Domestic Terrorism on Tesla

[Gil Dobie]

Left should just boycott Tesla, but they are using violence against the company.

From NPR

"It's absolutely domestic terrorism. I know that may discomfort many people. But vandalism is a crime that if it's committed with a political motive, can certainly be defined as terrorism," says Bruce Hoffman, senior fellow for counterterrorism and homeland security at the Council on Foreign Relations. He is the co-author of the forthcoming book, God, Guns, and Sedition: Far-Right Terrorism in America.

[SeattleGriz]

Left should just boycott Tesla, but they are using violence against the company.

From NPR

"It's absolutely domestic terrorism. I know that may discomfort many people. But vandalism is a crime that if it's committed with a political motive, can certainly be defined as terrorism," says Bruce Hoffman, senior fellow for counterterrorism and homeland security at the Council on Foreign Relations. He is the co-author of the forthcoming book, God, Guns, and Sedition: Far-Right Terrorism in America.

Watch Klan and Uni St Behar try to simply wave it away.

[kalm]

Left should just boycott Tesla, but they are using violence against the company.

From NPR

"It's absolutely domestic terrorism. I know that may discomfort many people. But vandalism is a crime that if it's committed with a political motive, can certainly be defined as terrorism," says Bruce Hoffman, senior fellow for counterterrorism and homeland security at the Council on Foreign Relations. He is the co-author of the forthcoming book, God, Guns, and Sedition: Far-Right Terrorism in America.

Watch Klan and Uni St Behar try to simply wave it away.

On the contrary, I’m opposed to vandalism and destruction of property. I do agree on your hypocrisy for not regarding J6 as terrorism. Or Trumpmusk’s continued soft pedaling of schotastic terrorism.

[UNI88]

Left should just boycott Tesla, but they are using violence against the company.

From NPR

"It's absolutely domestic terrorism. I know that may discomfort many people. But vandalism is a crime that if it's committed with a political motive, can certainly be defined as terrorism," says Bruce Hoffman, senior fellow for counterterrorism and homeland security at the Council on Foreign Relations. He is the co-author of the forthcoming book, God, Guns, and Sedition: Far-Right Terrorism in America.

I'm not going to wave this away, he makes reasonable points rather than resorting to hyperbole and name calling (everyone who disagrees with him is a radical left lunatic). He also isn't a hypocrite who calls violence against tesla domestic terrorism after saying that January 6 was mostly peaceful, no big deal, etc.

The info for his book - God, Guns, and Sedition: Far-Right Terrorism in America leads with ...

Shocking acts of terrorism have erupted from violent American far-right extremists in recent years, including the 2015 mass murder at a historic Black church in Charleston and the January 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol. These incidents, however, are neither novel nor unprecedented. They are the latest flashpoints in a process that has been unfolding for decades, in which vast conspiracy theories and radical ideologies such as white supremacism, racism, antisemitism, xenophobia, and hostility to government converge into a deadly threat to democracy.

I'm going to read his book.

Let's hear the MAQA yahoos on here either agree that he's reasonable on both fronts or talk out of both sides of their mouth to declare that he's right about the attacks on tesla but wrong about acts of terrorism from the violent American far-right.

[Gil Dobie]

According to the left using guns is the bigger of 2 evils.

January 6 is more similar to the riots in Minneapolis day 1, only the state and city government let it burn over several days, allowing it to get worse January 6th was a shorter event, stopped before DC burned. Participants equal blame that first 24 hours.

Tesla violence using guns and bombs is the next level, same as Minneapolis after day 1.

[kalm]

According to the left using guns is the bigger of 2 evils.

January 6 is more similar to the riots in Minneapolis day 1, only the state and city government let it burn over several days, allowing it to get worse January 6th was a shorter event, stopped before DC burned. Participants equal blame that first 24 hours.

Tesla violence using guns and bombs is the next level, same as Minneapolis after day 1.

In an attempted coup?

[Bobcat]

According to the left using guns is the bigger of 2 evils.

January 6 is more similar to the riots in Minneapolis day 1, only the state and city government let it burn over several days, allowing it to get worse January 6th was a shorter event, stopped before DC burned. Participants equal blame that first 24 hours.

Tesla violence using guns and bombs is the next level, same as Minneapolis after day 1.

In an attempted coup?

Nope, not in any way. Coup have violence and guns and the only guns were the cops that killed an unarmed white woman. In retrospect if I had know losers were going to try and act like this was a big deal years later, I wish they would have had guns so your argument fits.

It doesnt

[UNI88]

According to the left using guns is the bigger of 2 evils.

January 6 is more similar to the riots in Minneapolis day 1, only the state and city government let it burn over several days, allowing it to get worse January 6th was a shorter event, stopped before DC burned. Participants equal blame that first 24 hours.

Tesla violence using guns and bombs is the next level, same as Minneapolis after day 1.

We disagree Gil.

January 6 was an attack on the Capitol of the United States of America, arguably the most important building in the country. The intent of the riot was to interfere with the Constitutional transfer of power a more significant event than any and all events combined impacted by the AnTiFa/BLM riots or tesla violence. And contrary to the FAKE NEWS that some yahoos try to pedal, there was violence on January 6 - one intruder died, almost 140 officers were injured, and 4 officers committed suicide afterward.

"Between USCP and our colleagues at the Metropolitan Police Department, we have almost 140 officers injured," union chairman Gus Papathanasiou said in a statement released Wednesday. "I have officers who were not issued helmets prior to the attack who have sustained brain injuries. One officer has two cracked ribs and two smashed spinal discs. One officer is going to lose his eye, and another was stabbed with a metal fence stake."

Capitol Police Union Reveals Cops Suffered 'Brain Injuries,' Loss of Eye After Pro-Trump Riot



I will not be silent when MAQA yahoos try to whitewash history and paint January 6 as a mostly peaceful event and no big deal. It wasn't, it was a violent and seditious attack on our institutions of government.

[SeattleGriz]

Watch Klan and Uni St Behar try to simply wave it away.

On the contrary, I’m opposed to vandalism and destruction of property. I do agree on your hypocrisy for not regarding J6 as terrorism. Or Trumpmusk’s continued soft pedaling of schotastic terrorism.

Only stochastic terrorism was your's and UNI statements about Trump and Musk used to foment hatred, only to see you deny you did any such thing.

You and UNI lost. Nobody is buying your "poor everything" routine. Both you pushed nonsense for years and unfortunately, now you have to reap the fact no one is listening.

[Gil Dobie]

According to the left using guns is the bigger of 2 evils.

January 6 is more similar to the riots in Minneapolis day 1, only the state and city government let it burn over several days, allowing it to get worse January 6th was a shorter event, stopped before DC burned. Participants equal blame that first 24 hours.

Tesla violence using guns and bombs is the next level, same as Minneapolis after day 1.

We disagree Gil.

January 6 was an attack on the Capitol of the United States of America, arguably the most important building in the country. The intent of the riot was to interfere with the Constitutional transfer of power a more significant event than any and all events combined impacted by the AnTiFa/BLM riots or tesla violence. And contrary to the FAKE NEWS that some yahoos try to pedal, there was violence on January 6 - one intruder died, almost 140 officers were injured, and 4 officers committed suicide afterward.

"Between USCP and our colleagues at the Metropolitan Police Department, we have almost 140 officers injured," union chairman Gus Papathanasiou said in a statement released Wednesday. "I have officers who were not issued helmets prior to the attack who have sustained brain injuries. One officer has two cracked ribs and two smashed spinal discs. One officer is going to lose his eye, and another was stabbed with a metal fence stake."

Capitol Police Union Reveals Cops Suffered 'Brain Injuries,' Loss of Eye After Pro-Trump Riot



I will not be silent when MAQA yahoos try to whitewash history and paint January 6 as a mostly peaceful event and no big deal. It wasn't, it was a violent and seditious attack on our institutions of government.

A sitting governor letting a city burn, a police precinct burn. I still don't feel safe in downtown Minneapolis, but I'm fine walking near the US capitol. January 6th was squelched rather quickly. They were 2 different bad events, but Minneapolis was more violent and destructive over a longer period of time.

[Gil Dobie]

According to the left using guns is the bigger of 2 evils.

January 6 is more similar to the riots in Minneapolis day 1, only the state and city government let it burn over several days, allowing it to get worse January 6th was a shorter event, stopped before DC burned. Participants equal blame that first 24 hours.

Tesla violence using guns and bombs is the next level, same as Minneapolis after day 1.

In an attempted coup?

Would you feel safe driving around the country in a Tesla, or were you more concerned the January 6th crowd would take over the government?

I had no doubt the January 6th crowd would be stopped relatively quick.

[Gil Dobie]

I have concerns that the Tesla violence will continue.

It's good advice not to park near a Tesla in a parking lot.

[kalm]

In an attempted coup?

Would you feel safe driving around the country in a Tesla, or were you more concerned the January 6th crowd would take over the government?

I had no doubt the January 6th crowd would be stopped relatively quick.

I wouldn’t drive a Tesla. They’re too unreliable and unsafe on their own.

The two scenarios are not even close to comparable.

Would you be more concerned with losing your social security or rights as LGBTQ or brown skinned person vs. driving a Tesla?

[UNI88]

We disagree Gil.

January 6 was an attack on the Capitol of the United States of America, arguably the most important building in the country. The intent of the riot was to interfere with the Constitutional transfer of power a more significant event than any and all events combined impacted by the AnTiFa/BLM riots or tesla violence. And contrary to the FAKE NEWS that some yahoos try to pedal, there was violence on January 6 - one intruder died, almost 140 officers were injured, and 4 officers committed suicide afterward.

Capitol Police Union Reveals Cops Suffered 'Brain Injuries,' Loss of Eye After Pro-Trump Riot



I will not be silent when MAQA yahoos try to whitewash history and paint January 6 as a mostly peaceful event and no big deal. It wasn't, it was a violent and seditious attack on our institutions of government.

A sitting governor letting a city burn, a police precinct burn. I still don't feel safe in downtown Minneapolis, but I'm fine walking near the US capitol. January 6th was squelched rather quickly. They were 2 different bad events, but Minneapolis was more violent and destructive over a longer period of time.

Yes, the AnTiFa/BLM riots were more violent and destructive over time but they couldn't be called an attempted coup. No matter how ham-handed and unlikely to succeed January 6 was, it could reasonably be called an attempted coup.

A sitting President encouraging a mob to storm the US Capitol in an attempt to prevent the Constitutional transfer of power and hold on to the presidency is a pretty significant event in our nation's history.

Anyone who calls vandalism against tesla (or protests supporting Palestinians) domestic terrorism but has attempted to minimize the significance of January 6 or worse calls the January 6 rioters patriots, hostages, etc. is a hypocrite.

[UNI88]

[Gil Dobie]

A sitting governor letting a city burn, a police precinct burn. I still don't feel safe in downtown Minneapolis, but I'm fine walking near the US capitol. January 6th was squelched rather quickly. They were 2 different bad events, but Minneapolis was more violent and destructive over a longer period of time.

Yes, the AnTiFa/BLM riots were more violent and destructive over time but they couldn't be called an attempted coup. No matter how ham-handed and unlikely to succeed January 6 was, it could reasonably be called an attempted coup.

A sitting President encouraging a mob to storm the US Capitol in an attempt to prevent the Constitutional transfer of power and hold on to the presidency is a pretty significant event in our nation's history.

Anyone who calls vandalism against tesla (or protests supporting Palestinians) domestic terrorism but has attempted to minimize the significance of January 6 or worse calls the January 6 rioters patriots, hostages, etc. is a hypocrite.

You are diverting from the point again. The premise of January 6th is more serious, not the point though. Violence used is my point. The protest was allowed to become more violent in Minneapolis. Tesla protest are more violent.

[Gil Dobie]

Would you feel safe driving around the country in a Tesla, or were you more concerned the January 6th crowd would take over the government?

I had no doubt the January 6th crowd would be stopped relatively quick.

I wouldn’t drive a Tesla. They’re too unreliable and unsafe on their own.

The two scenarios are not even close to comparable.

Would you be more concerned with losing your social security or rights as LGBTQ or brown skinned person vs. driving a Tesla?

They are related, they are both associated with different levels of protest .

I'm not concerned with anything on your list. News media is stroking everyone's fear to gain views and improve metrics. Treat everyone's rights equal.

[Gil Dobie]

According to the left using guns is the bigger of 2 evils.

January 6 is more similar to the riots in Minneapolis day 1, only the state and city government let it burn over several days, allowing it to get worse January 6th was a shorter event, stopped before DC burned. Participants equal blame that first 24 hours.

Tesla violence using guns and bombs is the next level, same as Minneapolis after day 1.

In an attempted coup?

In the use of violence.

[kalm]

I wouldn’t drive a Tesla. They’re too unreliable and unsafe on their own.

The two scenarios are not even close to comparable.

Would you be more concerned with losing your social security or rights as LGBTQ or brown skinned person vs. driving a Tesla?

They are related, they are both associated with different levels of protest .

I'm not concerned with anything on your list. News media is stroking everyone's fear to gain views and improve metrics. Treat everyone's rights equal.

The motivation and organization of each event are not even close.

Start with violence and destruction of property are wrong. The reasons behind each situation are subject to opinion. But to equate the Tesla vandalism that’s occurred to J6 via the George Floyd protests is quite the circuitous route.

It’s like saying what’s more concerning: that we accept that 1000’s die every year, directly related to healthcare decisions based on profit, or that one healthcare CEO gets murdered over his company’s decisions?

We seem to be complacent about the former but shocked by the second. Why?

[Gil Dobie]

They are related, they are both associated with different levels of protest .

I'm not concerned with anything on your list. News media is stroking everyone's fear to gain views and improve metrics. Treat everyone's rights equal.

The motivation and organization of each event are not even close.

Start with violence and destruction of property are wrong. The reasons behind each situation are subject to opinion. But to equate the Tesla vandalism that’s occurred to J6 via the George Floyd protests is quite the circuitous route.

It’s like saying what’s more concerning: that we accept that 1000’s die every year, directly related to healthcare decisions based on profit, or that one healthcare CEO gets murdered over his company’s decisions?

We seem to be complacent about the former but shocked by the second. Why?

Tesla - Guns & Bombs
Minneapolis - Guns and bombs
January 6 - mob attack
Healthcare went to hell with Obama care. Screwed 300 million to say they helped 30 million people. Should of just helped the 30 million, now big pharma is filthy rich.

[kalm]

The motivation and organization of each event are not even close.

Start with violence and destruction of property are wrong. The reasons behind each situation are subject to opinion. But to equate the Tesla vandalism that’s occurred to J6 via the George Floyd protests is quite the circuitous route.

It’s like saying what’s more concerning: that we accept that 1000’s die every year, directly related to healthcare decisions based on profit, or that one healthcare CEO gets murdered over his company’s decisions?

We seem to be complacent about the former but shocked by the second. Why?

Tesla - Guns & Bombs
Minneapolis - Guns and bombs
January 6 - mob attack
Healthcare went to hell with Obama care. Screwed 300 million to say they helped 30 million people. Should of just helped the 30 million, now big pharma is filthy rich.

Gil - turning more MAGA by the minute.

Obamacare - I agree. It still kept on making life and death decisions profitable. The CEO’s don’t get to skate either.

[Gil Dobie]

Tesla - Guns & Bombs
Minneapolis - Guns and bombs
January 6 - mob attack
Healthcare went to hell with Obama care. Screwed 300 million to say they helped 30 million people. Should of just helped the 30 million, now big pharma is filthy rich.

Gil - turning more MAGA by the minute.

Obamacare - I agree. It still kept on making life and death decisions profitable. The CEO’s don’t get to skate either.

I'm talking mode of violence; you are trying to spin it into what the acts stand for. All are terrorism, but they are different levels of violence.

[kalm]

Gil - turning more MAGA by the minute.

Obamacare - I agree. It still kept on making life and death decisions profitable. The CEO’s don’t get to skate either.

I'm talking mode of violence; you are trying to spin it into what the acts stand for. All are terrorism, but they are different levels of violence.

Criminal intent plays a role Gil. Maybe not to you.

Violence is unlawful regardless of mode.

[Caribbean Hen]

Klam racking up more credits as Gil is taking him to school

The leftist are showing the Proud Boys how to really use violence

J6 was a joke compared to the evil that has been activated now

[UNI88]

Gil - turning more MAGA by the minute.

Obamacare - I agree. It still kept on making life and death decisions profitable. The CEO’s don’t get to skate either.

I'm talking mode of violence; you are trying to spin it into what the acts stand for. All are terrorism, but they are different levels of violence.

You can attempt to put the spotlight on the level and duration of the violence while shifting attention away from the intent and the location of the protests but I'm not going to play along.

There is no reasonable argument that vandalism against tesla or the AnTiFa/BLM riots were domestic terrorism but January 6 wasn't.