Culture Wars

[UNI88]

Chief Petty Officer hegseth ...

[kalm]

Chief Petty Officer hegseth ...

[kalm]

UNI on a roll today.

[Caribbean Hen]

UNI on a roll today.

No he’s not

Not his material ….

[UNI88]

Yes if they had no ties to the Navy. Navy ships have traditionally been named after places (such as states, cities, towns), famous battles, POTUSes, Admirals, Naval CMH winners, and others with ties to the Navy.

Was his biographer Randy Shilts in his book ‘The Mayor of Castro Street’ not reliable?

If the Navy wants to ensure that only people with associations with the Navy are used as names for ships, that's fine. Say that. There aren't that many that don't have a naval connection (only 3 commissioned vessels - Carl Levin, Gabby Giffords, and Henry Jackson, and then a smattering more non-commissioned vessels, and then it's largely the John Lewis class of replenishment ships). Strangely, Harvey Milk actually did have a naval connection as he served in the Navy in the early 1950's until his homosexuality became known and, as the armed forces did at the time, he was discharged. So if you want to say you only want naval connections, then say that out loud and proceed that way.

If you want to make it a point to be antagonistic to gay people then wait until a month that is connected to celebrating gay people and then publicize that you're removing the name of a gay American from a ship that until this moment, very few people knew. Hegseth could've made this move months ago when he adopted his "warfighting" mantra. Instead, he wanted to embitter gay people. So much for focusing on warfighting.

I have a suggestion - they can rename the USNS Harvey Milk to the USNS Larry Braunstein. He represents the "warrior ethos" that hegseth worships.

[BDKJMU]

Obama went full full bore in breaking Navy tradition by naming ships after:
-SCOTUS Justices (Marshall and Ginsburg)
-Civil Rights leaders Cesar Chavez, Medgar Evers, Harriet Tubman, Dolores Huerta, Lucy Stone. Only Chavez had a connection to the Navy, serving 2 years which he said he hated.
-Congressman (John Lewis) with no ties to the Navy. A couple of Senators had ships named after them, but they were longtime members of the Armed Services Committees who were major Navy proponents, which Lewis wasn’t in the House.

These ships are under consideration for renaming.

[UNI88]

Obama went full full bore in breaking Navy tradition by naming ships after:
-SCOTUS Justices (Marshall and Ginsburg)
-Civil Rights leaders Cesar Chavez, Medgar Evers, Harriet Tubman, Dolores Huerta, Lucy Stone. Only Chavez had a connection to the Navy, serving 2 years which he said he hated.
-Congressman (John Lewis) with no ties to the Navy. A couple of Senators had ships named after them, but they were longtime members of the Armed Services Committees who were major Navy proponents, which Lewis wasn’t in the House.

These ships are under consideration for renaming.

I didn't realize Obama was POTUS in 1967 (USS Samuel Gompers), 2001 (USS Winston Churchill), or 2007 (USNS Amelia Earhart).

[BDKJMU]

Obama went full full bore in breaking Navy tradition by naming ships after:
-SCOTUS Justices (Marshall and Ginsburg)
-Civil Rights leaders Cesar Chavez, Medgar Evers, Harriet Tubman, Dolores Huerta, Lucy Stone. Only Chavez had a connection to the Navy, serving 2 years which he said he hated.
-Congressman (John Lewis) with no ties to the Navy. A couple of Senators had ships named after them, but they were longtime members of the Armed Services Committees who were major Navy proponents, which Lewis wasn’t in the House.

These ships are under consideration for renaming.

I didn't realize Obama was POTUS in 1967 (USS Samuel Gompers), 2001 (USS Winston Churchill), or 2007 (USNS Amelia Earhart).

Gompers was named by another donk, Johnson.

The Churchill naming was by Clinton. Churchill had a ginormous tie to the US military during our most significant international war since the Revolution.

Earhart (awarded a DFC by Congress although not in the military) is literally is in the US National Naval Aviation Museum.

[UNI88]

I didn't realize Obama was POTUS in 1967 (USS Samuel Gompers), 2001 (USS Winston Churchill), or 2007 (USNS Amelia Earhart).

Gompers was named by another donk, Johnson.

The Churchill naming was by Clinton. Churchill had a ginormous tie to the US military during our most significant international war since the Revolution.

Earhart (awarded a DFC by Congress although not in the military) is literally is in the US National Naval Aviation Museum.

Irrelevant to the reality that the Navy naming tradition wasn't ironclad before Obama.

USNS Larry Braunstein is the perfect name for trump, hegseth and MAQA yahoos.

[UNI88]

[kalm]

I would rate congresswoman Miller of average to high intelligence for the current Republican Party.

[UNI88]

[UNI88]

Trump’s war against DEI isn’t going so well in Virginia

Some context is helpful. For decades, Black advocates sought to desegregate Thomas Jefferson High School, one of the nation’s top-ranked public schools. As recently as 2012, the NAACP filed a civil rights complaint alleging that the school’s admissions policies discriminated against African American and Hispanic students and students with disabilities. Things shifted in 2020. As racial justice protests erupted across the globe, local leaders grappled with the fact that in a county with roughly 100,000 Black residents, Thomas Jefferson High School admitted so few Black students that the number was too small to report. The state convened a task force to examine the causes of this ongoing exclusion at Thomas Jefferson and other Virginia schools.

Following a series of hearings, the board revised the school’s admissions process, eliminating a $100 application fee and a standardized testing requirement. Contrary to ongoing claims that the new policy compromised “merit,” the board raised the minimum GPA for admission from 3.0 to 3.5 and added an honors course requirement. The new policy also implemented a holistic evaluation that included new “experience factors,” such as whether the applicant qualified for reduced meals or is an English language learner. The updated process also ensured that each middle school receive a number of seats equal to 1.5 percent of its eighth-grade class.

The school board resolved that “[t]he admission process must use only race-neutral methods that do not seek to achieve any specific racial or ethnic mix, balance or targets.” This means that admissions officials are not told the race, ethnicity, sex or name of any applicant. In Supreme Court parlance, the entire admissions process was “colorblind.”

The new process produced promising results. In its inaugural year, Thomas Jefferson High School received 1,000 more applicants than the prior cycle. This larger applicant pool also “included markedly more low-income students, English-language learners, and girls than had prior classes at TJ.” Consistent with the heightened GPA requirement, the admitted class’s mean GPA was higher than in the five preceding years.

The new process also yielded greater racial diversity. Black students comprised 10 percent of the applicant pool and received nearly 8 percent of offers and Hispanic students comprised 11 percent of the applicant pool and received over 11 percent of offers. The overall percentage of Asian American students decreased from the preceding year, but Asian Americans continued to enjoy the highest percentage yield of all racial groups. And as the Fourth Circuit detailed, Asian American students from historically underrepresented middle schools “saw a sixfold increase in offers, and the number of low-income Asian American admittees to TJ increased to 51 — from a mere one in 2020.”

In short, Thomas Jefferson High School adopted a “race-neutral” process to pursue a set of goals that included increasing Black and Hispanic representation. This is the precise type of practice the Trump administration denigrates as “illegal DEI.”

[GannonFan]

Trump’s war against DEI isn’t going so well in Virginia

Some context is helpful. For decades, Black advocates sought to desegregate Thomas Jefferson High School, one of the nation’s top-ranked public schools. As recently as 2012, the NAACP filed a civil rights complaint alleging that the school’s admissions policies discriminated against African American and Hispanic students and students with disabilities. Things shifted in 2020. As racial justice protests erupted across the globe, local leaders grappled with the fact that in a county with roughly 100,000 Black residents, Thomas Jefferson High School admitted so few Black students that the number was too small to report. The state convened a task force to examine the causes of this ongoing exclusion at Thomas Jefferson and other Virginia schools.

Following a series of hearings, the board revised the school’s admissions process, eliminating a $100 application fee and a standardized testing requirement. Contrary to ongoing claims that the new policy compromised “merit,” the board raised the minimum GPA for admission from 3.0 to 3.5 and added an honors course requirement. The new policy also implemented a holistic evaluation that included new “experience factors,” such as whether the applicant qualified for reduced meals or is an English language learner. The updated process also ensured that each middle school receive a number of seats equal to 1.5 percent of its eighth-grade class.

The school board resolved that “[t]he admission process must use only race-neutral methods that do not seek to achieve any specific racial or ethnic mix, balance or targets.” This means that admissions officials are not told the race, ethnicity, sex or name of any applicant. In Supreme Court parlance, the entire admissions process was “colorblind.”

The new process produced promising results. In its inaugural year, Thomas Jefferson High School received 1,000 more applicants than the prior cycle. This larger applicant pool also “included markedly more low-income students, English-language learners, and girls than had prior classes at TJ.” Consistent with the heightened GPA requirement, the admitted class’s mean GPA was higher than in the five preceding years.

The new process also yielded greater racial diversity. Black students comprised 10 percent of the applicant pool and received nearly 8 percent of offers and Hispanic students comprised 11 percent of the applicant pool and received over 11 percent of offers. The overall percentage of Asian American students decreased from the preceding year, but Asian Americans continued to enjoy the highest percentage yield of all racial groups. And as the Fourth Circuit detailed, Asian American students from historically underrepresented middle schools “saw a sixfold increase in offers, and the number of low-income Asian American admittees to TJ increased to 51 — from a mere one in 2020.”

In short, Thomas Jefferson High School adopted a “race-neutral” process to pursue a set of goals that included increasing Black and Hispanic representation. This is the precise type of practice the Trump administration denigrates as “illegal DEI.”

The real test will be what becomes of these students as they leave that high school. Are they as successful as previous student populations? Eliminating the $100 application fee was the no-brainer, that's the easy one. Eliminating the standardized test, though, is the one that lowers the standards significantly. Sure, raising the GPA requirement was supposed to help, but so many middle schools (this was to get into a high school) have such inflated grading scales, that GPA's are largely useless in most cases. Most colleges don't really use GPA's, especially ones as low as that. Apparently the goal was to open up the school to people who weren't able to get in before. Certainly has been done. As I started, though, the question will be how the students perform in the school and where they go after this. It would be interesting to see this in 4-8 years to see that impact.

[BDKJMU]

Trump’s war against DEI isn’t going so well in Virginia

Some context is helpful. For decades, Black advocates sought to desegregate Thomas Jefferson High School, one of the nation’s top-ranked public schools. As recently as 2012, the NAACP filed a civil rights complaint alleging that the school’s admissions policies discriminated against African American and Hispanic students and students with disabilities. Things shifted in 2020. As racial justice protests erupted across the globe, local leaders grappled with the fact that in a [/b]county with roughly 100,000 Black residents[/b], Thomas Jefferson High School admitted so few Black students that the number was too small to report. The state convened a task force to examine the causes of this ongoing exclusion at Thomas Jefferson and other Virginia schools.

Following a series of hearings, the board revised the school’s admissions process, eliminating a $100 application fee and a standardized testing requirement. Contrary to ongoing claims that the new policy compromised “merit,” the board raised the minimum GPA for admission from 3.0 to 3.5 and added an honors course requirement. The new policy also implemented a holistic evaluation that included new “experience factors,” such as whether the applicant qualified for reduced meals or is an English language learner. The updated process also ensured that each middle school receive a number of seats equal to 1.5 percent of its eighth-grade class.

The school board resolved that “[t]he admission process must use only race-neutral methods that do not seek to achieve any specific racial or ethnic mix, balance or targets.” This means that admissions officials are not told the race, ethnicity, sex or name of any applicant. In Supreme Court parlance, the entire admissions process was “colorblind.”

The new process produced promising results. In its inaugural year, Thomas Jefferson High School received 1,000 more applicants than the prior cycle. This larger applicant pool also “included markedly more low-income students, English-language learners, and girls than had prior classes at TJ.” Consistent with the heightened GPA requirement, the admitted class’s mean GPA was higher than in the five preceding years.

The new process also yielded greater racial diversity. Black students comprised 10 percent of the applicant pool and received nearly 8 percent of offers and Hispanic students comprised 11 percent of the applicant pool and received over 11 percent of offers. The overall percentage of Asian American students decreased from the preceding year, but Asian Americans continued to enjoy the highest percentage yield of all racial groups. And as the Fourth Circuit detailed, Asian American students from historically underrepresented middle schools “saw a sixfold increase in offers, and the number of low-income Asian American admittees to TJ increased to 51 — from a mere one in 2020.”

In short, Thomas Jefferson High School adopted a “race-neutral” process to pursue a set of goals that included increasing Black and Hispanic representation. This is the precise type of practice the Trump administration denigrates as “illegal DEI.”

Even as the Supreme Court has shifted hard right,

Tells you was written by a lefty, because only lefties think SCOTUS has shifted ‘Hard Right‘.

The author mentions roughly 100k black residents like it’s some large % of the residents (it would be for 99% of the counties in the country) but doesn‘t mention that Fairfax has roughly 1.2 million residents, one of the most populated counties in the country, so black are only a small percentage of Fairfax to begin with (I grew up about 45 min from Fairfax Co).

Eliminating standardized testing tells you it was lowering standards in the name of DEI.

[BDKJMU]

Speaking of education, an ad for homeschooling brought to you by the lunatics of the NEA.

[UNI88]

Trump’s war against DEI isn’t going so well in Virginia

Even as the Supreme Court has shifted hard right,

Tells you was written by a lefty, because only lefties think SCOTUS has shifted ‘Hard Right‘.

The author mentions roughly 100k black residents like it’s some large % of the residents (it would be for 99% of the counties in the country) but doesn‘t mention that Fairfax has roughly 1.2 million residents, one of the most populated counties in the country, so black are only a small percentage of Fairfax to begin with (I grew up about 45 min from Fairfax Co).

Eliminating standardized testing tells you it was lowering standards in the name of DEI.

Unfortunately for you and trump, prior SCOTUS rulings support attempts to achieve diversity and undo past discrimination as long as they use race neutral methods which these are.

Efforts to promote racial diversity do constitute DEI. But they are far from illegal. In fact, Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard — the 2023 decision striking down Harvard University’s formal consideration of applicant race — supports most of the DEI policies Trump now targets.

Writing for the majority, Chief Justice Roberts deemed Harvard’s underlying goals as “worthy” and “commendable.” Justice Brett Kavanaugh made the point more directly; writing for himself, Kavanaugh noted that “racial discrimination still occurs and the effects of past racial discrimination still persist” and that “universities still can, of course, act to undo the effects of past discrimination in many permissible ways that do not involve classification by race.”

[houndawg]

UNI on a roll today.

No he’s not

Not his material ….

....somebody is getting triggered by the wokeness..

[BDKJMU]

Tells you was written by a lefty, because only lefties think SCOTUS has shifted ‘Hard Right‘.

The author mentions roughly 100k black residents like it’s some large % of the residents (it would be for 99% of the counties in the country) but doesn‘t mention that Fairfax has roughly 1.2 million residents, one of the most populated counties in the country, so black are only a small percentage of Fairfax to begin with (I grew up about 45 min from Fairfax Co).

Eliminating standardized testing tells you it was lowering standards in the name of DEI.

Unfortunately for you and trump, prior SCOTUS rulings support attempts to achieve diversity and undo past discrimination as long as they use race neutral methods which these are.

Efforts to promote racial diversity do constitute DEI. But they are far from illegal. In fact, Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard — the 2023 decision striking down Harvard University’s formal consideration of applicant race — supports most of the DEI policies Trump now targets.

Writing for the majority, Chief Justice Roberts deemed Harvard’s underlying goals as “worthy” and “commendable.” Justice Brett Kavanaugh made the point more directly; writing for himself, Kavanaugh noted that “racial discrimination still occurs and the effects of past racial discrimination still persist” and that “universities still can, of course, act to undo the effects of past discrimination in many permissible ways that do not involve classification by race.”

So you think eliminating standardized test scores isn‘t lowering standards. Got it.

[UNI88]

Unfortunately for you and trump, prior SCOTUS rulings support attempts to achieve diversity and undo past discrimination as long as they use race neutral methods which these are.

So you think eliminating standardized test scores isn‘t lowering standards. Got it.

The change isn't based on race so it's legal and thus irrelevant to the debate.

[BDKJMU]

So you think eliminating standardized test scores isn‘t lowering standards. Got it.

The change isn't based on race so it's legal and thus irrelevant to the debate.

Lowering standards to bring more minorities in isn‘t irrelevant.

[kalm]

The change isn't based on race so it's legal and thus irrelevant to the debate.

Lowering standards to bring more minorities in isn‘t irrelevant.

* Race

[UNI88]

The change isn't based on race so it's legal and thus irrelevant to the debate.

Lowering standards to bring more minorities in isn‘t irrelevant.

It is based on past SCOTUS rulings and comments. Fortunately for this great nation, legal and illegal isn't based on what trump (and you) like and don't like. Switching to such a justice system might make America the worst it's ever been.

Ironic considering MAQA yahoos cheered when trump lowered standards to bring more loyalists in.

[kalm]

[BDKJMU]

Lowering standards to bring more minorities in isn‘t irrelevant.

It is based on past SCOTUS rulings and comments. Fortunately for this great nation, legal and illegal isn't based on what trump (and you) like and don't like. Switching to such a justice system might make America the worst it's ever been.

Ironic considering MAQA yahoos cheered when trump lowered standards to bring more loyalists in.

I‘m not talking about some court case. I‘m talking about something the left does in the name of DEI, getting lowering standards by getting rid of standardized test scores, something you appear to be for.

Why do you think a lot of universities that got rid of the SAT/ACT have brought them back?