US Strikes Iran Part 2.

[kalm]

[SeattleGriz]

Being the morality police over a simple concept you don't understand, doesn't speak to you loving anyone.

You don't get it either.

Simple question. When you gave your children a gift, did you take it away later because they were bad?

On a separate note, remember when you backed out of enlightening us on your beliefs?

[UNI88]

You don't get it either.

Simple question. When you gave your children a gift, did you take it away later because they were bad?

On a separate note, remember when you backed out of enlightening us on your beliefs?

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You don't get it either.

You calling kalm or I "morality police" is itself being a form of "morality police".

Railing against woke, DEI, etc. is also being the "morality police.

Forcing teachers to display the 10 Commandments in their classroom or requiring the Bible be a part of the curriculum is also being the "morality police".

When did I back out of enlightening you on my beliefs? Give me a link to the post. I'm one of the most open posters on this board about my beliefs.

[UNI88]

[kalm]

[SeattleGriz]

You don't get it either.

Simple question. When you gave your children a gift, did you take it away later because they were bad?

On a separate note, remember when you backed out of enlightening us on your beliefs?

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You don't get it either.

You calling kalm or I "morality police" is itself being a form of "morality police".

Railing against woke, DEI, etc. is also being the "morality police.

Forcing teachers to display the 10 Commandments in their classroom or requiring the Bible be a part of the curriculum is also being the "morality police".

When did I back out of enlightening you on my beliefs? Give me a link to the post. I'm one of the most open posters on this board about my beliefs.

You don't even understand your own argument. It's always Christians aren't living up to Jesus standards. Nobody can live up to those standards and thus Grace. You keep comparing everyday Christians to Jesus, which is idiotic. That why you and Kamala are morality police.

Well, if you're an open book, let's hear your beliefs.

[UNI88]

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You don't get it either.

You calling kalm or I "morality police" is itself being a form of "morality police".

Railing against woke, DEI, etc. is also being the "morality police.

Forcing teachers to display the 10 Commandments in their classroom or requiring the Bible be a part of the curriculum is also being the "morality police".

When did I back out of enlightening you on my beliefs? Give me a link to the post. I'm one of the most open posters on this board about my beliefs.

You don't even understand your own argument. It's always Christians aren't living up to Jesus standards. Nobody can live up to those standards and thus Grace. You keep comparing everyday Christians to Jesus, which is idiotic. That why you and Kamala are morality police.

Well, if you're an open book, let's hear your beliefs.

Bullshit! I'm not comparing everyday people who self-identify as Christian to Jesus or expecting them to live up to Jesus's standards. I understand that every one is flawed and deserves some grace. I do expect people who self-identify as Christians to at least make an effort to follow jesus' teachings and love their neighbor, care for the less fortunate, etc. and I'm critical of them when it appears that they're thumbing their noses at those teachings while continuing to self-identify as Christians. Don't like it? Go complain to the fvck your feelings crowd that I'm hurting your feelings.

Why don't kalm and I get any grace?

My beliefs? "Well, I believe in the soul, the cock, the pussy, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days."

Seriously it would take hours to type up all my beliefs and I'm not going to do that so what beliefs did i back out of enlightening you about? Be specific and provide a link or STFU.

[SeattleGriz]

You don't even understand your own argument. It's always Christians aren't living up to Jesus standards. Nobody can live up to those standards and thus Grace. You keep comparing everyday Christians to Jesus, which is idiotic. That why you and Kamala are morality police.

Well, if you're an open book, let's hear your beliefs.

Bullshit! I'm not comparing everyday people who self-identify as Christian to Jesus or expecting them to live up to Jesus's standards. I understand that every one is flawed and deserves some grace. I do expect people who self-identify as Christians to at least make an effort to follow jesus' teachings and love their neighbor, care for the less fortunate, etc. and I'm critical of them when it appears that they're thumbing their noses at those teachings while continuing to self-identify as Christians. Don't like it? Go complain to the fvck your feelings crowd that I'm hurting your feelings.

Why don't kalm and I get any grace?

My beliefs? "Well, I believe in the soul, the cock, the pussy, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days."

Seriously it would take hours to type up all my beliefs and I'm not going to do that so what beliefs did i back out of enlightening you about? Be specific and provide a link or STFU.

God.

[UNI88]

Bullshit! I'm not comparing everyday people who self-identify as Christian to Jesus or expecting them to live up to Jesus's standards. I understand that every one is flawed and deserves some grace. I do expect people who self-identify as Christians to at least make an effort to follow jesus' teachings and love their neighbor, care for the less fortunate, etc. and I'm critical of them when it appears that they're thumbing their noses at those teachings while continuing to self-identify as Christians. Don't like it? Go complain to the fvck your feelings crowd that I'm hurting your feelings.

Why don't kalm and I get any grace?

My beliefs? "Well, I believe in the soul, the cock, the pussy, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days."

Seriously it would take hours to type up all my beliefs and I'm not going to do that so what beliefs did i back out of enlightening you about? Be specific and provide a link or STFU.

God.

I'm probably more of a pantheist than anything else.

Why don't you give kalm and I the same type of grace you think we fail to give people who self-identify as Christians?

[kalm]

God.

I'm probably more of a pantheist than anything else.

Why don't you give kalm and I the same type of grace you think we fail to give people who self-identify as Christians?

I like pantheism and animism both. To be honest, I enjoy the teachings of most prophets and religions. I’m equally as interested in philosophy….especially Buddhism and stoicism.

The stars, a beautiful sunset, deep meditation, love, music, the rise of a trout to a bwo mayfly….these are when I feel closest to god. When I feel small while appreciating the mysteries, expansiveness, ad sheer wonderment at not just our planet but of the greater universe. If there is a god, this how they present themselves.

[Caribbean Hen]

I'm probably more of a pantheist than anything else.

Why don't you give kalm and I the same type of grace you think we fail to give people who self-identify as Christians?

I like pantheism and animism both. To be honest, I enjoy the teachings of most prophets and religions. I’m equally as interested in philosophy….especially Buddhism and stoicism.

The stars, a beautiful sunset, deep meditation, love, music, the rise of a trout to a bwo mayfly….these are when I feel closest to god. When I feel small while appreciating the mysteries, expansiveness, ad sheer wonderment at not just our planet but of the greater universe. If there is a god, this how they present themselves.

Hush

I’ve noticed on here you only mock one religion, all the other ones you praise

Not good

[kalm]

I like pantheism and animism both. To be honest, I enjoy the teachings of most prophets and religions. I’m equally as interested in philosophy….especially Buddhism and stoicism.

The stars, a beautiful sunset, deep meditation, love, music, the rise of a trout to a bwo mayfly….these are when I feel closest to god. When I feel small while appreciating the mysteries, expansiveness, ad sheer wonderment at not just our planet but of the greater universe. If there is a god, this how they present themselves.

Hush

I’ve noticed on here you only mock one religion, all the other ones you praise

Not good

Not true.

I dislike all religious fanaticism from zealots to zionists to jihadists. I mention Christian’s more due to proximity and negative effects on my culture.

If fanatics are harmless and don’t try to impose their rules, I’m honestly ok with them. But they are still fair game to mock.

In many cases, weaker minded, ignorant people need the fatherly type culture of strict churches. Fear keeps them out of trouble.

Speaking of which, when was the last time you attended?

[Caribbean Hen]

Hush

I’ve noticed on here you only mock one religion, all the other ones you praise

Not good

Not true.

I dislike all religious fanaticism from zealots to zionists to jihadists. I mention Christian’s more due to proximity and negative effects on my culture.

If fanatics are harmless and don’t try to impose their rules, I’m honestly ok with them. But they are still fair game to mock.

In many cases, weaker minded, ignorant people need the fatherly type culture of strict churches. Fear keeps them out of trouble.

Speaking of which, when was the last time you attended?

I don’t attend church and I never claimed to on here

I did have a personal one on one with Jesus yesterday, I could see him up on that cross suffering for us and I thanked him for what he did

Does that make me a Christian? I don’t know

[UNI88]

Not true.

I dislike all religious fanaticism from zealots to zionists to jihadists. I mention Christian’s more due to proximity and negative effects on my culture.

If fanatics are harmless and don’t try to impose their rules, I’m honestly ok with them. But they are still fair game to mock.

In many cases, weaker minded, ignorant people need the fatherly type culture of strict churches. Fear keeps them out of trouble.

Speaking of which, when was the last time you attended?

I don’t attend church and I never claimed to on here

I did have a personal one on one with Jesus yesterday, I could see him up on that cross suffering for us and I thanked him for what he did

Does that make me a Christian? I don’t know

Jesus doesn't recall the conversation but he appreciates your support ...

[UNI88]

Search for missing airman presents serious test for US

President Donald Trump had said Iran couldn't "do a thing" about American aircraft operating over its territory, insisting its air defences had been significantly weakened.

His Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth also said the US had achieved "air superiority" over Iran.

So, Friday's downing of a F-15 Eagle is a significant blow to Washington DC.

It suggests Iran is still able to defend its skies, even if at a limited capacity.
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If the missing American is found by Iranian forces, the implications could be profound. At the very least, it would be a political embarrassment for Washington.

The US airman could be paraded as a propaganda tool, which would bring back grim reminders of the 1979 Iran hostage crisis, when American diplomats were held for 444 days.

I hope he's found and we're able to avoid those profound implications.

[SeattleGriz]

God.

I'm probably more of a pantheist than anything else.

Why don't you give kalm and I the same type of grace you think we fail to give people who self-identify as Christians?

I'll give you all the Grace you deserve. Don't confuse me being an ahole about what Jesus did.

[UNI88]

I'm probably more of a pantheist than anything else.

Why don't you give kalm and I the same type of grace you think we fail to give people who self-identify as Christians?

I'll give you all the Grace you deserve. Don't confuse me being an ahole about what Jesus did.

And I'll give MAQA yahoo evangelicals who self identify as Christians all the grace they deserve.

[UNI88]

I'm probably more of a pantheist than anything else.

Why don't you give kalm and I the same type of grace you think we fail to give people who self-identify as Christians?

I like pantheism and animism both. To be honest, I enjoy the teachings of most prophets and religions. I’m equally as interested in philosophy….especially Buddhism and stoicism.

The stars, a beautiful sunset, deep meditation, love, music, the rise of a trout to a bwo mayfly….these are when I feel closest to god. When I feel small while appreciating the mysteries, expansiveness, ad sheer wonderment at not just our planet but of the greater universe. If there is a god, this how they present themselves.

I could add some animism plus deism and unitarianism to what I believe.

[BDKJMU]

Search for missing airman presents serious test for US

President Donald Trump had said Iran couldn't "do a thing" about American aircraft operating over its territory, insisting its air defences had been significantly weakened.

His Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth also said the US had achieved "air superiority" over Iran.

So, Friday's downing of a F-15 Eagle is a significant blow to Washington DC.

It suggests Iran is still able to defend its skies, even if at a limited capacity.
...
If the missing American is found by Iranian forces, the implications could be profound. At the very least, it would be a political embarrassment for Washington.

The US airman could be paraded as a propaganda tool, which would bring back grim reminders of the 1979 Iran hostage crisis, when American diplomats were held for 444 days.

I hope he's found and we're able to avoid those profound implications.

According to Google AI US planes lost by war (crashed because shot down by enemy or friendly fire, mechanical, destroyed on ground).
-65,164 WW II (22,948 combat)
-2,714 Korean War
-10,000 Vietnam
-160 Afghanistan & Iraq)
-10 Iran (5 shot down (2 by friendly fire)
https://www.globalmilitary.net/conflicts/iran-2026/

It’s never going to be zero. But out of thousands and of sorties in 5 1/2 weeks to lose that few planes is virtually unheard of.

[kalm]

I like pantheism and animism both. To be honest, I enjoy the teachings of most prophets and religions. I’m equally as interested in philosophy….especially Buddhism and stoicism.

The stars, a beautiful sunset, deep meditation, love, music, the rise of a trout to a bwo mayfly….these are when I feel closest to god. When I feel small while appreciating the mysteries, expansiveness, ad sheer wonderment at not just our planet but of the greater universe. If there is a god, this how they present themselves.

I could add some animism plus deism and unitarianism to what I believe.

Oh heck yeah.

And quakers intrigue me as well. I think they’re based somewhat on Christianity?

[UNI88]

Search for missing airman presents serious test for US
I hope he's found and we're able to avoid those profound implications.

According to Google AI US planes lost by war (crashed because shot down by enemy or friendly fire, mechanical, destroyed on ground).
-65,164 WW II (22,948 combat)
-2,714 Korean War
-10,000 Vietnam
-160 Afghanistan & Iraq)
-10 Iran (5 shot down (2 by friendly fire)
https://www.globalmilitary.net/conflicts/iran-2026/

It’s never going to be zero. But out of thousands and of sorties in 5 1/2 weeks to lose that few planes is virtually unheard of.

Sure that's true in a reasonable world. Unfortunately, we live is a "stupid" world where trump said "Iran couldn't 'do a thing' about American aircraft operating over its territory" and has earned the criticism/mockery for saying something that "stupid" regardless of your deflections.


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[Skjellyfetti]

-160 Afghanistan & Iraq)

This covers 20 fucking years and two wars. How many of those were shot down? I'd bet all but a tiny percentage of planes lost were mechanical failures or accidents.

[Caribbean Hen]

-160 Afghanistan & Iraq)

This covers 20 fucking years and two wars. How many of those were shot down? I'd bet all but a tiny percentage of planes lost were mechanical failures or accidents.

“U.S. forces have located and evacuated the missing weapons systems officer who was downed over Iran, two senior US officials and multiple well placed sources in the region confirmed to Fox News.”



Miraculously saved !

[UNI88]

This covers 20 fucking years and two wars. How many of those were shot down? I'd bet all but a tiny percentage of planes lost were mechanical failures or accidents.

“U.S. forces have located and evacuated the missing weapons systems officer who was downed over Iran, two senior US officials and multiple well placed sources in the region confirmed to Fox News.”



Miraculously saved !

Thankfully ... !

Doesn't change the reality the BDK's war comparison stats are crap. You can't compare Iran to WWII, Korea or even Vietnam where we didn't enjoy the kind of air superiority that trump and Whiskeyleaks have bragged we have achieved. Iraq and Afghanistan are much better comparisons but if you break down the number of planes actually shot down by the number of years the war lasted, trump's Iran War is not doing well in comparison.

Time to go back to the MAQA yahoo echo chambers and find some more FAKE NEWS or statistics to post in attempt to but, but, but distraction/deflection from the Charlie Foxtrot that Iran is becoming.

[Caribbean Hen]

“U.S. forces have located and evacuated the missing weapons systems officer who was downed over Iran, two senior US officials and multiple well placed sources in the region confirmed to Fox News.”



Miraculously saved !

Thankfully ... !

Doesn't change the reality the BDK's war comparison stats are crap. You can't compare Iran to WWII, Korea or even Vietnam where we didn't enjoy the kind of air superiority that trump and Whiskeyleaks have bragged we have achieved. Iraq and Afghanistan are much better comparisons but if you break down the number of planes actually shot down by the number of years the war lasted, trump's Iran War is not doing well in comparison.

Time to go back to the MAQA yahoo echo chambers and find some more FAKE NEWS or statistics to post in attempt to but, but, but distraction/deflection from the Charlie Foxtrot that Iran is becoming.

Stop

The Iranians got very lucky hitting this aircraft …