When socialism comes to America..

[kalm]

Man you get so spun out in these conversations.

Authoritarianism and wealth in the hands of the few at the expense of the many ain’t just a socialist thing. Ever heard of Pinochet, Milton Friedman and the Chicago boys?

You’re also apparently unaware that Trump has implemented socialist policies. Or maybe it’s ok as long as it’s your guy.

And I’m too old to be a gamer. But since your weed obsession isn’t working out I suppose that will be your next vector of attack rather than trying to stand on the merits of your arguments and level of comprehension.

Here’s your weekly moment of socialist zen from socialist Provence.

Because I have seen it, I have experienced it and I have dealt with it… face to face ….. not via some text book or moronic tweet

Why won’t you say that Venezuela and Cuba style socialism are oppressive and bad?

Is it because you have no empathy?

I’ve said it many times you degenerate. In fact, just a few posts up.

Here I’ll say it again. Venezuela and Cuba style authoritarianism is bad.

I’ve lived in the the socialist state of Washington my whole life. I’m also surrounded by socialist agriculture. My mom’s family mostly lives in socialist Canada where she was born. I’ve dealt with it my whole life. I’ve lived it. Probably longer than you have proclaimed to.

[kalm]

Because I have seen it, I have experienced it and I have dealt with it… face to face ….. not via some text book or moronic tweet

Why won’t you say that Venezuela and Cuba style socialism are oppressive and bad?

Is it because you have no empathy?

Is it socialism that is bad or the authoritarianism that it can lead to? Is the socialism of a typical Israeli Kibbutz oppressive and bad?

Is there any difference between how oppressive and bad rightwing and leftwing authoritarianism are?

I've said this before, ideology isn't a line, it's more of a circle. The extreme right and the extreme left share so many similarities that they meet at the bottom.

Exactly.

[Caribbean Hen]

Because I have seen it, I have experienced it and I have dealt with it… face to face ….. not via some text book or moronic tweet

Why won’t you say that Venezuela and Cuba style socialism are oppressive and bad?

Is it because you have no empathy?

Is it socialism that is bad or the authoritarianism that it can lead to? Is the socialism of a typical Israeli Kibbutz oppressive and bad?

Is there any difference between how oppressive and bad rightwing and leftwing authoritarianism are?

I've said this before, ideology isn't a line, it's more of a circle. The extreme right and the extreme left share so many similarities that they meet at the bottom.

So you can’t say it either can you?

Socialism in Cuba and Venezuela is bad

[UNI88]

Is it socialism that is bad or the authoritarianism that it can lead to? Is the socialism of a typical Israeli Kibbutz oppressive and bad?

Is there any difference between how oppressive and bad rightwing and leftwing authoritarianism are?

I've said this before, ideology isn't a line, it's more of a circle. The extreme right and the extreme left share so many similarities that they meet at the bottom.

So you can’t say it either can you?

Socialism in Cuba and Venezuela is bad

Kind of like how you can't criticize trump?

The authoritarian governments in Cuba and Venezuela are bad. They're not bad because they're socialist, they're bad because they're authoritarian.

The authoritarian governments in Russia, Belarus, Iran, Myanmar, North Korea, Turkmenistan, etc. are also bad.

Can you say that authoritarian governments are bad?

Or are you going to keep believing the kkkult teachings from the MAQA yahoo echo chambers that it's socialism's fault and that we need a strong authoritarian leader to defeat socialism?

[kalm]

Is it socialism that is bad or the authoritarianism that it can lead to? Is the socialism of a typical Israeli Kibbutz oppressive and bad?

Is there any difference between how oppressive and bad rightwing and leftwing authoritarianism are?

I've said this before, ideology isn't a line, it's more of a circle. The extreme right and the extreme left share so many similarities that they meet at the bottom.

So you can’t say it either can you?

Socialism in Cuba and Venezuela is bad

Socialism in Russia and Hungary are bad too.

Here’s your socialist moment of zen. One of Costa Rica’s national parks. Look at all the suffering.

[Caribbean Hen]

So you can’t say it either can you?

Socialism in Cuba and Venezuela is bad

Socialism in Russia and Hungary are bad too.

Here’s your socialist moment of zen. One of Costa Rica’s national parks. Look at all the suffering.

I can’t stop laughing at you posting silly pictures

[Caribbean Hen]

Because I have seen it, I have experienced it and I have dealt with it… face to face ….. not via some text book or moronic tweet

Why won’t you say that Venezuela and Cuba style socialism are oppressive and bad?

Is it because you have no empathy?

I’ve said it many times you degenerate. In fact, just a few posts up.

Here I’ll say it again. Venezuela and Cuba style authoritarianism is bad.

I’ve lived in the the socialist state of Washington my whole life. I’m also surrounded by socialist agriculture. My mom’s family mostly lives in socialist Canada where she was born. I’ve dealt with it my whole life. I’ve lived it. Probably longer than you have proclaimed to.

You still couldn’t say it could you…. You choked and used a fancy word for brutal dictator

If you wanna make that argument, that socialism is good, but dictatorship’s are bad, you should totally support Trump’s precision like extraction of the dictator Maduro

Because, according to you, Maduro was the problem and now socialism will thrive under a new government

[UNI88]

I’ve said it many times you degenerate. In fact, just a few posts up.

Here I’ll say it again. Venezuela and Cuba style authoritarianism is bad.

I’ve lived in the the socialist state of Washington my whole life. I’m also surrounded by socialist agriculture. My mom’s family mostly lives in socialist Canada where she was born. I’ve dealt with it my whole life. I’ve lived it. Probably longer than you have proclaimed to.

You still couldn’t say it could you…. You choked and used a fancy word for brutal dictator

If you wanna make that argument, that socialism is good, but dictatorship’s are bad, you should totally support Trump’s precision like extraction of the dictator Maduro

Because, according to you, Maduro was the problem and now socialism will thrive under a new government

Maybe kalm will say what you want right after you admit that trump is a schmuck.

Socialism in a perfect world is not a bad thing. Unfortunately, we don't live in a perfect world. People are greedy and ambitious. So while socialism works on a small scale like an Israeli kibbutz, when it's attempted on a large scale, that greed and ambition raises it's ugly head and you end up with apparatchiks and brutal dictators like maduro, stalin or mao.

They're not brutal or bad because they're socialist, that was just the path they followed to power. They're brutal because they're sociopaths who rose to to power and they're not that different from brutal rightwing dictators like hitler, pinochet, suharto, trujillo, putin, etc. I could go on but there are plenty of examples of brutal dictators who weren't socialists. Blaming everything on socialism is a MAQA canard.

Capitalism, while not perfect helps to channel people's ambitions toward the greater good and democracy helps to limit it's ability to rise to the level of authoritarianism (Adam Smith's Invisible Hand). Together, they are the best model for humankind today. It's unfortunate that trump appears to be trying to take us away from that.

[kalm]

Socialism in Russia and Hungary are bad too.

Here’s your socialist moment of zen. One of Costa Rica’s national parks. Look at all the suffering.

I can’t stop laughing at you posting silly pictures

What do you find silly about people hiking next to a beautiful waterfall in forest preserve?

[Baldy]

When the theater kids are in charge you get klamporn.

[UNI88]

When the theater kids are in charge you get klamporn.

She's a fool but she's not the only one ...

Isn't that where trump is going to get the approximately $230 million compensation from the DoJ for the "politically motivated" federal investigations against him?

[Baldy]

When the theater kids are in charge you get klamporn.

She's a fool but she's not the only one ...

That's all you really needed to say.

[UNI88]

She's a fool but she's not the only one ...

That's all you really needed to say.

You're right. It's common sense that anyone who believes trump's MAQA bullsh!t is just as much of a fool as someone who believes socialism will work this time.

[Caribbean Hen]

You still couldn’t say it could you…. You choked and used a fancy word for brutal dictator

If you wanna make that argument, that socialism is good, but dictatorship’s are bad, you should totally support Trump’s precision like extraction of the dictator Maduro

Because, according to you, Maduro was the problem and now socialism will thrive under a new government

Maybe kalm will say what you want right after you admit that trump is a schmuck.

Chang and Eng covering for each other again

A true freak show

[UNI88]

Maybe kalm will say what you want right after you admit that trump is a schmuck.

Chang and Eng covering for each other again

A true freak show

You can't do it. You'll name call and deflect because you're fully vested in the kkkult and can't criticize trump.

You have no room to call out kalm for not focusing on socialism when saying that the governments of Cuba and Venezuela are bad.

And I'm not going to let you try and bury this truth - It's common sense that anyone who believes trump's MAQA bullsh!t is just as much of a fool as someone who believes socialism will work this time.

[Caribbean Hen]

Chang and Eng covering for each other again

A true freak show

You can't do it. You'll name call and deflect because you're fully vested in the kkkult and can't criticize trump.

You have no room to call out kalm for not focusing on socialism when saying that the governments of Cuba and Venezuela are bad.

And I'm not going to let you try and bury this truth - It's common sense that anyone who believes trump's MAQA bullsh!t is just as much of a fool as someone who believes socialism will work this time.

Are you insulting your twin brother now

[UNI88]

You can't do it. You'll name call and deflect because you're fully vested in the kkkult and can't criticize trump.

You have no room to call out kalm for not focusing on socialism when saying that the governments of Cuba and Venezuela are bad.

And I'm not going to let you try and bury this truth - It's common sense that anyone who believes trump's MAQA bullsh!t is just as much of a fool as someone who believes socialism will work this time.

Are you insulting your twin brother now

kalm and I have had this debate many times.

I'm insulting you and all MAQA yahoos along with kalm.

[BDKJMU]

Chang and Eng covering for each other again

A true freak show

You can't do it. You'll name call and deflect because you're fully vested in the kkkult and can't criticize trump.

You have no room to call out kalm for not focusing on socialism when saying that the governments of Cuba and Venezuela are bad.

And I'm not going to let you try and bury this truth - It's common sense that anyone who believes trump's MAQA bullsh!t is just as much of a fool as someone who believes socialism will work this time.

Actually it’s common sense that anyone who believed last April the market was going to make a 25-33% drop, with 50% being a possibility, from last Jan’s high high, and pulled $$ out of the market, is just as much of a fool as someone who believes socialism will work this time.

[UNI88]

You can't do it. You'll name call and deflect because you're fully vested in the kkkult and can't criticize trump.

You have no room to call out kalm for not focusing on socialism when saying that the governments of Cuba and Venezuela are bad.

And I'm not going to let you try and bury this truth - It's common sense that anyone who believes trump's MAQA bullsh!t is just as much of a fool as someone who believes socialism will work this time.

Actually it’s common sense that anyone who believed last April the market was going to make a 25-33% drop, with 50% being a possibility, from last Jan’s high high, and pulled $$ out of the market, is just as much of a fool as someone who believes socialism will work this time.

Three things:

1) I'm nearing retirement soI asked myself what was a bigger concern missing out on a market increase or suffering through a drop. The answer was the drop. I would rather miss out on a gain than try to recover from a drop.

2)I've been right a lot more than I've been wrong about the market

3) For instance, I kept my investments in gold. How has gold done in the past year?

Or maybe all 3 are groups of fools. I can handle being called a fool. Can you and the other MAQA yahoos?

[Caribbean Hen]

Chang and Eng covering for each other again

A true freak show

You can't do it. You'll name call and deflect because you're fully vested in the kkkult and can't criticize trump.

You have no room to call out kalm for not focusing on socialism when saying that the governments of Cuba and Venezuela are bad.

And I'm not going to let you try and bury this truth - It's common sense that anyone who believes trump's MAQA bullsh!t is just as much of a fool as someone who believes socialism will work this time.

Believe? The Trump supporters on here are the ones that have to tell you and Chang that he is just trolling…. Multiple times

[UNI88]

You can't do it. You'll name call and deflect because you're fully vested in the kkkult and can't criticize trump.

You have no room to call out kalm for not focusing on socialism when saying that the governments of Cuba and Venezuela are bad.

And I'm not going to let you try and bury this truth - It's common sense that anyone who believes trump's MAQA bullsh!t is just as much of a fool as someone who believes socialism will work this time.

Believe? The Trump supporters on here are the ones that have to tell you and Chang that he is just trolling…. Multiple times

So he was trolling when he said:
- he was the victim of a witch hunt / lawfare?
- the 2020 election was stolen?
- the January rioters were peaceful protesters and patriots?
- they’re not after me. They’re after you — I’m just standing in the way
- tariffs will be paid by foreign companies and bring jobs back to the US?

Good to know that you other MAQA yahoos don't believe any of those things.

[BDKJMU]

Mancommie slapped down..

Federal judge delivers Mamdani early legal setback on housing market intervention

Mamdani's administration had sought to slow the sale of the properties after tenants complained that the seller, Pinnacle Group, had poorly maintained the properties and were concerned that the prospective buyer, Summit Properties USA, would have similar issues.

Mamdani's administration attempted to intervene on the basis of being a creditor to Pinnacle. The company owes the city over $12 million in unpaid fines, according to Gothamist.

Bankruptcy Judge David Jones rejected Mamdani's effort, however, setting back the new mayor's first foray into NYC's housing market….

[kalm]

[Caribbean Hen]

Wrong

There was a lot national debt talk back in the 80s, Newt worked with Slick Willie and they balanced the budget in the
90’s.

So at this point, everyone forgot or willfully ignored balanced budgets. That is acceptable to a point, but our politicians need to be re-elected so the debt took off again and now it’s an economic monster built on the foundation of a spoiled rotten society

[kalm]

Wrong

There was a lot national debt talk back in the 80s, Newt worked with Slick Willie and they balanced the budget in the
90’s.

So at this point, everyone forgot or willfully ignored balanced budgets. That is acceptable to a point, but our politicians need to be re-elected so the debt took off again and now it’s an economic monster built on the foundation of a spoiled rotten society

It still originated with the theory of trickle down. That was based on a myth and followed by every administration and congress regardless of party since Reagan. Cut taxes on the rich, deregulate. Spend your way out of each recession. Repeat and rinse. (Also see the Two Santa Clause Theory.)

Nice on paper but we’ve been trying it for almost 50 years with an ever increasing debt and wealth gap despite increased worker productivity. It’s inarguable as a failure.