Venezuelan War

[Caribbean Hen]

There is a lot going on in Venezuela and it’s more than Maduro being the king of a drug trafficking organization

The Chinese are in Venezuela, the Russians are in Venezuela and who knows what they are up to… they know but we don’t know everything just yet

But having nuclear warheads in Venezuela is much more of a threat than coming from Russia of China due to the range

So Trump blowing up drug smugglers coming out of Venezuela is really so much more than just a war on drugs

I could envision this turning into a “bay of pigs” scenario, all Russia has done is move their threats from Cuba to Venezuela this time, China is involved as well

The Coast Guard has been doing an outstanding job along those routes for about 40 years now, but you would need about 10 Coast Guards to shut it down. Yes the Navy has helped but they are just platforms. Also, the guys driving these go fast boats smuggling drugs are the lowest pawns in the DTO. If they get caught, tried and convicted prison sentences are light, with free healthcare and food. It’s not that great of a deterrent really as these guys live in great fear on the outside

We are not worried about nukes in Venezuela. This isn't Cuba all over again. And nuclear missiles in Venezuela are not any more threatening than nuclear missiles in submarines sitting not too far off the Atlantic and Pacific coasts. This isn't the movie "War Games", and if it were the only way to win would be not to play.

Yea, the difference is removing the brutal dictator worked to
Perfection in 2026

The Bay of Pigs plan to take out Castro over 60 years ago was a disaster

So maybe now you will see how all of this is about more than just Venezuela

Cuba could be next …. The people could see this as an opportunity to revolt.

And remember the Secretary of State has deep Cuban roots, the good kind. Being from Miami he knows all about communist Cuba, and how horrible it is. Rubio has a deep understanding of how Latin America works, something we didn’t have in Iraq or Afghanistan

[SeattleGriz]

No troop losses last night. Surgical strikes vs Obama style wars.

Good thing that was the hard part. Running "the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper and judicious transition" will be the easy part. It won't require boots on the ground and no US military personnel will be killed, injured or captured.



And running Venezuela "won’t cost us anything" because U.S. oil companies will invest in new infrastructure in the oil-rich country. "It’s going to make a lot of money". As if the only cost that matters is financial and the lives that might be lost are irrelevant in light of the potential financial gains. Thank you donald trump!

Why are you not supportive of the Venezuelans?

[Baldy]

Deposing an indicted brutal military narco terrorist dictator who resides 500 miles from our shore line who also happened to be our two main enemies biggest ally in our hemisphere is the epitome of America First.

That's debatable. America First proponents like Thomas Massie and Trailer Park Barbie disagree.

It's a foreign entanglement/conflict which MAQA yahoos told us all through 2024 that trump was going to keep us out of.

The only principle that MAQA really follows is to blindly support anything trump says and does no matter how hypocritical and/or contradictory.

Being so desperate to use the trailer park Homecoming Queen to make a point means you don't have a point.

Trump always said the if he ever used the military for operations, it would be quick and decisive. That's exactly what happened in Venezuela.

[UNI88]

We are not worried about nukes in Venezuela. This isn't Cuba all over again. And nuclear missiles in Venezuela are not any more threatening than nuclear missiles in submarines sitting not too far off the Atlantic and Pacific coasts. This isn't the movie "War Games", and if it were the only way to win would be not to play.

Yea, the difference is removing the brutal dictator worked to
Perfection in 2026

The Bay of Pigs plan to take out Castro over 60 years ago was a disaster

So maybe now you will see how all of this is about more than just Venezuela

Cuba could be next …. The people could see this as an opportunity to revolt.

And remember the Secretary of State has deep Cuban roots, the good kind. Being from Miami he knows all about communist Cuba, and how horrible it is. Rubio has a deep understanding of how America works, something we didn’t have in Iraq or Afghanistan

Worked to perfection means that:
- No US boots on the ground needed moving forward
- The transition of power in venezuela will be peaceful and few lives will be lost
- The people will elect a representative government fairly quickly

Removing maduro was the easy part. Replacing him is the hard part. We'll see how that goes compared to prior attempts at regime change.

[UNI88]

That's debatable. America First proponents like Thomas Massie and Trailer Park Barbie disagree.

It's a foreign entanglement/conflict which MAQA yahoos told us all through 2024 that trump was going to keep us out of.

The only principle that MAQA really follows is to blindly support anything trump says and does no matter how hypocritical and/or contradictory.

Being so desperate to use the trailer park Homecoming Queen to make a point means you don't have a point.

Trump always said the if he ever used the military for operations, it would be quick and decisive. That's exactly what happened in Venezuela.

I have a point but you'd rather take pot shots then actually address it.

Capturing maduro was quick and decisive because that was the easy part. Running venezuela as trump says we'll do is the hard part and I don't think that's going to be so "quick and decisive" but we'll see how it goes.

FTR - I'm happy for the Venezuelan people and I hope this works out for them: the transition is relatively peaceful, they quickly get a representative government, they (not another nation or foreign corporations) control and profit from their country's resources.

[BDKJMU]

Semantics -it was a conflict and Venezuela is a conflict.

As are Iran, Nigeria & Yemen

And we've threatened: Greenland, Mexico & Panama.

So much for putting America First and staying out of foreign entanglements. The only principle that MAQA really follows is to support anything trump says and does no matter how hypocritical and/or contradictory.

Deposing an indicted brutal military narco terrorist dictator who resides 500 miles from our shore line who also happened to be our two main enemies biggest ally in our hemisphere is the epitome of America First.

Bingo.

[UNI88]

Deposing an indicted brutal military narco terrorist dictator who resides 500 miles from our shore line who also happened to be our two main enemies biggest ally in our hemisphere is the epitome of America First.

Bingo.

The only principle that MAQA really follows is to blindly support anything trump says and does no matter how hypocritical and/or contradictory.

[Caribbean Hen]

Yea, the difference is removing the brutal dictator worked to
Perfection in 2026

The Bay of Pigs plan to take out Castro over 60 years ago was a disaster

So maybe now you will see how all of this is about more than just Venezuela

Cuba could be next …. The people could see this as an opportunity to revolt.

And remember the Secretary of State has deep Cuban roots, the good kind. Being from Miami he knows all about communist Cuba, and how horrible it is. Rubio has a deep understanding of how America works, something we didn’t have in Iraq or Afghanistan

Worked to perfection means that:
- No US boots on the ground needed moving forward
- The transition of power in venezuela will be peaceful and few lives will be lost
- The people will elect a representative government fairly quickly

Removing maduro was the easy part. Replacing him is the hard part. We'll see how that goes compared to prior attempts at regime change.

It’s going to take time too see how all of this shakes out but you have to play the first Quarter first… The Venezuelan people are overwhelming celebrating Trumps actions but your right in a way, the adrenaline will eventually wear off and their will be some tough times ahead

Lot’s of intrenched thugs still left in Venezuela, if they don’t see the light, Marco will make sure they never see the light of day.

Venezuela was once a rich a prosperous Latin American nation before the Klamdami types took over and started pocketing all the oil money for themselves.

I want to see Venezuelans prosperous again.

If Marco is behind the fall of communist Cuba he will get his own Statue of Liberty in Miami … oh by the way, Maduro was flown right by the Statue of Liberty…. Boom!!!

MVGA

[UNI88]

Trump warns acting Venezuelan leader will ‘pay a big price’ if she doesn’t cooperate

Trump told The Atlantic on Sunday that Rodriguez could face a fate similar to Maduro, who is being detained in federal prison in New York on narcoterrorism and drug trafficking charges, if she doesn’t align with U.S. interests.

“If she doesn’t do what’s right, she is going to pay a very big price, probably bigger than Maduro,” Trump said.

Is trump putting the cart (his ego) before the horse (any hope of legality)?

Has Rodriguez been indicted for narco-terrorism, conspiracy to import cocaine, and corruption?

[kalm]

Worked to perfection means that:
- No US boots on the ground needed moving forward
- The transition of power in venezuela will be peaceful and few lives will be lost
- The people will elect a representative government fairly quickly

Removing maduro was the easy part. Replacing him is the hard part. We'll see how that goes compared to prior attempts at regime change.

It’s going to take time too see how all of this shakes out but you have to play the first Quarter first… The Venezuelan people are overwhelming celebrating Trumps actions but your right in a way, the adrenaline will eventually wear off and their will be some tough times ahead

Lot’s of intrenched thugs still left in Venezuela, if they don’t see the light, Marco will make sure they never see the light of day.

Venezuela was once a rich a prosperous Latin American nation before the Klamdami types took over and started pocketing all the oil money for themselves.

I want to see Venezuelans prosperous again.

If Marco is behind the fall of communist Cuba he will get his own Statue of Liberty in Miami … oh by the way, Maduro was flown right by the Statue of Liberty…. Boom!!!

MVGA

Or you don’t schedule DII’s. Nothing to gain forced fans and heaven forbid something goes wrong.

I’m just glad you’re recognizing the power of us democratic socialists!

[Baldy]

Trump warns acting Venezuelan leader will ‘pay a big price’ if she doesn’t cooperate

Trump told The Atlantic on Sunday that Rodriguez could face a fate similar to Maduro, who is being detained in federal prison in New York on narcoterrorism and drug trafficking charges, if she doesn’t align with U.S. interests.

“If she doesn’t do what’s right, she is going to pay a very big price, probably bigger than Maduro,” Trump said.

Is trump putting the cart (his ego) before the horse (any hope of legality)?

Has Rodriguez been indicted for narco-terrorism, conspiracy to import cocaine, and corruption?

Rodriguez is still part of an illegitimate regime that stole the Venezuelan elections in 2024. Not keeping the heat on her would be disastrous on our part.

[Baldy]

What message is that? Invade Taiwan?

Yes, China (as well as Russia) have been playing fair and living by the norms, but now the US has provided them the framework to become bad actors.....

[Caribbean Hen]

It’s going to take time too see how all of this shakes out but you have to play the first Quarter first… The Venezuelan people are overwhelming celebrating Trumps actions but your right in a way, the adrenaline will eventually wear off and their will be some tough times ahead

Lot’s of intrenched thugs still left in Venezuela, if they don’t see the light, Marco will make sure they never see the light of day.

Venezuela was once a rich a prosperous Latin American nation before the Klamdami types took over and started pocketing all the oil money for themselves.

I want to see Venezuelans prosperous again.

If Marco is behind the fall of communist Cuba he will get his own Statue of Liberty in Miami … oh by the way, Maduro was flown right by the Statue of Liberty…. Boom!!!

MVGA

Or you don’t schedule DII’s. Nothing to gain forced fans and heaven forbid something goes wrong.

I’m just glad you’re recognizing the power of us democratic socialists!

Nothing to gain for you maybe

Where is your empathy for the 7 million people of Venezuela?

[kalm]

Or you don’t schedule DII’s. Nothing to gain forced fans and heaven forbid something goes wrong.

I’m just glad you’re recognizing the power of us democratic socialists!

Nothing to gain for you maybe

Where is your empathy for the 7 million people of Venezuela?

[kalm]

What message is that? Invade Taiwan?

Yes, China (as well as Russia) have been playing fair and living by the norms, but now the US has provided them the framework to become bad actors.....

We’re on par now with Russia and China. Hooray!

[Baldy]

Yes, China (as well as Russia) have been playing fair and living by the norms, but now the US has provided them the framework to become bad actors.....

We’re on par now with Russia and China. Hooray!

I'm sure...in your mind.

[Baldy]

[UNI88]

Trump warns acting Venezuelan leader will ‘pay a big price’ if she doesn’t cooperate

Is trump putting the cart (his ego) before the horse (any hope of legality)?

Has Rodriguez been indicted for narco-terrorism, conspiracy to import cocaine, and corruption?

Rodriguez is still part of an illegitimate regime that stole the Venezuelan elections in 2024. Not keeping the heat on her would be disastrous on our part.

So which was/is it:
- a law‑enforcement operation to capture someone under indictment?
- regime change?

[Caribbean Hen]

Nothing to gain for you maybe

Where is your empathy for the 7 million people of Venezuela?

Is that you reaching for your afternoon doobie

[Caribbean Hen]

Semantics -it was a conflict and Venezuela is a conflict.

As are Iran, Nigeria & Yemen

And we've threatened: Greenland, Mexico & Panama.

So much for putting America First and staying out of foreign entanglements. The only principle that MAQA really follows is to support anything trump says and does no matter how hypocritical and/or contradictory.

Deposing an indicted brutal military narco terrorist dictator who resides 500 miles from our shore line who also happened to be our two main enemies biggest ally in our hemisphere is the epitome of America First.

Puerto Rico was used for this operation and it’s only about 350 miles from the new Airbnb Maduro fortress

[Baldy]

Rodriguez is still part of an illegitimate regime that stole the Venezuelan elections in 2024. Not keeping the heat on her would be disastrous on our part.

So which was/is it:
- a law‑enforcement operation to capture someone under indictment?
- regime change?

That's a really dumb question since the guy we arrested was the de facto illegitimate leader of the country.

[Caribbean Hen]

Klams brain

[UNI88]

So which was/is it:
- a law‑enforcement operation to capture someone under indictment?
- regime change?

That's a really dumb question since the guy we arrested was the de facto illegitimate leader of the country.

That's your opinion and it ignores the reality that MAQA yahoos used "it was a law‑enforcement operation to capture someone under indictment" to argue that the operation was legal.

The it was a law‑enforcement operation to capture someone under indictment argument doesn't currently apply to Rodriguez and can't be used to "legally" remove her.

But thank you for continuing to demonstrate MAQA hypocrisy.

[Caribbean Hen]

That's a really dumb question since the guy we arrested was the de facto illegitimate leader of the country.

That's your opinion and it ignores the reality that MAQA yahoos used "it was a law‑enforcement operation to capture someone under indictment" to argue that the operation was legal.

The it was a law‑enforcement operation to capture someone under indictment argument doesn't currently apply to Rodriguez and can't be used to "legally" remove her.

But thank you for continuing to demonstrate MAQA hypocrisy.

You continue to ignore that people in Congress hate Trump and everything he does at the same level that you do

The operation would’ve been totally compromised / leaked if he went through Congress….. and besides the timing of the operation was in flux because of the weather, so despite your incessant whining like a fan on a hot summer night…. The people of Venezuela have to have an opportunity to be free and prosperous once again.

[UNI88]

That's your opinion and it ignores the reality that MAQA yahoos used "it was a law‑enforcement operation to capture someone under indictment" to argue that the operation was legal.

The it was a law‑enforcement operation to capture someone under indictment argument doesn't currently apply to Rodriguez and can't be used to "legally" remove her.

But thank you for continuing to demonstrate MAQA hypocrisy.

You continue to ignore that people in Congress hate Trump and everything he does at the same level that you do

The operation would’ve been totally compromised / leaked if he went through Congress….. and besides the timing of the operation was in flux because of the weather, so despite your incessant whining like a fan on a hot summer night…. The people of Venezuela have to have an opportunity to be free and prosperous once again.

It would have be inconvenient doesn't justify ignoring the Constitution / international law. The Constitution is a not some flexible document that you can ignore when it gets in the way (of your blind devotion to trump and anything he says and does). If you can then you can kiss the right to bear arms goodbye because liberals can use that same "flexibility" to ignore the 2nd Amendment.

You also can't be the party of "law and order" and ignore the Constitution and international law. The two are incompatible.