Deportations of Illegal Aliens Thread

[Baldy]

This was for you.

You said it, I didn't.

[UNI88]

Denying due process is violating the Constitution.

I've asked before but no one has answered, has SCOTUS ruled that expedited removal is legal for immigrants not at the border?

Any descent human being would support giving a detainee the opportunity to call their family/friends and legal counsel. That's the kind of thing that separates the civilized from the uncivilized.

Asked and answered earlier in this thread. Trump reinstated the expedited removal policy from his first term. The policy states it doesn't matter where the illegal is apprehended, they are subject to expedited removal. It was challenged in 2020, and SCOTUS affirmed the legality of Trump's expedited removal policy.

It's not that hard to understand.

Are you saying that the expanded expedited removal policy is NOT facing legal challenges that it violates due process rights and is not authorized by the Immigration and Nationality Act?

It's up to the courts to decide if those legal challenges have merit and whether the policy should be paused while that is determined. trump is neither a dictator or a god, just because he and his MAQA yahoo sycophants want something does not automatically make it legal.

[UNI88]

IMO, January 6 was worse than the Capitol bombing or a riot over-running a police precinct because of why they were there - to disrupt the voter approved Constitutional transfer of power from trump to biden. That makes January 6 much closer to an insurrection than the ICE riots in LA, the BLM riots around the country, the Capitol bombing, etc.

It's fair to question the tactics that ICE and the trump regime are using - denying due process, wearing masks, failing to identify themselves or provide warrants/documentation, etc.

I don't think they were very different at all. We were not close to insurrection in any case. We are 50 states and I don't believe the people in any of these states would allow that to happen. Fear mongering by the media has gotten to a lot of people.

It's fair to question Trump and ICE, but to use Gestapo is ridiculous, and by an elected official.

It is just as ridiculous for trump/MAQA yahooes (many of them also elected officials) to call people who stand up to trump unhinged, radical, lunatics, Marxists, communists, socialists, fascists, etc.

Or the unhinged trump/MAQA calling people who stand up to trump unhinged, radical, lunatics, Marxists, communists, socialists, fascists, etc.

As I stated earlier, it's fair to question the tactics that ICE and the trump regime are using - denying due process, wearing masks, failing to identify themselves or provide warrants/documentation, etc. I'll add detaining people without giving them the opportunity to notify family/friends and moving detainees to far away states. If you don't want to be called a fascist then don't use fascist tactics.

Isn't it against the law to enter the country illegally?

Yes, it is illegal to enter the country illegally. But is it that simple?

• Should the Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans and Venezuelans who entered legally under biden's CHNV parole program have an opportunity to contest the change in their status or apply for asylum?
• What about the immigrants who entered illegally but then applied and are on the pathway to legal status? They're following the rules. Is it morally justifiable for the trump regime to pull the rug out from under them and use the process to trick and detain them by canceling their status the day they're scheduled for a hearing and then arresting them at the courthouse?
• How can the party of "family vaules" justify separating children from their parents?
• Should these illegal immigrants be sent to a 3rd world prison for an indeterminable (possibly life) sentence? Some of them are peaceful, hard-working people whose only crime is coming to the US seeking a better life. Sending them back to their home country is one thing, sending them to a possible life sentence in a 3rd world prison is another. That punishment exceeds the crime and is beyond cruel.

[Gil Dobie]

I don't think they were very different at all. We were not close to insurrection in any case. We are 50 states and I don't believe the people in any of these states would allow that to happen. Fear mongering by the media has gotten to a lot of people.

It's fair to question Trump and ICE, but to use Gestapo is ridiculous, and by an elected official.

It is just as ridiculous for trump/MAQA yahooes (many of them also elected officials) to call people who stand up to trump unhinged, radical, lunatics, Marxists, communists, socialists, fascists, etc.

Isn't it against the law to enter the country illegally?

Yes, it is illegal to enter the country illegally. But is it that simple?

• Should the Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans and Venezuelans who entered legally under biden's CHNV parole program have an opportunity to contest the change in their status or apply for asylum?
• What about the immigrants who entered illegally but then applied and are on the pathway to legal status? They're following the rules. Is it morally justifiable for the trump regime to pull the rug out from under them and use the process to trick and detain them by canceling their status the day they're scheduled for a hearing and then arresting them at the courthouse?
• How can the party of "family vaules" justify separating children from their parents?
• Should these illegal immigrants be sent to a 3rd world prison for an indeterminable (possibly life) sentence? Some of them are peaceful, hard-working people whose only crime is coming to the US seeking a better life. Sending them back to their home country is one thing, sending them to a possible life sentence in a 3rd world prison is another. That punishment exceeds the crime and is beyond cruel.

There are sure to be exceptions, but the Democrats are supporting a criminal activity. But Trump!

Why don't the Democrats rise above Trump instead it's tit for tat.

Party of family values huh, who would that be?

[BDKJMU]

I don't think they were very different at all. We were not close to insurrection in any case. We are 50 states and I don't believe the people in any of these states would allow that to happen. Fear mongering by the media has gotten to a lot of people.

It's fair to question Trump and ICE, but to use Gestapo is ridiculous, and by an elected official.

It is just as ridiculous for trump/MAQA yahooes (many of them also elected officials) to call people who stand up to trump unhinged, radical, lunatics, Marxists, communists, socialists, fascists, etc.

Isn't it against the law to enter the country illegally?

Yes, it is illegal to enter the country illegally. But is it that simple?

• Should the Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans and Venezuelans who entered legally under biden's CHNV parole program have an opportunity to contest the change in their status or apply for asylum?
• What about the immigrants who entered illegally but then applied and are on the pathway to legal status? They're following the rules. Is it morally justifiable for the trump regime to pull the rug out from under them and use the process to trick and detain them by canceling their status the day they're scheduled for a hearing and then arresting them at the courthouse?
• How can the party of "family vaules" justify separating children from their parents?
• Should these illegal immigrants be sent to a 3rd world prison for an indeterminable (possibly life) sentence? Some of them are peaceful, hard-working people whose only crime is coming to the US seeking a better life. Sending them back to their home country is one thing, sending them to a possible life sentence in a 3rd world prison is another. That punishment exceeds the crime and is beyond cruel.

So you agree that all the ones that aren‘t included in your 1st 2 points, which are only a fraction of the 20+ million, are fair game to be deported?

No one is separating children from parents. Parents who are deported are allowed to take their children with them.

If they committed felonies in the US in addition the the crimes related to their illegal entry, or are MS-13 or Tren De Aragua members, then yes.

[UNI88]

It is just as ridiculous for trump/MAQA yahooes (many of them also elected officials) to call people who stand up to trump unhinged, radical, lunatics, Marxists, communists, socialists, fascists, etc.

Yes, it is illegal to enter the country illegally. But is it that simple?

• Should the Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans and Venezuelans who entered legally under biden's CHNV parole program have an opportunity to contest the change in their status or apply for asylum?
• What about the immigrants who entered illegally but then applied and are on the pathway to legal status? They're following the rules. Is it morally justifiable for the trump regime to pull the rug out from under them and use the process to trick and detain them by canceling their status the day they're scheduled for a hearing and then arresting them at the courthouse?
• How can the party of "family vaules" justify separating children from their parents?
• Should these illegal immigrants be sent to a 3rd world prison for an indeterminable (possibly life) sentence? Some of them are peaceful, hard-working people whose only crime is coming to the US seeking a better life. Sending them back to their home country is one thing, sending them to a possible life sentence in a 3rd world prison is another. That punishment exceeds the crime and is beyond cruel.

There are sure to be exceptions, but the Democrats are supporting a criminal activity. But Trump!

Why don't the Democrats rise above Trump instead it's tit for tat.

Party of family values huh, who would that be?

The "Democrats are supporting a criminal activity" is . Both sides support criminal activity. Scream but trump all you want but Republicans support a convicted felon who incited a seditious riot then pardoned all the traitorous criminal participants as President. When it comes to "no one being above the law and "backing the blue", Republicans don't have the moral high ground to criticize Democrats.

Republicans are the party who self identifies as the party of "family values". Unfortunately, they're hypocrites who try to pick and choose when family values matter and when they don't rather than consistently supporting them.

I wish the Democrats would rise above trump.

No comment on it being "just as ridiculous for trump/MAQA yahooes (many of them also elected officials) to call people who stand up to trump unhinged, radical, lunatics, Marxists, communists, socialists, fascists, etc"? Unfortunately, trump has normalized him and MAQA yahoos using that kind of language but they cry like whiny little beta cucks when it's used against them. You know the old saying, don't dish it out if you can't take it. It's either wrong for both sides or it's wrong for neither.

[UNI88]

It is just as ridiculous for trump/MAQA yahooes (many of them also elected officials) to call people who stand up to trump unhinged, radical, lunatics, Marxists, communists, socialists, fascists, etc.

Yes, it is illegal to enter the country illegally. But is it that simple?

• Should the Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans and Venezuelans who entered legally under biden's CHNV parole program have an opportunity to contest the change in their status or apply for asylum?
• What about the immigrants who entered illegally but then applied and are on the pathway to legal status? They're following the rules. Is it morally justifiable for the trump regime to pull the rug out from under them and use the process to trick and detain them by canceling their status the day they're scheduled for a hearing and then arresting them at the courthouse?
• How can the party of "family vaules" justify separating children from their parents?
• Should these illegal immigrants be sent to a 3rd world prison for an indeterminable (possibly life) sentence? Some of them are peaceful, hard-working people whose only crime is coming to the US seeking a better life. Sending them back to their home country is one thing, sending them to a possible life sentence in a 3rd world prison is another. That punishment exceeds the crime and is beyond cruel.

So you agree that all the ones that aren‘t included in your 1st 2 points, which are only a fraction of the 20+ million, are fair game to be deported?

No one is separating children from parents. Parents who are deported are allowed to take their children with them.

If they committed felonies in the US in addition the the crimes related to their illegal entry, or are MS-13 or Tren De Aragua members, then yes.

So you agree that:

• Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans and Venezuelans who entered legally under biden's CHNV parole program should have an opportunity to contest the change in their status or apply for asylum.
• Immigrants who entered illegally but then applied and are on the pathway to legal status should not have that status canceled and then be detained when they show up for their hearing.
• Immigrants whose only crime is coming to the US seeking a better life and who aren't members of MS-13 or TDA or have committed a felony should not be sent to a 3rd world prison for an indeterminable (possibly life) sentence.

[BDKJMU]

So you agree that all the ones that aren‘t included in your 1st 2 points, which are only a fraction of the 20+ million, are fair game to be deported?

No one is separating children from parents. Parents who are deported are allowed to take their children with them.

If they committed felonies in the US in addition the the crimes related to their illegal entry, or are MS-13 or Tren De Aragua members, then yes.

So you agree that:

• Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans and Venezuelans who entered legally under biden's CHNV parole program should have an opportunity to contest the change in their status or apply for asylum.
• Immigrants who entered illegally but then applied and are on the pathway to legal status should not have that status canceled and then be detained when they show up for their hearing.
• Immigrants whose only crime is coming to the US seeking a better life and who aren't members of MS-13 or TDA or have committed a felony should not be sent to a 3rd world prison for an indeterminable (possibly life) sentence.

*No. If they were admitted under TPS the T stands for TEMPORARY.
AI:

The Biden administration's CHNV parole program, which provided a pathway for certain individuals from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela (CHNV) to enter the U.S. for a temporary stay, has been terminated. The program, which allowed for up to two years of legal stay and work authorization, was ended by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) on March 25, 2025. The Supreme Court upheld the termination, allowing DHS to resume issuing notices of termination and invalidating work permits tied to the program.

*If they entered illegally and are denied at that hearing they can be detained. Otherwise the chance of ICE ever detaining them is low.

[BDKJMU]

[Baldy]

Asked and answered earlier in this thread. Trump reinstated the expedited removal policy from his first term. The policy states it doesn't matter where the illegal is apprehended, they are subject to expedited removal. It was challenged in 2020, and SCOTUS affirmed the legality of Trump's expedited removal policy.

It's not that hard to understand.

Are you saying that the expanded expedited removal policy is NOT facing legal challenges that it violates due process rights and is not authorized by the Immigration and Nationality Act?

It's up to the courts to decide if those legal challenges have merit and whether the policy should be paused while that is determined. trump is neither a dictator or a god, just because he and his MAQA yahoo sycophants want something does not automatically make it legal.

Not sure how I can make it more clear to you.

Trump implemented the same expedited removal policy he had in his first administration. It was challenged back then and the Supreme Court affirmed that the policy was legal. The only way that will change is if SCOTUS takes it back up and reverses it's decision. That hasn't and isn't going to happen.

Anyone can challenge it all they want, but until SCOTUS changes its mind, nothing will change, and no judge has the authority to pause it.

[UNI88]

So you agree that:

• Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans and Venezuelans who entered legally under biden's CHNV parole program should have an opportunity to contest the change in their status or apply for asylum.
• Immigrants who entered illegally but then applied and are on the pathway to legal status should not have that status canceled and then be detained when they show up for their hearing.
• Immigrants whose only crime is coming to the US seeking a better life and who aren't members of MS-13 or TDA or have committed a felony should not be sent to a 3rd world prison for an indeterminable (possibly life) sentence.

*No. If they were admitted under TPS the T stands for TEMPORARY.
AI:

The Biden administration's CHNV parole program, which provided a pathway for certain individuals from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela (CHNV) to enter the U.S. for a temporary stay, has been terminated. The program, which allowed for up to two years of legal stay and work authorization, was ended by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) on March 25, 2025. The Supreme Court upheld the termination, allowing DHS to resume issuing notices of termination and invalidating work permits tied to the program.

*If they entered illegally and are denied at that hearing they can be detained. Otherwise the chance of ICE ever detaining them is low.

Are they being given the benefit of a hearing and then denied or are they being arrested and detained prior to the hearing or for a hearing that has been cancelled without them knowing? It would be hypocritical for a President who complained about being the victim of lawfare to be playing games with the immigration process like that.

Bottom line, they were here legally or in the process of becoming legal and their status was changed, they should be given the opportunity to make their case to stay.

[UNI88]

Are you saying that the expanded expedited removal policy is NOT facing legal challenges that it violates due process rights and is not authorized by the Immigration and Nationality Act?

It's up to the courts to decide if those legal challenges have merit and whether the policy should be paused while that is determined. trump is neither a dictator or a god, just because he and his MAQA yahoo sycophants want something does not automatically make it legal.

Not sure how I can make it more clear to you.

Trump implemented the same expedited removal policy he had in his first administration. It was challenged back then and the Supreme Court affirmed that the policy was legal. The only way that will change is if SCOTUS takes it back up and reverses it's decision. That hasn't and isn't going to happen.

Anyone can challenge it all they want, but until SCOTUS changes its mind, nothing will change, and no judge has the authority to pause it.

Then the lawsuit filed by the ACLU on behalf of Make the Road New York against the trump regime should be quickly dismissed.

You can't say that it isn't currently being challenged.

[kalm]

Ummm…see discussion above regarding due process?

You didn't answer the question.

I kind of did. It’s rather obvious.

[kalm]

This was for you.

You said it, I didn't.

I still stand by it. This one was meant for you.

[BDKJMU]

*No. If they were admitted under TPS the T stands for TEMPORARY.
AI:


*If they entered illegally and are denied at that hearing they can be detained. Otherwise the chance of ICE ever detaining them is low.

Are they being given the benefit of a hearing and then denied or are they being arrested and detained prior to the hearing or for a hearing that has been cancelled without them knowing? It would be hypocritical for a President who complained about being the victim of lawfare to be playing games with the immigration process like that.

Bottom line, they were here legally or in the process of becoming legal and their status was changed, they should be given the opportunity to make their case to stay.

For people who were admitted under TPS, if the TPS has expired, why would there need to be a hearing for people who it is confirmed entered under an expired TPS?
-The authority they entered under (TPS) has expired.
-Removal is an administrative, not criminal process.

[BDKJMU]

Female LUNATIC leftist skinhead..

[BDKJMU]

[Baldy]

Not sure how I can make it more clear to you.

Trump implemented the same expedited removal policy he had in his first administration. It was challenged back then and the Supreme Court affirmed that the policy was legal. The only way that will change is if SCOTUS takes it back up and reverses it's decision. That hasn't and isn't going to happen.

Anyone can challenge it all they want, but until SCOTUS changes its mind, nothing will change, and no judge has the authority to pause it.

Then the lawsuit filed by the ACLU on behalf of Make the Road New York against the trump regime should be quickly dismissed.

You can't say that it isn't currently being challenged.

I didn't say it wasn't or couldn't be challenged. Unless SCOTUS takes up the case and reverses their previous decision, the expedited removal policy ain't going nowhere.

[BDKJMU]

Portland being Portland…

Officers injured as Portland rioters breach ICE building with explosives and rocks
Violent protesters launched fireworks and smoke grenades while doxxing immigration officers around the city

Multiple police officers were injured in Portland, Oregon Saturday night during a violent riot at an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) facility.

A mob launched fireworks, smoke grenades and threw rocks at federal law enforcement, as they broke glass and forcibly entered the ICE facility, Homeland Security Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin told Fox News Digital.

Four officers were injured during the attack, though federal law enforcement was able to secure the facility...

https://www.foxnews.com/us/officers-inj ... ives-rocks

[Caribbean Hen]

[Gil Dobie]

There are sure to be exceptions, but the Democrats are supporting a criminal activity. But Trump!

Why don't the Democrats rise above Trump instead it's tit for tat.

Party of family values huh, who would that be?

The "Democrats are supporting a criminal activity" is . Both sides support criminal activity. Scream but trump all you want but Republicans support a convicted felon who incited a seditious riot then pardoned all the traitorous criminal participants as President. When it comes to "no one being above the law and "backing the blue", Republicans don't have the moral high ground to criticize Democrats.

Republicans are the party who self identifies as the party of "family values". Unfortunately, they're hypocrites who try to pick and choose when family values matter and when they don't rather than consistently supporting them.

I wish the Democrats would rise above trump.

No comment on it being "just as ridiculous for trump/MAQA yahooes (many of them also elected officials) to call people who stand up to trump unhinged, radical, lunatics, Marxists, communists, socialists, fascists, etc"? Unfortunately, trump has normalized him and MAQA yahoos using that kind of language but they cry like whiny little beta cucks when it's used against them. You know the old saying, don't dish it out if you can't take it. It's either wrong for both sides or it's wrong for neither.

Of course it's both sides. On the immigration issue there are far more illegals and violence that comes with it.

Very interesting watching people use CNN or Fox type conversation on this issue.

[Caribbean Hen]

Oops. Similar to pro-Palestinians in Michigan, FAFO I guess.

Team brown might want to reconsider their previously growing support for R’s.

(Grok confirmed btw).

Do you ever get tired of being ridiculous?

We're so glad you're here to call out BDK using the LOTT and endwokeness screenshots. There's no doubt that the...ummm...Trump sucks big hairy Wooly Mammoth dick twitter twat is a reliable source of information.

(BTW...pretty much nothing in that tweet is true)

I think Klam gets paid to be dumb

[Skjellyfetti]

Lol

The Trump administration directed immigration officers to pause arrests at farms, restaurants and hotels, after President Donald Trump expressed alarm about the impact of aggressive enforcement, an official said Saturday.

The move follows weeks of increased enforcement since Stephen Miller, White House deputy chief of staff and main architect of Trump’s immigration policies, said U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers would target at least 3,000 arrests a day, up from about 650 a day during the first five months of Trump’s second term.

https://www.25newsnow.com/2025/06/14/tr ... 72DZcdK_fQ

[kalm]

Do you ever get tired of being ridiculous?

We're so glad you're here to call out BDK using the LOTT and endwokeness screenshots. There's no doubt that the...ummm...Trump sucks big hairy Wooly Mammoth dick twitter twat is a reliable source of information.

(BTW...pretty much nothing in that tweet is true)

I think Klam gets paid to be dumb

It’s true. They told me my target audience was a little slow. I’m making bank off of it.

[kalm]

Lol

The Trump administration directed immigration officers to pause arrests at farms, restaurants and hotels, after President Donald Trump expressed alarm about the impact of aggressive enforcement, an official said Saturday.

The move follows weeks of increased enforcement since Stephen Miller, White House deputy chief of staff and main architect of Trump’s immigration policies, said U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers would target at least 3,000 arrests a day, up from about 650 a day during the first five months of Trump’s second term.

https://www.25newsnow.com/2025/06/14/tr ... 72DZcdK_fQ

Shocked! Shocked…I tell ya!