Trump 2.0: MAGAA

[UNI88]

Then prove the article/opinion piece wrong rather than dismissing it because of the source.

Tell Jose Hermosillo and Leo Garcia Venegas that they wouldn't target citizens/legal immigrants. Should we add in Debbie Brockman, the Reverend David Black, or Quinn Haberl?

I live in Portland and I used to live in Chicago so I know that they're terrorizing patriots in both cities simply for standing up and protesting against what they're doing. They want to squash all resistance, the Constitution be damned.

Who? They aren‘t in the Bucks Co Beacon article.

You said it's my opinion that they're terrorizing brown people regardless of status including legal immigrants and citizens. Those are names of citizens that have been terrorized.

[kalm]

But is Trump smart enough to take W?

Trump has already begun catastrophizing this expected outcome, predicting that if the Court strikes down his tariffs, “our economy will go to hell.” In reality: If the justices decide to undermine Trump’s economic agenda, they’ll be doing him a favor.

Fewer businesses would be wasting their time on pointless, tariff-minimizing bullshit, like scheduling and rescheduling shipments. Plus, a sudden tax cut worth hundreds of billions of dollars—in the form of refunds for those tariffs already paid—could trigger the long-awaited boom Trump has been promising. The only real question is whether he’d be smart enough to accept it.

Navigating Trump’s ever-changing tariffs has made it hard for companies to make decisions and plan for the future. The tariffs are also a huge distraction from actual economic activity. Normally, businesses should be spending their time developing products, finding new customers, improving their operations, that sort of thing. Instead, they’re spending their time gaming out how to minimize their tariff burden.

“We have ordered and canceled and uncanceled and recanceled so many different times as the tariff rates went up and down and again,” Mac Harman, CEO of Balsam Hill, told me. Harman’s company sells pre-lit artificial Christmas trees, products that are just not economically feasible to make in the United States. He estimates he now spends about half his time optimizing around tariffs, which is both an economic and emotional drain. “I feel like I really can’t go more than six hours without following the news.”

In 2024, Harman says, his company paid $1 million in tariffs. This year’s tariff bill, by contrast, will be about $15 million. Which is painful enough. Even worse when you consider that it took an enormous effort to keep that tally from reaching $117 million, the maximum he says his company would have owed if it had mistimed its factory orders.

In addition to scheduling and rescheduling factory orders and shipment dates to adapt to the ever-changing Trump tariff rates, Balsam Hill has also had to line up more warehouses and trucks—and optimize when to move what where. It’s been a wasteful, goods-moving dance, what Harman calls the “Hokey-Pokey.” And even the Hokey-Pokey couldn’t fully mitigate the damage; this year the company also had its first layoff in its twenty years of existence, even as its markets are growing.

I’ve talked to a lot of CEOs like Harman in recent months. Pretty much everyone, even those sympathetic to Trump’s apparent trade aims (Harman, who started in the steel industry, counts himself in that camp), say they’d prefer lower tariffs. But if that’s not possible, they’d at least like some certainty about what the tariffs are. That would free them up to make informed decisions and invest with greater clarity over the medium- and long-term horizon. Instead, a company’s main profit center is now the guy tasked with monitoring the president’s Truth Social account. And that’s never a good sign.

https://x.com/bulwarkonline/status/1986 ... LLEdWL4H3w

[GannonFan]

But is Trump smart enough to take W?

Trump has already begun catastrophizing this expected outcome, predicting that if the Court strikes down his tariffs, “our economy will go to hell.” In reality: If the justices decide to undermine Trump’s economic agenda, they’ll be doing him a favor.

Fewer businesses would be wasting their time on pointless, tariff-minimizing bullshit, like scheduling and rescheduling shipments. Plus, a sudden tax cut worth hundreds of billions of dollars—in the form of refunds for those tariffs already paid—could trigger the long-awaited boom Trump has been promising. The only real question is whether he’d be smart enough to accept it.

Navigating Trump’s ever-changing tariffs has made it hard for companies to make decisions and plan for the future. The tariffs are also a huge distraction from actual economic activity. Normally, businesses should be spending their time developing products, finding new customers, improving their operations, that sort of thing. Instead, they’re spending their time gaming out how to minimize their tariff burden.

“We have ordered and canceled and uncanceled and recanceled so many different times as the tariff rates went up and down and again,” Mac Harman, CEO of Balsam Hill, told me. Harman’s company sells pre-lit artificial Christmas trees, products that are just not economically feasible to make in the United States. He estimates he now spends about half his time optimizing around tariffs, which is both an economic and emotional drain. “I feel like I really can’t go more than six hours without following the news.”

In 2024, Harman says, his company paid $1 million in tariffs. This year’s tariff bill, by contrast, will be about $15 million. Which is painful enough. Even worse when you consider that it took an enormous effort to keep that tally from reaching $117 million, the maximum he says his company would have owed if it had mistimed its factory orders.

In addition to scheduling and rescheduling factory orders and shipment dates to adapt to the ever-changing Trump tariff rates, Balsam Hill has also had to line up more warehouses and trucks—and optimize when to move what where. It’s been a wasteful, goods-moving dance, what Harman calls the “Hokey-Pokey.” And even the Hokey-Pokey couldn’t fully mitigate the damage; this year the company also had its first layoff in its twenty years of existence, even as its markets are growing.

I’ve talked to a lot of CEOs like Harman in recent months. Pretty much everyone, even those sympathetic to Trump’s apparent trade aims (Harman, who started in the steel industry, counts himself in that camp), say they’d prefer lower tariffs. But if that’s not possible, they’d at least like some certainty about what the tariffs are. That would free them up to make informed decisions and invest with greater clarity over the medium- and long-term horizon. Instead, a company’s main profit center is now the guy tasked with monitoring the president’s Truth Social account. And that’s never a good sign.

https://x.com/bulwarkonline/status/1986 ... LLEdWL4H3w

I doubt anything when you mention Trump and intelligence. But yes, someone nears him needs to recognize that the tariff system approach they adopted is an absolute failure of an economic plan. Maybe it's not as bad as Biden's government spending blowout and the crazy inflation that followed, but it's not a good one either. There's no way the SCOTUS rules in his favor - heck, there's even a chance that it could be a 9-0 rout (more likely a 7-2, with a 6-3 at the best but still against him) - so they need to be planning on what things look like coming out of this. And yes, a nice little boom created from backing away from a terrible economic idea wouldn't be bad. Hopefully they hurry this decision through as business and manufacturing activity hasn't enjoyed this reign of tariffs.

[kalm]

But is Trump smart enough to take W?



https://x.com/bulwarkonline/status/1986 ... LLEdWL4H3w

I doubt anything when you mention Trump and intelligence. But yes, someone nears him needs to recognize that the tariff system approach they adopted is an absolute failure of an economic plan. Maybe it's not as bad as Biden's government spending blowout and the crazy inflation that followed, but it's not a good one either. There's no way the SCOTUS rules in his favor - heck, there's even a chance that it could be a 9-0 rout (more likely a 7-2, with a 6-3 at the best but still against him) - so they need to be planning on what things look like coming out of this. And yes, a nice little boom created from backing away from a terrible economic idea wouldn't be bad. Hopefully they hurry this decision through as business and manufacturing activity hasn't enjoyed this reign of tariffs.

I’m not a Biden fan either but you’re approaching CH levels of obsession inserting him into every post.

[kalm]

None of Trump’s appointees are serious, rational people. None of them. Zero.

Sandwich guy FTW!

[UNI88]

I doubt anything when you mention Trump and intelligence. But yes, someone nears him needs to recognize that the tariff system approach they adopted is an absolute failure of an economic plan. Maybe it's not as bad as Biden's government spending blowout and the crazy inflation that followed, but it's not a good one either. There's no way the SCOTUS rules in his favor - heck, there's even a chance that it could be a 9-0 rout (more likely a 7-2, with a 6-3 at the best but still against him) - so they need to be planning on what things look like coming out of this. And yes, a nice little boom created from backing away from a terrible economic idea wouldn't be bad. Hopefully they hurry this decision through as business and manufacturing activity hasn't enjoyed this reign of tariffs.

I’m not a Biden fan either but you’re approaching CH levels of obsession inserting him into every post.

No he's not. Ganny is right that biden's spending blowout was a disaster. I think trump's tariffs would have been significantly worse if allowed to stand but hopefully we'll never find out.

[GannonFan]

I’m not a Biden fan either but you’re approaching CH levels of obsession inserting him into every post.

No he's not. Ganny is right that biden's spending blowout was a disaster. I think trump's tariffs would have been significantly worse if allowed to stand but hopefully we'll never find out.

I'm pretty sure I can go through the last 20 posts I made and only a few would include Biden. I still include Biden in posts that deal with 1) Ukraine and 2) the economy. Pretty sure the war that started under Biden's administration in Ukraine is still going on, so it's a current topic. And pretty sure that we're still recovering economically from the runaway inflation let loose in Biden's administration. Heck, just the fact that we have Trump as President now can also be traced to the disaster that was the Biden Presidency, especially the disaster that running for a second term was. You could make a good argument that had Biden said two years in that he was bowing out and either not remaining President then or wouldn't seek re-election, that we'd have a different person in the White House right now. It's a wonder I don't include Biden in even more posts considering we still have 3+ years of stupid times under the Trump regime.

[kalm]

No he's not. Ganny is right that biden's spending blowout was a disaster. I think trump's tariffs would have been significantly worse if allowed to stand but hopefully we'll never find out.

I'm pretty sure I can go through the last 20 posts I made and only a few would include Biden. I still include Biden in posts that deal with 1) Ukraine and 2) the economy. Pretty sure the war that started under Biden's administration in Ukraine is still going on, so it's a current topic. And pretty sure that we're still recovering economically from the runaway inflation let loose in Biden's administration. Heck, just the fact that we have Trump as President now can also be traced to the disaster that was the Biden Presidency, especially the disaster that running for a second term was. You could make a good argument that had Biden said two years in that he was bowing out and either not remaining President then or wouldn't seek re-election, that we'd have a different person in the White House right now. It's a wonder I don't include Biden in even more posts considering we still have 3+ years of stupid times under the Trump regime.

So you think Biden’s economic issues are equivalent to Trump’s? Coming out of Covid I economies were killing it, inflation was coming down, stock market was hitting records, we averaged 186,000 jobs per month in 2024 (admittedly down from 2023 but compare to now) etc.

Meanwhile, inflation is heading back up, we had more layoffs than any year going back to 2003, etc.

The best you can say is working class wages are continuing to not keep through both presidencies thanks to oligarchical practices. But that would make you a leftist now, wouldn’t it?

[kalm]

On cue. lol.

[GannonFan]

I'm pretty sure I can go through the last 20 posts I made and only a few would include Biden. I still include Biden in posts that deal with 1) Ukraine and 2) the economy. Pretty sure the war that started under Biden's administration in Ukraine is still going on, so it's a current topic. And pretty sure that we're still recovering economically from the runaway inflation let loose in Biden's administration. Heck, just the fact that we have Trump as President now can also be traced to the disaster that was the Biden Presidency, especially the disaster that running for a second term was. You could make a good argument that had Biden said two years in that he was bowing out and either not remaining President then or wouldn't seek re-election, that we'd have a different person in the White House right now. It's a wonder I don't include Biden in even more posts considering we still have 3+ years of stupid times under the Trump regime.

So you think Biden’s economic issues are equivalent to Trump’s? Coming out of Covid I economies were killing it, inflation was coming down, stock market was hitting records, we averaged 186,000 jobs per month in 2024 (admittedly down from 2023 but compare to now) etc.

Meanwhile, inflation is heading back up, we had more layoffs than any year going back to 2003, etc.

The best you can say is working class wages are continuing to not keep through both presidencies thanks to oligarchical practices. But that would make you a leftist now, wouldn’t it?

I think they both sucked(sucks). We had a roaring economy coming out of COVID, no inflation concerns, and then, as documented here repeatedly, Trump increased government spending unnecessarily in his lame duck time, and the Biden doubled down on that stupidity multiple times as soon as he got into office. That caused inflation to spike significantly, even though we were told it wasn't real. The very worst thing economically a President could do Biden did - he let inflation get out of the barn. Even by the end of the Biden administration we still hadn't tamed inflation and by then interest rates were ballooning. Trump comes into an already economic mess and says, "I like what that kalmie guy on the CS boards has said, let's leverage access to our markets and make everyone pay tariffs to get into our markets - screw free trade, let's do the opposite". And shockingly, that doesn't seem to work very well, and at the same time it pisses off the rest of the world that just spent the last 50 years being lectured by the very same country screwing them now on how everyone needed to not institute protective tariffs.

Luckily, a lot of Trump's economic malfeasance hasn't taken root yet - businesses are certainly shuffling to account for these petulant tariffs (seriously, who could ever have thought these were a good idea?), but there is the glimmer of hope in the SCOTUS that all of this is soon to be deemed unlawful and maybe Trump will stomp away and try to mess up something else other than the economy. Biden's impact on the economy has been a fait accompli and we're still not recovered from it, nor will we for years to come as runaway inflation is persistent that way with its impact. Trump can still screw stuff up, because he's Trump, but hopefully this post-tariff strike down will be something not too stupid.

[Caribbean Hen]

I doubt anything when you mention Trump and intelligence. But yes, someone nears him needs to recognize that the tariff system approach they adopted is an absolute failure of an economic plan. Maybe it's not as bad as Biden's government spending blowout and the crazy inflation that followed, but it's not a good one either. There's no way the SCOTUS rules in his favor - heck, there's even a chance that it could be a 9-0 rout (more likely a 7-2, with a 6-3 at the best but still against him) - so they need to be planning on what things look like coming out of this. And yes, a nice little boom created from backing away from a terrible economic idea wouldn't be bad. Hopefully they hurry this decision through as business and manufacturing activity hasn't enjoyed this reign of tariffs.

I’m not a Biden fan either but you’re approaching CH levels of obsession inserting him into every post.

The bigger question is why wasn’t the media talking about Joey the Kalm Con

I had to do their job

GF has done a nice job summarizing about 500 of my posts

[kalm]

So you think Biden’s economic issues are equivalent to Trump’s? Coming out of Covid I economies were killing it, inflation was coming down, stock market was hitting records, we averaged 186,000 jobs per month in 2024 (admittedly down from 2023 but compare to now) etc.

Meanwhile, inflation is heading back up, we had more layoffs than any year going back to 2003, etc.

The best you can say is working class wages are continuing to not keep through both presidencies thanks to oligarchical practices. But that would make you a leftist now, wouldn’t it?

I think they both sucked(sucks). We had a roaring economy coming out of COVID, no inflation concerns, and then, as documented here repeatedly, Trump increased government spending unnecessarily in his lame duck time, and the Biden doubled down on that stupidity multiple times as soon as he got into office. That caused inflation to spike significantly, even though we were told it wasn't real. The very worst thing economically a President could do Biden did - he let inflation get out of the barn. Even by the end of the Biden administration we still hadn't tamed inflation and by then interest rates were ballooning. Trump comes into an already economic mess and says, "I like what that kalmie guy on the CS boards has said, let's leverage access to our markets and make everyone pay tariffs to get into our markets - screw free trade, let's do the opposite". And shockingly, that doesn't seem to work very well, and at the same time it pisses off the rest of the world that just spent the last 50 years being lectured by the very same country screwing them now on how everyone needed to not institute protective tariffs.

Luckily, a lot of Trump's economic malfeasance hasn't taken root yet - businesses are certainly shuffling to account for these petulant tariffs (seriously, who could ever have thought these were a good idea?), but there is the glimmer of hope in the SCOTUS that all of this is soon to be deemed unlawful and maybe Trump will stomp away and try to mess up something else other than the economy. Biden's impact on the economy has been a fait accompli and we're still not recovered from it, nor will we for years to come as runaway inflation is persistent that way with its impact. Trump can still screw stuff up, because he's Trump, but hopefully this post-tariff strike down will be something not too stupid.

So now we’re entering the soft science of economic theory. Like all such things, there are multiple factors and all sorts opinions, starting with your assertion that Covid was done by the end of Trump’s administration and a return back to normal was underway. You could make a case that the economy was never going to return to normal which supports both sides of this argument.

If you’d like to continue, I’ll try and brush up on it first.

[kalm]

I’m not a Biden fan either but you’re approaching CH levels of obsession inserting him into every post.

The bigger question is why wasn’t the media talking about Joey the Kalm Con

I had to do their job

GF has done a nice job summarizing about 500 of my posts

Quiet now…adults are talking.

[BDKJMU]

I'm pretty sure I can go through the last 20 posts I made and only a few would include Biden. I still include Biden in posts that deal with 1) Ukraine and 2) the economy. Pretty sure the war that started under Biden's administration in Ukraine is still going on, so it's a current topic. And pretty sure that we're still recovering economically from the runaway inflation let loose in Biden's administration. Heck, just the fact that we have Trump as President now can also be traced to the disaster that was the Biden Presidency, especially the disaster that running for a second term was. You could make a good argument that had Biden said two years in that he was bowing out and either not remaining President then or wouldn't seek re-election, that we'd have a different person in the White House right now. It's a wonder I don't include Biden in even more posts considering we still have 3+ years of stupid times under the Trump regime.

So you think Biden’s economic issues are equivalent to Trump’s? Coming out of Covid I economies were killing it, inflation was coming down, stock market was hitting records, we averaged 186,000 jobs per month in 2024 (admittedly down from 2023 but compare to now) etc.

Meanwhile, inflation is heading back up, we had more layoffs than any year going back to 2003, etc.

The best you can say is working class wages are continuing to not keep through both presidencies thanks to oligarchical practices. But that would make you a leftist now, wouldn’t it?

Nice revisionism. Coming out of Covid in 2021 inflation was sky high (thanks to Biden‘s profligate spending, the. interest rates were jacked sky high (to tame inflation),

Trump I
2017: 2.1%
2018: 1.9%
2019: 2.3%
2020: 1.4%
———
Avg 1.925% a year, 7.9% 4 year cumulative.

Biden
2021: 7.0%
2022: 6.5%
2023 3.4%
2024: 2.9%
———-
Avg 4.95% a year, 21.25% 4 year cumulative.
https://inflationdata.com/Inflation/Inf ... %20percent

CPI:
Jan 3.0% last month Biden
————-
Feb 2.8%
March 2.4%
April: 2.1%
May 2.4%
June: 2.7%
July: 2.7%
Aug: 2.9%
Sept: 3.0%
Oct: Available 11/13

[BDKJMU]

[Caribbean Hen]

[kalm]

So you think Biden’s economic issues are equivalent to Trump’s? Coming out of Covid I economies were killing it, inflation was coming down, stock market was hitting records, we averaged 186,000 jobs per month in 2024 (admittedly down from 2023 but compare to now) etc.

Meanwhile, inflation is heading back up, we had more layoffs than any year going back to 2003, etc.

The best you can say is working class wages are continuing to not keep through both presidencies thanks to oligarchical practices. But that would make you a leftist now, wouldn’t it?

Nice revisionism. Coming out of Covid in 2021 inflation was sky high (thanks to Biden‘s profligate spending, the. interest rates were jacked sky high (to tame inflation),

Trump I
2017: 2.1%
2018: 1.9%
2019: 2.3%
2020: 1.4%
———
Avg 1.925% a year, 7.9% 4 year cumulative.

Biden
2021: 7.0%
2022: 6.5%
2023 3.4%
2024: 2.9%
———-
Avg 4.95% a year, 21.25% 4 year cumulative.
https://inflationdata.com/Inflation/Inf ... %20percent

CPI:
Jan 3.0% last month Biden
————-
Feb 2.8%
March 2.4%
April: 2.1%
May 2.4%
June: 2.7%
July: 2.7%
Aug: 2.9%
Sept: 3.0%
Oct: Available 11/13

All economies struggled coming out of COVID. It’s not as if we could snap our fingers and reset back to 2017. The world rapidly changed forever and COVID was an inflection point. (See supply chains for one example) Comparing the two administrations economies (and/or including 2017-2019) is apples to oranges.

The world is once again changing except this time it’s directly due to circumstances and policies within our control. New trade alliances are being formed. Manufacturing is a commodity. Tariffs have muddied the entire world wide economy. Crypto is having an effect.

Righties tend to be in denial of the universality of change. Even when it’s they who are speeding it up. Similar to how they deny covid as a disrupting force.

[BDKJMU]

Nice revisionism. Coming out of Covid in 2021 inflation was sky high (thanks to Biden‘s profligate spending, the. interest rates were jacked sky high (to tame inflation),

Trump I
2017: 2.1%
2018: 1.9%
2019: 2.3%
2020: 1.4%
———
Avg 1.925% a year, 7.9% 4 year cumulative.

Biden
2021: 7.0%
2022: 6.5%
2023 3.4%
2024: 2.9%
———-
Avg 4.95% a year, 21.25% 4 year cumulative.
https://inflationdata.com/Inflation/Inf ... %20percent

CPI:
Jan 3.0% last month Biden
————-
Feb 2.8%
March 2.4%
April: 2.1%
May 2.4%
June: 2.7%
July: 2.7%
Aug: 2.9%
Sept: 3.0%
Oct: Available 11/13

All economies struggled coming out of COVID. It’s not as if we could snap our fingers and reset back to 2017. The world rapidly changed forever and COVID was an inflection point. (See supply chains for one example) Comparing the two administrations economies (and/or including 2017-2019) is apples to oranges.

The world is once again changing except this time it’s directly due to circumstances and policies within our control. New trade alliances are being formed. Manufacturing is a commodity. Tariffs have muddied the entire world wide economy. Crypto is having an effect.

Righties tend to be in denial of the universality of change. Even when it’s they who are speeding it up. Similar to how they deny covid as a disrupting force.

That’s because the ‘We got to do something‘ stupidity of politicians wasn‘t limited to the US.

Without Covid .9 trillion Covid relief bill 2 (Trump) and 1.9 Covid relief bill 3 (Biden) + another 4-5 trillion or so profligate spending under Biden (so called Infrastructure, inflation creation Act, Ukraine, etc, etc) from the Magic $$$ Trees in DC we wouldn‘t have had hardly any inflation. Newsflash:
-If you give most families of 4 four three rounds of 11.6k in $$$ (3.8k per adult, 2.5k per child) for doing nothing.
-Pay people extended enhanced unemployment for up to 1.5 years to sit on their ass.
You create inflation because
-Cause labor shortage’s.
-Increase labor costs.
-Too much $$$ chasing too few goods.
All of which increases inflation.
Then wait for a full year to start to increase interest rates to tamp down the inflation (while never turning off the $$$ spigots) you kill the housing market.

[BDKJMU]

[kalm]

All economies struggled coming out of COVID. It’s not as if we could snap our fingers and reset back to 2017. The world rapidly changed forever and COVID was an inflection point. (See supply chains for one example) Comparing the two administrations economies (and/or including 2017-2019) is apples to oranges.

The world is once again changing except this time it’s directly due to circumstances and policies within our control. New trade alliances are being formed. Manufacturing is a commodity. Tariffs have muddied the entire world wide economy. Crypto is having an effect.

Righties tend to be in denial of the universality of change. Even when it’s they who are speeding it up. Similar to how they deny covid as a disrupting force.

That’s because the ‘We got to do something‘ stupidity of politicians wasn‘t limited to the US.

Without Covid .9 trillion Covid relief bill 2 (Trump) and 1.9 Covid relief bill 3 (Biden) + another 4-5 trillion or so profligate spending under Biden (so called Infrastructure, inflation creation Act, Ukraine, etc, etc) from the Magic $$$ Trees in DC we wouldn‘t have had hardly any inflation. Newsflash:
-If you give most families of 4 four three rounds of 11.6k in $$$ (3.8k per adult, 2.5k per child) for doing nothing.
-Pay people extended enhanced unemployment for up to 1.5 years to sit on their ass.
You create inflation because
-Cause labor shortage’s.
-Increase labor costs.
-Too much $$$ chasing too few goods.
All of which increases inflation.
Then wait for a full year to start to increase interest rates to tamp down the inflation (while never turning off the $$$ spigots) you kill the housing market.

It’s how we got through WWII debt and inflation. Covid was uncharted territory. There was no formula for how to survive it economically. Plus, that spending on people increased demand.

[BDKJMU]

That’s because the ‘We got to do something‘ stupidity of politicians wasn‘t limited to the US.

Without Covid .9 trillion Covid relief bill 2 (Trump) and 1.9 Covid relief bill 3 (Biden) + another 4-5 trillion or so profligate spending under Biden (so called Infrastructure, inflation creation Act, Ukraine, etc, etc) from the Magic $$$ Trees in DC we wouldn‘t have had hardly any inflation. Newsflash:
-If you give most families of 4 four three rounds of 11.6k in $$$ (3.8k per adult, 2.5k per child) for doing nothing.
-Pay people extended enhanced unemployment for up to 1.5 years to sit on their ass.
You create inflation because
-Cause labor shortage’s.
-Increase labor costs.
-Too much $$$ chasing too few goods.
All of which increases inflation.
Then wait for a full year to start to increase interest rates to tamp down the inflation (while never turning off the $$$ spigots) you kill the housing market.

It’s how we got through WWII debt and inflation. Covid was uncharted territory. There was no formula for how to survive it economically. Plus, that spending on people increased demand.

The US started WWII with zero debt.
Adjusted for inflation to 2024 dollars, the US spent 5.7 trillion on WWII (5.3 trillion in 2022 dollars)
https://www.investopedia.com/united-sta ... ar-8696931

As of Jan 2023 the US had spent 4.6 trillion on Covid.
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-23-106647

So we pent almost as much on Covid as we did the entirety of WWII. Let that sink in a moment.

[kalm]

It’s how we got through WWII debt and inflation. Covid was uncharted territory. There was no formula for how to survive it economically. Plus, that spending on people increased demand.

The US started WWII with zero debt.
Adjusted for inflation, the US spent more on COVID than did on WWII. Let that sink in for a moment.

Link?

[kalm]

[BDKJMU]

Rudy Giuliani, John Eastman, Mark Meadows, Tyler Bowyer, Christina Bobb, Boris Epshteyn, Jenna Ellis, Sidney Powell, Jeffrey Clark, Kelli Ward and others..

[UNI88]

Rudy Giuliani, John Eastman, Mark Meadows, Tyler Bowyer, Christina Bobb, Boris Epshteyn, Jenna Ellis, Sidney Powell, Jeffrey Clark, Kelli Ward and others..

trump pardons charlatans found guilty of spreading the 2020 election was stolen HOAX.