I've dealt with customs and immigration more than most people. I have one classmate, a cousin and other friends that have worked customs, immigration and border patrol. I became stricter after 9/11 for sure, but nothing really changed about you respecting them and them treating you the same in response.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 8:40 amYou don’t mess with judges either but that hasn’t stopped the DoJ or ICE/CBP.Gil Dobie wrote:
This has been the rule of law as long as I can remember. You don't mess with law enforcement.
And MAQA was telling us worse behavior than this was peaceful and no big deal 5 years ago.
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I respect law enforcement but I also expect them to respect the Constitution of the United States of America and I have little tolerance for officers/agents who don't. There are plenty of reports, videos, court cases (testimony and judicial rulings) to support claims that there are ICE and CBP agents who are violating the Constitution. I'm not making this stuff up. The evidence is there.Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 10:40 amI've dealt with customs and immigration more than most people. I have one classmate, a cousin and other friends that have worked customs, immigration and border patrol. I became stricter after 9/11 for sure, but nothing really changed about you respecting them and them treating you the same in response.
Questions that I believe are fair to ask:
- Has the trump regime changed the rules of engagement for ICE/CBP/DHS? If yes, how and why?
- What impact has the trump regime's aggressive detention and deportation targets had on agent behavior?
- How many people have ICE and CBP hired since trump took office? Has that growth been more than they could realistically handle?
- Have the new hires been given adequate training or have they been rushed into the field? Given the fact that Jonathan Ross was dragged by a car months prior to shooting Renee Good, it's fair to ask if he was rushed back to the field before he was ready?
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FAKE NEWS. Renee Good has no widow. She wasn’t legally married to that other woman.UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 19, 2026 9:51 amShow me a video. I have and will continue to condemn protesters who go too far. They should be arrested. I don't think they represent all or even the majority of protesters.Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Mon Jan 19, 2026 8:33 am
You wouldn't believe it anyway. Well how do we know it's a protesters, let's wait for the investigation, even though my friend is charged with investigating these instances with the FBI. Sorry, the left makes up too much stuff in their fantasy reality to discuss stuff with.
Gil, I have relatives who live within Minneapolis city limits and they have a different opinion about the protests and ICE then you do.
Is your friend investigating Renee Good's shooting with the FBI? Is the FBI even investigating Renee Good's shooting? Or are they investigating Renee Good's widow and assuming that Renee Good's shooting was justified and doesn't need an investigation because Keystone kash told them so? I don't trust trump or his circle of cronies and they have given me plenty of reasons not to.
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Neither was Renee Good.kalm wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 10:23 amTrue to an extent. I taught my own boys to be compliant when someone has the hammer over you. None of us have had to be in that situation. Then again, we’re not dark skinned with foreign sounding accents and names.
But once clear over-reach is scene on a national scale from LA to Chucago to Minnesota, sone of which are clearly unconstitutional and an abuse of power without government oversight it’s no surprise that people are questioning authority.
This is not the way you do law enforcement.
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Bad behavior by ICE is investigated internally. They just don't report to us. It's a simple deal here, but some people want to complicate it.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 11:35 amI respect law enforcement but I also expect them to respect the Constitution of the United States of America and I have little tolerance for officers/agents who don't. There are plenty of reports, videos, court cases (testimony and judicial rulings) to support claims that there are ICE and CBP agents who are violating the Constitution. I'm not making this stuff up. The evidence is there.Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 10:40 am
I've dealt with customs and immigration more than most people. I have one classmate, a cousin and other friends that have worked customs, immigration and border patrol. I became stricter after 9/11 for sure, but nothing really changed about you respecting them and them treating you the same in response.
Questions that I believe are fair to ask:The "all they have to do is comply" argument is a cop-out to overlook violating the Constitution. We should be looking at and investigating bad behavior by both sides: protesters and and law enforcement.
- Has the trump regime changed the rules of engagement for ICE/CBP/DHS? If yes, how and why?
- What impact has the trump regime's aggressive detention and deportation targets had on agent behavior?
- How many people have ICE and CBP hired since trump took office? Has that growth been more than they could realistically handle?
- Have the new hires been given adequate training or have they been rushed into the field? Given the fact that Jonathan Ross was dragged by a car months prior to shooting Renee Good, it's fair to ask if he was rushed back to the field before he was ready?
Newest complaint by the protesters was a snowplow lowering It's blade and splashing them with snow. The pain and horror of being a Karen.

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Semantics. Change widow to partner and tell me it's FAKE NEWS.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 11:59 amFAKE NEWS. Renee Good has no widow. She wasn’t legally married to that other woman.UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 19, 2026 9:51 am
Show me a video. I have and will continue to condemn protesters who go too far. They should be arrested. I don't think they represent all or even the majority of protesters.
Gil, I have relatives who live within Minneapolis city limits and they have a different opinion about the protests and ICE then you do.
Is your friend investigating Renee Good's shooting with the FBI? Is the FBI even investigating Renee Good's shooting? Or are they investigating Renee Good's widow and assuming that Renee Good's shooting was justified and doesn't need an investigation because Keystone kash told them so? I don't trust trump or his circle of cronies and they have given me plenty of reasons not to.
Or are you saying that Becca Good isn't being investigated?
Footnote: the Goods lived in Missouri which recognizes common law marriages and while Minnesota doesn't recognize new common-law marriages they do recognize common-law marriages legally established in other states. So there is a possibility that the Goods were technically married.
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Not a questionable and extremely high profile shooting death involving an agent. The FBI is part of the DoJ, not DHS so it isn't an "internal investigation". Jonathan Ross and internal bleeding from not being struck by Renee Good's car and is now reportedly in hiding - "the pain and horror of being a Karen."Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 12:15 pmBad behavior by ICE is investigated internally. They just don't report to us. It's a simple deal here, but some people want to complicate it.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 11:35 am
I respect law enforcement but I also expect them to respect the Constitution of the United States of America and I have little tolerance for officers/agents who don't. There are plenty of reports, videos, court cases (testimony and judicial rulings) to support claims that there are ICE and CBP agents who are violating the Constitution. I'm not making this stuff up. The evidence is there.
Questions that I believe are fair to ask:The "all they have to do is comply" argument is a cop-out to overlook violating the Constitution. We should be looking at and investigating bad behavior by both sides: protesters and and law enforcement.
- Has the trump regime changed the rules of engagement for ICE/CBP/DHS? If yes, how and why?
- What impact has the trump regime's aggressive detention and deportation targets had on agent behavior?
- How many people have ICE and CBP hired since trump took office? Has that growth been more than they could realistically handle?
- Have the new hires been given adequate training or have they been rushed into the field? Given the fact that Jonathan Ross was dragged by a car months prior to shooting Renee Good, it's fair to ask if he was rushed back to the field before he was ready?
Newest complaint by the protesters was a snowplow lowering It's blade and splashing them with snow. The pain and horror of being a Karen.
I believe that an event like the Renee Good shooting would typically be investigated by both the FBI and local law enforcement (Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension). Why has the FBI frozen the BCA out? Are they trying to hide something. MAQA yahoos will accuse Minnesota government and agencies of being biased but won't admit to the possibility that trump's DoJ and DHS (this includes the FBI, ICE, CBP, etc.) might also be biased. I can admit that both are possible. That's part of the reason that both the FBI and BCA should be investigating.
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For the same reason Minneosta state law enforcement (including rhe BCA) has frozen ICE out by being a sanctuary state to include not cooperating on ICE detainer requests to Minnesota. The feds shouldn't cooperate with any sanctuary state that doesn’t cooperate with them. Newsflash- cooperation goes both ways.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 12:20 pmNot a questionable and extremely high profile shooting death involving an agent. The FBI is part of the DoJ, not DHS so it isn't an "internal investigation". Jonathan Ross and internal bleeding from not being struck by Renee Good's car and is now reportedly in hiding - "the pain and horror of being a Karen."Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 12:15 pm
Bad behavior by ICE is investigated internally. They just don't report to us. It's a simple deal here, but some people want to complicate it.
Newest complaint by the protesters was a snowplow lowering It's blade and splashing them with snow. The pain and horror of being a Karen.
I believe that an event like the Renee Good shooting would typically be investigated by both the FBI and local law enforcement (Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension). Why has the FBI frozen the BCA out? Are they trying to hide something. MAQA yahoos will accuse Minnesota government and agencies of being biased but won't admit to the possibility that trump's DoJ and DHS (this includes the FBI, ICE, CBP, etc.) might also be biased. I can admit that both are possible. That's part of the reason that both the FBI and BCA should be investigating.
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Would have been 100% justified in hitting the gas earlier than he did and running over these violent leftist insurrectionists. Could easily articulate they feared for their lives.
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Deranged. Almost all white, majority AWFLs.
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Seriously Gil? This is part of the reason for suspicion. Independent verification of the legality of deadly force is not “complicating it”. Especially considering DHS, Vance, Miller et al have lied about it.Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 12:15 pmBad behavior by ICE is investigated internally. They just don't report to us. It's a simple deal here, but some people want to complicate it.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 11:35 am
I respect law enforcement but I also expect them to respect the Constitution of the United States of America and I have little tolerance for officers/agents who don't. There are plenty of reports, videos, court cases (testimony and judicial rulings) to support claims that there are ICE and CBP agents who are violating the Constitution. I'm not making this stuff up. The evidence is there.
Questions that I believe are fair to ask:The "all they have to do is comply" argument is a cop-out to overlook violating the Constitution. We should be looking at and investigating bad behavior by both sides: protesters and and law enforcement.
- Has the trump regime changed the rules of engagement for ICE/CBP/DHS? If yes, how and why?
- What impact has the trump regime's aggressive detention and deportation targets had on agent behavior?
- How many people have ICE and CBP hired since trump took office? Has that growth been more than they could realistically handle?
- Have the new hires been given adequate training or have they been rushed into the field? Given the fact that Jonathan Ross was dragged by a car months prior to shooting Renee Good, it's fair to ask if he was rushed back to the field before he was ready?
Newest complaint by the protesters was a snowplow lowering It's blade and splashing them with snow. The pain and horror of being a Karen.
What happened to ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’?
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Then don't whine when people say that Keystone kash's FBI investigation is biased, rushed, pre-determined, not even happening, etc.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 12:30 pmFor the same reason Minneosta state law enforcement (including rhe BCA) has frozen ICE out by being a sanctuary state to include not cooperating on ICE detainer requests to Minnesota. The feds shouldn't cooperate with any sanctuary state that doesn’t cooperate with them. Newsflash- cooperation goes both ways.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 12:20 pm
Not a questionable and extremely high profile shooting death involving an agent. The FBI is part of the DoJ, not DHS so it isn't an "internal investigation". Jonathan Ross and internal bleeding from not being struck by Renee Good's car and is now reportedly in hiding - "the pain and horror of being a Karen."
I believe that an event like the Renee Good shooting would typically be investigated by both the FBI and local law enforcement (Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension). Why has the FBI frozen the BCA out? Are they trying to hide something. MAQA yahoos will accuse Minnesota government and agencies of being biased but won't admit to the possibility that trump's DoJ and DHS (this includes the FBI, ICE, CBP, etc.) might also be biased. I can admit that both are possible. That's part of the reason that both the FBI and BCA should be investigating.
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This does not exactly support your argument.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 12:07 pmNeither was Renee Good.kalm wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 10:23 am
True to an extent. I taught my own boys to be compliant when someone has the hammer over you. None of us have had to be in that situation. Then again, we’re not dark skinned with foreign sounding accents and names.
But once clear over-reach is scene on a national scale from LA to Chucago to Minnesota, sone of which are clearly unconstitutional and an abuse of power without government oversight it’s no surprise that people are questioning authority.
This is not the way you do law enforcement.
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I'm not going to argue about a crazy protester that made some bad choices, trying to run from officers that are trained to deal with fleeing suspects. Sometimes they don't end well. If I go to Minneapolis and do what she did, I get shot. All this is hiding the Ilhan Omar Mafia scam. At least it's the same scam as the mafia does. Walz knew about it, they helped him get elected.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 12:20 pmNot a questionable and extremely high profile shooting death involving an agent. The FBI is part of the DoJ, not DHS so it isn't an "internal investigation". Jonathan Ross and internal bleeding from not being struck by Renee Good's car and is now reportedly in hiding - "the pain and horror of being a Karen."Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 12:15 pm
Bad behavior by ICE is investigated internally. They just don't report to us. It's a simple deal here, but some people want to complicate it.
Newest complaint by the protesters was a snowplow lowering It's blade and splashing them with snow. The pain and horror of being a Karen.
I believe that an event like the Renee Good shooting would typically be investigated by both the FBI and local law enforcement (Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension). Why has the FBI frozen the BCA out? Are they trying to hide something. MAQA yahoos will accuse Minnesota government and agencies of being biased but won't admit to the possibility that trump's DoJ and DHS (this includes the FBI, ICE, CBP, etc.) might also be biased. I can admit that both are possible. That's part of the reason that both the FBI and BCA should be investigating.

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You haven't dealt with customs and immigration or border patrol before I guess. What would happen to you if you did the same thing as Renee Good? I would get shot.kalm wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 1:02 pmSeriously Gil? This is part of the reason for suspicion. Independent verification of the legality of deadly force is not “complicating it”. Especially considering DHS, Vance, Miller et al have lied about it.Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 12:15 pm
Bad behavior by ICE is investigated internally. They just don't report to us. It's a simple deal here, but some people want to complicate it.
Newest complaint by the protesters was a snowplow lowering It's blade and splashing them with snow. The pain and horror of being a Karen.
What happened to ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’?
If you said you were there to help, the protesters would still yell in their face and tell them to leave. They are trying to enforce immigration laws and walk thru a mine field at the same time.

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You're joking right?Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 4:14 pmI'm not going to argue about a crazy protester that made some bad choices, trying to run from officers that are trained to deal with fleeing suspects. Sometimes they don't end well. If I go to Minneapolis and do what she did, I get shot. All this is hiding the Ilhan Omar Mafia scam. At least it's the same scam as the mafia does. Walz knew about it, they helped him get elected.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 12:20 pm
Not a questionable and extremely high profile shooting death involving an agent. The FBI is part of the DoJ, not DHS so it isn't an "internal investigation". Jonathan Ross and internal bleeding from not being struck by Renee Good's car and is now reportedly in hiding - "the pain and horror of being a Karen."
I believe that an event like the Renee Good shooting would typically be investigated by both the FBI and local law enforcement (Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension). Why has the FBI frozen the BCA out? Are they trying to hide something. MAQA yahoos will accuse Minnesota government and agencies of being biased but won't admit to the possibility that trump's DoJ and DHS (this includes the FBI, ICE, CBP, etc.) might also be biased. I can admit that both are possible. That's part of the reason that both the FBI and BCA should be investigating.
Was what she did stupid? Absolutely. Was the response it got the right response based on DHS training? No.
ICE/CBP agents are trained to:
- not step in front of a running vehicle
- only fire at a moving vehicle as a last resort (definitely no need to fire the 2nd & 3rd shots into the side of the vehicle after it had already passed him)
I can play that game too - All of this is hiding the donald j. trump Pedophile Protector Scam.
This investigation needs to be thorough and unbiased. The fact that the prosecutors involved with prosecuting the Omar Mafia scam resigned due to pressure from DoJ leadership to investigate Becca Good rather than focusing on the agent or the circumstances of the shooting should be extremely troubling to anyone with a functioning brainstem who is concerned about the Omar Mafia scam and/or the ICE protests.
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Sorry Gil, that’s a reach. Completely different circumstances.Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 4:18 pmYou haven't dealt with customs and immigration or border patrol before I guess. What would happen to you if you did the same thing as Renee Good? I would get shot.kalm wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 1:02 pm
Seriously Gil? This is part of the reason for suspicion. Independent verification of the legality of deadly force is not “complicating it”. Especially considering DHS, Vance, Miller et al have lied about it.
What happened to ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’?
If you said you were there to help, the protesters would still yell in their face and tell them to leave. They are trying to enforce immigration laws and walk thru a mine field at the same time.
And do you really not know the reference “I’m from the government. Resisting/protesting an out of control federal government is exactly what’s supposed to happen.
See Ronald Reagan and the Gadsden Flag more details.
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Agree 100 %Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 4:18 pmYou haven't dealt with customs and immigration or border patrol before I guess. What would happen to you if you did the same thing as Renee Good? I would get shot.kalm wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 1:02 pm
Seriously Gil? This is part of the reason for suspicion. Independent verification of the legality of deadly force is not “complicating it”. Especially considering DHS, Vance, Miller et al have lied about it.
What happened to ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’?
If you said you were there to help, the protesters would still yell in their face and tell them to leave. They are trying to enforce immigration laws and walk thru a mine field at the same time.
If you don’t act like an asshole, you won’t get treated like one
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Someone should tell that to trump.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 7:49 pmAgree 100 %Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 4:18 pm
You haven't dealt with customs and immigration or border patrol before I guess. What would happen to you if you did the same thing as Renee Good? I would get shot.
If you said you were there to help, the protesters would still yell in their face and tell them to leave. They are trying to enforce immigration laws and walk thru a mine field at the same time.
If you don’t act like an asshole, you won’t get treated like one
Simple
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
MAQA - putting the Q into qrazy qanon qult qonspiracy theories since 2015.
MAQA - putting the Q into qrazy qanon qult qonspiracy theories since 2015.


