Trump 2.0: MAGAA

[Skjellyfetti]

MAGA is brain rot to the core

[UNI88]

MAGA is brain rot to the core

Definitively ahead of trump as far as "doing more for NATO":
- Truman
- Eisenhower
- Reagan
- Ernest Bevin
- Robert Schuman
- Lester B. Pearson
- Hastings Ismay
- Konrad Adenauer
- Helmut Kohl
- Margaret Thatcher
- Javier Solana

What trump is attempting to do with Greenland is doing more to undermine NATO. As such, he fits in better with the following:
- vladimir putin
- Joseph Stalin
- Charles de Gaulle
- Recep Tayyip Erdoğan

[Caribbean Hen]

What a real leader looks like.

Donald made her a star and she never even said thank you

[UNI88]

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[Caribbean Hen]

Trump’s one year anniversary

Thank goodness Klambella is not the President because

Crime is down
wages are up
Food has come way down.
Gas prices down
power bill down
Criminal illegals are being rounded up
The drug trade has dried up.
Waste has been curbed, but not yet eliminated.
The market is up.
Jobs are steady and increasing
Nobody is messing with us right now

The leftist media and the genius prognosticators have all been proven wrong

You don’t have to like Donald Trump but every American should appreciate what he’s doing for you

[GannonFan]

MAGA is brain rot to the core

Definitively ahead of trump as far as "doing more for NATO":
- Truman
- Eisenhower
- Reagan
- Ernest Bevin
- Robert Schuman
- Lester B. Pearson
- Hastings Ismay
- Konrad Adenauer
- Helmut Kohl
- Margaret Thatcher
- Javier Solana

What trump is attempting to do with Greenland is doing more to undermine NATO. As such, he fits in better with the following:
- vladimir putin
- Joseph Stalin
- Charles de Gaulle
- Recep Tayyip Erdoğan

These types of lists don't accomplish anything and don't advance the discussions at all. It's like calling somebody Hitler. Trump is not Joseph Stalin. That's just trying to be provocative.

Trump has done good things for NATO. His blustering did get a lot of NATA nations to finally step up and start putting more money in defense than they ever did before. It was something we had been asking for across multiple administrations, but it finally got traction under Trump. Good for him on that one.

But all of that pales in comparison to the damage that is being done with the next-level stupidity that Trump is exhibiting with regards to Greenland now. Even for Trump this is mind-altering stupid. We have what we want with Greenland. Unfettered access to do anything and everything military-wise we want to do on that land. We have access to mine and develop whatever we want to on that island with regard to rare-earths and other minerals. Sure, we'll have to pay for it, but that's what trade is. And we'll certainly get a pretty good discount anyway. Russia and China have no ability to force project outside of their immediate countries so the odds of Greenland being invaded by either are pretty much zero. The only urgency here is Trump's manic need to satiate his compulsive narcissism. Someone close to him has to start talking him down from this epic level of stupidity.

And it would be nice if SCOTUS got around to finally ruling on and clarifying Trump's out of control use of tariffs in the first place. Maybe they want to wait until this cools down rather than inserting themselves into it and heating it up, but there needs to be the guardrails put back into place by a sensible judicial ruling that includes as much of a majority as possible (so basically everyone but Thomas - he's a lost cause).

[UNI88]

Definitively ahead of trump as far as "doing more for NATO":
- Truman
- Eisenhower
- Reagan
- Ernest Bevin
- Robert Schuman
- Lester B. Pearson
- Hastings Ismay
- Konrad Adenauer
- Helmut Kohl
- Margaret Thatcher
- Javier Solana

What trump is attempting to do with Greenland is doing more to undermine NATO. As such, he fits in better with the following:
- vladimir putin
- Joseph Stalin
- Charles de Gaulle
- Recep Tayyip Erdoğan

These types of lists don't accomplish anything and don't advance the discussions at all. It's like calling somebody Hitler. Trump is not Joseph Stalin. That's just trying to be provocative.

Trump has done good things for NATO. His blustering did get a lot of NATA nations to finally step up and start putting more money in defense than they ever did before. It was something we had been asking for across multiple administrations, but it finally got traction under Trump. Good for him on that one.

But all of that pales in comparison to the damage that is being done with the next-level stupidity that Trump is exhibiting with regards to Greenland now. Even for Trump this is mind-altering stupid. We have what we want with Greenland. Unfettered access to do anything and everything military-wise we want to do on that land. We have access to mine and develop whatever we want to on that island with regard to rare-earths and other minerals. Sure, we'll have to pay for it, but that's what trade is. And we'll certainly get a pretty good discount anyway. Russia and China have no ability to force project outside of their immediate countries so the odds of Greenland being invaded by either are pretty much zero. The only urgency here is Trump's manic need to satiate his compulsive narcissism. Someone close to him has to start talking him down from this epic level of stupidity.

And it would be nice if SCOTUS got around to finally ruling on and clarifying Trump's out of control use of tariffs in the first place. Maybe they want to wait until this cools down rather than inserting themselves into it and heating it up, but there needs to be the guardrails put back into place by a sensible judicial ruling that includes as much of a majority as possible (so basically everyone but Thomas - he's a lost cause).

You can ignore the bottom list if you'd like. trump isn't Stalin but IMO he is trying to be like putin. And he certainly hasn't done as much for NATO as anyone on the top list.

putin and the russian invasion of Ukraine deserves 50+% of the credit for European nations stepping up and starting to put more money in defense. That woke them up at least as much as trump’s justified complaints.

Completely agree on trump's latest escapades with Greenland and NATO as well as the need for SCOTUS to act to put some guardrails in place. It would also be nice if our Republican Congress grew a spine and did their job with respect to purse strings and oversight.

[Caribbean Hen]

Trump is gonna be Trump and sure there is a lot of bluster with Trump, but regardless of how Trump behaves himself he’s still gonna be called the worst things imaginable so I think he sees it as I might as well just be me

In fact, if you take away the Trump bluster and plug in Biden or Obama trying to acquire Greenland for all the same reasons Trump is, the media would call them both heroes and praising them

The United States of America cannot get comfortable and we need to keep thinking forward or else we would still be called the 13 colonies

[UNI88]

Trump is gonna be Trump and sure there is a lot of bluster with Trump, but regardless of how Trump behaves himself he’s still gonna be called the worst things imaginable so I think he sees it as I might as well just be me

In fact, if you take away the Trump bluster and plug in Biden or Obama trying to acquire Greenland for all the same reasons Trump is, the media would call them both heroes and praising them

The United States of America cannot get comfortable and we need to keep thinking forward or else we would still be called the 13 colonies

I doubt Obama or biden would be taking steps to acquire Greenland that could destroy or seriously weaken NATO and if they did Republicans would rightfully be screaming bloody murder.

Ganny nails it ...

But all of that pales in comparison to the damage that is being done with the next-level stupidity that Trump is exhibiting with regards to Greenland now. Even for Trump this is mind-altering stupid. We have what we want with Greenland. Unfettered access to do anything and everything military-wise we want to do on that land. We have access to mine and develop whatever we want to on that island with regard to rare-earths and other minerals. Sure, we'll have to pay for it, but that's what trade is. And we'll certainly get a pretty good discount anyway. Russia and China have no ability to force project outside of their immediate countries so the odds of Greenland being invaded by either are pretty much zero. The only urgency here is Trump's manic need to satiate his compulsive narcissism. Someone close to him has to start talking him down from this epic level of stupidity.

If you disagree with what Ganny says give us a reasoned argument why he's wrong not some trite, shallow bullshit.

[GannonFan]

Trump is gonna be Trump and sure there is a lot of bluster with Trump, but regardless of how Trump behaves himself he’s still gonna be called the worst things imaginable so I think he sees it as I might as well just be me

In fact, if you take away the Trump bluster and plug in Biden or Obama trying to acquire Greenland for all the same reasons Trump is, the media would call them both heroes and praising them

The United States of America cannot get comfortable and we need to keep thinking forward or else we would still be called the 13 colonies

No, other than the first paragraph, that's all wrong. Talking about taking over Greenland, at all costs, is lunacy. Doesn't matter who brought it up. After Truman tried to buy Greenland in 1950, we worked out a series of deals with Denmark that pretty much gave us carte blanche to do whatever we wanted to do in Greenland, and that still exists today. Owning the island is unnecessary for the military reasons we want to be in Greenland. We could build whatever bases or ports there we want to today and going forward and no one would bat an eye at that.

And who said anything about getting comfortable and not forward thinking? We haven't been called the 13 colonies in almost 250 years, so what does aggressively taking control of Greenland have anything to do with that? Where's the forward thinking when we lose the intelligence services of other NATO countries? Where's the forward thinking when we threaten economic instability with some of our best trading partners because we're adamant to get the title deed on a frozen island that we already can do whatever we want to there? Trump has been a broken clock and fortunate to be correct when the topics come back to wherever he broke the clock - this ain't that time of day right now.

[Caribbean Hen]

Trump is gonna be Trump and sure there is a lot of bluster with Trump, but regardless of how Trump behaves himself he’s still gonna be called the worst things imaginable so I think he sees it as I might as well just be me

In fact, if you take away the Trump bluster and plug in Biden or Obama trying to acquire Greenland for all the same reasons Trump is, the media would call them both heroes and praising them

The United States of America cannot get comfortable and we need to keep thinking forward or else we would still be called the 13 colonies

No, other than the first paragraph, that's all wrong. Talking about taking over Greenland, at all costs, is lunacy. Doesn't matter who brought it up. After Truman tried to buy Greenland in 1950, we worked out a series of deals with Denmark that pretty much gave us carte blanche to do whatever we wanted to do in Greenland, and that still exists today. Owning the island is unnecessary for the military reasons we want to be in Greenland. We could build whatever bases or ports there we want to today and going forward and no one would bat an eye at that.

And who said anything about getting comfortable and not forward thinking? We haven't been called the 13 colonies in almost 250 years, so what does aggressively taking control of Greenland have anything to do with that? Where's the forward thinking when we lose the intelligence services of other NATO countries? Where's the forward thinking when we threaten economic instability with some of our best trading partners because we're adamant to get the title deed on a frozen island that we already can do whatever we want to there? Trump has been a broken clock and fortunate to be correct when the topics come back to wherever he broke the clock - this ain't that time of day right now.

Trump and or whomever is advising him, sees Greenland as a great investment. He’s thinking 50-100 years out, just not election cycles. None of us know what Trump knows.

50 years from now, they will either be saying one or two things

Trump had sharp futuristic vision in acquiring Greenland and because of “climate change” it’s worth trillions now, and that’s not just because of the real estate and lots of Americans moving there. Having first access to those minerals will keep us ahead in the AI race that we appear to be whining now. Trump might not have been the right messenger, but his idea was certainly 100% on point

Or if we don’t own it, they will say The United States was so hateful of everything Trump did, even though he was trying to help them, they just couldn’t get past his personality and let the hate and mind disease that we know now as Trump derangement syndrome, blind them on what he was trying to for the future of our country. Yes it was abrasive, but in hindsight, it looks like Trump was 100% correct

Although Russia and China might not be threats today, they certainly will be in 50 to 100 years. China is already trying to get their economic footprints all over Greenland.

Owning Greenland is a lot different than being the renter and Russia and China will certainly be more hesitant to be aggressive if the United States is the owner

Obviously, the defense of the United States of anything coming over the Arctic is critical and probably plays into why Trump wanted Canada to be the 51st state. We would truly be a world superpower. And Canada, not needing a military of their own anymore would be a very rich state.

Maybe Trump doesn’t like ambiguity with the whole carte blanch thing that not many Americas or Russia or China care about. It’s much easier to him if he can just say it’s mine

[GannonFan]

No, other than the first paragraph, that's all wrong. Talking about taking over Greenland, at all costs, is lunacy. Doesn't matter who brought it up. After Truman tried to buy Greenland in 1950, we worked out a series of deals with Denmark that pretty much gave us carte blanche to do whatever we wanted to do in Greenland, and that still exists today. Owning the island is unnecessary for the military reasons we want to be in Greenland. We could build whatever bases or ports there we want to today and going forward and no one would bat an eye at that.

And who said anything about getting comfortable and not forward thinking? We haven't been called the 13 colonies in almost 250 years, so what does aggressively taking control of Greenland have anything to do with that? Where's the forward thinking when we lose the intelligence services of other NATO countries? Where's the forward thinking when we threaten economic instability with some of our best trading partners because we're adamant to get the title deed on a frozen island that we already can do whatever we want to there? Trump has been a broken clock and fortunate to be correct when the topics come back to wherever he broke the clock - this ain't that time of day right now.

Trump and or whomever is advising him, sees Greenland as a great investment. He’s thinking 50-100 years out, just not election cycles. None of us know what Trump knows.

50 years from now, they will either be saying one or two things

Trump had sharp futuristic vision in acquiring Greenland and because of “climate change” it’s worth trillions now, and that’s not just because of the real estate and lots of Americans moving there. Having first access to those minerals will keep us ahead in the AI race that we appear to be whining now. Trump might not have been the right messenger, but his idea was certainly 100% on point

Or if we don’t own it, they will say The United States was so hateful of everything Trump did, even though he was trying to help them, they just couldn’t get past his personality and let the hate and mind disease that we know now as Trump derangement syndrome, blind them on what he was trying to for the future of our country. Yes it was abrasive, but in hindsight, it looks like Trump was 100% correct

Although Russia and China might not be threats today, they certainly will be in 50 to 100 years. China is already trying to get their economic footprints all over Greenland.

Owning Greenland is a lot different than being the renter and Russia and China will certainly be more hesitant to be aggressive if the United States is the owner

Obviously, the defense of the United States of anything coming over the Arctic is critical and probably plays into why Trump wanted Canada to be the 51st state. We would truly be a world superpower. And Canada, not needing a military of their own anymore would be a very rich state.

Maybe Trump doesn’t like ambiguity with the whole carte blanch thing that not many Americas or Russia or China care about. It’s much easier to him if he can just say it’s mine

Wow, just so much to unpack there. I assume you were posting sober so unfortunately I can't just wave this off as being the result of something like that.

Yes, owning Greenland would be great. Problem is, someone else, an ally, already owns it, and the people who live there don't seem to want to be owned either. There are many places in the world that would be great to own. If we resort to the idea that we can own everything and anyone who doesn't comply gets beaten down militarily or economically, then we will have no friends. No NATO means no intelligence sharing, it means no help should anything go bad for us, and it starts making too much of the world as an unfriendly place for America and Americans.

If we only had Canada we would be a world superpower? I thought we already were? We already have enough nukes to end the world thousands of times over, and we're the only country in the world that can really project military force, en masse, anywhere in the world. And we have one of the largest populations in the world and we're the wealthiest country in the world. I think we're still #1.

We can already get all the raw materials from Greenland that we want, and we can use our leverage with our allies to keep China out.

If Trump (and perhaps you) can't understand this "ambiguity" then they should talk to the people around them to clear it up for them. We can do anything we want to do in Greenland and have been able to do so for years. If it's important to do something there, just do it. The welcome mat had been out for decades, although we risk them pulling it back when we say we're taking it by force. That's where the stupid has been coming in.

[kalm]

Trump and or whomever is advising him, sees Greenland as a great investment. He’s thinking 50-100 years out, just not election cycles. None of us know what Trump knows.

50 years from now, they will either be saying one or two things

Trump had sharp futuristic vision in acquiring Greenland and because of “climate change” it’s worth trillions now, and that’s not just because of the real estate and lots of Americans moving there. Having first access to those minerals will keep us ahead in the AI race that we appear to be whining now. Trump might not have been the right messenger, but his idea was certainly 100% on point

Or if we don’t own it, they will say The United States was so hateful of everything Trump did, even though he was trying to help them, they just couldn’t get past his personality and let the hate and mind disease that we know now as Trump derangement syndrome, blind them on what he was trying to for the future of our country. Yes it was abrasive, but in hindsight, it looks like Trump was 100% correct

Although Russia and China might not be threats today, they certainly will be in 50 to 100 years. China is already trying to get their economic footprints all over Greenland.

Owning Greenland is a lot different than being the renter and Russia and China will certainly be more hesitant to be aggressive if the United States is the owner

Obviously, the defense of the United States of anything coming over the Arctic is critical and probably plays into why Trump wanted Canada to be the 51st state. We would truly be a world superpower. And Canada, not needing a military of their own anymore would be a very rich state.

Maybe Trump doesn’t like ambiguity with the whole carte blanch thing that not many Americas or Russia or China care about. It’s much easier to him if he can just say it’s mine

Wow, just so much to unpack there. I assume you were posting sober so unfortunately I can't just wave this off as being the result of something like that.

Yes, owning Greenland would be great. Problem is, someone else, an ally, already owns it, and the people who live there don't seem to want to be owned either. There are many places in the world that would be great to own. If we resort to the idea that we can own everything and anyone who doesn't comply gets beaten down militarily or economically, then we will have no friends. No NATO means no intelligence sharing, it means no help should anything go bad for us, and it starts making too much of the world as an unfriendly place for America and Americans.

If we only had Canada we would be a world superpower? I thought we already were? We already have enough nukes to end the world thousands of times over, and we're the only country in the world that can really project military force, en masse, anywhere in the world. And we have one of the largest populations in the world and we're the wealthiest country in the world. I think we're still #1.

We can already get all the raw materials from Greenland that we want, and we can use our leverage with our allies to keep China out.

If Trump (and perhaps you) can't understand this "ambiguity" then they should talk to the people around them to clear it up for them. We can do anything we want to do in Greenland and have been able to do so for years. If it's important to do something there, just do it. The welcome mat had been out for decades, although we risk them pulling it back when we say we're taking it by force. That's where the stupid has been coming in.

Not to mention immorality of colonialism and stealing territory under threat of war. Trump and Putin desire a 1400’s world.

[kalm]

Furthermore….

[Caribbean Hen]

Trump and or whomever is advising him, sees Greenland as a great investment. He’s thinking 50-100 years out, just not election cycles. None of us know what Trump knows.

50 years from now, they will either be saying one or two things

Trump had sharp futuristic vision in acquiring Greenland and because of “climate change” it’s worth trillions now, and that’s not just because of the real estate and lots of Americans moving there. Having first access to those minerals will keep us ahead in the AI race that we appear to be whining now. Trump might not have been the right messenger, but his idea was certainly 100% on point

Or if we don’t own it, they will say The United States was so hateful of everything Trump did, even though he was trying to help them, they just couldn’t get past his personality and let the hate and mind disease that we know now as Trump derangement syndrome, blind them on what he was trying to for the future of our country. Yes it was abrasive, but in hindsight, it looks like Trump was 100% correct

Although Russia and China might not be threats today, they certainly will be in 50 to 100 years. China is already trying to get their economic footprints all over Greenland.

Owning Greenland is a lot different than being the renter and Russia and China will certainly be more hesitant to be aggressive if the United States is the owner

Obviously, the defense of the United States of anything coming over the Arctic is critical and probably plays into why Trump wanted Canada to be the 51st state. We would truly be a world superpower. And Canada, not needing a military of their own anymore would be a very rich state.

Maybe Trump doesn’t like ambiguity with the whole carte blanch thing that not many Americas or Russia or China care about. It’s much easier to him if he can just say it’s mine

Wow, just so much to unpack there. I assume you were posting sober so unfortunately I can't just wave this off as being the result of something like that.

Yes, owning Greenland would be great. Problem is, someone else, an ally, already owns it, and the people who live there don't seem to want to be owned either. There are many places in the world that would be great to own. If we resort to the idea that we can own everything and anyone who doesn't comply gets beaten down militarily or economically, then we will have no friends. No NATO means no intelligence sharing, it means no help should anything go bad for us, and it starts making too much of the world as an unfriendly place for America and Americans.

If we only had Canada we would be a world superpower? I thought we already were? We already have enough nukes to end the world thousands of times over, and we're the only country in the world that can really project military force, en masse, anywhere in the world. And we have one of the largest populations in the world and we're the wealthiest country in the world. I think we're still #1.

We can already get all the raw materials from Greenland that we want, and we can use our leverage with our allies to keep China out.

If Trump (and perhaps you) can't understand this "ambiguity" then they should talk to the people around them to clear it up for them. We can do anything we want to do in Greenland and have been able to do so for years. If it's important to do something there, just do it. The welcome mat had been out for decades, although we risk them pulling it back when we say we're taking it by force. That's where the stupid has been coming in.

I’m just not convinced renting Greenland is the same as owning it, especially a century into the future. Sure it will work today, but we cannot get stuck in today

You’re not investing your brainpower in a way that allows you to express how drastic change in the future changes what we know today. Just look at college football and how so much has happened over the best 10 years that nobody would’ve believed 50 years ago.

Yes we are a world super power today, everyone already knows that, but the Romans were too. The goal should be to remain one indefinitely. Owning Greenland would solidify the goal.

As the icecap melts away everything changes in Greenland. No other place on earth is like Greenland right now. It will be a modern gold rush and maybe now it already is.

Yeah, somebody else owns Greenland right now, but they can’t defend it into the future. Denmark?

NATO ? Why didn’t they disband NATO soon after the old Soviet Union fell? That’s all it was for anyway. Russia could even be an ally 20 years from now. And if it is, NATO would be a farce

Thank you Donald Trump for thinking about American interest well into the future instead of talking about what cars we need to drive and what ovens we need to use.

And hopefully a more diplomatic approach will ultimately get us Greenland, we have time. We need Greenland

No, I don’t drink. I wrote that last post at the red light.

[UNI88]

Wow, just so much to unpack there. I assume you were posting sober so unfortunately I can't just wave this off as being the result of something like that.

Yes, owning Greenland would be great. Problem is, someone else, an ally, already owns it, and the people who live there don't seem to want to be owned either. There are many places in the world that would be great to own. If we resort to the idea that we can own everything and anyone who doesn't comply gets beaten down militarily or economically, then we will have no friends. No NATO means no intelligence sharing, it means no help should anything go bad for us, and it starts making too much of the world as an unfriendly place for America and Americans.

If we only had Canada we would be a world superpower? I thought we already were? We already have enough nukes to end the world thousands of times over, and we're the only country in the world that can really project military force, en masse, anywhere in the world. And we have one of the largest populations in the world and we're the wealthiest country in the world. I think we're still #1.

We can already get all the raw materials from Greenland that we want, and we can use our leverage with our allies to keep China out.

If Trump (and perhaps you) can't understand this "ambiguity" then they should talk to the people around them to clear it up for them. We can do anything we want to do in Greenland and have been able to do so for years. If it's important to do something there, just do it. The welcome mat had been out for decades, although we risk them pulling it back when we say we're taking it by force. That's where the stupid has been coming in.

I’m just not convinced renting Greenland is the same as owning it, especially a century into the future. Sure it will work today, but we cannot get stuck in today

You’re not investing your brainpower in a way that allows you to express how drastic change in the future changes what we know today. Just look at college football and how so much has happened over the best 10 years that nobody would’ve believed 50 years ago.

Yes we are a world super power today, everyone already knows that, but the Romans were too. The goal should be to remain one indefinitely. Owning Greenland would solidify the goal.

As the icecap melts away everything changes in Greenland. No other place on earth is like Greenland right now. It will be a modern gold rush and maybe now it already is.

Yeah, somebody else owns Greenland right now, but they can’t defend it into the future. Denmark?

NATO ? Why didn’t they disband NATO soon after the old Soviet Union fell? That’s all it was for anyway. Russia could even be an ally 20 years from now. And if it is, NATO would be a farce

Thank you Donald Trump for thinking about American interest well into the future instead of talking about what cars we need to drive and what ovens we need to use.

And hopefully a more diplomatic approach will ultimately get us Greenland, we have time. We need Greenland

No, I don’t drink. I wrote that last post at the red light district.

You're assuming that donald j trump is Nostradamus and not NostraDumbAss. He's a broken clock not a seer or a prophet.

[Caribbean Hen]

I’m just not convinced renting Greenland is the same as owning it, especially a century into the future. Sure it will work today, but we cannot get stuck in today

You’re not investing your brainpower in a way that allows you to express how drastic change in the future changes what we know today. Just look at college football and how so much has happened over the best 10 years that nobody would’ve believed 50 years ago.

Yes we are a world super power today, everyone already knows that, but the Romans were too. The goal should be to remain one indefinitely. Owning Greenland would solidify the goal.

As the icecap melts away everything changes in Greenland. No other place on earth is like Greenland right now. It will be a modern gold rush and maybe now it already is.

Yeah, somebody else owns Greenland right now, but they can’t defend it into the future. Denmark?

NATO ? Why didn’t they disband NATO soon after the old Soviet Union fell? That’s all it was for anyway. Russia could even be an ally 20 years from now. And if it is, NATO would be a farce

Thank you Donald Trump for thinking about American interest well into the future instead of talking about what cars we need to drive and what ovens we need to use.

And hopefully a more diplomatic approach will ultimately get us Greenland, we have time. We need Greenland

No, I don’t drink. I wrote that last post at the red light district.

You're assuming that donald j trump is Nostradamus and not NostraDumbAss. He's a broken clock not a seer or a prophet.

He’s been right about a lot of things and by the way, Trump didn’t tell me any of that …

[kalm]

[kalm]

Wow, just so much to unpack there. I assume you were posting sober so unfortunately I can't just wave this off as being the result of something like that.

Yes, owning Greenland would be great. Problem is, someone else, an ally, already owns it, and the people who live there don't seem to want to be owned either. There are many places in the world that would be great to own. If we resort to the idea that we can own everything and anyone who doesn't comply gets beaten down militarily or economically, then we will have no friends. No NATO means no intelligence sharing, it means no help should anything go bad for us, and it starts making too much of the world as an unfriendly place for America and Americans.

If we only had Canada we would be a world superpower? I thought we already were? We already have enough nukes to end the world thousands of times over, and we're the only country in the world that can really project military force, en masse, anywhere in the world. And we have one of the largest populations in the world and we're the wealthiest country in the world. I think we're still #1.

We can already get all the raw materials from Greenland that we want, and we can use our leverage with our allies to keep China out.

If Trump (and perhaps you) can't understand this "ambiguity" then they should talk to the people around them to clear it up for them. We can do anything we want to do in Greenland and have been able to do so for years. If it's important to do something there, just do it. The welcome mat had been out for decades, although we risk them pulling it back when we say we're taking it by force. That's where the stupid has been coming in.

I’m just not convinced renting Greenland is the same as owning it, especially a century into the future. Sure it will work today, but we cannot get stuck in today

You’re not investing your brainpower in a way that allows you to express how drastic change in the future changes what we know today. Just look at college football and how so much has happened over the best 10 years that nobody would’ve believed 50 years ago.

Yes we are a world super power today, everyone already knows that, but the Romans were too. The goal should be to remain one indefinitely. Owning Greenland would solidify the goal.

As the icecap melts away everything changes in Greenland. No other place on earth is like Greenland right now. It will be a modern gold rush and maybe now it already is.

Yeah, somebody else owns Greenland right now, but they can’t defend it into the future. Denmark?

NATO ? Why didn’t they disband NATO soon after the old Soviet Union fell? That’s all it was for anyway. Russia could even be an ally 20 years from now. And if it is, NATO would be a farce

Thank you Donald Trump for thinking about American interest well into the future instead of talking about what cars we need to drive and what ovens we need to use.

And hopefully a more diplomatic approach will ultimately get us Greenland, we have time. We need Greenland

No, I don’t drink. I wrote that last post at the red light.

Part of the reasons Rome fell included over-expansion to far flung lands and military over-spending.

And I’ll ask again… what right do we have to forcefully take another countries lands that also hold an indigenous population?

That’s not the kind of world anyone in their right mind wants live in. Except maybe for those hoping for a 1000 year realm.

You’re living in the past. Between approximately 300 BC and 1945.

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I’m just not convinced renting Greenland is the same as owning it, especially a century into the future. Sure it will work today, but we cannot get stuck in today

You’re not investing your brainpower in a way that allows you to express how drastic change in the future changes what we know today. Just look at college football and how so much has happened over the best 10 years that nobody would’ve believed 50 years ago.

Yes we are a world super power today, everyone already knows that, but the Romans were too. The goal should be to remain one indefinitely. Owning Greenland would solidify the goal.

As the icecap melts away everything changes in Greenland. No other place on earth is like Greenland right now. It will be a modern gold rush and maybe now it already is.

Yeah, somebody else owns Greenland right now, but they can’t defend it into the future. Denmark?

NATO ? Why didn’t they disband NATO soon after the old Soviet Union fell? That’s all it was for anyway. Russia could even be an ally 20 years from now. And if it is, NATO would be a farce

Thank you Donald Trump for thinking about American interest well into the future instead of talking about what cars we need to drive and what ovens we need to use.

And hopefully a more diplomatic approach will ultimately get us Greenland, we have time. We need Greenland

No, I don’t drink. I wrote that last post at the red light.

Part of the reasons Rome fell included over-expansion to far flung lands and military over-spending.

And I’ll ask again… what right do we have to forcefully take another countries lands that also hold an indigenous population?

That’s not the kind of world anyone in their right mind wants live in. Except maybe for those hoping for a 1000 year realm.

You’re living in the past. Between approximately 300 BC and 1945.

OK, Klam de Nero…. Where can I send you a fiddle?

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Part of the reasons Rome fell included over-expansion to far flung lands and military over-spending.

And I’ll ask again… what right do we have to forcefully take another countries lands that also hold an indigenous population?

That’s not the kind of world anyone in their right mind wants live in. Except maybe for those hoping for a 1000 year realm.

You’re living in the past. Between approximately 300 BC and 1945.

OK, Klam de Nero…. Where can I send you a fiddle?

It’s about time you showed me proper respect.

(You could also admit you’re wrong in throwing a Rome comparison in your post but I know you struggle admitting you’re wrong)

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Part of the reasons Rome fell included over-expansion to far flung lands and military over-spending.

And I’ll ask again… what right do we have to forcefully take another countries lands that also hold an indigenous population?

That’s not the kind of world anyone in their right mind wants live in. Except maybe for those hoping for a 1000 year realm.

You’re living in the past. Between approximately 300 BC and 1945.

OK, Klam de Nero…. Where can I send you a fiddle?

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OK, Klam de Nero…. Where can I send you a fiddle?

1600 Pennsylvania Ave Washington DC 20500