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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 1:50 pm
UNI88 wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 8:54 am
Gil, here's some more info on why regular citizens and not just "agitators" are pushing back against CBP/ICE ...

The Trump Administration Says It's Illegal To Record Videos of ICE. Here's What the Law Says.
The headline is BS because it claims that the Trump admin stated that the simple act of videotaping is illegal. They didn’t, because it isn’t. They are quoted as saying:
Noem said, "Violence is anything that threatens them and their safety, so it is doxing them, it's videotaping them where they're at when they're out on operations, encouraging other people to come and to throw things, rocks, bottles."…

…McLaughlin called "videotaping ICE law enforcement and posting photos and videos of them online" a form of doxing.
The act of videotaping to doxx and or incite obstruction or violence is illegal.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/119
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/115
The act of videotaping isn't illegal and just posting a video/photo online by itself isn't doxing. It becomes doxing when they actually identify agents' personal information (real name, home address, phone number, etc.). DHS can charge them after they post the photos/videos with the doxing info.

They can't use the possibility that someone might break the law as justification for denying them their Constitutional rights which is what it appears kos-play kristi is attempting to do. That's just fvcked up.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 8:54 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 8:37 am Have the people being deported protested to support the ICE protesters? I've only seen ICE protesters supporting ICE protesters.
Gil, here's some more info on why regular citizens and not just "agitators" are pushing back against CBP/ICE ...

The Trump Administration Says It's Illegal To Record Videos of ICE. Here's What the Law Says.
"Similarly, [U.S. Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Greg] Bovino testified that he has instructed his officers to arrest protesters who make hyperbolic comments in the heat of political demonstrations, even though such statements—which do not constitute true threats—are protected speech," the motion argued. (Hott and Bovino's depositions were filed under seal, and those comments were later redacted in a corrected filing by the lawsuit plaintiffs, but not before others took screenshots of them.)

Based on voluminous evidence that feds in Chicago ignored her previous orders to curb their use of force, U.S. District Court Judge Sara Ellis issued a preliminary injunction against DHS in early November 2025, saying the government's conduct "shocked the conscience."

Ellis found much of the officials' testimony not credible. Bovino, for instance, testified that he never used force against a protester he was filmed tackling, and in another instance, Ellis said, he lied about being hit with a rock before firing tear gas at demonstrators. Nor did evidence support the government's claims that federal officers issued warnings before firing less-than-lethal projectiles at those protesters.

"Describing rapid response networks and neighborhood moms as professional agitators shows just how out of touch these agents are, and how extreme their views are," said Ellis.

The Trump administration responded by calling Ellis an "activist judge," but it is squarely wrong when it comes to recording and protesting the police. Cato Institute senior fellow Walter Olson points out that, "While the Supreme Court itself hasn't yet faced the issue squarely, the seven federal circuits that have done so…all agree that the First Amendment protects the right to record police performing their duties in public."

Likewise, federal circuits have upheld the right to use vulgar language to oppose police without fear of retaliation, and to warn others of nearby police checkpoints or speed traps.

As Olson writes, the administration's "attempt to alter reality by establishing new legal facts on the ground" ultimately serves as a green light for informal repression. "If the agents come to believe that they have blanket immunity [for] whatever they do, or that citizens have no right to record them, they are more likely to take aggressive informal action, such as grabbing phones or taking news reporters into custody on charges of obstruction (perhaps later quietly dropped)."
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Recording government agents is one of the few tools citizens have to hold state power accountable. Any attempt to redefine observation as "violence" is not only unconstitutional—it's authoritarian gaslighting. When a government fears cameras more than crimes, it isn't protecting the rule of law. It's protecting itself.
When you're on the wrong side of the Cato Institute, you're probably on the wrong side of the Constitution and freedom.
I have not seen or know of any regular citizen protesting ICE.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 5:36 pm
UNI88 wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 8:54 am

Gil, here's some more info on why regular citizens and not just "agitators" are pushing back against CBP/ICE ...

The Trump Administration Says It's Illegal To Record Videos of ICE. Here's What the Law Says.



When you're on the wrong side of the Cato Institute, you're probably on the wrong side of the Constitution and freedom.
I have not seen or know of any regular citizen protesting ICE.
Yeah, Gil. It’s all a bunch of weirdos. Probably drink wine, fall in love with a same sex partner, and still listen to Rage Against The Machine.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 5:36 pm
UNI88 wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 8:54 am
Gil, here's some more info on why regular citizens and not just "agitators" are pushing back against CBP/ICE ...

The Trump Administration Says It's Illegal To Record Videos of ICE. Here's What the Law Says.


When you're on the wrong side of the Cato Institute, you're probably on the wrong side of the Constitution and freedom.
I have not seen or know of any regular citizen protesting ICE.
Look at the lies that Judge Ellis caught the CBP/ICE agents telling that was contradicted by video evidence above.

I know a few people who went to protest at the ICE facility in Portland. They are not unhinged, extremist commie radicals or whatever bullsh!t label trump and MAQA want to put on them. They're regular citizens. People I could meet for dinner and drinks without a problem.

There are plenty of other examples out there of ICE/CBP agents exceeding their authority ...

Video Shows Border Patrol Threaten Legal Observer in Key Largo for Following Him
The video is another instance of federal immigration officers threatening and harassing legal observers for conduct that civil liberties groups and multiple federal circuit courts say is firmly protected First Amendment activity.

The observer and activist, a 64-year-old Key Largo man who requested that his name not be printed to avoid retaliation, tells Reason he is part of a local group that tracks federal immigration enforcement activity in the Upper Florida Keys.
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Maybe marrying your brother turns you into a serial liar.
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How can they let this violent leftist just walk away?!?

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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 5:56 pm Maybe marrying your brother turns you into a serial liar.
Did trump marry his brother (the woman driving the car was very disorderly, obstructing and resisting, who then violently, willfully, and viciously ran over the ICE Officer)?

What about kos-play kristi (“It was an act of domestic terrorism”)?
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kalm wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 5:51 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 5:36 pm

I have not seen or know of any regular citizen protesting ICE.
Yeah, Gil. It’s all a bunch of weirdos. Probably drink wine, fall in love with a same sex partner, and still listen to Rage Against The Machine.
They are politally motivated. Call them whatever names you want. The one person I knew that went to Jan 6 was politically motivated, but didn't go as far as to enter the Capitol. Those are the brainwashed partisans that I often put on Facebook timeouts, right, left or center wackadoodles.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 5:36 pm
UNI88 wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 8:54 am

Gil, here's some more info on why regular citizens and not just "agitators" are pushing back against CBP/ICE ...

The Trump Administration Says It's Illegal To Record Videos of ICE. Here's What the Law Says.



When you're on the wrong side of the Cato Institute, you're probably on the wrong side of the Constitution and freedom.
I have not seen or know of any regular citizen protesting ICE.
Well, regular citizens:
-Don’t try to follow law enforcement around to distract/interfere/obstruct with their enforcement operations.
-Honk horns incessantly when they see said law enforcement.
-Blow whistles incessantly when they see said law enforcement.
-Scream & shriek every four letter word and invective at said law enforcement from as close as they are allowed to get.
-Block their vehicles.
-Try to find out what hotels they are rumored to be in to harass everyone at the hotels.
Etc, Etc, etc.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 6:42 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 5:51 pm

Yeah, Gil. It’s all a bunch of weirdos. Probably drink wine, fall in love with a same sex partner, and still listen to Rage Against The Machine.
They are politally motivated. Call them whatever names you want. The one person I knew that went to Jan 6 was politically motivated, but didn't go as far as to enter the Capitol. Those are the brainwashed partisans that I often put on Facebook timeouts, right, left or center wackadoodles.
Gil, your example is poor. Unless your friend lived in DC and was protesting authoritarianism and federal LE over-reach. Not to mention the violence was brought by the protestors.

My sister, a mortgage underwriter has gone to protests. I know teachers who have. My sister in law who works in local TV. A friend who’s worth more money than god. All reasonable, intelligent people.

Your narrative doesn’t represent what’s happening.
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kalm wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 7:55 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 6:42 pm

They are politally motivated. Call them whatever names you want. The one person I knew that went to Jan 6 was politically motivated, but didn't go as far as to enter the Capitol. Those are the brainwashed partisans that I often put on Facebook timeouts, right, left or center wackadoodles.
Gil, your example is poor. Unless your friend lived in DC and was protesting authoritarianism and federal LE over-reach. Not to mention the violence was brought by the protestors.

My sister, a mortgage underwriter has gone to protests. I know teachers who have. My sister in law who works in local TV. A friend who’s worth more money than god. All reasonable, intelligent people.

Your narrative doesn’t represent what’s happening.
All liberal Harris voters I bet. Course you’ll claim they’re ’moderate.’
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kalm wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 7:55 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 6:42 pm

They are politally motivated. Call them whatever names you want. The one person I knew that went to Jan 6 was politically motivated, but didn't go as far as to enter the Capitol. Those are the brainwashed partisans that I often put on Facebook timeouts, right, left or center wackadoodles.
Gil, your example is poor. Unless your friend lived in DC and was protesting authoritarianism and federal LE over-reach. Not to mention the violence was brought by the protestors.

My sister, a mortgage underwriter has gone to protests. I know teachers who have. My sister in law who works in local TV. A friend who’s worth more money than god. All reasonable, intelligent people.

Your narrative doesn’t represent what’s happening.
They all are reasonable, intelligent people until we ready about them in the news. Are they politically motivated? If they didn't protest immigration prior to Trump, it's political. We just saw a poet go above and beyond the law, and what happened to her.
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 8:29 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 7:55 pm
Gil, your example is poor. Unless your friend lived in DC and was protesting authoritarianism and federal LE over-reach. Not to mention the violence was brought by the protestors.

My sister, a mortgage underwriter has gone to protests. I know teachers who have. My sister in law who works in local TV. A friend who’s worth more money than god. All reasonable, intelligent people.

Your narrative doesn’t represent what’s happening.
All liberal Harris voters I bet. Course you’ll claim they’re ’moderate.’
So what? If liberal harris voters aren't regular people then neither are MAQA trump voters.
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 8:29 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 7:55 pm

Gil, your example is poor. Unless your friend lived in DC and was protesting authoritarianism and federal LE over-reach. Not to mention the violence was brought by the protestors.

My sister, a mortgage underwriter has gone to protests. I know teachers who have. My sister in law who works in local TV. A friend who’s worth more money than god. All reasonable, intelligent people.

Your narrative doesn’t represent what’s happening.
All liberal Harris voters I bet. Course you’ll claim they’re ’moderate.’
A couple liberal voters a couple further left. You don’t realize Harris was a moderate? :?
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kalm wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 7:55 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 6:42 pm

They are politally motivated. Call them whatever names you want. The one person I knew that went to Jan 6 was politically motivated, but didn't go as far as to enter the Capitol. Those are the brainwashed partisans that I often put on Facebook timeouts, right, left or center wackadoodles.
Gil, your example is poor. Unless your friend lived in DC and was protesting authoritarianism and federal LE over-reach. Not to mention the violence was brought by the protestors.

My sister, a mortgage underwriter has gone to protests. I know teachers who have. My sister in law who works in local TV. A friend who’s worth more money than god. All reasonable, intelligent people.

Your narrative doesn’t represent what’s happening.
Why is Gils example poor? He’s just telling you the truth based on his own experience

He doesn’t sound like he has a narrative at all
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Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 8:55 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 7:55 pm

Gil, your example is poor. Unless your friend lived in DC and was protesting authoritarianism and federal LE over-reach. Not to mention the violence was brought by the protestors.

My sister, a mortgage underwriter has gone to protests. I know teachers who have. My sister in law who works in local TV. A friend who’s worth more money than god. All reasonable, intelligent people.

Your narrative doesn’t represent what’s happening.
They all are reasonable, intelligent people until we ready about them in the news. Are they politically motivated? If they didn't protest immigration prior to Trump, it's political. We just saw a poet go above and beyond the law, and what happened to her.
What are you asking with politically motivated? Are you Gil?

Why do you think they’re protesting immigration now? Perhaps they’re protesting authoritarianism, cruelty, rule of law. Again…another poor example.

We can all be hypocritical on politics, Gil. You’re just not making very good arguments here.
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kalm wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 9:58 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 8:55 pm

They all are reasonable, intelligent people until we ready about them in the news. Are they politically motivated? If they didn't protest immigration prior to Trump, it's political. We just saw a poet go above and beyond the law, and what happened to her.
What are you asking with politically motivated? Are you Gil?

Why do you think they’re protesting immigration now? Perhaps they’re protesting authoritarianism, cruelty, rule of law. Again…another poor example.

We can all be hypocritical on politics, Gil. You’re just not making very good arguments here.
Lots of em getting paid too protest
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 10:19 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 9:58 pm
What are you asking with politically motivated? Are you Gil?

Why do you think they’re protesting immigration now? Perhaps they’re protesting authoritarianism, cruelty, rule of law. Again…another poor example.

We can all be hypocritical on politics, Gil. You’re just not making very good arguments here.
Lots of em getting paid too protest
Prove it or STFU. You, trump and other MAQA yahoos keep saying but you're all hat, no cattle (just like the whole 2020 election was stolen canard).

And make sure it's proof of "Lot's of em".
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 10:33 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 10:19 pm

Lots of em getting paid too protest
Prove it or STFU. You, trump and other MAQA yahoos keep saying but you're all hat, no cattle (just like the whole 2020 election was stolen canard).

And make sure it's proof of "Lot's of em".
So you’ve already asked your close friend ?
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kalm wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 9:58 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 8:55 pm

They all are reasonable, intelligent people until we ready about them in the news. Are they politically motivated? If they didn't protest immigration prior to Trump, it's political. We just saw a poet go above and beyond the law, and what happened to her.
What are you asking with politically motivated? Are you Gil?

Why do you think they’re protesting immigration now? Perhaps they’re protesting authoritarianism, cruelty, rule of law. Again…another poor example.

We can all be hypocritical on politics, Gil. You’re just not making very good arguments here.
Sorry if you don't get the political connection. I am stating facts, not arguments. Call it what you want, it doesn't make your side look better by discounting mine.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 10:33 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 10:19 pm

Lots of em getting paid too protest
Prove it or STFU. You, trump and other MAQA yahoos keep saying but you're all hat, no cattle (just like the whole 2020 election was stolen canard).

And make sure it's proof of "Lot's of em".
Indivisible project that sponsors the Minnesota protest, had revenue of over $10 million in 2024. Mostly from nondeductible donations. They have 6 officers listed on the tax form that make over 200,000 per year from compensation and other sources not listed on the tax form. This is just a quick Google search. Where there is six there will be many getting paid.
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kalm wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 9:58 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 8:55 pm

They all are reasonable, intelligent people until we ready about them in the news. Are they politically motivated? If they didn't protest immigration prior to Trump, it's political. We just saw a poet go above and beyond the law, and what happened to her.
What are you asking with politically motivated? Are you Gil?

Why do you think they’re protesting immigration now? Perhaps they’re protesting authoritarianism, cruelty, rule of law. Again…another poor example.

We can all be hypocritical on politics, Gil. You’re just not making very good arguments here.
If it was a Democrat in the White House you would not see the ICE protest. It's basically all anti Trump. In 2008 there was a protest group every Friday anti-war, in a Twin Cities street corner I drove by every day. Obama gets elected and the protest disappeared. The protesters are not trying to help the people that need help, they are anti Trump protesters. How many have taken an immigrant into hiding or tried to have them become a citizen.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Tue Jan 13, 2026 4:53 am
kalm wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 9:58 pm

What are you asking with politically motivated? Are you Gil?

Why do you think they’re protesting immigration now? Perhaps they’re protesting authoritarianism, cruelty, rule of law. Again…another poor example.

We can all be hypocritical on politics, Gil. You’re just not making very good arguments here.
Sorry if you don't get the political connection. I am stating facts, not arguments. Call it what you want, it doesn't make your side look better by discounting mine.
“My side”? My side is the constitutionally governed, democratic, free society. What’s yours?

Posing the question “politically motivated is not stating a fact, Gil.
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