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Re: When socialism comes to America..

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kalm wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 8:13 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 7:51 am

Wrong

There was a lot national debt talk back in the 80s, Newt worked with Slick Willie and they balanced the budget in the
90’s.

So at this point, everyone forgot or willfully ignored balanced budgets. That is acceptable to a point, but our politicians need to be re-elected so the debt took off again and now it’s an economic monster built on the foundation of a spoiled rotten society
It still originated with the theory of trickle down. That was based on a myth and followed by every administration and congress regardless of party since Reagan. Cut taxes on the rich, deregulate. Spend your way out of each recession. Repeat and rinse. (Also see the Two Santa Clause Theory.)

Nice on paper but we’ve been trying it for almost 50 years with an ever increasing debt and wealth gap despite increased worker productivity. It’s inarguable as a failure.
When I graduated high school from a rural farming community in 1980 there was a wealth gap too. And I was at the low end of it. I never complained about rich people either.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 8:31 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 8:13 am

It still originated with the theory of trickle down. That was based on a myth and followed by every administration and congress regardless of party since Reagan. Cut taxes on the rich, deregulate. Spend your way out of each recession. Repeat and rinse. (Also see the Two Santa Clause Theory.)

Nice on paper but we’ve been trying it for almost 50 years with an ever increasing debt and wealth gap despite increased worker productivity. It’s inarguable as a failure.
When I graduated high school from a rural farming community in 1980 there was a wealth gap too. And I was at the low end of it. I never complained about rich people either.
So you’re ok with it becoming far worse than when you grew up? Right.
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kalm wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 8:36 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 8:31 am

When I graduated high school from a rural farming community in 1980 there was a wealth gap too. And I was at the low end of it. I never complained about rich people either.
So you’re ok with it becoming far worse than when you grew up? Right.
I shake my head at the people who point fingers and cast blame and make excuses.

I didn’t do any of that, and all those young people today that say, we don’t have the same opportunities that the boomers did are not being honest with themselves. They have the same opportunities that I did.

They just don’t wanna make all the sacrifices that is required
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 8:47 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 8:36 am

So you’re ok with it becoming far worse than when you grew up? Right.
I shake my head at the people who point fingers and cast blame and make excuses.

I didn’t do any of that, and all those young people today that say, we don’t have the same opportunities that the boomers did are not being honest with themselves. They have the same opportunities that I did.

They just don’t wanna make all the sacrifices that is required
You are statistically wrong. Again…this is inarguable.
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kalm wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 8:56 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 8:47 am

I shake my head at the people who point fingers and cast blame and make excuses.

I didn’t do any of that, and all those young people today that say, we don’t have the same opportunities that the boomers did are not being honest with themselves. They have the same opportunities that I did.

They just don’t wanna make all the sacrifices that is required
You are statistically wrong. Again…this is inarguable.
You’re forgetting the “nuclear option” that most kids won’t touch today
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:04 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 8:56 am

You are statistically wrong. Again…this is inarguable.
You’re forgetting the “nuclear option” that most kids won’t touch today
I am not. The entire economic theory has been well insulated and protected all along. The nuclear option could have been used at anytime.
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kalm wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:09 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:04 am

You’re forgetting the “nuclear option” that most kids won’t touch today
I am not. The entire economic theory has been well insulated and protected all along. The nuclear option could have been used at anytime.
What is the “nuclear option” I’m referring to
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:13 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:09 am

I am not. The entire economic theory has been well insulated and protected all along. The nuclear option could have been used at anytime.
What is the “nuclear option” I’m referring to
You’re not the boss of me. Ask politely instead of demanding an answer.

Senate rules involving a simple majority and the filibuster.
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kalm wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:24 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:13 am

What is the “nuclear option” I’m referring to
You’re not the boss of me. Ask politely instead of demanding an answer.

Senate rules involving a simple majority and the filibuster.
You’re no shining example of being polite :lol:

I was using the term “nuclear option” as something that would be available to any healthy young person, but that your thought of it today is radioactive to a young person
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:28 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:24 am

You’re not the boss of me. Ask politely instead of demanding an answer.

Senate rules involving a simple majority and the filibuster.
You’re no shining example of being polite :lol:

I was using the term “nuclear option” as something that would be available to any healthy young person, but that your thought of it today is radioactive to a young person
Huh? What?
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kalm wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:29 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:28 am

You’re no shining example of being polite :lol:

I was using the term “nuclear option” as something that would be available to any healthy young person, but that your thought of it today is radioactive to a young person
Huh? What?
Seriously? You are definitely proving my point.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 8:47 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 8:36 am

So you’re ok with it becoming far worse than when you grew up? Right.
I shake my head at the people who point fingers and cast blame and make excuses.

I didn’t do any of that, and all those young people today that say, we don’t have the same opportunities that the boomers did are not being honest with themselves. They have the same opportunities that I did.

They just don’t wanna make all the sacrifices that is required
Then you shake your head at trump. :coffee:
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:34 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:29 am

Huh? What?
Seriously? You are definitely proving my point.
Free associate much?
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kalm wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 11:11 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:34 am

Seriously? You are definitely proving my point.
Free associate much?
Go take a nap
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 12:20 pm
kalm wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 11:11 am

Free associate much?
Go take a nap
Great idea! I’ll dream of a day when you start making some sense and can carry on a reasonable conversation.

Thank you
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kalm wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 1:18 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 12:20 pm

Go take a nap
Great idea! I’ll dream of a day when you start making some sense and can carry on a reasonable conversation.

Thank you
Oh, you’ve been struggling mighty keeping track of what I’ve told you… and you have no chance whatsoever of connecting any dots
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 2:10 pm
kalm wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 1:18 pm

Great idea! I’ll dream of a day when you start making some sense and can carry on a reasonable conversation.

Thank you
Oh, you’ve been struggling mighty keeping track of what I’ve told you… and you have no chance whatsoever of connecting any dots
I try. You’re just a bit disjointed in your thoughts.

Do you understand what free association is?
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kalm wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 3:53 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 2:10 pm

Oh, you’ve been struggling mighty keeping track of what I’ve told you… and you have no chance whatsoever of connecting any dots
I try. You’re just a bit disjointed in your thoughts.

Do you understand what free association is?
Smoking weed?
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 8:47 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 8:36 am

So you’re ok with it becoming far worse than when you grew up? Right.
I shake my head at the people who point fingers and cast blame and make excuses.

I didn’t do any of that, and all those young people today that say, we don’t have the same opportunities that the boomers did are not being honest with themselves. They have the same opportunities that I did.

They just don’t wanna make all the sacrifices that is required
Yep. I hear it from my brother who is a school teacher. Kids now a days are lazy as F compared to when we were growing up. Last 20 years gotten fat, lazy, and spend most of the day looking at a screen. Coincides with smartphones & rise of social media.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 4:35 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 8:47 am
I shake my head at the people like Donald J Trump who point fingers and cast blame and make excuses.

I didn’t do any of that, and all those young people today that say, we don’t have the same opportunities that the boomers did are not being honest with themselves. They have the same opportunities that I did.

They just don’t wanna make all the sacrifices that is required
Yep. I hear it from my brother who is a school teacher. Kids now a days are lazy as F compared to when we were growing up. Last 20 years gotten fat, lazy, and spend most of the day looking at a screen. Coincides with smartphones & rise of social media.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 4:35 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 8:47 am

I shake my head at the people who point fingers and cast blame and make excuses.

I didn’t do any of that, and all those young people today that say, we don’t have the same opportunities that the boomers did are not being honest with themselves. They have the same opportunities that I did.

They just don’t wanna make all the sacrifices that is required
Yep. I hear it from my brother who is a school teacher. Kids now a days are lazy as F compared to when we were growing up. Last 20 years gotten fat, lazy, and spend most of the day looking at a screen. Coincides with smartphones & rise of social media.
So it’s on us adults.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 4:29 pm
kalm wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 3:53 pm

I try. You’re just a bit disjointed in your thoughts.

Do you understand what free association is?
Smoking weed?
I didn’t think you knew what it is. You might want to look into it.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 4:35 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 8:47 am

I shake my head at the people who point fingers and cast blame and make excuses.

I didn’t do any of that, and all those young people today that say, we don’t have the same opportunities that the boomers did are not being honest with themselves. They have the same opportunities that I did.

They just don’t wanna make all the sacrifices that is required
Yep. I hear it from my brother who is a school teacher. Kids now a days are lazy as F compared to when we were growing up. Last 20 years gotten fat, lazy, and spend most of the day looking at a screen. Coincides with smartphones & rise of social media.
Truth!
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kalm wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 5:56 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 4:29 pm

Smoking weed?
I didn’t think you knew what it is. You might want to look into it.
Pat yourself on the back if knowing what that is makes you feel better about yourself
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 6:22 pm
kalm wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 5:56 pm

I didn’t think you knew what it is. You might want to look into it.
Pat yourself on the back if knowing what that is makes you feel better about yourself
It makes me feel better about understanding what drives me. I simply see a fellow traveler in you.

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