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Migrants who were sent to CECOT are the responsibility of US, El Salvador tells UN
El Salvador's claims, outlined in a report submitted Monday in court, appear to contradict what President Donald Trump and administration officials have been saying for months: that they are unable to return any of the migrants sent to CECOT because they're under El Salvador's authority.

"In this context, the jurisdiction and legal responsibility for these persons lie exclusively with the competent foreign authorities, by virtue of international agreements signed and in accordance with the principles of sovereignty and international cooperation in criminal matters," El Salvador officials said in their report to the U.N.
If we're sending illegal immigrants to be incarcerated for an indeterminate amount of time rather than simply deporting them to their country of origin, it's no longer simply a "civil matter and IMO their right to due process is greater as a result. We should NOT be sentencing them to prison without a trial.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Jul 24, 2025 1:23 pm Migrants who were sent to CECOT are the responsibility of US, El Salvador tells UN
El Salvador's claims, outlined in a report submitted Monday in court, appear to contradict what President Donald Trump and administration officials have been saying for months: that they are unable to return any of the migrants sent to CECOT because they're under El Salvador's authority.

"In this context, the jurisdiction and legal responsibility for these persons lie exclusively with the competent foreign authorities, by virtue of international agreements signed and in accordance with the principles of sovereignty and international cooperation in criminal matters," El Salvador officials said in their report to the U.N.
If we're sending illegal immigrants to be incarcerated for an indeterminate amount of time rather than simply deporting them to their country of origin, it's no longer simply a "civil matter and IMO their right to due process is greater as a result. We should NOT be sentencing them to prison without a trial.
You do realize their countries of origin refuse to take them back for a lot of these folks, leaving 3rd countries as the only option.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 2:56 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Jul 24, 2025 1:23 pm Migrants who were sent to CECOT are the responsibility of US, El Salvador tells UN

If we're sending illegal immigrants to be incarcerated for an indeterminate amount of time rather than simply deporting them to their country of origin, it's no longer simply a "civil matter and IMO their right to due process is greater as a result. We should NOT be sentencing them to prison without a trial.
You do realize their countries of origin refuse to take them back for a lot of these folks, leaving 3rd countries as the only option.
All of them? Why is the US able to swap Venezuelans imprisoned in El Salvador for Americans imprisoned in Venezuela if Venezuela refuses to take them back (and the US has no control over them once they go to El Salvador)?

For those that are refused reentry, they should not be imprisoned without a trial and due process.
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Winooski superintendent Wilmer Chavarria speaks out following hourslong interrogation at Houston port of entry
Despite both being U.S. citizens and having Global Entry, at customs, Chavarria said he was told to go to a different section than his husband, before being escorted to a Customs and Border Protection holding room without being given a reason.

“Every time we attempted to ask, we were met with aggressive nos and very intimidating and aggressive verbal abuse on their part whenever we wanted to ask for answers," Chavarria said.

Moments after being brought into CBP, Chavarria said he was met with an unidentified woman calling him into another room.

“I asked whether I was being detained, and she said 'You’re not being detained,'" Chavarria said. "I said, 'Then can I go?' And she said, 'No, you may not go.'"
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"When four of them were in front of me, standing while they had me sitting down, they said that I do not have rights, that my constitutional rights don't matter at a port of entry and that I should stop talking about rights," Chavarria said.

When Chavarria asked to make a phone call, he was told "'No, we're not going to do that, give us a phone number,'" he said. "I said let me access my phone so I can give you a phone number, and they said 'No, just tell us, why won't you tell us?' But like, people don't just memorize their contact list."

During the interrogation, Chavarria said the unidentified individuals attempted to threaten and manipulate him into giving them access to his professional devices, containing information about students in the Winooski District.


“I was threatened with being referred to the FBI, the FBI was mentioned multiple times," he said. "They also threatened to stain my record so I would never get a job again. They also threatened with an extended detention if I didn’t give them the passwords to the student information or to my district files."

Yet, after five hours and never giving up his students' information, Chavarria said he was finally released, at which point he said a plainclothes officer "shook [his] hand and said that he admired [Chavarria's] resilience and the fact that [he] was protecting student information."
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“I just don’t feel safe here," he said. "I feel like I’m being told over and over that this is not my country, that it doesn’t matter that I’m a U.S. citizen, I do not belong here.”

Meanwhile, his husband pointed out that their story is just one of many, among hundreds of others that go unheard.

"Who’s behind those doors right now being treated the exact same way, with grown people towering over someone, standing over someone and interrogating them?” said Dundgeon.

At this point, Chavarria said he has still not been given any reason for the interrogation but learned his Global Entry has been revoked.

He said he is working with Vermont's federal delegation to get answers, but shared concerns about pressing too hard out of fear of retaliation.
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Venezuelan team denied entry into U.S. for Little League's senior tournament
Little League® International has been notified that the Cacique Mara Little League team from Venezuela was unfortunately unable to obtain the appropriate visas to travel to the Senior League Baseball World Series in Easley, South Carolina. While this is extremely disappointing, especially to these young athletes, the Little League International Tournament Committee has made the decision to advance the second place team, Santa Maria de Aguayo Little League (Victoria, Mexico), to participate in the Senior League Baseball World Series and ensure the Latin America Region is represented in the tournament and that the players, coaches, and families from Mexico are able to have a memorable World Series experience.
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While the Senior League World Series is not a high-profile tournament, an international team being denied entry into the U.S. will be cause for concern for some, given how many international sporting events the country is set to host over the next three years, including the FIFA World Cup in 2026 and the Summer Olympics in 2028.
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Masked ICE agents detain former Afghan interpreter who helped U.S. military
He was in the United States legally and was arrested after an appointment in Connecticut related to his application for a green card under a program to protect people who worked for U.S. forces, according to human rights advocates, his attorney and members of Congress.
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Asked for comment, the Department of Homeland Security said the Afghan national entered the U.S. on Oct. 8, 2024, and is under investigation for a “serious criminal allegation,” adding, “All of his claims will be heard by a judge. Any Afghan who fears persecution is able to request relief.”
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Zia’s attorney, Lauren Petersen, said he was approved for humanitarian parole in 2024 due to a direct threat from Afghanistan’s Taliban rulers. She said he has no criminal history and, when asked about DHS’s saying he was under investigation for a “serious criminal allegation,” she said she had no understanding of what they were referring to.
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Shawn VanDiver, the founder of #AfghanEvac, the main coalition of veterans and advocacy groups that coordinated resettlements of Afghans with the U.S. government, said on the call with reporters and lawmakers that he was aware of at least two other Afghans detained after being admitted to the United States because they had worked for the U.S. military.

He said his group, and veterans organizations, were working for their release.

“It’s about whether this country honors its word to those who risk everything,” he said.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jul 23, 2025 9:53 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jul 23, 2025 5:52 pm
So an 18 yr old was detained. I’ve been detained 10 times by police (8 traffic stops and 2x had cuffs put on and 2x spent a night in jail (drunk tank) back in the early-mid 1990s when I was 18-20. Shit happens.
You got picked up by Border Patrol while on your way to work (i.e. probably in the morning and sober) and doing nothing wrong? Were you called names, told you had no rights and thrown to the ground? Were you detained for 6 hours without cause even though you were a citizen?
Well I wasn’t hanging out with a couple of illegal aliens (who knows what their records are) like this guy was.

Hang out with criminals then get treated like one until shit is sorted out.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:08 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jul 23, 2025 9:53 pm

You got picked up by Border Patrol while on your way to work (i.e. probably in the morning and sober) and doing nothing wrong? Were you called names, told you had no rights and thrown to the ground? Were you detained for 6 hours without cause even though you were a citizen?
Well I wasn’t hanging out with a couple of illegal aliens (who knows what their records are) like this guy was.

Hang out with criminals then get treated like one until shit is sorted out.
Kind of like don't act like a fascist if you don't want to be called a fascist ...
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:56 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:08 pm
Well I wasn’t hanging out with a couple of illegal aliens (who knows what their records are) like this guy was.

Hang out with criminals then get treated like one until shit is sorted out.
Kind of like don't act like a fascist if you don't want to be called a fascist ...
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Farmers are facing a fork on Trump's immigration highway. So what's next?
Now, the 56-year-old relies on about a dozen foreign-born workers, mostly from Mexico, to operate the 460-cow farm, not far from a shuttered church with peeling paint about five miles outside a town of 9,000 residents.

“If it wouldn't be for immigrants, my dairy farm wouldn't run,” he said.

In recent months, dairy farms in Texas reported absenteeism while ICE has detained or deported people at dairy farms in New York and Vermont, where one Trump-voting farmer told a news outlet he didn’t think deportations would impact the industry’s workers.

Dairies are particularly vulnerable to labor shortages because cows need daily care to survive, Brietenmoser said, and cannot be temporarily shut down like a construction site or restaurant.

“Am I concerned about it? Absolutely,” said Breitenmoser, who said he was among a minority in Lincoln County who did not support Trump in 2024. “They don't get fed and they don't get watered, and they don't get milked and they don't get cleaned up after, they will die.”

Across the nation today, about 70% of workers in the U.S. farm sector are foreign born, according to the Federal Reserve of Kansas City. The National Milk Producers Federation says milk prices could nearly double if the U.S. dairy industry loses its foreign-born workforce, the group said.
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“We've built an economy that relies on people, but we have a public policy that demonizes them. And to my way of thinking that just doesn't make any sense,” he said. “American farming cannot survive without foreign-born staff.”

The dairy farmer noted that “we had immigration reform in front of the Congress prior to the election, but because all of the Republicans were scared of Donald Trump, it didn't happen.”

The solution, he said, is “stupid simple:” Accept the realities of farm labor. Hand out more work visas. And create pathways to vet longtime workers who need legal work permits.
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 7:11 pm Farmers are facing a fork on Trump's immigration highway. So what's next?
Now, the 56-year-old relies on about a dozen foreign-born workers, mostly from Mexico, to operate the 460-cow farm, not far from a shuttered church with peeling paint about five miles outside a town of 9,000 residents.

“If it wouldn't be for immigrants, my dairy farm wouldn't run,” he said.

In recent months, dairy farms in Texas reported absenteeism while ICE has detained or deported people at dairy farms in New York and Vermont, where one Trump-voting farmer told a news outlet he didn’t think deportations would impact the industry’s workers.

Dairies are particularly vulnerable to labor shortages because cows need daily care to survive, Brietenmoser said, and cannot be temporarily shut down like a construction site or restaurant.

“Am I concerned about it? Absolutely,” said Breitenmoser, who said he was among a minority in Lincoln County who did not support Trump in 2024. “They don't get fed and they don't get watered, and they don't get milked and they don't get cleaned up after, they will die.”

Across the nation today, about 70% of workers in the U.S. farm sector are foreign born, according to the Federal Reserve of Kansas City. The National Milk Producers Federation says milk prices could nearly double if the U.S. dairy industry loses its foreign-born workforce, the group said.
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“We've built an economy that relies on people, but we have a public policy that demonizes them. And to my way of thinking that just doesn't make any sense,” he said. “American farming cannot survive without foreign-born staff.”

The dairy farmer noted that “we had immigration reform in front of the Congress prior to the election, but because all of the Republicans were scared of Donald Trump, it didn't happen.”

The solution, he said, is “stupid simple:” Accept the realities of farm labor. Hand out more work visas. And create pathways to vet longtime workers who need legal work permits.
I’m surprised the farmer didn’t ask who is gonna clean our tables at restaurants and who’s gonna clean our hotel rooms

Don’t worry, there will be plenty of migrants to assume any farm work that needs to be done and God forbid if any video game gets interrupted and some spoiled entitled American would have to do it
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Jul 28, 2025 5:01 am
I’m surprised the farmer didn’t ask who is gonna clean our tables at restaurants and who’s gonna clean our hotel rooms

Don’t worry, there will be plenty of migrants to assume any farm work that needs to be done and God forbid if any video game gets interrupted and some spoiled entitled American would have to do it
That's one of the points of the article, current immigration policy doesn't allow for "plenty of migrants to assume any farm work that needs to be done".

And that "spoiled entitled American" playing video games can't be forced to work on a farm or bus a table. The only way to fill those roles might be to pay them higher wages which means higher food, restaurant, landscaping, etc. prices. Unintended consequences.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Jul 28, 2025 7:56 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Jul 28, 2025 5:01 am

I’m surprised the farmer didn’t ask who is gonna clean our tables at restaurants and who’s gonna clean our hotel rooms

Don’t worry, there will be plenty of migrants to assume any farm work that needs to be done and God forbid if any video game gets interrupted and some spoiled entitled American would have to do it
That's one of the points of the article, current immigration policy doesn't allow for "plenty of migrants to assume any farm work that needs to be done".

And that "spoiled entitled American" playing video games can't be forced to work on a farm or bus a table. The only way to fill those roles might be to pay them higher wages which means higher food, restaurant, landscaping, etc. prices. Unintended consequences.
We have plenty of migrants to do that work and no entitled American ever will

I did serious farm labor when I was a teenager, it was hard enough to make me think boot camp was a break
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Jul 28, 2025 8:23 am
UNI88 wrote: Mon Jul 28, 2025 7:56 am

That's one of the points of the article, current immigration policy doesn't allow for "plenty of migrants to assume any farm work that needs to be done".

And that "spoiled entitled American" playing video games can't be forced to work on a farm or bus a table. The only way to fill those roles might be to pay them higher wages which means higher food, restaurant, landscaping, etc. prices. Unintended consequences.
We have plenty of migrants to do that work and no entitled American ever will

I did serious farm labor when I was a teenager, it was hard enough to make me think boot camp was a break
So you acknowledge that it can be legit, hard work, and deserves a higher wage?

I agree.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Jul 28, 2025 8:23 am
UNI88 wrote: Mon Jul 28, 2025 7:56 am
That's one of the points of the article, current immigration policy doesn't allow for "plenty of migrants to assume any farm work that needs to be done".

And that "spoiled entitled American" playing video games can't be forced to work on a farm or bus a table. The only way to fill those roles might be to pay them higher wages which means higher food, restaurant, landscaping, etc. prices. Unintended consequences.
We have plenty of migrants to do that work and no entitled American ever will

I did serious farm labor when I was a teenager, it was hard enough to make me think boot camp was a break
The borders closed.

The number of legal immigrants being given entry has dropped significantly.

Immigration judges have been pressured by the trump regeime to drop green card application cases so that legal immigrants become illegal and can be detained and deported. (Immigration judges report to and can be removed by the Attorney General)

If trump succeeds in deporting one million illegal immigrants every year and he's working to make legal immigrants illegal, will we have "plenty of migrants to do that work"?
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kalm wrote: Mon Jul 28, 2025 9:01 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Jul 28, 2025 8:23 am

We have plenty of migrants to do that work and no entitled American ever will

I did serious farm labor when I was a teenager, it was hard enough to make me think boot camp was a break
So you acknowledge that it can be legit, hard work, and deserves a higher wage?

I agree.
Huh

I said backbreaking labor motivated me to do better

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UNI88 wrote: Mon Jul 28, 2025 9:41 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Jul 28, 2025 8:23 am

We have plenty of migrants to do that work and no entitled American ever will

I did serious farm labor when I was a teenager, it was hard enough to make me think boot camp was a break
The borders closed.

The number of legal immigrants being given entry has dropped significantly.

Immigration judges have been pressured by the trump regeime to drop green card application cases so that legal immigrants become illegal and can be detained and deported. (Immigration judges report to and can be removed by the Attorney General)

If trump succeeds in deporting one million illegal immigrants every year and he's working to make legal immigrants illegal, will we have "plenty of migrants to do that work"?
Absolutely

I don’t think you realize just how open that border was
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jul 29, 2025 4:46 am
kalm wrote: Mon Jul 28, 2025 9:01 am

So you acknowledge that it can be legit, hard work, and deserves a higher wage?

I agree.
Huh

I said backbreaking labor motivated me to do better

Thank you Mr. Robert for motivating me to get off your watermelon plantation
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Chokeholds, bikers and 'roving patrols': Are Trump's ICE tactics legal?
Frimpong's order stops agents from using race, ethnicity, language, accent, location or employment as a pretext for immigration enforcement across Los Angeles, Riverside, San Bernardino, Orange, Ventura, Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo counties. The judge found that without other evidence, those criteria alone or in combination do not meet the 4th Amendment bar for reasonable suspicion.
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ICE Risks Overplaying Its Hand. We’ve Seen It Happen Before.
Militarized federal encroachments on public life provoke strong, even violent responses — even among those who agree with their aims.
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We’ve already seen signs of what’s to come. Like when, according to eyewitness accounts, around 30 heavily armed ICE agents raided Buona Forchetta, a family-owned Italian restaurant in San Diego’s South Park, handcuffing four immigrant workers and using flash‑bang grenades against civilians. Or the scene in Los Angeles earlier this summer, where the administration deployed guardsmen and active-duty military and ICE arrested over 1,600 persons, including workers at car washes and farms — even people making lawful appearances in immigration court. Or the case of Carol Mayorga, a Hong Kong-born waitress and mother of three whom ICE seized during what she believed was a routine document renewal appointment in late April, triggering her rural Missouri community, largely supportive of Trump, to rally with petitions, fundraisers and public protests that ultimately led to her release in early June.

These displays of force and excess help explain why the American public, which broadly approved of Trump’s tough stance on immigration during the 2024 election, is shifting the other way. A recent CNN poll shows 55 percent think Trump has gone too far in his pursuit of undocumented immigrants, up 10 percent since February. And as raids ramp up across the country, the gap between Trump’s rhetoric about rounding up “terrorists” and “gang members” and the reality of deporting normal, everyday people who are upstanding members of their communities will only grow starker.
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As unprecedented as all this might seem, we’ve been here before — and there is a warning in it for the president. In the 1850s, the federal government enforced a brutal dragnet aimed at hunting down and returning “fugitive slaves” — formerly enslaved persons who had escaped captivity and fled north. Authorized by the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850, a combination of federal officials and private slave catchers compelled Northern white citizens to cooperate with the arrest of formerly enslaved people, or else risk arrest themselves. The law introduced the brutality of slavery into free Northern communities. The use of armed soldiers in civilian settings, the arrest of free Black people — similar to today’s indiscriminate arrests, which have ensnared immigrants with legally protected status — and the erosion of political liberties long enjoyed by free citizens all presaged the current environment.

The political response proved explosive. Seemingly overnight, white people who previously cared little for the plight of Black Americans, free or enslaved, became committed antislavery voters. Some of them were arrested for supporting formerly enslaved fugitives, contributing the backlash against the FSA among white citizens. Communities rallied to the defense of accused runaways, often helping them escape the federal snare. Northern states found themselves in a tense standoff with the government in Washington, D.C. And most ominously, a vocal but committed core came to believe that the only means to confront state violence and coercion was to meet that threat with violence in turn.

The warning for Republicans is clear: As Trump’s anti-immigrant raids become increasingly militarized, dramatic and disruptive to everyday life, MAGA could lose its supposed mandate to crack down on immigration. Republicans may suffer for it in 2026, if their newfound strength in Latino and Asian communities erodes, and if swing-district voters recoil at the chaos these raids are already visiting on their communities. Worse, it could further enflame an already dangerous political environment — and even turn deadly, as it did in the past.
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Jul 29, 2025 11:01 am ICE Risks Overplaying Its Hand. We’ve Seen It Happen Before.
Militarized federal encroachments on public life provoke strong, even violent responses — even among those who agree with their aims.
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We’ve already seen signs of what’s to come. Like when, according to eyewitness accounts, around 30 heavily armed ICE agents raided Buona Forchetta, a family-owned Italian restaurant in San Diego’s South Park, handcuffing four immigrant workers and using flash‑bang grenades against civilians. Or the scene in Los Angeles earlier this summer, where the administration deployed guardsmen and active-duty military and ICE arrested over 1,600 persons, including workers at car washes and farms — even people making lawful appearances in immigration court. Or the case of Carol Mayorga, a Hong Kong-born waitress and mother of three whom ICE seized during what she believed was a routine document renewal appointment in late April, triggering her rural Missouri community, largely supportive of Trump, to rally with petitions, fundraisers and public protests that ultimately led to her release in early June.

These displays of force and excess help explain why the American public, which broadly approved of Trump’s tough stance on immigration during the 2024 election, is shifting the other way. A recent CNN poll shows 55 percent think Trump has gone too far in his pursuit of undocumented immigrants, up 10 percent since February. And as raids ramp up across the country, the gap between Trump’s rhetoric about rounding up “terrorists” and “gang members” and the reality of deporting normal, everyday people who are upstanding members of their communities will only grow starker.
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As unprecedented as all this might seem, we’ve been here before — and there is a warning in it for the president. In the 1850s, the federal government enforced a brutal dragnet aimed at hunting down and returning “fugitive slaves” — formerly enslaved persons who had escaped captivity and fled north. Authorized by the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850, a combination of federal officials and private slave catchers compelled Northern white citizens to cooperate with the arrest of formerly enslaved people, or else risk arrest themselves. The law introduced the brutality of slavery into free Northern communities. The use of armed soldiers in civilian settings, the arrest of free Black people — similar to today’s indiscriminate arrests, which have ensnared immigrants with legally protected status — and the erosion of political liberties long enjoyed by free citizens all presaged the current environment.

The political response proved explosive. Seemingly overnight, white people who previously cared little for the plight of Black Americans, free or enslaved, became committed antislavery voters. Some of them were arrested for supporting formerly enslaved fugitives, contributing the backlash against the FSA among white citizens. Communities rallied to the defense of accused runaways, often helping them escape the federal snare. Northern states found themselves in a tense standoff with the government in Washington, D.C. And most ominously, a vocal but committed core came to believe that the only means to confront state violence and coercion was to meet that threat with violence in turn.

The warning for Republicans is clear: As Trump’s anti-immigrant raids become increasingly militarized, dramatic and disruptive to everyday life, MAGA could lose its supposed mandate to crack down on immigration. Republicans may suffer for it in 2026, if their newfound strength in Latino and Asian communities erodes, and if swing-district voters recoil at the chaos these raids are already visiting on their communities. Worse, it could further enflame an already dangerous political environment — and even turn deadly, as it did in the past.
Lol I stopped at the you can immediately tell it’s a leftist leftist reporter(s) with catch phrases of ‘undocumented‘ (there’s no such thing) and ‘anti-immigrant‘ (it’s anti illegal immigrant).

Trump and Holman aren‘t backing down. :nod:
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kalm wrote: Tue Jul 29, 2025 6:00 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jul 29, 2025 4:46 am

Huh

I said backbreaking labor motivated me to do better

Thank you Mr. Robert for motivating me to get off your watermelon plantation
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:07 pm
Lol I stopped at the you can immediately tell it’s a leftist leftist reporter(s) with catch phrases of ‘undocumented‘ (there’s no such thing) and ‘anti-immigrant‘ (it’s anti illegal immigrant).

Trump and Holman aren‘t backing down. :nod:
And the no good idea Democrats only make Trumps deportations a sure thing

They are too fucking stupid and proud of themselves to realize they need to work with Trump to some degree on deportations
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:07 pm
Lol I stopped at the you can immediately tell it’s a leftist leftist reporter(s) with catch phrases of ‘undocumented‘ (there’s no such thing) and ‘anti-immigrant‘ (it’s anti illegal immigrant).

Trump and Holman aren‘t backing down. :nod:
Doesn't make the potential for a voter backlash any less real.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jul 30, 2025 7:25 am
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:07 pm
Lol I stopped at the you can immediately tell it’s a leftist leftist reporter(s) with catch phrases of ‘undocumented‘ (there’s no such thing) and ‘anti-immigrant‘ (it’s anti illegal immigrant).

Trump and Holman aren‘t backing down. :nod:
Doesn't make the potential for a voter backlash any less real.
Backlash doesn’t mean they’re gonna be voting for any Democrat
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