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UNI88 wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:06 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 2:44 pm

I just saw an opportunity when the media wouldn’t do their job….

And still waiting for anybody to post any ideas Democrats actually have that might help the country
Obstructing trump's power grab is an excellent idea. :D
Que? So cheating in the 2020 election to beat Trump was the best idea Dems ever had??

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:45 am
UNI88 wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:06 pm

Obstructing trump's power grab is an excellent idea. :D
Que? So cheating in the 2020 election to beat Trump was the best idea Dems ever had??

:lol:
No one cheated in 2020.

Empowering and appointing consumer minded administrators to the CFPB and FTC helped the country.
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kalm wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 7:47 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:45 am

Que? So cheating in the 2020 election to beat Trump was the best idea Dems ever had??

:lol:
No one cheated in 2020.

Empowering and appointing consumer minded administrators to the CFPB and FTC helped the country.
No one cheated?

Wrong

I’m still waiting on any ideas the Dems have put forward ?

Or I could just tell you myself…. None
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 8:16 am
kalm wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 7:47 am
No one cheated in 2020.

Empowering and appointing consumer minded administrators to the CFPB and FTC helped the country.
No one cheated?

Wrong

I’m still waiting on any ideas the Dems have put forward ?

Or I could just tell you myself…. None
You are correct, there was probably some cheating in 2020. There was also some cheating in 2016 and 2024. Did the left storm the US Capitol and attempt to assassinate the Vice President, Speaker of the House and others after those elections were "stolen"?

Obstructing trump's 2025 power grab is a good idea.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 9:22 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 8:16 am

No one cheated?

Wrong

I’m still waiting on any ideas the Dems have put forward ?

Or I could just tell you myself…. None
You are correct, there was probably some cheating in 2020. There was also some cheating in 2016 and 2024. Did the left storm the US Capitol and attempt to assassinate the Vice President, Speaker of the House and others after those elections were "stolen"?

Obstructing trump's 2025 power grab is a good idea.
Progress

Last year you were saying there was no cheating

We’re also waiting for you to explain just how they were going to assassinate anyone…they didn’t have guns

big lie from you
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:03 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 9:22 am

You are correct, there was probably some cheating in 2020. There was also some cheating in 2016 and 2024. Did the left storm the US Capitol and attempt to assassinate the Vice President, Speaker of the House and others after those elections were "stolen"?

Obstructing trump's 2025 power grab is a good idea.
Progress

Last year you were saying there was no cheating

We’re also waiting for you to explain just how they were going to assassinate anyone…they didn’t have guns

big lie from you
No, I wasn't. I've been consistent in saying there is some hinky stuff in every election. I've also been consistent in saying that the hinky stuff in 2020 was no worse than in 2016 or 2020 and wasn't enough to sway the election. The whole 2020 election was stolen FAKE NEWS story was started by a loser who couldn't admit he got beat.

They built a gallows and said they wanted to hang Mike Pence. That's much more of a threat of assassination then calling trump a Nazi/Hitler. Stop being a hypocrite and try to be consistent - you can't argue that words matter if trump feels threatened but not his opponents.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:21 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:03 am

Progress

Last year you were saying there was no cheating

We’re also waiting for you to explain just how they were going to assassinate anyone…they didn’t have guns

big lie from you
No, I wasn't. I've been consistent in saying there is some hinky stuff in every election. I've also been consistent in saying that the hinky stuff in 2020 was no worse than in 2016 or 2020 and wasn't enough to sway the election. The whole 2020 election was stolen FAKE NEWS story was started by a loser who couldn't admit he got beat.

They built a gallows and said they wanted to hang Mike Pence. That's much more of a threat of assassination then calling trump a Nazi/Hitler. Stop being a hypocrite and try to be consistent - you can't argue that words matter if trump feels threatened but not his opponents.
Until you rid yourself of your infection you won’t be able to see the truth … everything with you is Trump…
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Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm

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UNI88 wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:21 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:03 am

Progress

Last year you were saying there was no cheating

We’re also waiting for you to explain just how they were going to assassinate anyone…they didn’t have guns

big lie from you
No, I wasn't. I've been consistent in saying there is some hinky stuff in every election. I've also been consistent in saying that the hinky stuff in 2020 was no worse than in 2016 or 2020 and wasn't enough to sway the election. The whole 2020 election was stolen FAKE NEWS story was started by a loser who couldn't admit he got beat.

They built a gallows and said they wanted to hang Mike Pence. That's much more of a threat of assassination then calling trump a Nazi/Hitler. Stop being a hypocrite and try to be consistent - you can't argue that words matter if trump feels threatened but not his opponents.
My bad. I thought “some cheating” was assumed as happening every election. 2020 was no different and never sniffed the level of “stolen election”.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:50 pm
The fragile ego of a hopeful dictator.

Late night TV was dying anyway, but big tech monopolies cozying up to Trump and obeying his wishes is a bigger problem. They can also deny their platform to opposing viewpoints.
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kalm wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 5:37 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:50 pm
The fragile ego of a hopeful dictator.

Late night TV was dying anyway, but big tech monopolies cozying up to Trump and obeying his wishes is a bigger problem. They can also deny their platform to opposing viewpoints.
It's a problem but I think liberals and other trump opponents can and will turn to podcasts, social media and other alternatives just like MAQA yahoos have. We'll have to become china for trump to shut off people's access to dissenting views.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 5:44 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 5:37 pm

The fragile ego of a hopeful dictator.

Late night TV was dying anyway, but big tech monopolies cozying up to Trump and obeying his wishes is a bigger problem. They can also deny their platform to opposing viewpoints.
It's a problem but I think liberals and other trump opponents can and will turn to podcasts, social media and other alternatives just like MAQA yahoos have. We'll have to become china for trump to shut off people's access to dissenting views.
Hopefully so but it will require a huge investment to compete with YouTube or a Twitter for exposure. It’s the Orban/Putin playbook as well.
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kalm wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 5:37 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:50 pm
The fragile ego of a hopeful dictator.

Late night TV was dying anyway, but big tech monopolies cozying up to Trump and obeying his wishes is a bigger problem. They can also deny their platform to opposing viewpoints.
I'm old enough to remember when Trump had his social media shut down.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 6:23 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 5:37 pm

The fragile ego of a hopeful dictator.

Late night TV was dying anyway, but big tech monopolies cozying up to Trump and obeying his wishes is a bigger problem. They can also deny their platform to opposing viewpoints.
I'm old enough to remember when Trump had his social media shut down.
If you don’t know the difference between the two, I truly feel sorry for you.
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Interesting take..

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kalm wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 6:49 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 6:23 pm

I'm old enough to remember when Trump had his social media shut down.
If you don’t know the difference between the two, I truly feel sorry for you.
:lol: Trump was not responsible for J6. Interesting dichotomy you have going on though. Cancelling Trump ok. Cancelling Kimmel not okay.

With that being said, I don't think Kimmel should have been cancelled, but he did outright lie.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 6:55 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 6:49 pm
If you don’t know the difference between the two, I truly feel sorry for you.
:lol: Trump was not responsible for J6. Interesting dichotomy you have going on though. Cancelling Trump ok. Cancelling Kimmel not okay.

With that being said, I don't think Kimmel should have been cancelled, but he did outright lie.
:rofl:

If outright lying were reason to cancel then hannity and ingraham would also be off the air.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 6:55 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 6:49 pm

If you don’t know the difference between the two, I truly feel sorry for you.
:lol: Trump was not responsible for J6. Interesting dichotomy you have going on though. Cancelling Trump ok. Cancelling Kimmel not okay.

With that being said, I don't think Kimmel should have been cancelled, but he did outright lie.
Still doesn’t get it. Sad
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But, but, but…they called our guy a fascist.

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:45 am
UNI88 wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:06 pm

Obstructing trump's power grab is an excellent idea. :D
Que? So cheating in the 2020 election to beat Trump was the best idea Dems ever had??

:lol:
I’d love to see the proof. We’ve been hearing this for 5 years now, the Right claims to have evidence but they never materialized. Maybe the just have concepts of evidence…
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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 6:55 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 6:49 pm

If you don’t know the difference between the two, I truly feel sorry for you.
:lol: Trump was not responsible for J6. Interesting dichotomy you have going on though. Cancelling Trump ok. Cancelling Kimmel not okay.

With that being said, I don't think Kimmel should have been cancelled, but he did outright lie.
Yes he was. His rhetoric and denial fueled those morons into taking action.

If lying got you canceled, then Fox would’ve been off the air long ago. Same with CNN
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I see Trump is now ordering NBC to fire Fallon and Meyers. Regardless if you think they’re funny or whatever we have a POTUS silencing people. What a sad fucking day.
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Ibanez wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 9:36 am I see Trump is now ordering NBC to fire Fallon and Meyers. Regardless if you think they’re funny or whatever we have a POTUS silencing people. What a sad fucking day.
:nod:

It’s what authoritarian regimes do. I’m guessing YouTube is throttling anti-Trump accounts/posted clips as well. Is there one new or old media conglomerate who’s refused to kiss the ring? Are there any free speech advocates remaining in the GOP?
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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 9:41 am
Ibanez wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 9:36 am I see Trump is now ordering NBC to fire Fallon and Meyers. Regardless if you think they’re funny or whatever we have a POTUS silencing people. What a sad fucking day.
:nod:

It’s what authoritarian regimes do. I’m guessing YouTube is throttling anti-Trump accounts/posted clips as well. Is there one new or old media conglomerate who’s refused to kiss the ring? Are there any free speech advocates remaining in the GOP?
Yes…but not many. Charlie was a free speech advocate.

You know it’s a crazy word when the L is agreeing with Tucker.
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