2025 and Beyond Domestic Rightist Violence Thread

[Gil Dobie]

Tragedy that the left is telling people that obstructing justice is protesting, and people are defending bad choices. Walz and Frey are pouring kerosene on the fire. There are a lot of great Somolis in Minnesota, ICE is looking for illegals of any culture. The protesters and politicians are making it worse than it should be. That is what lead to this loss of life.

[UNI88]

Tragedy that the left is telling people that obstructing justice is protesting, and people are defending bad choices. Walz and Frey are pouring kerosene on the fire. There are a lot of great Somolis in Minnesota, ICE is looking for illegals of any culture. The protesters and politicians are making it worse than it should be. That is what lead to this loss of life.

It's no less fair to say the agent used excessive force then to say the woman was obstructing police.

trump, kos-play kristi, etc. are also pouring kerosene on the fire.

ICE may or may not be "looking for illegals of any culture" but they are certainly and admittedly targeting certain cultures.

The politicians making it worse than it should be include trump, kos-play kristi, baldemort, etc.

I actually agree with homan on this one ...

“The investigation has just started,” said Homan after CBS Evening News host Tony Dokoupil asked the border czar to respond to a video of the shooting. “I’m not gonna make a judgment call on one video when there’s a hundred videos out there. I wasn’t on the scene, I’m not an officer that may have bodycam video. It’d be unprofessional to comment on what I think happened in that situation. Let the investigation play out and hold people accountable based on the investigation.”
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“What good is it to do right now to pre-judge the facts of what happened without giving law enforcement professionals, whether it’s the FBI or the local police there, give them time to look at all the videos, talk to all of the witnesses, talk to the officers, and make an educated decision on what occurred today?”

He concluded, “That’s what needs to happen. I’ve been a cop since 1984, and it’s a process we must go through.”

Tom Homan Wants No Part of Kristi Noem’s Conclusion About ICE Shooting: ‘Let the Investigation Play Out’

[kalm]

Tragedy that the left is telling people that obstructing justice is protesting, and people are defending bad choices. Walz and Frey are pouring kerosene on the fire. There are a lot of great Somolis in Minnesota, ICE is looking for illegals of any culture. The protesters and politicians are making it worse than it should be. That is what lead to this loss of life.

This a bad take, Gil.

[kalm]

[Gil Dobie]

Tragedy that the left is telling people that obstructing justice is protesting, and people are defending bad choices. Walz and Frey are pouring kerosene on the fire. There are a lot of great Somolis in Minnesota, ICE is looking for illegals of any culture. The protesters and politicians are making it worse than it should be. That is what lead to this loss of life.

This a bad take, Gil.

You don't live here, how do you know?

[Gil Dobie]

Tragedy that the left is telling people that obstructing justice is protesting, and people are defending bad choices. Walz and Frey are pouring kerosene on the fire. There are a lot of great Somolis in Minnesota, ICE is looking for illegals of any culture. The protesters and politicians are making it worse than it should be. That is what lead to this loss of life.

It's no less fair to say the agent used excessive force then to say the woman was obstructing police.

trump, kos-play kristi, etc. are also pouring kerosene on the fire.

ICE may or may not be "looking for illegals of any culture" but they are certainly and admittedly targeting certain cultures.

The politicians making it worse than it should be include trump, kos-play kristi, baldemort, etc.

I actually agree with homan on this one ...

“The investigation has just started,” said Homan after CBS Evening News host Tony Dokoupil asked the border czar to respond to a video of the shooting. “I’m not gonna make a judgment call on one video when there’s a hundred videos out there. I wasn’t on the scene, I’m not an officer that may have bodycam video. It’d be unprofessional to comment on what I think happened in that situation. Let the investigation play out and hold people accountable based on the investigation.”
...
“What good is it to do right now to pre-judge the facts of what happened without giving law enforcement professionals, whether it’s the FBI or the local police there, give them time to look at all the videos, talk to all of the witnesses, talk to the officers, and make an educated decision on what occurred today?”

He concluded, “That’s what needs to happen. I’ve been a cop since 1984, and it’s a process we must go through.”

Tom Homan Wants No Part of Kristi Noem’s Conclusion About ICE Shooting: ‘Let the Investigation Play Out’

So it's ok to disobey a law enforcement officer after they were told to get out several times?

I would not have tried to drive away. I wouldn't even be in the area.

[Baldy]

It's no less fair to say the agent used excessive force then to say the woman was obstructing police.

trump, kos-play kristi, etc. are also pouring kerosene on the fire.

ICE may or may not be "looking for illegals of any culture" but they are certainly and admittedly targeting certain cultures.

The politicians making it worse than it should be include trump, kos-play kristi, baldemort, etc.

I actually agree with homan on this one ...



Tom Homan Wants No Part of Kristi Noem’s Conclusion About ICE Shooting: ‘Let the Investigation Play Out’

So it's ok to disobey a law enforcement officer after they were told to get out several times?

I would not have tried to drive away. I wouldn't even be in the area.

If you put yourself in a situation you have absolutely no business being in, things like this will happen.

I'm with Homan and waiting for the investigation to play out. However, listening to some of the witness statements, it seems she was the driver of the lead vehicle on this idiotic blockade they were trying to pull on the ICE agents. Bad things are likely to happen when you're in a place you should not be doing things you shouldn't be doing.

[Caribbean Hen]

Tragedy that the left is telling people that obstructing justice is protesting, and people are defending bad choices. Walz and Frey are pouring kerosene on the fire. There are a lot of great Somolis in Minnesota, ICE is looking for illegals of any culture. The protesters and politicians are making it worse than it should be. That is what lead to this loss of life.

Exactly

TDS 88 and Klamdami believe that a fisherman is allowed to go fishing, but if he actually put a fishing pole in the water, it is targeting fish and racist against fish ….

These hysterical politicians in Minnesota are definitely making it worse and are crossing the line with their violent and dangerous rhetoric. Remember when Clinton and Obama were deporting people and saying the same things normal people say today, Dems were totally fine with it.

ICE needs to be allowed to do their job without these violent hecklers and paid protesters impeding law-enforcement

[BDKJMU]

To stop a vehicle they MUST have reasonable cause to believe it contains an undocumented immigrant.

Not if the driver of the vehicle is actively obstructing their enforcement operations.

And there’s no such thing as ‘undocumented immigrant’

[Baldy]

To stop a vehicle they MUST have reasonable cause to believe it contains an undocumented immigrant.

Not if the driver of the vehicle is actively obstructing their enforcement operations.

And there’s no such thing as ‘undocumented immigrant’

Read the thread from that idiot's post. Poor dude is getting cooked.

[kalm]

To stop a vehicle they MUST have reasonable cause to believe it contains an undocumented immigrant.

Not if the driver of the vehicle is actively obstructing their enforcement operations.

And there’s no such thing as ‘undocumented immigrant’

The longer clip shows her trying to pull out, then waving another car and an ICE truck through. Do you have something that shows her intentionally obstructing ICE?

[UNI88]

So it's ok to disobey a law enforcement officer after they were told to get out several times?

I would not have tried to drive away. I wouldn't even be in the area.

If you put yourself in a situation you have absolutely no business being in, things like this will happen.

I'm with Homan and waiting for the investigation to play out. However, listening to some of the witness statements, it seems she was the driver of the lead vehicle on this idiotic blockade they were trying to pull on the ICE agents. Bad things are likely to happen when you're in a place you should not be doing things you shouldn't be doing.

Did she put herself in a dangerous situation? Yes.

Did she deserve to die because of it? No.

Was the ICE agent's life threatened? Questionable.

Are the people justifying or worse crowing about this who bitched about ashli babbitt's death hypocrites? Yes. The LEO who shot babbitt had greater justification to shoot.

[Caribbean Hen]

If you put yourself in a situation you have absolutely no business being in, things like this will happen.

I'm with Homan and waiting for the investigation to play out. However, listening to some of the witness statements, it seems she was the driver of the lead vehicle on this idiotic blockade they were trying to pull on the ICE agents. Bad things are likely to happen when you're in a place you should not be doing things you shouldn't be doing.

Did she put herself in a dangerous situation? Yes.

Did she deserve to die because of it? No.

Was the ICE agent's life threatened? Questionable.

Are the people justifying or worse crowing about this who bitched about ashli babbitt's death hypocrites? Yes. The LEO who shot babbitt had greater justification to shoot.

Babbitt murder was silenced, the average American knows nothing about it
she was doing stupid things and the right saw it for what it was, therefore no big protests about it

The lady that was shot and killed yesterday was also doing stupid things, the reaction to it is totally different

It’s a lesson in how unhinged and radical the mentally diseased and violent left has become

[kalm]

Did she put herself in a dangerous situation? Yes.

Did she deserve to die because of it? No.

Was the ICE agent's life threatened? Questionable.

Are the people justifying or worse crowing about this who bitched about ashli babbitt's death hypocrites? Yes. The LEO who shot babbitt had greater justification to shoot.

Babbitt murder was silenced, the average American knows nothing about it
she was doing stupid things and the right saw it for what it was, therefore no big protests about it

The lady that was shot and killed yesterday was also doing stupid things, the reaction to it is totally different

It’s a lesson in how unhinged and radical the mentally diseased and violent left has become

[UNI88]

Did she put herself in a dangerous situation? Yes.

Did she deserve to die because of it? No.

Was the ICE agent's life threatened? Questionable.

Are the people justifying or worse crowing about this who bitched about ashli babbitt's death hypocrites? Yes. The LEO who shot babbitt had greater justification to shoot.

Babbitt murder was silenced, the average American knows nothing about it
she was doing stupid things and the right saw it for what it was, therefore no big protests about it

The lady that was shot and killed yesterday was also doing stupid things, the reaction to it is totally different

It’s a lesson in how unhinged and radical the mentally diseased and violent left has become

trump on ashli babbitt:

• “The person that shot Ashli Babbitt — boom, right through the head — just boom — there was no reason for that.”
• “We must all demand justice for Ashli and her family… I offer my unwavering support to Ashli’s family and call on the Department of Justice to reopen its investigation into her death on Jan. 6.”
• “Who was the person that shot an innocent, wonderful, incredible woman, a military woman?”
• “Ashli Babbitt’s mother was arrested yesterday because she was protesting the death of her daughter being shot by a lunatic.”
• “ASHLI BABBITT WAS MURDERED!!!”

His DoJ gave her family almost $5 million.

This is a lesson in how unhinged and radical the mentally diseased and violent trump and the right have become.

[BDKJMU]

If you put yourself in a situation you have absolutely no business being in, things like this will happen.

I'm with Homan and waiting for the investigation to play out. However, listening to some of the witness statements, it seems she was the driver of the lead vehicle on this idiotic blockade they were trying to pull on the ICE agents. Bad things are likely to happen when you're in a place you should not be doing things you shouldn't be doing.

Did she put herself in a dangerous situation? Yes.

Did she deserve to die because of it? No.

Was the ICE agent's life threatened? Questionable.

Are the people justifying or worse crowing about this who bitched about ashli babbitt's death hypocrites? Yes. The LEO who shot babbitt had greater justification to shoot.

Lol the ICE agent had 100x the justification to shoot the lunatic leftist in the SUV. Lt Byrd faced ZERO threat front the unarmed Babbitt. Neither did anyone around Babbitt face a threat from her.

[kalm]

Did she put herself in a dangerous situation? Yes.

Did she deserve to die because of it? No.

Was the ICE agent's life threatened? Questionable.

Are the people justifying or worse crowing about this who bitched about ashli babbitt's death hypocrites? Yes. The LEO who shot babbitt had greater justification to shoot.

Lol the ICE agent had 100x the justification to shoot the lunatic leftist in the SUV. Lt Byrd faced ZERO threat front the unarmed Babbitt. Neither did anyone around Babbitt face a threat from her.

There it is…

[kalm]

Quick to jump to conclusions, dishonest, or just plain old stupid?

[kalm]

A fair and honest assessment of all the video. (For those who care about reality)

[UNI88]

Did she put herself in a dangerous situation? Yes.

Did she deserve to die because of it? No.

Was the ICE agent's life threatened? Questionable.

Are the people justifying or worse crowing about this who bitched about ashli babbitt's death hypocrites? Yes. The LEO who shot babbitt had greater justification to shoot.

Lol the ICE agent had 100x the justification to shoot the lunatic leftist in the SUV. Lt Byrd faced ZERO threat front the unarmed Babbitt. Neither did anyone around Babbitt face a threat from her.

CH said babbitt "was doing stupid things and the right saw it for what it was" and you and trump had to go and prove him wrong.

babbitt was in the building. She was going toward the LEO. The situation had already escalated and violence was already occurring before he fired his weapon.

Good appeared to be attempting to leave the area. The LEO appeared to chase after her and fire 2 of the shots into the side of her car as she was driving away. The situation had not yet escalated until he fired his weapon.

I thought MAQA: 1) backed the blue and 2) supported stand your ground. Do you only do those selectively? i.e. when they're used against the left or minorities?

[UNI88]

A fair and honest assessment of all the video. (For those who care about reality)

People can argue whether the agent was in the way. I think it will be litigated and we'll see what the courts say.

But:
- Not allowing a physician to assist the person who was shot?
- Leaving the scene, thereby altering it? I don't think that's related to their "federal duties".

This doesn't look good for ICE and while MAQA might lap it up I don't think it will play well with the moderate/independent voter.

This incident increases the chances that trump gets impeached in 2027.

[Gil Dobie]

Lol the ICE agent had 100x the justification to shoot the lunatic leftist in the SUV. Lt Byrd faced ZERO threat front the unarmed Babbitt. Neither did anyone around Babbitt face a threat from her.

CH said babbitt "was doing stupid things and the right saw it for what it was" and you and trump had to go and prove him wrong.

babbitt was in the building. She was going toward the LEO. The situation had already escalated and violence was already occurring before he fired his weapon.

Good appeared to be attempting to leave the area. The LEO appeared to chase after her and fire 2 of the shots into the side of her car as she was driving away. The situation had not yet escalated until he fired his weapon.

I thought MAQA: 1) backed the blue and 2) supported stand your ground. Do you only do those selectively? i.e. when they're used against the left or minorities?

The officer that was in the front of Goods vehicle shot thru the windshield after Good accelerated towards him. The guy trying to get her out of the side did not shoot.

[Baldy]

If you put yourself in a situation you have absolutely no business being in, things like this will happen.

I'm with Homan and waiting for the investigation to play out. However, listening to some of the witness statements, it seems she was the driver of the lead vehicle on this idiotic blockade they were trying to pull on the ICE agents. Bad things are likely to happen when you're in a place you should not be doing things you shouldn't be doing.

Did she put herself in a dangerous situation? Yes.

Did she deserve to die because of it? No.

Was the ICE agent's life threatened? Questionable.

Are the people justifying or worse crowing about this who bitched about ashli babbitt's death hypocrites? Yes. The LEO who shot babbitt had greater justification to shoot.

Did Ashley Babbitt deserve to die?

Do you actually think Michael Byrd was justified in killing Ashley Babbitt?

If he was justified in killing an unarmed trespasser to the Capitol, could this ICE agent be justified in shooting this protestor who was at the wheel of a 5,000 lb deadly weapon that was pointed directly at him?

[UNI88]

CH said babbitt "was doing stupid things and the right saw it for what it was" and you and trump had to go and prove him wrong.

babbitt was in the building. She was going toward the LEO. The situation had already escalated and violence was already occurring before he fired his weapon.

Good appeared to be attempting to leave the area. The LEO appeared to chase after her and fire 2 of the shots into the side of her car as she was driving away. The situation had not yet escalated until he fired his weapon.

I thought MAQA: 1) backed the blue and 2) supported stand your ground. Do you only do those selectively? i.e. when they're used against the left or minorities?

The officer that was in the front of Goods vehicle shot thru the windshield after Good accelerated towards him. The guy trying to get her out of the side did not shoot.

Gil, watch the videos - the same "officer that was in the front of Goods vehicle shot thru the windshield" then "appeared to chase after her and fire 2 of the shots into the side of her car as she was driving away."

You might be able to argue that the first shot was in self defense (the courts will need to figure that out). But you're going to have a hard time convincing me that the subsequent shots were in self defense.

I'd like to have CID's take on this.

[BDKJMU]

Tragedy that the left is telling people that obstructing justice is protesting, and people are defending bad choices. Walz and Frey are pouring kerosene on the fire. There are a lot of great Somolis in Minnesota, ICE is looking for illegals of any culture. The protesters and politicians are making it worse than it should be. That is what lead to this loss of life.

This a bad take, Gil.

That’s actually a very good take.