You are correct, I don’t know how those jack-booted authoritarian thugs go about raiding a workplace.
And you don’t deny not giving a shit about the Constitution.
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Wrong.
And I’m not the one stuck on stupid saying the ICE raids violate the Constitution.
My arguments that they’re violating searches & seizures (4th), due process (5th) & equal protection (14th) are just as valid/strong as any you might have that they aren’t.
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And I’m not the one stuck on stupid saying the ICE raids violate the Constitution.
Searches & seizures, due process & equal protection.
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None of which are violated during the ICE raids. Keep flailing, lib.
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And I’m not the one stuck on stupid saying the ICE raids violate the Constitution.
My arguments that they’re violating searches & seizures (4th), due process (5th) & equal protection (14th) are just as valid/strong as any you might have that they aren’t.
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None of which are violated during the ICE raids. Keep flailing, lib.
I’m a freedom loving American patriot you brown shirt.
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Sure you are.
Wake me up when the ICE raids are re litigated to be found unconstitutional.
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My arguments that they’re violating searches & seizures (4th), due process (5th) & equal protection (14th) are just as valid/strong as any you might have that they aren’t.
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Now you’re altering QUNI88 posts. What did CH call you 2? Cheng and Eng?
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BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Dec 25, 2025 8:02 pm
Now you’re altering QUNI88 posts. What did CH call you 2? Cheng and Eng?
It was to have you both quoted as intended.
What part about due process do you need help with understanding.
Sounds like you’re the one that needs help in understanding that ICE isn’t violating due process. The INS and now ICE has been conducting workplace raids since the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986, which made it illegal for employers to hire illegals. SCOTUS recently upheld this authority to conduct raids 6-3.
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”At this preliminary stage, the Government has failed to identify a source of authority that would allow the military to execute the laws in Illinois,” the unsigned order reads.
… The court explained that to justify calling up the National Guard, a president must be unable to execute laws with the regular forces of the U.S. military.
That would require “exceptional” circumstances because of the Posse Comitatus Act, a centuries-old law that generally bars federal troops from participating in civilian law enforcement.
…
While the administration alleges “substantial interference” with the Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) ability to enforce federal immigration law, Illinois and Chicago officials told the high court there is “no credible evidence” to support such a conclusion.
“Instead, the evidence shows that federal facilities in Illinois remain open, the individuals ‘who have violated the law by attacking federal authorities have been arrested,’ and enforcement of immigration law in Illinois has only increased in recent weeks,” they said.
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Court emphasized that it was not issuing a final decision on whether or not the president has the authority to deploy the National Guard. It focuses on the emergency request before the Court while side-stepping the overall issue, which is not out of line with other recent rulings.
The Court made clear in its decision that it is not addressing the underlying constitutional questions, nor is it making a determination as to whether or not Trump's orders were lawful. It also, notably, does not prevent future deployments.
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kalm wrote: ↑Thu Dec 25, 2025 9:30 pm
It was to have you both quoted as intended.
What part about due process do you need help with understanding.
Sounds like you’re the one that needs help in understanding that ICE isn’t violating due process. The INS and now ICE has been conducting workplace raids since the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986, which made it illegal for employers to hire illegals. SCOTUS recently upheld this authority to conduct raids 6-3.
Please tell us the case where SCOTUS made this 6-3 ruling.
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What part about due process do you need help with understanding.
Sounds like you’re the one that needs help in understanding that ICE isn’t violating due process. The INS and now ICE has been conducting workplace raids since the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986, which made it illegal for employers to hire illegals. SCOTUS recently upheld this authority to conduct raids 6-3.
If this were all true, the court was and is still wrong. The constitution is quite clear.
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Sounds like you’re the one that needs help in understanding that ICE isn’t violating due process. The INS and now ICE has been conducting workplace raids since the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986, which made it illegal for employers to hire illegals. SCOTUS recently upheld this authority to conduct raids 6-3.
Please tell us the case where SCOTUS made this 6-3 ruling.
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BDKJMU wrote: ↑Fri Dec 26, 2025 12:00 am
Sounds like you’re the one that needs help in understanding that ICE isn’t violating due process. The INS and now ICE has been conducting workplace raids since the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986, which made it illegal for employers to hire illegals. SCOTUS recently upheld this authority to conduct raids 6-3.
If this were all true, the court was and is still wrong. The constitution is quite clear.
Well the notion that ICE is violating the 14th is
On the other side we have 40 years of the courts not saying INS/ICE workplace raids violate the Constitution. So until SCOTUS rules otherwise, keep
About ICE raids.
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Under what authority did they bust into the bathroom? Were ther exigent circumstances?
They were there under a document (i.e. administrative) warrant which allows them to inspect employment records and enter non-public areas to the extent necessary to obtain those documents. They didn't need to enter the bathroom to obtain those documents. A workplace is private property. They likely needed a judicial warrant to further search the workplace, including the bathroom.
Good to see that you noticed the similarity between that SCOTUS ruling and the National Guard ruling that you posted about at the same time.
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If this were all true, the court was and is still wrong. The constitution is quite clear.
Well the notion that ICE is violating the 14th is
On the other side we have 40 years of the courts not saying INS/ICE workplace raids violate the Constitution. So until SCOTUS rules otherwise, keep
About ICE raids.
That’s my opinion? Oh the irony!
I’m pointing out facts that a 9 year old can understand. You’re responding with the OPINIONS of corruptible, flawed, and political judges. You’re reduced to quivering vagina every time dear leader is criticized using FACTS and common sense.
Court emphasized that it was not issuing a final decision on whether or not the president has the authority to deploy the National Guard. It focuses on the emergency request before the Court while side-stepping the overall issue, which is not out of line with other recent rulings.
The Court made clear in its decision that it is not addressing the underlying constitutional questions, nor is it making a determination as to whether or not Trump's orders were lawful. It also, notably, does not prevent future deployments.
Does nicky sortor understand that under Posse Comitatus, trump would need to justify deploying the Marines? He'd most likely attempt to use the Insurrection Act which would almost certainly lead to litigation and delays.
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Does nicky sortor understand that under Posse Comitatus, trump would need to justify deploying the Marines? He'd most likely attempt to use the Insurrection Act which would almost certainly lead to litigation and delays.
If federal property in the city of Chicago was being attacked, the Chicago PD refused to help stop it, and the limited # of Fed LEOs there weren’t sufficient to protect it 24/7 against the leftist mobs, that would be the justification. The National Guard would be the obvious choice, but Congress wrote the statute to say ‘regular forces’ must be used before the NG. Blame Congress for getting it backwards, or at least not being clear as to what they meant.
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UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 26, 2025 12:52 pm
Does nicky sortor understand that under Posse Comitatus, trump would need to justify deploying the Marines? He'd most likely attempt to use the Insurrection Act which would almost certainly lead to litigation and delays.
If federal property in the city of Chicago was being attacked, the Chicago PD refused to help stop it, and the limited # of Fed LEOs there weren’t sufficient to protect it 24/7 against the patriots defending the Constitution, that would be the justification. The National Guard would be the obvious choice, but Congress wrote the statute to say ‘regular forces’ must be used before the NG. Blame Congress for getting it backwards, or at least not being clear as to what they meant.
Sure, they can protect federal property but they can't go on patrol, engage in crowd control, perform searches, etc. In other words, trump can't turn them loose on American patriots like an invading force.
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This Court is becoming all too familiar with Respondents’ self-apparent tactic of 'arrest first, ask questions later,' which is the crux of the violation of Petitioner’s Due Process rights here," McShane wrote.
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The part where you stood up to PedoJoe and Obama and raised this issue.
Meh…I don’t seem to remember them employing the Gestapo to round up immigrants.
Immigrants aren‘t being round up. Illegal aliens are.
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