2025 and Beyond Domestic Rightist Violence Thread

[BDKJMU]

No other video shows her car going from reverse to moving forward that fast.

Why does that video "appear" to be intentionally sped up? Maybe because it makes it look even more like he got hit? Would it be less effective in doing that if it were at actual speed or slow-motion?

You keep posting videos that show what you want to believe. Are you ignoring ones that cast doubt on it.

The car isn't reversing in that video clip.

I'm posting videos that show the officer was hit by the car. Are you really still trying to say the car didnt hit him?Really???

Even Jacob Frey has changed his tune and is now saying...we'll he didn't get hit that hard.

QUNI88 and Klamdani are going to die on that hill.

[kalm]

The car isn't reversing in that video clip.

I'm posting videos that show the officer was hit by the car. Are you really still trying to say the car didnt hit him?Really???

Even Jacob Frey has changed his tune and is now saying...we'll he didn't get hit that hard.

QUNI88 and Klamdani are going to die on that hill.

Still not a conclusive angle nor clear evidence that his life was threatened. Bro needs to up his video game while he’s murdering people.

The only hill is stood on by MAGA, surrounded by every non-maga affiliated expert and rational person.

[kalm]

[BDKJMU]

Maybe the ‘wife’ should have kept her mouth shut.

"You want to come at us? I say go get yourself some lunch, big boy. Go ahead."..

.."Drive, baby. Drive."

[UNI88]

Maybe the ‘wife’ should have kept her mouth shut.

"You want to come at us? I say go get yourself some lunch, big boy. Go ahead."..

.."Drive, baby. Drive."

I wonder what people would find if they dredged up some of the crap spewed by the 1,500 or so seditious January 6 traitors?

Or people could just say she was trolling MAQA like you do (sub libs for MAQA for the slow witted) when trump says stuff that in hindsight is dumber than a box of rocks.

Or we could mourn the tragic death of the mother of 3 children and look for ways to de-escalate the situation.



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[Caribbean Hen]

When she backed up, it put her on a direct path with the officer. Watch the video.

This is NOT a good look.

Yes. And then turned her tires away from him as moved to the side. He should never been in front of the vehicle to begin with.

Stop

That’s like saying the girl that got raped should not have been wearing provocative clothing

[Caribbean Hen]

“The Goods had no love lost for President Trump themselves, leaving their Kansas City, Missouri, neighborhood for Canada after the 2024 election with plans to leave the country for good.

They lived in the Great White North for a few months before settling in Minneapolis, a former neighbor told KMBC”

So what? The Goods are entitled to their opinion just like you are entitled to have no love lost for President biden. That doesn't make you a bad person and this doesn't make Good a bad person.

This kind of innuendo might play well with the MAQA base but the majority of America shrugs their shoulders.

Stop babbling

I was actually complimenting Good on being true to her word on going to Canada after the 24 election… at least according to a neighbor

[Caribbean Hen]

Flapping in the breeze

Where does it say in the constitution that you’re allowed to impede a law-enforcement operation without being guilty of a crime yourself?

You're one of the people who is okay with these changes, the majority of Americans disagree with you.

Let's review the ICE Protesters tactics for legality (IMO):

1. Legal (protected) protest activities
   • Chanting, holding signs, and slogans
   • Protesting outside ICE/CBP facilities on public sidewalks or parks
   • Demonstrating near—but not blocking—facilities or entrances
   • Photographing or filming ICE/CBP agents in public spaces
   • Yelling at officers or expressing dissent verbally
   • Blowing whistles to alert people that ICE/CBP is in the area
   • Honking horns to signal or warn (not continuously or violating traffic/noise laws)
   • Informing people of their rights in general terms (e.g., right to remain silent, right to a lawyer)
     
     Protected under: First Amendment (speech, assembly, petition)
2. Risky but sometimes lawful
   • Surrounding ICE vehicles without blocking movement
   • Standing close to officers while shouting
   • Following officers at a distance
     
     Legal if they do not physically impede the officers or specific enforcement action, but they carry higher risk of arrest, especially if law enforcement interprets the actions as interference.
3. Illegal protest activities (obstructive or criminal)
   
   • Blocking entrances/exits to ICE facilities
   • Blocking roads used by ICE vehicles
   • Surrounding vehicles to prevent movement
   • Interfering with arrests or detentions
   • Grabbing officers, equipment, or detainees
   • Pulling someone away from officers
   • Creating diversions to stop an arrest
   • Harboring or aiding someone to evade law enforcement
   • Property damage or vandalism

Much of what the protesters have done is criminal, some is not but I have no problem with them being arrested charged.

Do you have a problem with ICE/CBP agents who use excessive force, and I admit that this perception built on false narrative is completely overblown by the leftist media and their basement army of paid influencers who have never done one single good deed for their country, being arrested and charged? Answer the question - Yes or No.

Yes Of course, but not for this

If the ICE agent really wanted to murder the dangerous agitator, why didn’t he just shoot her the first time he walked around the car? he had a clear shot

The answer is he didn’t want too until he had too

Why was her car on the road at the angle it was ?

What had she been doing hours prior to this confrontation?
Was this her first interaction with that ICE agent? I doubt it

What difference does it make If the car actually hit him or not? it doesn’t make any difference, her actions put the officers life in danger

[SeattleGriz]

You haven't been promoting oppositional defiance against ICE?

Define oppositional defiance.

Well it's like when you act on this board as if you don't understand something, except it's acting like an asshole to law enforcement.

[SeattleGriz]

When she backed up, it put her on a direct path with the officer. Watch the video.

This is NOT a good look.

Yes. And then turned her tires away from him as moved to the side. He should never been in front of the vehicle to begin with.

Dude, just give it up. This is your Covington Catholic #2 moment here. Trying so hard to come up with anything to excuse unexcusable behavior that got a dipshit killed. The shit you cheer on.

If you're upset about anything, be upset at the gals partner who screamed at her to "Drive! Drive!" when their ICE group tactic failed.

[Gil Dobie]

If you are breaking the law you need to take responsibility for your actions. I don't care what your job or affiliation is.

Except if your President or the cast of 1000’s he’s pardoned. Did you vote for him Gil?

No I didn't vote Trump or Harris. If you are breaking the law, you are breaking the law.

[kalm]

Yes. And then turned her tires away from him as moved to the side. He should never been in front of the vehicle to begin with.

Stop

That’s like saying the girl that got raped should not have been wearing provocative clothing

It’s literally a part of LE training and he’s a 10 year vet of the service so…

Stop what? Pointing out facts?

[kalm]

Define oppositional defiance.

Well it's like when you act on this board as if you don't understand something, except it's acting like an asshole to law enforcement.

Is acting like an asshole a capital offense?

[kalm]

Except if your President or the cast of 1000’s he’s pardoned. Did you vote for him Gil?

No I didn't vote Trump or Harris. If you are breaking the law, you are breaking the law.

Good for you, Gil. Voting your convictions in a broken two party system is a noble thing.

So you must have a problem with Trump and this ICE agent then?

[kalm]

Yes. And then turned her tires away from him as moved to the side. He should never been in front of the vehicle to begin with.

Dude, just give it up. This is your Covington Catholic #2 moment here. Trying so hard to come up with anything to excuse unexcusable behavior that got a dipshit killed. The shit you cheer on.

If you're upset about anything, be upset at the gals partner who screamed at her to "Drive! Drive!" when their ICE group tactic failed.

Both of my points are unassailable facts.

She was turning away from him as she started forward. Regardless of whether he was aware of it or not. This is quite obvious in all of the videos.

Avoiding the front and rear of a 5,000 lb vehicle is basic LE training. For rather obvious reasons. His negligence at the very least played a role in her death.

ICE group tactics are only necessary due to ICE being there and the tactics they use. Still not a capital offense.

This is your climate change, Covid, Christianity moment 687 here.

[Gil Dobie]

No I didn't vote Trump or Harris. If you are breaking the law, you are breaking the law.

Good for you, Gil. Voting your convictions in a broken two party system is a noble thing.

So you must have a problem with Trump and this ICE agent then?

I don't have a problem with law enforcement. They have always treated me as I would expect to be treated. ICE is going after lawbreakers and wading thru protesters.

Of course there are a few bad apples in every group, but law enforcement has been good to me.

[kalm]

Good for you, Gil. Voting your convictions in a broken two party system is a noble thing.

So you must have a problem with Trump and this ICE agent then?

I don't have a problem with law enforcement. They have always treated me as I would expect to be treated. ICE is going after lawbreakers and wading thru protesters.

Of course there are a few bad apples in every group, but law enforcement has been good to me.

They’ve been great to me, Gil but wholly anecdotal! There’s a metric crap ton of video evidence showing ICE acting like thugs. There are hundreds of US citizens who have been detained and even some jailed mistakenly. There are a number of judges who have pointed to ICE and DHS being untruthful.

ICE is not the same law enforcement that you and I have dealt with. They are a rogue organization that continuously displays a lack of training and conflict resolution.

[kalm]

Our elite forces…

[Gil Dobie]

I don't have a problem with law enforcement. They have always treated me as I would expect to be treated. ICE is going after lawbreakers and wading thru protesters.

Of course there are a few bad apples in every group, but law enforcement has been good to me.

They’ve been great to me, Gil but wholly anecdotal! There’s a metric crap ton of video evidence showing ICE acting like thugs. There are hundreds of US citizens who have been detained and even some jailed mistakenly. There are a number of judges who have pointed to ICE and DHS being untruthful.

ICE is not the same law enforcement that you and I have dealt with. They are a rogue organization that continuously displays a lack of training and conflict resolution.

Living a mile from Canada for a good portion of my life, I've dealt with border patrol and customs/immigration. If you respect them, they respect you. You piss them off, you might get the rubber glove treatment and a stripped-down car. I've been thoroughly searched by the RCMP in Canada as they have can pull you over for no reason. I've also be detained at the border for an hour with my young daughter. They wanted to verify I wasn't a kidnapper. I've also been thru the border with a big-time baseball card buyer and $100,000 with us. I told him not to talk back to the border agents.

[UNI88]

They’ve been great to me, Gil but wholly anecdotal! There’s a metric crap ton of video evidence showing ICE acting like thugs. There are hundreds of US citizens who have been detained and even some jailed mistakenly. There are a number of judges who have pointed to ICE and DHS being untruthful.

ICE is not the same law enforcement that you and I have dealt with. They are a rogue organization that continuously displays a lack of training and conflict resolution.

Living a mile from Canada for a good portion of my life, I've dealt with border patrol and customs/immigration. If you respect them, they respect you. You piss them off, you might get the rubber glove treatment and a stripped-down car. I've been thoroughly searched by the RCMP in Canada as they have can pull you over for no reason. I've also be detained at the border for an hour with my young daughter. They wanted to verify I wasn't a kidnapper. I've also been thru the border with a big-time baseball card buyer and $100,000 with us. I told him not to talk back to the border agents.

What did this pastor do that justified the immigration agents shooting him in the head with a pepper ball?




Or how about these examples of force against protesters?




Or using tear gas near a kid's Halloween parade?




Or here they are grabbing, dropping and dragging a blind, disabled protester




These are just some examples of what's been caught on video. There are more and I wonder what's happened that hasn't been captured on video.

These are the kinds of tactics that are turning the American people against ICE/CBP.

[Gil Dobie]

Living a mile from Canada for a good portion of my life, I've dealt with border patrol and customs/immigration. If you respect them, they respect you. You piss them off, you might get the rubber glove treatment and a stripped-down car. I've been thoroughly searched by the RCMP in Canada as they have can pull you over for no reason. I've also be detained at the border for an hour with my young daughter. They wanted to verify I wasn't a kidnapper. I've also been thru the border with a big-time baseball card buyer and $100,000 with us. I told him not to talk back to the border agents.

What did this pastor do that justified the immigration agents shooting him in the head with a pepper ball?




Or how about these examples of force against protesters?




Or using tear gas near a kid's Halloween parade?




Or here they are grabbing, dropping and dragging a blind, disabled protester




These are just some examples of what's been caught on video. There are more and I wonder what's happened that hasn't been captured on video.

These are the kinds of tactics that are turning the American people against ICE/CBP.

I haven't looked into any of these. Most people already have their minds made up about ICE due to party affiliation.

[UNI88]

What did this pastor do that justified the immigration agents shooting him in the head with a pepper ball?




Or how about these examples of force against protesters?




Or using tear gas near a kid's Halloween parade?




Or here they are grabbing, dropping and dragging a blind, disabled protester




These are just some examples of what's been caught on video. There are more and I wonder what's happened that hasn't been captured on video.

These are the kinds of tactics that are turning the American people against ICE/CBP.

I haven't looked into any of these. Most people already have their minds made up about ICE due to party affiliation.

I'm a libertarian, not a Democrat or a Republican. I have friends who are or were LEOs. I have tremendous respect for law enforcement. I've worked with officials to increase funding for local law enforcement and to monitor how that funding is spent.

But I've seen too many instances of ICE/CBP agents taking things too far. Living in Portland, I've also appreciated how the community has responded to ICE - with humor and resilience. They've dressed in costumes (the Portland Frog), done yoga, had prayer groups, etc.

[Caribbean Hen]

QUNI88 and Klamdani are going to die on that hill.

Still not a conclusive angle nor clear evidence that his life was threatened. Bro needs to up his video game while he’s murdering people.

The only hill is stood on by MAGA, surrounded by every non-maga affiliated expert and rational person.

Why would the troublemaker say “I’m not mad”

Curious to know if these two had interacted in the past or even earlier that day

[BDKJMU]

Dude, just give it up. This is your Covington Catholic #2 moment here. Trying so hard to come up with anything to excuse unexcusable behavior that got a dipshit killed. The shit you cheer on.

If you're upset about anything, be upset at the gals partner who screamed at her to "Drive! Drive!" when their ICE group tactic failed.

Both of my points are unassailable facts.

She was turning away from him as she started forward. Regardless of whether he was aware of it or not. This is quite obvious in all of the videos.

Avoiding the front and rear of a 5,000 lb vehicle is basic LE training. For rather obvious reasons. His negligence at the very least played a role in her death.

ICE group tactics are only necessary due to ICE being there and the tactics they use. Still not a capital offense.

This is your climate change, Covid, Christianity moment 687 here.

‘ICE Watch’ tactics are zero % necessary. They only use them to follow around and obstruct ICE from conducting immigration enforcement. If these deranged liberal white women don’t follow around and obstruct ICE, they have no need for ‘tactics’.

[UNI88]

Both of my points are unassailable facts.

She was turning away from him as she started forward. Regardless of whether he was aware of it or not. This is quite obvious in all of the videos.

Avoiding the front and rear of a 5,000 lb vehicle is basic LE training. For rather obvious reasons. His negligence at the very least played a role in her death.

ICE group tactics are only necessary due to ICE being there and the tactics they use. Still not a capital offense.

This is your climate change, Covid, Christianity moment 687 here.

‘ICE Watch’ tactics are zero % necessary. They only use them to follow around and obstruct ICE from conducting immigration enforcement. If these deranged liberal white women don’t follow around and obstruct ICE, they have no need for ‘tactics’.

Following ICE, blowing whistles, honking horns, etc. is not obstruction.