Biden ignored the Supreme Court on college loans. Why should anyone else follow the rules?UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 02, 2025 8:40 pmYou're the one who is obsessed with my ass.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Dec 02, 2025 6:48 pm
What is your odd obsession with gay sex?
Regardless your hang ups, the family got a notice to appear in court, that is on record in PACER that their asylum was denied and they needed to leave. Follow that up with a 2017 meeting that told them the same. If the family moved, they also didn't follow the law by letting the government know where to send communication, but that isn't being said. Lastly, they didn't bother to come through a port of entry like required, but hopped the border. That's a lot of breaking the law.
The judge is pulling the usual. Girl is gone, but I'm going to stamp my feet and show my TDS.
The judge's ruling seems pretty reasonable and also temporary (i.e. keep her here while we sort this out). The government simply has to make their case in court, win and then they can deport. The were either impatient or they were worried they didn't have a strong enough case to win. If the judge's verdict doesn't go their way they can appeal. That is the role of the judiciary and how the legal process works.
The government doesn't get to ignore the judge's ruling because they don't like it, disagree with it, or think the judge has tDS.
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Glad you acknowledge that.
Now…reconcile the pardon of one of the most prolific drug traffickers in history with what’s happening in Venezuela. A country who’s responsible for what? Maybe 1% of the drugs entering the U.S., none of which is fentanyl btw.
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So a girl who's parents ignored a court date and/or didn't notify officials per law their location should get to stay because of some prolific drug guy? Wut
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Playing dumb is not your strength. No wait!SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 7:38 pmSo a girl who's parents ignored a court date and/or didn't notify officials per law their location should get to stay because of some prolific drug guy? Wut
Or is it?
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Yes. The fact the family did not come through a port of entry, have a PACER record a summons was sent to their address, and if they weren't there, they did not fill out the forms in a lawful manner.kalm wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 8:50 pmPlaying dumb is not your strength. No wait!SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 7:38 pm
So a girl who's parents ignored a court date and/or didn't notify officials per law their location should get to stay because of some prolific drug guy? Wut
Or is it?
What else is there? Like I said, parents broke the law and now the daughter is paying. It's despicable you go after everyone but the two people that caused this, her parents.
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Care to back that up with proof using actual legal analysis not biased bullshit that you pulled from a MAQA yahoo echo chamber?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 7:17 pmBiden ignored the Supreme Court on college loans. Why should anyone else follow the rules?UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 02, 2025 8:40 pm
You're the one who is obsessed with my ass.
The judge's ruling seems pretty reasonable and also temporary (i.e. keep her here while we sort this out). The government simply has to make their case in court, win and then they can deport. The were either impatient or they were worried they didn't have a strong enough case to win. If the judge's verdict doesn't go their way they can appeal. That is the role of the judiciary and how the legal process works.
The government doesn't get to ignore the judge's ruling because they don't like it, disagree with it, or think the judge has tDS.
It's also more "they did it first" excuses! Didn't you MAQA yahoos say that the adults would be in charge when trump took office? We're 10+ months in, when do they start?
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Looks like you’re not quite cerebral enough to remember the debate started with a comparison between one Honduran girl being deported vs. one Honduran drug kingpin being pardoned.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 9:21 pmYes. The fact the family did not come through a port of entry, have a PACER record a summons was sent to their address, and if they weren't there, they did not fill out the forms in a lawful manner.
What else is there? Like I said, parents broke the law and now the daughter is paying. It's despicable you go after everyone but the two people that caused this, her parents.
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You are the world's shittiest "libertarian". No clue on this one.UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 10:12 pmCare to back that up with proof using actual legal analysis not biased bullshit that you pulled from a MAQA yahoo echo chamber?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 7:17 pm
Biden ignored the Supreme Court on college loans. Why should anyone else follow the rules?
It's also more "they did it first" excuses! Didn't you MAQA yahoos say that the adults would be in charge when trump took office? We're 10+ months in, when do they start?
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I wasn't a part of that stupid conversation. You support law breakers.kalm wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 11:48 pmLooks like you’re not quite cerebral enough to remember the debate started with a comparison between one Honduran girl being deported vs. one Honduran drug kingpin being pardoned.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 9:21 pm
Yes. The fact the family did not come through a port of entry, have a PACER record a summons was sent to their address, and if they weren't there, they did not fill out the forms in a lawful manner.
What else is there? Like I said, parents broke the law and now the daughter is paying. It's despicable you go after everyone but the two people that caused this, her parents.
For shame…![]()
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1%.
Can you account for the other 99%
Colombia is responsible for close to 90%, meaning those drugs originate in Colombia but most off it is actually loaded on the boats in Venezuela now
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So you have nothing:SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:17 amYou are the world's shittiest "libertarian". No clue on this one.UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 10:12 pm
Care to back that up with proof using actual legal analysis not biased bullshit that you pulled from a MAQA yahoo echo chamber?
It's also more "they did it first" excuses! Didn't you MAQA yahoos say that the adults would be in charge when trump took office? We're 10+ months in, when do they start?
- You can't back it up with actual legal analysis.
- You're embarrassed about being called out for using child excuses after all the talk about the adults finally being in charge.
You resort to name calling and/or logical fallacies when you have nothing. It's your MO.
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Powerful rebuke of Biden.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 1:15 pmSo you have nothing:SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:17 am
You are the world's shittiest "libertarian". No clue on this one.
- You can't back it up with actual legal analysis.
- You're embarrassed about being called out for using child excuses after all the talk about the adults finally being in charge.
You resort to name calling and/or logical fallacies when you have nothing. It's your MO.
https://www.mackinac.org/archives/2025/ ... eb2025.pdf
So what did he do after this. He simply changed the loan terms to STILL forgive debt he wasn't supposed to.
You voted and supported this piece of crap.
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I voted for him because I knew the other piece of crap would do much worse…to benefit himself. Unlike assisting college grads where at least the money flows back into the economy for all.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 2:37 pmPowerful rebuke of Biden.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 1:15 pm
So you have nothing:
- You can't back it up with actual legal analysis.
- You're embarrassed about being called out for using child excuses after all the talk about the adults finally being in charge.
You resort to name calling and/or logical fallacies when you have nothing. It's your MO.
https://www.mackinac.org/archives/2025/ ... eb2025.pdf
So what did he do after this. He simply changed the loan terms to STILL forgive debt he wasn't supposed to.
You voted and supported this piece of crap.
But by all means, distract from the current grifter and criminal who defies courts anyway.
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I asked ChatGPT if "Biden ignored the Supreme Court on college loans"? Here is what it said (along with the sources):SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 2:37 pmPowerful rebuke of Biden.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 1:15 pm
So you have nothing:
- You can't back it up with actual legal analysis.
- You're embarrassed about being called out for using child excuses after all the talk about the adults finally being in charge.
You resort to name calling and/or logical fallacies when you have nothing. It's your MO.
https://www.mackinac.org/archives/2025/ ... eb2025.pdf
So what did he do after this. He simply changed the loan terms to STILL forgive debt he wasn't supposed to.
You voted and supported this piece of crap.
It might be a "powerful rebuke of Biden" but it isn't proof that "Biden ignored the Supreme Court on college loans".In June 2023, the Supreme Court issued a 6–3 decision invalidating Biden’s proposed plan to forgive up to $20,000 in federal student debt per borrower. The Court found that under the existing law (the 2003 Heroes Act) the administration lacked authority to enact such sweeping cancellation.
- The Guardian, CBS News
After the ruling, Biden publicly acknowledged the decision, said he thought the Court was “wrong,” but accepted its decision. He said his administration would seek a new “path” to debt relief under a different law.
- CNBC, The White House
The administration did not re-implement the identical plan that SCOTUS struck down. That means they did not defy a direct Supreme Court order.
After the ruling, the administration pivoted to alternative measures: using existing statutory authorities (e.g. other loan-relief, income-driven repayment, loan forgiveness under targeted programs) in an attempt to deliver relief.
- CBS News, Newsweek
Some of those efforts were challenged in court too, which has led critics to argue the administration is skating close to the boundaries or trying to circumvent the spirit of the ruling.
- Newsweek
I didn't vote for the piece of crap biden, piece of crap trump, piece of crap harris, or piece of crap clinton in the last 3 Presidential elections. Can you say that you didn't vote for any of those pieces of crap?
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Escape From New York isn’t just the title of a 1981 pulp classic starring Kurt Russell. It’s what Westchester County and Florida realtors told the world (including Fortune) about what would happen if Gotham elected a socialist mayor. But it’s time for a sequel with a different title.
In the aftermath of much well-heeled panic about a potential mass exodus of New York millionaires and billionaires following the election of Zohran Mamdani, the contrary is already happening, and Manhattan luxury apartment buyers are voting with their wallets.
Signed contracts for Manhattan homes costing $4 million or more rose to 176 in November, a 25% increase from October’s 141 deals, according to fresh data from brokerage Douglas Elliman and appraiser Miller Samuel. New signed contracts of more than $4 million increased at more than twice the rate of the overall market, the report noted.
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Tim Burchette doing his best Bernie imitation. MAGA now shifting to the left? 
Or just broken clocks…
Or just broken clocks…
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kalm wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 3:41 pmI voted for him because I knew the other piece of crap would do much worse…to benefit himself. Unlike assisting college grads where at least the money flows back into the economy for all.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 2:37 pm
Powerful rebuke of Biden.
https://www.mackinac.org/archives/2025/ ... eb2025.pdf
So what did he do after this. He simply changed the loan terms to STILL forgive debt he wasn't supposed to.
You voted and supported this piece of crap.
But by all means, distract from the current grifter and criminal who defies courts anyway.![]()
Trump may put out some crazy EO's but he's never continued after the courts told him to stop unlike Biden, but you know, norms and traditions can only be trampled by dipshits like PedoJoe.
You voted for Joe Biden? Holy shit.
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Biden got slapped down, so he went back and essentially changed the terms of the loans to forgive the debt. Sleazy move.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 6:59 pmI asked ChatGPT if "Biden ignored the Supreme Court on college loans"? Here is what it said (along with the sources):SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 2:37 pm
Powerful rebuke of Biden.
https://www.mackinac.org/archives/2025/ ... eb2025.pdf
So what did he do after this. He simply changed the loan terms to STILL forgive debt he wasn't supposed to.
You voted and supported this piece of crap.
It might be a "powerful rebuke of Biden" but it isn't proof that "Biden ignored the Supreme Court on college loans".In June 2023, the Supreme Court issued a 6–3 decision invalidating Biden’s proposed plan to forgive up to $20,000 in federal student debt per borrower. The Court found that under the existing law (the 2003 Heroes Act) the administration lacked authority to enact such sweeping cancellation.
- The Guardian, CBS News
After the ruling, Biden publicly acknowledged the decision, said he thought the Court was “wrong,” but accepted its decision. He said his administration would seek a new “path” to debt relief under a different law.
- CNBC, The White House
The administration did not re-implement the identical plan that SCOTUS struck down. That means they did not defy a direct Supreme Court order.
After the ruling, the administration pivoted to alternative measures: using existing statutory authorities (e.g. other loan-relief, income-driven repayment, loan forgiveness under targeted programs) in an attempt to deliver relief.
- CBS News, Newsweek
Some of those efforts were challenged in court too, which has led critics to argue the administration is skating close to the boundaries or trying to circumvent the spirit of the ruling.
- Newsweek
I didn't vote for the piece of crap biden, piece of crap trump, piece of crap harris, or piece of crap clinton in the last 3 Presidential elections. Can you say that you didn't vote for any of those pieces of crap?
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The irony of a trump supporter calling something a sleazy move is rich indeed. The sun would probably set before I finished typing up all of trump's sleazy moves.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 9:26 amBiden got slapped down, so he went back and essentially changed the terms of the loans to forgive the debt. Sleazy move.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 6:59 pm
I asked ChatGPT if "Biden ignored the Supreme Court on college loans"? Here is what it said (along with the sources):
It might be a "powerful rebuke of Biden" but it isn't proof that "Biden ignored the Supreme Court on college loans".
I didn't vote for the piece of crap biden, piece of crap trump, piece of crap harris, or piece of crap clinton in the last 3 Presidential elections. Can you say that you didn't vote for any of those pieces of crap?
Good on you for using Chat GPT and especially listing it as your research assistant. I spent the weekend researching unique farming options and came up with what I think is a real winning idea.
ChatGPT is great at research. You just have to give it specific prompts. It's also a great editor. It does seem to have issues with accuracy and copyrights if asked to create something from scratch.
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Spending my money too through donations to EWU but that collective money called taxes is supposed to be spent on what we ALL deem worthy. Debt forgiveness is one of those things. That money gets spent back into the economy unlike tax breaks for billionaires.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 9:23 amkalm wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 3:41 pm
I voted for him because I knew the other piece of crap would do much worse…to benefit himself. Unlike assisting college grads where at least the money flows back into the economy for all.
But by all means, distract from the current grifter and criminal who defies courts anyway.![]()
Always willing to spend other people's money on what YOU deem worthy. How noble of you.
Trump may put out some crazy EO's but he's never continued after the courts told him to stop unlike Biden, but you know, norms and traditions can only be trampled by dipshits like PedoJoe.
You voted for Joe Biden? Holy shit.
And Trump has never not followed court orders? Holy shit is right!
Seattlegriz…still terrible on democracy and economics, but still one heck of a nice person.
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kalm wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 9:57 amSpending my money too through donations to EWU but that collective money called taxes is supposed to be spent on what we ALL deem worthy. Debt forgiveness is one of those things. That money gets spent back into the economy unlike tax breaks for billionaires.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 9:23 am
Always willing to spend other people's money on what YOU deem worthy. How noble of you.
Trump may put out some crazy EO's but he's never continued after the courts told him to stop unlike Biden, but you know, norms and traditions can only be trampled by dipshits like PedoJoe.
You voted for Joe Biden? Holy shit.
And Trump has never not followed court orders? Holy shit is right!![]()
Seattlegriz…still terrible on democracy and economics, but still one heck of a nice person.![]()
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I spent the whole weekend asking Gemini tons of farming/cattle questions and had a blast. Haven't day dreamed like that in years.UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 9:56 amThe irony of a trump supporter calling something a sleazy move is rich indeed. The sun would probably set before I finished typing up all of trump's sleazy moves.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 9:26 am
Biden got slapped down, so he went back and essentially changed the terms of the loans to forgive the debt. Sleazy move.
Good on you for using Chat GPT and especially listing it as your research assistant. I spent the weekend researching unique farming options and came up with what I think is a real winning idea.
ChatGPT is great at research. You just have to give it specific prompts. It's also a great editor. It does seem to have issues with accuracy and copyrights if asked to create something from scratch.
Now that I have this ultimate ranch idea in my head, I need to talk to those who live where the ranch is located, and ask them if what Gemini says, is actually a good idea.
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