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[UNI88]

No I’m not against healthcare

For starters, I’m against excessive testing, scare tactics and playing on your emotions that are designed to get you into their testing “universe” they will do this especially if they like your insurance

Body scans, MRIs, CT scans that are really not necessary and very expensive

CT scans are really not good for you anyway. And these scans always find something that wasn’t really what they were looking for in the first place to keep you going back to the doctor. You’re stuck emotionally because nobody wants to die and the medical field uses this against you. One of the best things I heard a doctor say was “you’re not gonna die from this, you’ll die with this” … he wasn’t talking to me, but the person he was talking to benefitted emotionally from that statement

And one of the reasons there is so much testing now is because everyone has insurance… and nobody negotiates on the price of medical procedures because they think their insurance will cover it ….so why negotiate …. these insurance companies can charge whatever they want

Oh man is there a crap ton of ignorance in this post.

What tests are necessary in your book? Have you ever been referred for an MRI? Are you aware of the hoops you often have to go through to get one? I am.

What about testing costs before deductibles are met? I had a good friend who I helped get into recovery in January. The cost for a 28 day program was $36,000. He had a $6,000 deductible through his employer based plan.

Have a seat son. You’re way over your skis on this one.

CH isn't completely wrong. There are probably some risk averse doctors who order unnecessary tests. Are the doctors the only ones to blame? Or should we also place some blame on plaintiffs bar attorneys and litigious twats like donald trump who sue people at the drop of a hat?

I know, I know - tDS, tDS, tDS, blah, blah, blah.

[Caribbean Hen]

No I’m not against healthcare

For starters, I’m against excessive testing, scare tactics and playing on your emotions that are designed to get you into their testing “universe” they will do this especially if they like your insurance

Body scans, MRIs, CT scans that are really not necessary and very expensive

CT scans are really not good for you anyway. And these scans always find something that wasn’t really what they were looking for in the first place to keep you going back to the doctor. You’re stuck emotionally because nobody wants to die and the medical field uses this against you. One of the best things I heard a doctor say was “you’re not gonna die from this, you’ll die with this” … he wasn’t talking to me, but the person he was talking to benefitted emotionally from that statement

And one of the reasons there is so much testing now is because everyone has insurance… and nobody negotiates on the price of medical procedures because they think their insurance will cover it ….so why negotiate …. these insurance companies can charge whatever they want

Oh man is there a crap ton of ignorance in this post.

What tests are necessary in your book? Have you ever been referred for an MRI? Are you aware of the hoops you often have to go through to get one? I am.

What about testing costs before deductibles are met? I had a good friend who I helped get into recovery in January. The cost for a 28 day program was $36,000. He had a $6,000 deductible through his employer based plan.

Have a seat son. You’re way over your skis on this one.

It’s a tough one and it’s exactly what the insurance industry prays on, the doctors will CT scan you to death if you allow them to

Note that I’m not talking about your situation but in generalities

[BDKJMU]

So why is it called Obamacare?

He got all the credit for it so he should also get all the blame

The blame is he didn’t go far enough, failing to establish a public option………like EVERY OTHER advanced economy that spends way less on healthcare with equal to if not better outcomes.

And every other advanced economy doesn’t have 1/2 their population being lard buckets. Because of that we will spend more with worse outcomes no matter what we do until we fix the diet/processed foods/lack of exercise/sitting on ass epidemic.

[BDKJMU]

All of the problems is, it’s not really healthcare at all. It’s health scare.

Approximately 16% of the population was uninsured prior to the ACA. That's dropped to approximately 8% today. If you were one of the approximately 8% who now has insurance it was not a "scare". That's roughly 23 million people.

How many of that 16% were illegal aliens?
How many of that 16% were legal immigrants? (To be a green card holder you aren’t suppose to be a public charge).

The % of US Citizens who were uninsured prior to ACA wasn’t that high.

[BDKJMU]

Oh man is there a crap ton of ignorance in this post.

What tests are necessary in your book? Have you ever been referred for an MRI? Are you aware of the hoops you often have to go through to get one? I am.

What about testing costs before deductibles are met? I had a good friend who I helped get into recovery in January. The cost for a 28 day program was $36,000. He had a $6,000 deductible through his employer based plan.

Have a seat son. You’re way over your skis on this one.

CH isn't completely wrong. There are probably some risk averse doctors who order unnecessary tests. Are the doctors the only ones to blame? Or should we also place some blame on plaintiffs bar attorneys and litigious twats like donald trump who sue people at the drop of a hat?

I know, I know - tDS, tDS, tDS, blah, blah, blah.

No that is a reasonable take.

[Caribbean Hen]

CH isn't completely wrong. There are probably some risk averse doctors who order unnecessary tests. Are the doctors the only ones to blame? Or should we also place some blame on plaintiffs bar attorneys and litigious twats like donald trump who sue people at the drop of a hat?

I know, I know - tDS, tDS, tDS, blah, blah, blah.

No that is a reasonable take.

Yep, the lawyers and the lawsuits are the real reasons the doctors order all the tests, they really don’t have any choice. If you opt out of the test, most of them are perfectly fine with it as well.

[Caribbean Hen]

Oh man is there a crap ton of ignorance in this post.

What tests are necessary in your book? Have you ever been referred for an MRI? Are you aware of the hoops you often have to go through to get one? I am.

What about testing costs before deductibles are met? I had a good friend who I helped get into recovery in January. The cost for a 28 day program was $36,000. He had a $6,000 deductible through his employer based plan.

Have a seat son. You’re way over your skis on this one.

CH isn't completely wrong. There are probably some risk averse doctors who order unnecessary tests. Are the doctors the only ones to blame? Or should we also place some blame on plaintiffs bar attorneys and litigious twats like donald trump who sue people at the drop of a hat?

I know, I know - tDS, tDS, tDS, blah, blah, blah.

Just based on my own experience when they tried to rush somebody in for a cardiac catheterization something just didn’t feel right…. The more questions you ask the more you learn and what I learned is a lot of doctors are full of shit.

If you have good insurance, be extra careful

By Dr. Evan, Levine, MD

Are some American hospitals risking the health and even the lives of their patients in order to garner greater profits? A recent review published in January, 2014, in a journal from the American Heart Association, of a database of diagnostic coronary angiography in New York State, strongly suggests they are.

It found that only 35% of all the coronary angiograms between 2010 and 2011, were definitely appropriate studies, while 25% were considered absolutely without merit. These mindboggling numbers should sound an alarm to anyone who has been scheduled for an angiogram, in any part of our country, and speaks volumes to issues I have been warning the public about since the publication of my book, What Your Doctor Won’t (or Can’t) Tell You, almost ten years ago.

[Caribbean Hen]

https://www.namd.org/journal-of-medicin ... dures.html

Tip of the iceberg especially in a totally corrupt state like NY

[Caribbean Hen]

“Once patients arrived at the Brooklyn Clinic, often without understanding why they had been referred to the practice, they underwent a series of diagnostic tests and follow-up office visits. These tests and office visits generally were not based on the patients’ actual treatment needs. Rather, MITTAL and others acting at his direction ordered these tests and office visits to create documentation sufficient to justify subjecting patients to unnecessary peripheral vascular interventional procedures—surgical procedures focused on clearing purported blockages in the blood vessels in patients’ legs. MITTAL directed others to, among other things, fabricate the descriptions of patients’ symptoms recorded in the practice’s office visit notes, varying the symptoms across patients so that it was not apparent that the symptoms were fake”