but ignored outside of the circuits they were issued in. Nationwide decisions on Exec branch policy should be made by SCOTUS, not low level, lone district court judges.
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Re: Trump 2.0: MAGAA

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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:05 pm
kalm wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 12:12 pm

The VA in many instances is understaffed. This includes the Cerner software switch they did a few years ago that massively hurt the efficiency from IT admin, to specialists.

Aside from disarming soft power, reducing the spread of disease outbreaks from reaching the U.S., or, you know, feeding the poor it’s literally effecting US farmers who grow crops for the org.

Schools like EWU which are already self imposing cuts are further affected by the loss of even small amounts of federal funding and grants. Research universities provide the private sector with products and discoveries that benefit all of society and are then privatized. EG: medical research.

The fact you think there’re no consequences to these cuts is evidently quite hard for you to grasp.
VA isn’t understaffed. From Oct 2024 (only quoted about the 1st half)
…Last July, VA projected a $15 billion shortfall between this year and the end of next year. The VA’s budget has grown 50 percent since 2021. But naturally, VA bureaucrats claim they need a budget increase to cover the shortfall due to more hiring and heavier case workloads after the rollout of the PACT Act. But their own numbers and estimates contradict what they are asking Congress for and why.

Let’s’ compare the VA budget spin versus the facts.

VA is over-hiring beyond the staff it needs to deliver care. Secretary Denis McDonough has said the VA expects its health care workforce to grow to approximately 404,000 employees. In fact, the VA’s workforce dashboard already shows 417,296 employees onboard, over 34,000 more employees than the 383,186 employees needed in the FY 2025 budget.

Further, McDonough said the VA determined VHA will need to continue hiring so it can provide more veterans with more care. But again, based on the budget, VA is expecting to provide fewer outpatient visits and inpatient care at its VA facilities in FY 2025. Why would it then need to hire more to provide less for veterans?


Finally, VA says it’s providing “more care and more benefits to more veterans than ever before.” But veterans’ enrollment in a broken VA system does not translate to more care. In fact, the overall number of veterans using VA care since 2021 has dropped by more than 62,000. This includes estimates for 2025 with PACT Act expected to only increase costs by 0.4 percent.

Throwing more money at the problem isn’t a solution, but some real solutions do exist.

Community care allows veterans to use the private providers of their choice and is expected to increase in 2025 because veterans prefer it.

It is a great deal, as it provides about 40 percent of veterans care at only about 26 percent of the budget, saving VA money. VA’s own survey of veterans in 2022 found overall satisfaction with community care is at 83 percent, while overall satisfaction with VA hospitals is only 69 percent….

Another solution is to focus on direct budget savings and congressional oversight. VA could save almost $3.5 billion per year if it stopped hiring unneeded employees. It could save another $3.5 billion a year if it stopped providing VA care to almost 1 million non-veterans, including non-veteran employees. Implementing the VA “Red Team” Executive Roundtable Report’s recommendation to have VHA as a secondary payer for nonservice-connected care could save around $1.73 billion per year….
https://thehill.com/opinion/congress-bl ... ation/amp/

Then how pray tell did EWU manage to survive prior to the creation of the Dept of Education?

The fact that we had better education results before the creation of the Dept of Education, with less interference from DC, with less per pupil inflation adjusted spending is evidently quite hard for you to grasp.
Hmmm. Seems to be some conflicting information here. Do you know anyone who is a provider with the VA? Or anyone who’s complained about long waits?

Both this and Education spending are complex issues with many factors.
Cuts to the federal workforce are also affecting medical care for veterans. The Veterans Health Administration workforce constitutes 90% of the VA’s 482,000 workers, so cuts to VA workers mean cuts to health care.

These cuts come at a time when veterans’ health care needs are increasing. The VA enrolled 400,000 veterans in its benefits system from March 2023 through March 2024, 30% more than the prior year. It also expanded eligibility for former service members to receive VA health care. Trump’s cuts will make it more difficult for the VA to provide health care for these newly eligible veterans.

These cuts roll back President Joe Biden’s investment in the VA to address long-standing staffing problems. The Office of Inspector General’s 2024 report on VA staffing shortages reveals that 137 of 139 VA health centers nationwide report a severe staffing shortage in at least one area, particularly nursing and psychology.

Staff shortages have led to long wait times for care. These wait times vary from days to months, with some VA clinics still so understaffed that they are unable to take new patients for primary care or mental health needs. Staff increases over the past few years shortened wait times while providing care to more veterans.

In 2024, the VA said it was working hard to fill its 66,000 vacancies, aiming to improve health care for the more than 9 million veterans it serves.

Now, just one year later, the VA faces the loss of 83,000 jobs. These cuts may contribute to fundamental changes in VA health care. Rather than help veterans directly, the VA may pay for veterans to seek medical care outside the VA system, leading to higher costs and lower quality.
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Re: trump 0.2: MAQAA

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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 8:48 am
UNI88 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 8:06 am

This is just one step in taking away due process from anyone he deems an enemy/opponent. I have no problem with evicting them if the legal process is followed. He isn't following it. aileen cannon was also an activist "single judge in a single city".

The trump regime willfullly disregarding a judicial order is a step toward a Constitutional crisis.

Judges' orders should be respected while the legal process plays out. If the final court ruling finds in trump's favor then he can move forward with each initiative.

He was fine dragging things out for his indictments but now he's in a hurry and doesn't like the process being used against him.

He swore an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States to the best of his ability not when it was convenient for him.
Cannon was hearing a case that occurred in HER JURISDICTION.

As far as this deportation flights case, the judge had no authority. Of course SCOTUS can decide if it goes that far.
It could be argued that the documents were taken from DC, belonged in DC and that DC was the proper jurisdiction for the case.

Why doesn't the judge have authority? If you don't want liberals shopping for friendly jurisdictions then the government shouldn't be able to move an illegal immigrant in order to remove him/her from an unfriendly jurisdiction. The proper jurisdiction should be the court where the immigrant was picked up.

What happens if the case plays out and SCOTUS (or whatever the final court is) rules against the executive branch?
- Will they be responsible for finding and returning the immigrant(s)?
- Will they be criminally and civilly liable for denying the immigrant(s) their right to due process?

The prudent approach is to pause the executive branch action and let the case play out in the courts. The executive branch can proceed if they're successful and you avoid a serious mess if they're aren't.

This is a slippery slope. If they're willing to deny immigrants their right to due process, what's to say they won't attempt to deny it to you or me in the future?
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Re: Trump 2.0: MAGAA

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Because our green cards are not being revoked.

They signed up for this
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Re: trump 0.2: MAQAA

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Federal workers cast Trump's many Mar-a-Lago trips as working from home
“I happen to be a believer that you have to go to work. I don’t think you can work from home,” Trump said on Feb. 11. “Nobody’s going to work from home, they’re going to be going out, they’re going to play tennis, they’re going to play golf. They’re going to do a lot of things. They’re not working.”

Three days later, Trump traveled to his sprawling Mar-a-Lago mansion in Palm Beach, where he remained for parts of six consecutive days, according to an NBC News tracker. On one of the days, Trump signed two executive orders and a memorandum. He also held an impromptu press conference.

In other words, he worked from home.

That weekend, he did what he accused federal workers of doing: He went golfing. Between Feb. 14 and Feb. 19, he golfed on four different days. While he is far from the first president to do so, each golfing trip is a cost to taxpayers.
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“It’s clear and should be to the rest of Americans that it’s never about ‘the rule,’ it’s about who’s making the rules,” said a federal employee with the Department of Education who is also a disabled veteran. “This all fits in so perfectly to the power dynamics installed by this administration — a dynamic where Trump does what he wants, to who he wants, without repercussions.”

“The return-to-office mandate was never about effectiveness, collaboration or cohesion,” the employee added. “It was always about federal employees being ‘traumatically affected,’ as Russell Vought put it.”
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At the same time, Trump has hit the links 14 times to date in his second term, with a potential for more rounds expected in the immediate future. Just since January, the cost of Trump’s golf weekends to taxpayers is more than $18 million, according to one analysis.
Classic "do as I say, not as I do" hypocrisy.

How much will trump's personal travel and golf cost taxpayers. doge needs to take a look at those unnecessary expenses.
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Re: trump 0.2: MAQAA

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Trump calls for jailing his perceived opponents in Justice Department speech
Trump called U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, who helped dismiss his classified documents case, a “brilliant” judge, while condemning “horrible human beings” whom he accused of disparaging Cannon.

“It’s totally illegal what they do. I just hope you can all watch for it, but it’s totally illegal, and it was so unfair what they were doing to her,” Trump said.
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Calling former special counsel Jack Smith “deranged,” Trump referred to the hundreds of Jan. 6 defendants he pardoned on his first day in office as “hostages” and said the Justice Department would not return to what he declared as an era of weaponization.
Judges threatened with impeachment, bombs for ruling against Trump agenda
Federal judges who have ruled against the Trump administration this year are confronting a wave of threats, potentially compromising their personal safety and the independence of the judiciary.

The sister of Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett received a bomb threat earlier this month, and lower court judges who hit pause on some of President Trump's efforts to dismantle federal agencies and programs have been singled out on social media.
Judges in Trump-related cases face unprecedented wave of threats
U.S.District Judge Royce Lamberth has been threatened by angry criminals. Drug cartels. Even al Qaeda.

But nothing, Lamberth says, prepared him for the wave of harassment after he began hearing cases against supporters of former President Donald Trump who attacked the U.S. Capitol in a bid to overturn the 2020 election.
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Since late 2020, Trump has ramped up his criticism of the judiciary dramatically, first amid his dozens of failed lawsuits seeking to overturn his election loss and, more recently, amid a cascade of criminal and civil litigation. In that time, serious threats against federal judges alone have more than doubled, from 220 in 2020 to 457 in 2023, as Reuters reported on Feb. 13.
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More "do as I say, not as I do" hypocrisy from il Douche, donito trumpolini.

If it's "illegal" to disparage judge cannon then it's also illegal to disparage the judges who oversaw or are overseeing trump's other cases.

Going after his perceived opponents is weaponizing the DoJ.
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Re: trump 0.2: MAQAA

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UNI88 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 2:02 pm Federal workers cast Trump's many Mar-a-Lago trips as working from home
“I happen to be a believer that you have to go to work. I don’t think you can work from home,” Trump said on Feb. 11. “Nobody’s going to work from home, they’re going to be going out, they’re going to play tennis, they’re going to play golf. They’re going to do a lot of things. They’re not working.”

Three days later, Trump traveled to his sprawling Mar-a-Lago mansion in Palm Beach, where he remained for parts of six consecutive days, according to an NBC News tracker. On one of the days, Trump signed two executive orders and a memorandum. He also held an impromptu press conference.

In other words, he worked from home.

That weekend, he did what he accused federal workers of doing: He went golfing. Between Feb. 14 and Feb. 19, he golfed on four different days. While he is far from the first president to do so, each golfing trip is a cost to taxpayers.
...
“It’s clear and should be to the rest of Americans that it’s never about ‘the rule,’ it’s about who’s making the rules,” said a federal employee with the Department of Education who is also a disabled veteran. “This all fits in so perfectly to the power dynamics installed by this administration — a dynamic where Trump does what he wants, to who he wants, without repercussions.”

“The return-to-office mandate was never about effectiveness, collaboration or cohesion,” the employee added. “It was always about federal employees being ‘traumatically affected,’ as Russell Vought put it.”
...
At the same time, Trump has hit the links 14 times to date in his second term, with a potential for more rounds expected in the immediate future. Just since January, the cost of Trump’s golf weekends to taxpayers is more than $18 million, according to one analysis.
Classic "do as I say, not as I do" hypocrisy.

How much will trump's personal travel and golf cost taxpayers. doge needs to take a look at those unnecessary expenses.
Every president golfs, Obama more than most. Weak argument since its just peanuts in the grand scheme of things.
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Re: Trump 2.0: MAGAA

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In case any rational person should need more examples of why supporting Trumpmusk is supporting bad guys…
The US defense department webpage celebrating an army general who served in the Vietnam war and was awarded the country’s highest military decoration has been removed and the letters “DEI” added to the site’s address.

On Saturday, US army Maj Gen Charles Calvin Rogers’s Medal of Honor webpage led to a “404” error message. The URL was also changed, with the word “medal” changed to “deimedal”.

Rogers, who was awarded the Medal of Honor by then president Richard Nixon in 1970, served in the Vietnam war, where he was wounded three times while leading the defense of a base.

According to the West Virginia military hall of fame, Rogers was the highest-ranking African American to receive the medal. After his death in 1990, Rogers’s remains were buried at the Arlington national cemetery in Washington DC, and in 1999 a bridge in Fayette county, where Rogers was born, was renamed the Charles C Rogers Bridge….

the entry’s Google preview reads: “Medal of Honor Monday: Army Maj Gen. Charles Calvin Rogers.” Below it are the words: “Army Maj Gen Charles Calvin Rogers served through all of it. As a Black man, he worked for gender and race equality while in the service.”

“Google his name and the entry below comes up. When you click, you’ll see the page has been deleted and the URL changed to include ‘DEI medal,’” Friedman wrote.
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Re: Trump 2.0: MAGAA

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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 8:48 am
UNI88 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 8:06 am

This is just one step in taking away due process from anyone he deems an enemy/opponent. I have no problem with evicting them if the legal process is followed. He isn't following it. aileen cannon was also an activist "single judge in a single city".

The trump regime willfullly disregarding a judicial order is a step toward a Constitutional crisis.

Judges' orders should be respected while the legal process plays out. If the final court ruling finds in trump's favor then he can move forward with each initiative.

He was fine dragging things out for his indictments but now he's in a hurry and doesn't like the process being used against him.

He swore an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States to the best of his ability not when it was convenient for him.
Cannon was hearing a case that occurred in HER JURISDICTION.

As far as this deportation flights case, the judge had no authority. Of course SCOTUS can decide if it goes that far.
...at this point, he realized he had fucked up.

Both Klan and Uni have gone off the deep end.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 2:37 pm Trump calls for jailing his perceived opponents in Justice Department speech
Trump called U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, who helped dismiss his classified documents case, a “brilliant” judge, while condemning “horrible human beings” whom he accused of disparaging Cannon.

“It’s totally illegal what they do. I just hope you can all watch for it, but it’s totally illegal, and it was so unfair what they were doing to her,” Trump said.
...
Calling former special counsel Jack Smith “deranged,” Trump referred to the hundreds of Jan. 6 defendants he pardoned on his first day in office as “hostages” and said the Justice Department would not return to what he declared as an era of weaponization.
Judges threatened with impeachment, bombs for ruling against Trump agenda
Federal judges who have ruled against the Trump administration this year are confronting a wave of threats, potentially compromising their personal safety and the independence of the judiciary.

The sister of Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett received a bomb threat earlier this month, and lower court judges who hit pause on some of President Trump's efforts to dismantle federal agencies and programs have been singled out on social media.
Judges in Trump-related cases face unprecedented wave of threats
U.S.District Judge Royce Lamberth has been threatened by angry criminals. Drug cartels. Even al Qaeda.

But nothing, Lamberth says, prepared him for the wave of harassment after he began hearing cases against supporters of former President Donald Trump who attacked the U.S. Capitol in a bid to overturn the 2020 election.
...
Since late 2020, Trump has ramped up his criticism of the judiciary dramatically, first amid his dozens of failed lawsuits seeking to overturn his election loss and, more recently, amid a cascade of criminal and civil litigation. In that time, serious threats against federal judges alone have more than doubled, from 220 in 2020 to 457 in 2023, as Reuters reported on Feb. 13.
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More "do as I say, not as I do" hypocrisy from il Douche, donito trumpolini.

If it's "illegal" to disparage judge cannon then it's also illegal to disparage the judges who oversaw or are overseeing trump's other cases.

Going after his perceived opponents is weaponizing the DoJ.
With this and challenging the pardons of J6 committee members, he’s gearing up to dare SCOTUS to rule against him. He already did a trial run by suing CBS and threatening media outlets.

He wants a constitutional crisis.

Control the media, control the courts, and threaten all opposition.

It won’t work in nation of 330 million but it will cause necessary hardship not the least of which is giving up our influence on the world stage and crashing the economy.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 8:06 am
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 2:58 am
lol no it’s not.

This is just one step in taking away due process from anyone he deems an enemy/opponent. I have no problem with evicting them if the legal process is followed. He isn't following it. aileen cannon was also an activist "single judge in a single city".

The trump regime willfullly disregarding a judicial order is a step toward a Constitutional crisis.

Judges' orders should be respected while the legal process plays out. If the final court ruling finds in trump's favor then he can move forward with each initiative.

He was fine dragging things out for his indictments but now he's in a hurry and doesn't like the process being used against him.

He swore an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States to the best of his ability not when it was convenient for him.
So call Trump and tell him you have some spare bedrooms and you volunteer to watch over these boys
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 10:20 am
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 8:48 am
Cannon was hearing a case that occurred in HER JURISDICTION.

As far as this deportation flights case, the judge had no authority. Of course SCOTUS can decide if it goes that far.
It could be argued that the documents were taken from DC, belonged in DC and that DC was the proper jurisdiction for the case.

Why doesn't the judge have authority? If you don't want liberals shopping for friendly jurisdictions then the government shouldn't be able to move an illegal immigrant in order to remove him/her from an unfriendly jurisdiction. The proper jurisdiction should be the court where the immigrant was picked up.

What happens if the case plays out and SCOTUS (or whatever the final court is) rules against the executive branch?
- Will they be responsible for finding and returning the immigrant(s)?
- Will they be criminally and civilly liable for denying the immigrant(s) their right to due process?

The prudent approach is to pause the executive branch action and let the case play out in the courts. The executive branch can proceed if they're successful and you avoid a serious mess if they're aren't.

This is a slippery slope. If they're willing to deny immigrants their right to due process, what's to say they won't attempt to deny it to you or me in the future?
-Section 2, Article 50 of the Constitution.
-SCOTUS won‘t.

-They’re not immigrants. Those would be people who came to the US legally. Members of Tren De Aragua aren’t immigrants. They‘re criminal illegal aliens.
-Zero concern.
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Any judge displaying an incurable case of TDS should be disbarred and put on disability
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kalm wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 4:16 pm In case any rational person should need more examples of why supporting Trumpmusk is supporting bad guys…
The US defense department webpage celebrating an army general who served in the Vietnam war and was awarded the country’s highest military decoration has been removed and the letters “DEI” added to the site’s address.

On Saturday, US army Maj Gen Charles Calvin Rogers’s Medal of Honor webpage led to a “404” error message. The URL was also changed, with the word “medal” changed to “deimedal”.

Rogers, who was awarded the Medal of Honor by then president Richard Nixon in 1970, served in the Vietnam war, where he was wounded three times while leading the defense of a base.

According to the West Virginia military hall of fame, Rogers was the highest-ranking African American to receive the medal. After his death in 1990, Rogers’s remains were buried at the Arlington national cemetery in Washington DC, and in 1999 a bridge in Fayette county, where Rogers was born, was renamed the Charles C Rogers Bridge….

the entry’s Google preview reads: “Medal of Honor Monday: Army Maj Gen. Charles Calvin Rogers.” Below it are the words: “Army Maj Gen Charles Calvin Rogers served through all of it. As a Black man, he worked for gender and race equality while in the service.”

“Google his name and the entry below comes up. When you click, you’ll see the page has been deleted and the URL changed to include ‘DEI medal,’” Friedman wrote.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:58 am Going after waste, fraud, abuse was ok for donks before Trump starting doing it.
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But, but, but…another kid did it first!

Malicious compliance!!! (Whatever that means!)

DEI isn’t fair!!! My fragile white male ego won’t tolerate it!

TDS!!!

I won a few more votes which really matters when deciding law!!!

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This Radical Left Lunatic of a Judge, a troublemaker and agitator who was sadly appointed by Barack Hussein Obama, was not elected President - He didn’t WIN the popular VOTE (by a lot!), he didn’t WIN ALL SEVEN SWING STATES, he didn’t WIN 2,750 to 525 Counties, HE DIDN’T WIN ANYTHING! I WON FOR MANY REASONS, IN AN OVERWHELMING MANDATE, BUT FIGHTING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION MAY HAVE BEEN THE NUMBER ONE REASON FOR THIS HISTORIC VICTORY. I’m just doing what the VOTERS wanted me to do. This judge, like many of the Crooked Judges’ I am forced to appear before, should be IMPEACHED!!! WE DON’T WANT VICIOUS, VIOLENT, AND DEMENTED CRIMINALS, MANY OF THEM DERANGED MURDERERS, IN OUR COUNTRY. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 4:22 am Any judge displaying an incurable case of TDS should be disbarred and put on disability
Bye bye aieen cannon. Her tDS Type II is incurable.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 4:12 am
UNI88 wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 10:20 am

It could be argued that the documents were taken from DC, belonged in DC and that DC was the proper jurisdiction for the case.

Why doesn't the judge have authority? If you don't want liberals shopping for friendly jurisdictions then the government shouldn't be able to move an illegal immigrant in order to remove him/her from an unfriendly jurisdiction. The proper jurisdiction should be the court where the immigrant was picked up.

What happens if the case plays out and SCOTUS (or whatever the final court is) rules against the executive branch?
- Will they be responsible for finding and returning the immigrant(s)?
- Will they be criminally and civilly liable for denying the immigrant(s) their right to due process?

The prudent approach is to pause the executive branch action and let the case play out in the courts. The executive branch can proceed if they're successful and you avoid a serious mess if they're aren't.

This is a slippery slope. If they're willing to deny immigrants their right to due process, what's to say they won't attempt to deny it to you or me in the future?
-Section 2, Article 50 of the Constitution.
-SCOTUS won‘t.

-They’re not immigrants. Those would be people who came to the US legally. Members of Tren De Aragua aren’t immigrants. They‘re criminal illegal aliens.
-Zero concern.
I watched the first 3 minutes. He didn't school anyone. Only Congress can declare the US at war. Has Congress declared we are at war? No. Then the act doesn't apply.

Are gang members in the US a problem? Yes. I have no problem with detaining them and going through the process to deport them. But we are a nation of laws and rights and we should follow those laws and people should have access to their rights.
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Re: trump 0.2: MAQAA

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UNI88 wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 8:25 am
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 4:12 am
-Section 2, Article 50 of the Constitution.
-SCOTUS won‘t.

-They’re not immigrants. Those would be people who came to the US legally. Members of Tren De Aragua aren’t immigrants. They‘re criminal illegal aliens.
-Zero concern.
I watched the first 3 minutes. He didn't school anyone. Only Congress can declare the US at war. Has Congress declared we are at war? No. Then the act doesn't apply.

Are gang members in the US a problem? Yes. I have no problem with detaining them and going through the process to deport them. But we are a nation of laws and rights and we should follow those laws and people should have access to their rights.
Why anyone would use Discount Goebels to make a point is truly amazing. The dude is a lunatic. :lol:
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 8:25 am
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 4:12 am
-Section 2, Article 50 of the Constitution.
-SCOTUS won‘t.

-They’re not immigrants. Those would be people who came to the US legally. Members of Tren De Aragua aren’t immigrants. They‘re criminal illegal aliens.
-Zero concern.
I watched the first 3 minutes. He didn't school anyone. Only Congress can declare the US at war. Has Congress declared we are at war? No. Then the act doesn't apply.

Are gang members in the US a problem? Yes. I have no problem with detaining them and going through the process to deport them. But we are a nation of laws and rights and we should follow those laws and people should have access to their rights.
Well, you missed the most relevant part. It was later on in the exchange where he emphasized the ‘OR
And the Venezuelan govt allowed this to happen.
Whenever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government, and the President makes public proclamation of the event, all natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects of the hostile nation or government, being of the age of fourteen years and upward, who shall be within the United States and not actually naturalized, shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured, and removed as alien enemies. The President is authorized in any such event, by his proclamation thereof, or other public act, to direct the conduct to be observed on the part of the United States, toward the aliens who become so liable; the manner and degree of the restraint to which they shall be subject and in what cases, and upon what security their residence shall be permitted, and to provide for the removal of those who, not being permitted to reside within the United States, refuse or neglect to depart therefrom; and to establish any other regulations which are found necessary in the premises and for the public safety.
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?pat ... ion=prelim

Aside from the Alien Enemies Act, Miller also pointed out at the 7:45 mark, the judge put the lives of everyone aboard at risk with his unlawful order to turn those overseas flights around.
-Did he know the flights conditions?
-Did he know the fuel conditions of those planes?
-Did he know the weather conditions?
-Did he know the crew hours/crew rest requirements?
These were flights full or hardened criminals that couldn‘t just land anywhere..
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Re: trump 0.2 MAQAA

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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 8:40 am
UNI88 wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 8:25 am
I watched the first 3 minutes. He didn't school anyone. Only Congress can declare the US at war. Has Congress declared we are at war? No. Then the act doesn't apply.

Are gang members in the US a problem? Yes. I have no problem with detaining them and going through the process to deport them. But we are a nation of laws and rights and we should follow those laws and people should have access to their rights.
Well, you missed the most relevant part. It was later on in the exchange where he emphasized the ‘OR
And the Venezuelan govt allowed this to happen.
Whenever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government, and the President makes public proclamation of the event, all natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects of the hostile nation or government, being of the age of fourteen years and upward, who shall be within the United States and not actually naturalized, shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured, and removed as alien enemies. The President is authorized in any such event, by his proclamation thereof, or other public act, to direct the conduct to be observed on the part of the United States, toward the aliens who become so liable; the manner and degree of the restraint to which they shall be subject and in what cases, and upon what security their residence shall be permitted, and to provide for the removal of those who, not being permitted to reside within the United States, refuse or neglect to depart therefrom; and to establish any other regulations which are found necessary in the premises and for the public safety.
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?pat ... ion=prelim

Aside from the Alien Enemies Act, Miller also pointed out at the 7:45 mark, the judge put the lives of everyone aboard at risk with his unlawful order to turn those overseas flights around.
-Did he know the flights conditions?
-Did he know the fuel conditions of those planes?
-Did he know the weather conditions?
-Did he know the crew hours/crew rest requirements?
These were flights full or hardened criminals that couldn‘t just land anywhere..
Has the President made a public proclamation of war? That would have grabbed the headlines. Shouldn't we detain the suspects until we know they're enemy combatants? What if trump deports someone who is here legally and is not a combatant? What is the recourse? What is the government's civil and criminal liability?

You're going to blame the judge for putting people's lives at risk and give the administration a pass for the risks of rushing to get the flight into the air before the judge could rule?

Just another example of MAQA yahoos projecting their faults on others.
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Left today: Trump is ignoring judges’ orders!
Left in 2023: Biden admin should ignore judges’ orders!
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