Epstein Arrested

[Caribbean Hen]

The "true victims" are the young, vulnerable people who were exploited by people (epstein, maxwell & their wealthy/powerful friends and clients) and by a system that enabled the abuse.

Should "true victims" right to justice be sacrificed to protect those mentioned who had nothing to do with epstein's crimes? Can those adults not stand up and defend themselves and justify their connections better than the "true victims" were able to?

You didn't answer the question, so we'll get to that in a second, but are you effing kidding me?

We're still in the United States and this is a place where nobody has to "stand up" and prove their innocence or "justify" or "defend" who they associate with. We have this fundamental right called the presumption of innocence that is guaranteed in the 5th amendment to the Constitution.

You didn't answer the question i posed earlier even though it was clear and concise. For your sake, I'll try again.

We all know what constitutes a "true victim" here. The question is...again.

Who will be the person or people responsible to determine who the "true victims" are and who are the ones making unsubstantiated claims?

I've answered the question of why weren't those files released a long time ago several times ...

What?
Releasing or better yet, leaking files about Trump are not contingent on releasing files on Bill Clinton or any other Donk. They have tried everything to get Trump: multiple impeachments, lawsuits, debanking, criminal cases (they even changed NY law to specifically target they guy), assassination attempts, and whatever else I've forgotten. If there was anything whatsoever in those files that could destroy Trump, it would have been leaked. There is absolutely no doubt about that.

You mock my "altered state of anit-Trump sickness" while acting as if you're not in an altered state of trump worship. tDS is a "disease" that goes both ways. Some like myself and kalm can be accused of having Type I, some like yourself, BDK, CH, and SG can be accused of having Type II.

You think I worship Trump?
Go back in this forum and search. Its there. I have stated how much I dislike Trump multiple times. I can even remember having an exchange with you (I think it was with you) back when you went full anti-Trump retard begging you to stop making such silly statements because I did not want to have to defend the guy.

Both Klamdami and Ole Yellar 88 have serious memory issues

Both are desperately seeking a real MAGA yahoo

[UNI88]

The "true victims" are the young, vulnerable people who were exploited by people (epstein, maxwell & their wealthy/powerful friends and clients) and by a system that enabled the abuse.

Should "true victims" right to justice be sacrificed to protect those mentioned who had nothing to do with epstein's crimes? Can those adults not stand up and defend themselves and justify their connections better than the "true victims" were able to?

You didn't answer the question, so we'll get to that in a second, but are you effing kidding me?

We're still in the United States and this is a place where nobody has to "stand up" and prove their innocence or "justify" or "defend" who they associate with. We have this fundamental right called the presumption of innocence that is guaranteed in the 5th amendment to the Constitution.

You didn't answer the question i posed earlier even though it was clear and concise. For your sake, I'll try again.

We all know what constitutes a "true victim" here. The question is...again.

Who will be the person or people responsible to determine who the "true victims" are and who are the ones making unsubstantiated claims?

I've answered the question of why weren't those files released a long time ago several times ...

What?
Releasing or better yet, leaking files about Trump are not contingent on releasing files on Bill Clinton or any other Donk. They have tried everything to get Trump: multiple impeachments, lawsuits, debanking, criminal cases (they even changed NY law to specifically target they guy), assassination attempts, and whatever else I've forgotten. If there was anything whatsoever in those files that could destroy Trump, it would have been leaked. There is absolutely no doubt about that.

You mock my "altered state of anit-Trump sickness" while acting as if you're not in an altered state of trump worship. tDS is a "disease" that goes both ways. Some like myself and kalm can be accused of having Type I, some like yourself, BDK, CH, and SG can be accused of having Type II.

You think I worship Trump?
Go back in this forum and search. Its there. I have stated how much I dislike Trump multiple times. I can even remember having an exchange with you (I think it was with you) back when you went full anti-Trump retard begging you to stop making such silly statements because I did not want to have to defend the guy.

You're right "We're still in the United States and this is a place where nobody has to "stand up" and prove their innocence or "justify" or "defend" who they associate with. We have this fundamental right called the presumption of innocence that is guaranteed in the 5th amendment to the Constitution." Funny you never bring that up when trump or his circle of cronies stomp all over it like when they call Renee Good or Alex Pretti domestic terrorists or accuse them of attacking ICE/CBP. Why is okay when they aren't presumed innocent until proven guilty?

That is your opnion on why the files weren't released. It ties in nicely with the trump is an innocent victim hoax. I have a different and just as reasonable opinion.

How far back do I have to go? When were you last really critical of trump? Why do you jump to his defense so quickly now?

I am a small L libertarian - I value our Constitution and civil liberties over any President. What trump is attempting to do to our civil liberties, separation of powers, etc. should concern any rational American citizen.

[kalm]

You didn't answer the question, so we'll get to that in a second, but are you effing kidding me?

We're still in the United States and this is a place where nobody has to "stand up" and prove their innocence or "justify" or "defend" who they associate with. We have this fundamental right called the presumption of innocence that is guaranteed in the 5th amendment to the Constitution.

You didn't answer the question i posed earlier even though it was clear and concise. For your sake, I'll try again.

We all know what constitutes a "true victim" here. The question is...again.

Who will be the person or people responsible to determine who the "true victims" are and who are the ones making unsubstantiated claims?


What?
Releasing or better yet, leaking files about Trump are not contingent on releasing files on Bill Clinton or any other Donk. They have tried everything to get Trump: multiple impeachments, lawsuits, debanking, criminal cases (they even changed NY law to specifically target they guy), assassination attempts, and whatever else I've forgotten. If there was anything whatsoever in those files that could destroy Trump, it would have been leaked. There is absolutely no doubt about that.


You think I worship Trump?
Go back in this forum and search. Its there. I have stated how much I dislike Trump multiple times. I can even remember having an exchange with you (I think it was with you) back when you went full anti-Trump retard begging you to stop making such silly statements because I did not want to have to defend the guy.

Both Klamdami and Ole Yellar 88 have serious memory issues

Both are desperately seeking a real MAGA yahoo

Maybe Baldy should try not defending him? Just a thought.

As I’ve stated before…thoroughly investigate and throw the book at ANY one suspected and guilty of child sex crimes and rape. From DJT to Noem Chomsky.

They didn’t create 7 million documents of nothing.

[kalm]

38,000 is quite a few mentions. Donnie’s choice not to release everything. DOJ’s choice whether to investigate and if necessary, prosecute.

[kalm]

But it’s just a hoax.

[Caribbean Hen]

38,000 is quite a few mentions. Donnie’s choice not to release everything. DOJ’s choice whether to investigate and if necessary, prosecute.

Alan Dersowhich already talked about numerous wild claims made against him that were in the Epstein files. Every one of them has been totally debunked.

[kalm]

38,000 is quite a few mentions. Donnie’s choice not to release everything. DOJ’s choice whether to investigate and if necessary, prosecute.

Alan Dersowhich already talked about numerous wild claims made against him that were in the Epstein files. Every one of them has been totally debunked.

[kalm]

[Baldy]

38,000 is quite a few mentions. Donnie’s choice not to release everything. DOJ’s choice whether to investigate and if necessary, prosecute.

Quite telling that the Pedo Project would be all over this.

So many of these claims are beyond preposterous. Please don't tell me you actually believe this.

[UNI88]

38,000 is quite a few mentions. Donnie’s choice not to release everything. DOJ’s choice whether to investigate and if necessary, prosecute.

Quite telling that the Pedo Project would be all over this.

So many of these claims are beyond preposterous. Please don't tell me you actually believe this.

38,000 references is a shit ton. Add them to his friendship with epstein (that seemed to end more because epstein recruited a trump staffer than concern over what epstein was doing), 26+ allegations of rape/sexual assault, stories of him barging into pageant dressing rooms (including teen pageants), "you can grab them by the pussy", etc. and there's plenty of reason to question whether trump is a sexual predator and possibly a pedophile.

Sticking your head in the sand and pretending otherwise doesn't make it go away.

Prosecute the trump and members of the Lincoln project if they're pedophiles or sexual assaulters.

[kalm]

38,000 is quite a few mentions. Donnie’s choice not to release everything. DOJ’s choice whether to investigate and if necessary, prosecute.

Quite telling that the Pedo Project would be all over this.

So many of these claims are beyond preposterous. Please don't tell me you actually believe this.

No shit?

How about you recognize the likely possibility there’s more than just a with hunt here.

[kalm]

I’ve never seen a hungry looking kid using SNAP card. They’re all fat little porkers buying potato chips and chocolate chip cookies for breakfast

Ummm…they’re still kids, right? Are you blaming them now?

We live in an economically diverse school district. There are kids whose parent is in a nearby corrections facility. A military town is included with at risk retired air force families and tons of minimum wage service sector jobs.

My son used to stuff extra food in his backpack for kids he knew would only see one meal that day.

[Caribbean Hen]

I’ve never seen a hungry looking kid using SNAP card. They’re all fat little porkers buying potato chips and chocolate chip cookies for breakfast

Ummm…they’re still kids, right? Are you blaming them now?

We live in an economically diverse school district. There are kids whose parent is in a nearby corrections facility. A military town is included with at risk retired air force families and tons of minimum wage service sector jobs.

My son used to stuff extra food in his backpack for kids he knew would only see one meal that day.

Of course I’m not blaming the kids. I have always blamed you and your “kindness” for this type of torture and abuse

[Baldy]

Both Klamdami and Ole Yellar 88 have serious memory issues

Both are desperately seeking a real MAGA yahoo

Maybe Baldy should try not defending him? Just a thought.

As I’ve stated before…thoroughly investigate and throw the book at ANY one suspected and guilty of child sex crimes and rape. From DJT to Noem Chomsky.

They didn’t create 7 million documents of nothing.

I'm defending common sense here, but unfortunately, it isn't so common nowadays.

Just like common sense should be telling you that George Bush #1 didn't rape and chop the feet off some guy in some sort of ritual, and Trump, both his sons, Ivanka, and whoever else this person claims were there weren't running some sort of slave market out of Maralago.

The sad part is that you and UNI seem to be so blinded by hatred and rage wish that this silly shit were true that you two do not have the capacity any longer to simply say...yeah that is a ridiculous claim and shouldn't be taken at face value.

[Baldy]

Quite telling that the Pedo Project would be all over this.

So many of these claims are beyond preposterous. Please don't tell me you actually believe this.

No shit?

How about you recognize the likely possibility there’s more than just a with hunt here.

You know as well as I that if there were anything in those files that could bury Trump that actually had a scintilla of merit whatsoever, it would have been leaked a long time ago.

[Baldy]

Quite telling that the Pedo Project would be all over this.

So many of these claims are beyond preposterous. Please don't tell me you actually believe this.

38,000 references is a shit ton. Add them to his friendship with epstein (that seemed to end more because epstein recruited a trump staffer than concern over what epstein was doing), 26+ allegations of rape/sexual assault, stories of him barging into pageant dressing rooms (including teen pageants), "you can grab them by the pussy", etc. and there's plenty of reason to question whether trump is a sexual predator and possibly a pedophile.

Sticking your head in the sand and pretending otherwise doesn't make it go away.

Prosecute the trump and members of the Lincoln project if they're pedophiles or sexual assaulters.

The entire world has known that Trump is a pig for 40+ years now, so almost nobody cares about your 30-40 year old whataboutisms.

For the third time you haven't answered a question.

Are you so sick in the head that you actually believe the accusation in this post that the entire Trump family (including Ivanka) along with Elon Musk and everyone else mentioned in the claim were actually running a child sex slave market out of Maralago?

[UNI88]

38,000 references is a shit ton. Add them to his friendship with epstein (that seemed to end more because epstein recruited a trump staffer than concern over what epstein was doing), 26+ allegations of rape/sexual assault, stories of him barging into pageant dressing rooms (including teen pageants), "you can grab them by the pussy", etc. and there's plenty of reason to question whether trump is a sexual predator and possibly a pedophile.

Sticking your head in the sand and pretending otherwise doesn't make it go away.

Prosecute the trump and members of the Lincoln project if they're pedophiles or sexual assaulters.

The entire world has known that Trump is a pig for 40+ years now, so almost nobody cares about your 30-40 year old whataboutisms.

For the third time you haven't answered a question.

Are you so sick in the head that you actually believe the accusation in this post that the entire Trump family (including Ivanka) along with Elon Musk and everyone else mentioned in the claim were actually running a child sex slave market out of Maralago?

Disagreeing with you or disliking Trump isn’t rage. Pointing out inconsistent standards isn’t hatred. Some claims are obviously absurd — that doesn’t justify dismissing everything without review or applying different standards depending on who’s implicated. If absurd claims are the concern, that standard should apply consistently, including when Trump and his sycophants amplify things like QAnon or calling people domestic terrorists with no presumption of innocence.

And you're correct, common sense isn't so common. That is just as true of MAQA as it is of any who dislike/oppose trump.

[kalm]

38,000 is quite a few mentions. Donnie’s choice not to release everything. DOJ’s choice whether to investigate and if necessary, prosecute.

Quite telling that the Pedo Project would be all over this.

So many of these claims are beyond preposterous. Please don't tell me you actually believe this.

Many of which? The 38,000? I’m sure there are some ridiculousness statements and accusations…among the 38,000. Which was my point. Don’t tell me you’re so triggered or unaware to not understand my post.

[Baldy]

Quite telling that the Pedo Project would be all over this.

So many of these claims are beyond preposterous. Please don't tell me you actually believe this.

Many of which? The 38,000? I’m sure there are some ridiculousness statements and accusations…among the 38,000. Which was my point. Don’t tell me you’re so triggered or unaware to not understand my post.

Your posts are quite easy to understand because they're all the same. You go remarkably out of the way to not make definitive statements or answer simple, clear, concise questions. I will try one more time:

Do you actually believe that the entire Trump family (including Ivanka) with Elon Musk and the like are or were running a child sex slave market out of Maralago?

[kalm]

Many of which? The 38,000? I’m sure there are some ridiculousness statements and accusations…among the 38,000. Which was my point. Don’t tell me you’re so triggered or unaware to not understand my post.

Your posts are quite easy to understand because they're all the same. You go remarkably out of the way to not make definitive statements or answer simple, clear, concise questions. I will try one more time:

Do you actually believe that the entire Trump family (including Ivanka) with Elon Musk and the like are or were running a child sex slave market out of Maralago?

Likely no. Why?

[Skjellyfetti]

Many of which? The 38,000? I’m sure there are some ridiculousness statements and accusations…among the 38,000. Which was my point. Don’t tell me you’re so triggered or unaware to not understand my post.

Your posts are quite easy to understand because they're all the same. You go remarkably out of the way to not make definitive statements or answer simple, clear, concise questions. I will try one more time:

Do you actually believe that the entire Trump family (including Ivanka) with Elon Musk and the like are or were running a child sex slave market out of Maralago?

Likewise, do you believe Epstein only ever trafficked women for himself?

[kalm]

Your posts are quite easy to understand because they're all the same. You go remarkably out of the way to not make definitive statements or answer simple, clear, concise questions. I will try one more time:

Do you actually believe that the entire Trump family (including Ivanka) with Elon Musk and the like are or were running a child sex slave market out of Maralago?

Likewise, do you believe Epstein only ever trafficked women for himself?

Yep…it was a ma and pop organization…