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citdog wrote:
Wedgebuster wrote:Yet he kicked the **** out of McCain.

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only because of the STUPIDITY of people like you!!!
mudpuppy, nobody in Wyoming ever has influence on presidential elections because of the electoral vote, and besides this state carried McCain at the highest percentage of all states last fall. I look around me and I see a few wealthy oil barons, a few wealthy business owners, and a whole bucking funch of under educated but well meaning ignorant simpletons who speak just as you post. I would venture to guess you are much like them sans the part about being "well meaning." 8-)

For a hollow headed southern bigoted taint zit like you to refer to people of superior intellect and higher moral standards such as myself as stupid, or stupidity is just predictable.

It still cracks me up though, and that is why I tend to want to embrace your defective soul rather than to search it out and put it out of it's misery, once and for all. :nod:

So, keep up the great work, I guess. :roll:
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Re: Hussein 9-11 Obama

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Can we cut to the chase regarding 9-11 and why we haven't had any attacks since then...........WE PUT GODDAMN LOCKS ON THE COCKPIT DOORS!!!

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mainejeff wrote:Can we cut to the chase regarding 9-11 and why we haven't had any attacks since then...........WE PUT GODDAMN LOCKS ON THE COCKPIT DOORS!!!

:coffee:
And liquids restrictions, and nail file restrictions, etc. And maybe, just maybe a new mentality that personal safety sometimes comes down to the person themselves. Having hundreds of potential victims cower in the back of an airliner because a couple greasy thugs with box cutters are telling them to do so is plain dumb.
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Wedgebuster wrote:
mainejeff wrote:Can we cut to the chase regarding 9-11 and why we haven't had any attacks since then...........WE PUT GODDAMN LOCKS ON THE COCKPIT DOORS!!!

:coffee:
And liquids restrictions, and nail file restrictions, etc. And maybe, just maybe a new mentality that personal safety sometimes comes down to the person themselves. Having hundreds of potential victims cower in the back of an airliner because a couple greasy thugs with box cutters are telling them to do so is plain dumb.

Well I don't know if I'd call it dumb. I think it was a situation no one ever really thought they would find themselves in and because of that they froze. Ever since then everyone who gets on a plane has thought about what they would do if they found themselves in a similar situation. At least I know that I've run it through my head 100 times.
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Re: Hussein 9-11 Obama

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danefan wrote:
Wedgebuster wrote:
And liquids restrictions, and nail file restrictions, etc. And maybe, just maybe a new mentality that personal safety sometimes comes down to the person themselves. Having hundreds of potential victims cower in the back of an airliner because a couple greasy thugs with box cutters are telling them to do so is plain dumb.

Well I don't know if I'd call it dumb. I think it was a situation no one ever really thought they would find themselves in and because of that they froze. Ever since then everyone who gets on a plane has thought about what they would do if they found themselves in a similar situation. At least I know that I've run it through my head 100 times.
Personal responsibility. Waiting for the police to save you is certain tragedy, and yes we have been raised to be dependent, passive, and wimpy. This is what the hijackers counted on to make their plan work, it is up to all of us to refuse to become victims, especially when being threatened by a few. The folks who perished in the Pennsylvania crash have set an example for all, either die fighting or survive. To just roll over and surrender is so un-American.
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danefan wrote:
Wedgebuster wrote:
And liquids restrictions, and nail file restrictions, etc. And maybe, just maybe a new mentality that personal safety sometimes comes down to the person themselves. Having hundreds of potential victims cower in the back of an airliner because a couple greasy thugs with box cutters are telling them to do so is plain dumb.

Well I don't know if I'd call it dumb. I think it was a situation no one ever really thought they would find themselves in and because of that they froze. Ever since then everyone who gets on a plane has thought about what they would do if they found themselves in a similar situation. At least I know that I've run it through my head 100 times.
Prior to 9/11, most hijackers wanted to fly to some other destination and negotiate for something. Cowering in the back of the plane was the advisable thing to do. 9/11 changed that. Potential hijackers are going to need more than box cutters to take a plane that I'm flying on.
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LOCKS ON THE COCKPIT DOORS.

If hijackers can't access the cockpit......they are not bringing the plane down no matter what happens to individual passengers. Yes, they can use bombs......but as far as I know, none were used during the 9-11 attacks.
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mainejeff wrote:LOCKS ON THE COCKPIT DOORS.

If hijackers can't access the cockpit......they are not bringing the plane down no matter what happens to individual passengers. Yes, they can use bombs......but as far as I know, none were used during the 9-11 attacks.
Locks on cockpit doors may be a good way to prevent the specific type of attack that took place 8 years ago, but I don't think you can argue that locks on cockpit doors were the only thing needed to prevent all possible attacks. It's not that easy.
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BlueHen86 wrote:
mainejeff wrote:LOCKS ON THE COCKPIT DOORS.

If hijackers can't access the cockpit......they are not bringing the plane down no matter what happens to individual passengers. Yes, they can use bombs......but as far as I know, none were used during the 9-11 attacks.
Locks on cockpit doors may be a good way to prevent the specific type of attack that took place 8 years ago, but I don't think you can argue that locks on cockpit doors were the only thing needed to prevent all possible attacks. It's not that easy.
It WAS that easy on 9/11/2001.......period. The truth hurts.
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Re: Hussein 9-11 Obama

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mainejeff wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:
Locks on cockpit doors may be a good way to prevent the specific type of attack that took place 8 years ago, but I don't think you can argue that locks on cockpit doors were the only thing needed to prevent all possible attacks. It's not that easy.
It WAS that easy on 9/11/2001.......period. The truth hurts.
I love your hindsight ability. You're so fucking brilliant. If only the rest of had your uncanny ability to look back at things and see what would have prevented them.

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Wedgebuster wrote:
danefan wrote:

Well I don't know if I'd call it dumb. I think it was a situation no one ever really thought they would find themselves in and because of that they froze. Ever since then everyone who gets on a plane has thought about what they would do if they found themselves in a similar situation. At least I know that I've run it through my head 100 times.
Personal responsibility. Waiting for the police to save you is certain tragedy, and yes we have been raised to be dependent, passive, and wimpy. This is what the hijackers counted on to make their plan work, it is up to all of us to refuse to become victims, especially when being threatened by a few. The folks who perished in the Pennsylvania crash have set an example for all, either die fighting or survive. To just roll over and surrender is so un-American.
Wedgie, this sounds a little libertarian. You know you're really just a truly compassionate conservative. :D
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mainejeff wrote:Can we cut to the chase regarding 9-11 and why we haven't had any attacks since then...........WE PUT GODDAMN LOCKS ON THE COCKPIT DOORS!!!

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This is the dumbest thing I have ever read on a message board and that is really saying something.
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mainejeff wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:
Locks on cockpit doors may be a good way to prevent the specific type of attack that took place 8 years ago, but I don't think you can argue that locks on cockpit doors were the only thing needed to prevent all possible attacks. It's not that easy.
It WAS that easy on 9/11/2001.......period. The truth hurts.
True, and we have since corrected that. But we have also done other things to prevent more attacks. If you think the only needed solution was locks on cockpit doors you are a dunce......period. The truth hurts.
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Wedgebuster wrote:
citdog wrote:

only because of the STUPIDITY of people like you!!!
mudpuppy, nobody in Wyoming ever has influence on presidential elections because of the electoral vote, and besides this state carried McCain at the highest percentage of all states last fall. I look around me and I see a few wealthy oil barons, a few wealthy business owners, and a whole bucking funch of under educated but well meaning ignorant simpletons who speak just as you post. I would venture to guess you are much like them sans the part about being "well meaning." 8-)

For a hollow headed southern bigoted taint zit like you to refer to people of superior intellect and higher moral standards such as myself as stupid, or stupidity is just predictable.

It still cracks me up though, and that is why I tend to want to embrace your defective soul rather than to search it out and put it out of it's misery, once and for all. :nod:

So, keep up the great work, I guess. :roll:
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
It WAS that easy on 9/11/2001.......period. The truth hurts.
I love your hindsight ability. You're so **** brilliant. If only the rest of had your uncanny ability to look back at things and see what would have prevented them.

Nostradumbass strikes again.
Why can't you just admit the simple truth a-hole? Hindsight or not.......if the COCKPIT DOORS HAD LOCKS, NONE OF THOSE PLANES WOULD HAVE GONE DOWN THAT DAY.
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
mainejeff wrote:Can we cut to the chase regarding 9-11 and why we haven't had any attacks since then...........WE PUT GODDAMN LOCKS ON THE COCKPIT DOORS!!!

:coffee:
This is the dumbest thing I have ever read on a message board and that is really saying something.
The REALLY dumb thing is that we spend trillions on wars, more government agencies, new Homeland Security headquarters, etc. to prevent another 9-11. How much did those cockpit door locks cost again?
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BlueHen86 wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
It WAS that easy on 9/11/2001.......period. The truth hurts.
True, and we have since corrected that. But we have also done other things to prevent more attacks. If you think the only needed solution was locks on cockpit doors you are a dunce......period. The truth hurts.
Of course we had to improve security after that (duh!)........but we overreacted in so many other ways and will pay for it as long as this country exists. So f-off a-hole. :nod:
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mainejeff wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: I love your hindsight ability. You're so **** brilliant. If only the rest of had your uncanny ability to look back at things and see what would have prevented them.

Nostradumbass strikes again.
Why can't you just admit the simple truth a-hole? Hindsight or not.......if the COCKPIT DOORS HAD LOCKS, NONE OF THOSE PLANES WOULD HAVE GONE DOWN THAT DAY.
Look you dumb mother fucker, I pointed out that WE ALL KNOW THAT. You ain't pointing out nothing new shitdick. As I said last time your ability to see into the past is amazing. Nice work Kreskin. :thumb:
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mainejeff wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:
True, and we have since corrected that. But we have also done other things to prevent more attacks. If you think the only needed solution was locks on cockpit doors you are a dunce......period. The truth hurts.
Of course we had to improve security after that (duh!)........but we overreacted in so many other ways and will pay for it as long as this country exists. So f-off a-hole. :nod:
I don't disagree that we overreacted, but you're talking as if everything other than locks on the cock pit doors was excessive, and that is definitely not the case.

Sorry for being an a-hole MJ, I try not to be. But you aren't exactly conducting an intellegent argument on this issue.
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
Why can't you just admit the simple truth a-hole? Hindsight or not.......if the COCKPIT DOORS HAD LOCKS, NONE OF THOSE PLANES WOULD HAVE GONE DOWN THAT DAY.
Look you dumb mother ****, I pointed out that WE ALL KNOW THAT. You ain't pointing out nothing new shitdick. As I said last time your ability to see into the past is amazing. Nice work Kreskin. :thumb:
Boy, aren't you the man......... :roll:

I could care less what you think.

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mainejeff wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: Look you dumb mother ****, I pointed out that WE ALL KNOW THAT. You ain't pointing out nothing new shitdick. As I said last time your ability to see into the past is amazing. Nice work Kreskin. :thumb:
Listen mothaf*cka.......I could care less what you think.
Which is why you took the time to read his post on a message board and then respond to it. :rofl:
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mainejeff wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: I love your hindsight ability. You're so **** brilliant. If only the rest of had your uncanny ability to look back at things and see what would have prevented them.

Nostradumbass strikes again.
Why can't you just admit the simple truth a-hole? Hindsight or not.......if the COCKPIT DOORS HAD LOCKS, NONE OF THOSE PLANES WOULD HAVE GONE DOWN THAT DAY.
Locks on the doors would have done nothing and continue to do nothing to prevent what we saw 8 years ago. A person hell bent on taking over a plane will have to nothing more than start killing hostages until he had access to the cockpit. A few innocents die and a pilot will open the door to prevent the next from dying. No pilot wants that blood on his/her hands. The pilots would expect that the plane would be diverted to a place they could land and negotiate for the release of the hostages in exchange for political prisoners.

Let that senerio play out and now what? The terrorists have control of the plane and everyone is still going to die. Door locks have done nothing and continue to execute that worthless roll.
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BlueHen86 wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
Listen mothaf*cka.......I could care less what you think.
Which is why you took the time to read his post on a message board and then respond to it. :rofl:
Wow........are you hanging on my every word or what???......... :roll:
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bobbythekidd wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
Why can't you just admit the simple truth a-hole? Hindsight or not.......if the COCKPIT DOORS HAD LOCKS, NONE OF THOSE PLANES WOULD HAVE GONE DOWN THAT DAY.
Locks on the doors would have done nothing and continue to do nothing to prevent what we saw 8 years ago. A person hell bent on taking over a plane will have to nothing more than start killing hostages until he had access to the cockpit. A few innocents die and a pilot will open the door to prevent the next from dying. No pilot wants that blood on his/her hands. The pilots would expect that the plane would be diverted to a place they could land and negotiate for the release of the hostages in exchange for political prisoners.

Let that senerio play out and now what? The terrorists have control of the plane and everyone is still going to die. Door locks have done nothing and continue to execute that worthless roll.
OK........you guys win. It would not have made a difference if there were locks on the cockpit doors on 9-11.

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