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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 7:05 pm
kalm wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 11:05 am

Yeah! Bomb, abduct, and steal natural resources! That definitely deserves the PEACE prize.
Steal? The Venezuelans were producing 3.5 million barrels of oil a day before your socialist heroes Chavez and Maduro took over. Under Maduro that had fallen to 800k barrels of oils a day due to corruption, incompetence, and falling apart infrastructure.

Legal judgements mandate Venezuela owes US oil companies billions due to broken contracts after Chavez took over. They also defaulted on 60 billion in bonds. The US is going to invest billions rebuilding their infrastructure. Damn straight the US taxpayers and US oil companies should be able to recoup that.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/venezu ... investment
The oil belongs to the people of Venezuela. Not Chavez or Maduro, or oil companies. Our legacy in Latin America is one wealth extraction. We’ve done it elsewhere as have all imperialistic western Powers. See Iran and Mousaddegh.

The oil companies and their shareholders can win in court. This does not warrant military intervention on their behalf. And Venezuela was not a threat to the U.S.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 8:00 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Jan 05, 2026 12:12 pm

The Donroe Doctrine will please Putin and Xi.
Lawl, just the opposite. The Donroe doctrine is the US is going to dominate in the Western Hemisphere, and it isn’t going to let the Chicoms and Russia elbow their way in. It is a reinforcement of the Monroe Doctrine.
Putin and Xi are now justified in UKR and Taiwan. They’ll gladly trade Venezuela for those and future aggression.

Donnie doesn’t care about the long game.

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kalm wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 9:42 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 7:05 pm
Steal? The Venezuelans were producing 3.5 million barrels of oil a day before your socialist heroes Chavez and Maduro took over. Under Maduro that had fallen to 800k barrels of oils a day due to corruption, incompetence, and falling apart infrastructure.

Legal judgements mandate Venezuela owes US oil companies billions due to broken contracts after Chavez took over. They also defaulted on 60 billion in bonds. The US is going to invest billions rebuilding their infrastructure. Damn straight the US taxpayers and US oil companies should be able to recoup that.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/venezu ... investment
The oil belongs to the people of Venezuela. Not Chavez or Maduro, or oil companies. Our legacy in Latin America is one wealth extraction. We’ve done it elsewhere as have all imperialistic western Powers. See Iran and Mousaddegh.

The oil companies and their shareholders can win in court. This does not warrant military intervention on their behalf. And Venezuela was not a threat to the U.S.
And how will the people of Venezuela find it, extract it and refine it?

Why would you want Russia and China doing all of these things while the people of Venezuela continue to suffer like the have at the hands of your heroes Che Chavez and Fidel Maduro

The U.S. gives the people of Venezuela a much better opportunity to get back on their feet again
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kalm wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 9:42 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 7:05 pm
Steal? The Venezuelans were producing 3.5 million barrels of oil a day before your socialist heroes Chavez and Maduro took over. Under Maduro that had fallen to 800k barrels of oils a day due to corruption, incompetence, and falling apart infrastructure.

Legal judgements mandate Venezuela owes US oil companies billions due to broken contracts after Chavez took over. They also defaulted on 60 billion in bonds. The US is going to invest billions rebuilding their infrastructure. Damn straight the US taxpayers and US oil companies should be able to recoup that.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/venezu ... investment
The oil belongs to the people of Venezuela. Not Chavez or Maduro, or oil companies. Our legacy in Latin America is one wealth extraction. We’ve done it elsewhere as have all imperialistic western Powers. See Iran and Mousaddegh.

The oil companies and their shareholders can win in court. This does not warrant military intervention on their behalf. And Venezuela was not a threat to the U.S.
And the people of Venezuela weren’t getting the oil under Maduro- only poverty and misery from socialism. Maduro is a narco terrorist criminal (killing hundreds of thousands of Americans) under indictment by the Biden admin with. 50 million bounty on his head (25 by Biden admin). Before socialism Venezuela was the 3rd richest nation in the western hemisphere. They can be that again. MVGA. But you’d rather have Maduro in power.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 4:44 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 9:42 pm
The oil belongs to the people of Venezuela. Not Chavez or Maduro, or oil companies. Our legacy in Latin America is one wealth extraction. We’ve done it elsewhere as have all imperialistic western Powers. See Iran and Mousaddegh.

The oil companies and their shareholders can win in court. This does not warrant military intervention on their behalf. And Venezuela was not a threat to the U.S.
And how will the people of Venezuela find it, extract it and refine it?

Why would you want Russia and China doing all of these things while the people of Venezuela continue to suffer like the have at the hands of your heroes Che Chavez and Fidel Maduro

The U.S. gives the people of Venezuela a much better opportunity to get back on their feet again
You are naive if you think trump and the US oil companies aren't going to take advantage of the situation and the Venezuelan people to enrich themselves.

I also doubt that US oil companies are going to be allowed back in without putting boots on the ground and the likely loss of American lives. Taking the maduros was the easy part.
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Maybe US oil companies aren't going to be that quick to take advantage of the situation ...

Big Oil doesn’t share Trump’s dream of making Venezuelan oil great again
But industry sources tell CNN that American oil executives are unlikely to dive headfirst into Venezuela for multiple reasons: The situation on the ground remains very uncertain, Venezuela’s oil industry is in shambles and Caracas has a history of seizing US oil assets.

Perhaps the biggest problem is that oil prices are too low today to justify spending the gobs of money – possibly tens of billions of dollars – that would be required to revive Venezuela’s decaying oil industry.

“The appetite for jumping into Venezuela right now is pretty low. We have no idea what the government there will look like,” one well-placed industry source told CNN on Monday. “The president’s desire is different than the industry’s. And the White House would have known that if they had communicated with the industry prior to the operation on Saturday.”
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 5:50 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 9:42 pm

The oil belongs to the people of Venezuela. Not Chavez or Maduro, or oil companies. Our legacy in Latin America is one wealth extraction. We’ve done it elsewhere as have all imperialistic western Powers. See Iran and Mousaddegh.

The oil companies and their shareholders can win in court. This does not warrant military intervention on their behalf. And Venezuela was not a threat to the U.S.
And the people of Venezuela weren’t getting the oil under Maduro- only poverty and misery from socialism. Maduro is a narco terrorist criminal (killing hundreds of thousands of Americans) under indictment by the Biden admin with. 50 million bounty on his head (25 by Biden admin). Before socialism Venezuela was the 3rd richest nation in the western hemisphere. They can be that again. MVGA. But you’d rather have Maduro in power.
Why would you think I like Maduro? Or don’t recognize the harm he’s done? I don’t like authoritarians and oligarchies. Right, left, or center. You of course can’t make the same claim.

Now excuse me while I collect my socialist dividends from Alaska and Norway.

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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 9:21 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 4:44 am

And how will the people of Venezuela find it, extract it and refine it?

Why would you want Russia and China doing all of these things while the people of Venezuela continue to suffer like the have at the hands of your heroes Che Chavez and Fidel Maduro

The U.S. gives the people of Venezuela a much better opportunity to get back on their feet again
You are naive if you think trump and the US oil companies aren't going to take advantage of the situation and the Venezuelan people to enrich themselves.

I also doubt that US oil companies are going to be allowed back in without putting boots on the ground and the likely loss of American lives. Taking the maduros was the easy part.
I think you’re overestimating the Venezuelan will to fight for that commy pig maduro or whomever the piglets are now

The Venezuela military will roll over like Marilyn Chambers
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 11:45 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 9:21 am
You are naive if you think trump and the US oil companies aren't going to take advantage of the situation and the Venezuelan people to enrich themselves.

I also doubt that US oil companies are going to be allowed back in without putting boots on the ground and the likely loss of American lives. Taking the maduros was the easy part.
I think you’re overestimating the Venezuelan will to fight for that commy pig maduro or whomever the piglets are now

The Venezuela military will roll over like Lara Trump for a $20 trick.
1) Fighting an insurgent guerrilla war against a US occupation is a lot different than a battlefield clash between forces. They'd be fools to meet us head-on.

2) It's not just the Venezuelan military that would resist. Our troops would also be facing Venezuelan militias and likely Columbian rebel forces (ELN & FARC)

The Venezuelan people might be happy the maduros are gone but I doubt they want to be occupied by US forces either - we're likely to be or become the Redcoats in that scenario. Queue the Iraq comparisons.

Taking the maduros was the easy part.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 1:42 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 11:45 am

I think you’re overestimating the Venezuelan will to fight for that commy pig maduro or whomever the piglets are now

The Venezuela military will roll over like Lara Trump for a $20 trick.
1) Fighting an insurgent guerrilla war against a US occupation is a lot different than a battlefield clash between forces. They'd be fools to meet us head-on.

2) It's not just the Venezuelan military that would resist. Our troops would also be facing Venezuelan militias and likely Columbian rebel forces (ELN & FARC)

The Venezuelan people might be happy the maduros are gone but I doubt they want to be occupied by US forces either - we're likely to be or become the Redcoats in that scenario. Queue the Iraq comparisons.

Taking the maduros was the easy part.
Well, our amazing military conducting a seamless spectacular operation with no US casualties in Venezuela under the direction of Pete Hegseth certainly made it look like the easy part
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 2:48 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 1:42 pm

1) Fighting an insurgent guerrilla war against a US occupation is a lot different than a battlefield clash between forces. They'd be fools to meet us head-on.

2) It's not just the Venezuelan military that would resist. Our troops would also be facing Venezuelan militias and likely Columbian rebel forces (ELN & FARC)

The Venezuelan people might be happy the maduros are gone but I doubt they want to be occupied by US forces either - we're likely to be or become the Redcoats in that scenario. Queue the Iraq comparisons.

Taking the maduros was the easy part.
Well, our amazing military conducting a seamless spectacular operation with no US casualties in Venezuela under the direction of Pete Hegseth certainly made it look like the easy part
The operation was absolutely a success but whiskeyleaks had almost nothing to do with it. He might have given the order but it was the officer and soldiers under his command who carried it out who were responsible for the success.

Once again, and I'm going to say this over and over again - taking the maduros was the easy part.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 3:21 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 2:48 pm

Well, our amazing military conducting a seamless spectacular operation with no US casualties in Venezuela under the direction of Pete Hegseth certainly made it look like the easy part
The operation was absolutely a success but whiskeyleaks had almost nothing to do with it. He might have given the order but it was the officer and soldiers under his command who carried it out who were responsible for the success.

Once again, and I'm going to say this over and over again - taking the maduros was the easy part.
If you’re gonna crucify Hegseth when he had nothing to do with it, you gotta give him credit when he had nothing to do with it

The best thing is, he didn’t get it in the way

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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 10:36 am Maybe US oil companies aren't going to be that quick to take advantage of the situation ...

Big Oil doesn’t share Trump’s dream of making Venezuelan oil great again
But industry sources tell CNN that American oil executives are unlikely to dive headfirst into Venezuela for multiple reasons: The situation on the ground remains very uncertain, Venezuela’s oil industry is in shambles and Caracas has a history of seizing US oil assets.

Perhaps the biggest problem is that oil prices are too low today to justify spending the gobs of money – possibly tens of billions of dollars – that would be required to revive Venezuela’s decaying oil industry.

“The appetite for jumping into Venezuela right now is pretty low. We have no idea what the government there will look like,” one well-placed industry source told CNN on Monday. “The president’s desire is different than the industry’s. And the White House would have known that if they had communicated with the industry prior to the operation on Saturday.”
Based on what? CNN just gave an opinion piece with no named industry sources.

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 4:15 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 3:21 pm
The operation was absolutely a success but whiskeyleaks had almost nothing to do with it. He might have given the order but it was the officer and soldiers under his command who carried it out who were responsible for the success.

Once again, and I'm going to say this over and over again - taking the maduros was the easy part.
If you’re gonna crucify Hegseth when he had nothing to do with it, you gotta give him credit when he had nothing to do with it

The best thing is, he didn’t get it in the way

The soldiers appreciate that
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When did I crucify whiskeyleaks when he had nothing to do with it?
  • He absolutely had something to do with Signalgate and the Pentagon Inspector General confirmed it.
  • He absolutely had something to do with the witch hunt against Senator Kelly for releasing a video telling troops to disobey illegal orderd (which whiskeyleaks himself also did in 2016, when is he going to demote himself?).
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He's not a massive hypocrite because? He has dementia?
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 4:51 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 4:15 pm

If you’re gonna crucify Hegseth when he had nothing to do with it, you gotta give him credit when he had nothing to do with it

The best thing is, he didn’t get it in the way

The soldiers appreciate that
:dunce:

When did I crucify whiskeyleaks when he had nothing to do with it?
  • He absolutely had something to do with Signalgate and the Pentagon Inspector General confirmed it.
  • He absolutely had something to do with the witch hunt against Senator Kelly for releasing a video telling troops to disobey illegal orderd (which whiskeyleaks himself also did in 2016, when is he going to demote himself?).
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 8:53 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 4:51 pm

:dunce:

When did I crucify whiskeyleaks when he had nothing to do with it?
  • He absolutely had something to do with Signalgate and the Pentagon Inspector General confirmed it.
  • He absolutely had something to do with the witch hunt against Senator Kelly for releasing a video telling troops to disobey illegal orderd (which whiskeyleaks himself also did in 2016, when is he going to demote himself?).
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Those are actually funny
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 9:11 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 8:53 pm

Who is Whiskeyleaks
Your Alzheimer's is catching up with you ...
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Oct 15, 2025 4:55 am

Those are actually funny
:D
Just wanted to get you on record for admitting to crucifying whiskeyleaks and others with your demeaning and mean and insensitive Knicknames

Remember when Granny publicly scolded you for it :lol:
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 9:21 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 9:11 pm
Your Alzheimer's is catching up with you ...

:D
Just wanted to get you on record for admitting to crucifying whiskeyleaks and others with your demeaning and mean and insensitive Knicknames

Remember when Granny publicly scolded you for it :lol:
And you're the one who literally posted "Those are actually funny".

But you, a trump supporter are really going to go with - you're "crucifying whiskeyleaks and others with your demeaning and mean and insensitive Knicknames"?

If you ware, then what do you have to say about this buffoon who has been crucifying others with his demeaning and mean and insensitive kkknicknames?
List of nicknames

I remember when Ganny (not Granny - why are you crucifying him with your demeaning and mean and insensitive nickname?) scolded me. I took that scolding constructively because Ganny made good points (as usual).
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 10:14 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 9:21 pm

Just wanted to get you on record for admitting to crucifying whiskeyleaks and others with your demeaning and mean and insensitive Knicknames

Remember when Granny publicly scolded you for it :lol:
And you're the one who literally posted "Those are actually funny".

But you, a trump supporter are really going to go with - you're "crucifying whiskeyleaks and others with your demeaning and mean and insensitive Knicknames"?

If you ware, then what do you have to say about this buffoon who has been crucifying others with his demeaning and mean and insensitive kkknicknames?
List of nicknames

I remember when Ganny (not Granny - why are you crucifying him with your demeaning and mean and insensitive nickname?) scolded me. I took that scolding constructively because Ganny made good points (as usual).
Do you use the sarcasm emoji all the time because you don’t get sarcasm…

For the record, I have never needed your sarcasm emoji to know when you’re being sarcastic

I get it

Why don’t you ?
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 7:12 pm

He's not a massive hypocrite because? He has dementia?
So does every Democrat have dementia? Or just textbook TDS

From Fetterman- no one can dispute or argue against this.

Less than a year ago, President Biden upped the Maduro bounty to $25,000,000. Removing Maduro was positive for Venezuela. As a Democrat, I don’t understand why we can’t acknowledge a good development for Venezuelans—and how deft our military’s execution of that plan was.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 5:32 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 7:12 pm

He's not a massive hypocrite because? He has dementia?
So does every Democrat have dementia? Or just textbook TDS

From Fetterman- no one can dispute or argue against this.

Less than a year ago, President Biden upped the Maduro bounty to $25,000,000. Removing Maduro was positive for Venezuela. As a Democrat, I don’t understand why we can’t acknowledge a good development for Venezuelans—and how deft our military’s execution of that plan was.
It's his own words from the past contradicting what he's saying now. He's a hypocrite or he has dementia (or both).
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 5:00 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 10:14 pm

And you're the one who literally posted "Those are actually funny".

But you, a trump supporter are really going to go with - you're "crucifying whiskeyleaks and others with your demeaning and mean and insensitive Knicknames"?

If you ware, then what do you have to say about this buffoon who has been crucifying others with his demeaning and mean and insensitive kkknicknames?
List of nicknames

I remember when Ganny (not Granny - why are you crucifying him with your demeaning and mean and insensitive nickname?) scolded me. I took that scolding constructively because Ganny made good points (as usual).
Do you use the sarcasm emoji all the time because you don’t get sarcasm…

For the record, I have never needed your sarcasm emoji to know when you’re being sarcastic

I get it

Why don’t you ?
What are you talking about? I didn't use a sarcasm emoji.

Do you make up sh!t in your head that you think I posted and then respond to that like SG does? I have a cranial real estate empire going here.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 8:50 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 5:00 am

Do you use the sarcasm emoji all the time because you don’t get sarcasm…

For the record, I have never needed your sarcasm emoji to know when you’re being sarcastic

I get it

Why don’t you ?
What are you talking about? I didn't use a sarcasm emoji.

Do you make up sh!t in your head that you think I posted and then respond to that like SG does? I have a cranial real estate empire going here.
I’m talking about you don’t get sarcasm :lol:

Then you ramble on like LZ
On and on like you were down in Jamaica
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