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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2026 10:35 pm
kalm wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2026 9:58 am

So if the U.S. government had done nothing, we’d have less deaths?
Well no not less but don’t underestimate the incompetence of the government and the coverups of the origin of the virus…. We were being manipulated and lied too for way to long in the schools never should’ve been shut down…

Young healthy people didn’t really have much to worry about

The elderly, immuno suppressed and unhealthy were vulnerable…. Protect them and let everyone else go on with their daily lives

The NY Governor killed how many all by himself?

The never needed to make the vaccine mandatory for the entire Federal government …. I still remember Joey Rotten mumbling about the winter of death if you do t take the vaccine …. WTF ….
Your red herrings aside, 15 million people died world wide in the first two years. Vaccines slowed not only death rates by reducing spread but # of infections which can produce long term organ damage and health issues not to mention loss time from work, economic productivity, etc.

As I’ve stated many times, inconveniences and short term economic issues like inflation and supply chain disruption are worth the sacrifice if we’re talking about potentially millions of lives saved. And despite the selfish whining of preventative measures like social distancing, masks, and vaccines, we still managed to recover in a relatively short time.

It becomes a question of morality regarding the sanctity of human life vs. temporary inconveniences.
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2026 7:14 pm And, Iran closes the strait again. Like clockwork.
Really? Because before the Strait was closed oil was around $68. During most of the close it was $90 to $115. Now it’s (WTI) $73.58.
So the market isn’t reacting like it’s closed.
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kalm wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2026 10:50 pm
Skjellyfetti wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2026 7:14 pm And, Iran closes the strait again. Like clockwork.
Total loss for the U.S. Iran is joining Israel as a ME superpower. They are having their way with us.
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kalm wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 8:22 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2026 10:35 pm

Well no not less but don’t underestimate the incompetence of the government and the coverups of the origin of the virus…. We were being manipulated and lied too for way to long in the schools never should’ve been shut down…

Young healthy people didn’t really have much to worry about

The elderly, immuno suppressed and unhealthy were vulnerable…. Protect them and let everyone else go on with their daily lives

The NY Governor killed how many all by himself?

The never needed to make the vaccine mandatory for the entire Federal government …. I still remember Joey Rotten mumbling about the winter of death if you do t take the vaccine …. WTF ….
Your red herrings aside, 15 million people died world wide in the first two years. Vaccines slowed not only death rates by reducing spread but # of infections which can produce long term organ damage and health issues not to mention loss time from work, economic productivity, etc.

As I’ve stated many times, inconveniences and short term economic issues like inflation and supply chain disruption are worth the sacrifice if we’re talking about potentially millions of lives saved. And despite the selfish whining of preventative measures like social distancing, masks, and vaccines, we still managed to recover in a relatively short time.

It becomes a question of morality regarding the sanctity of human life vs. temporary inconveniences.
Those price increases of 2021-2023 are still here. Newsflash: They are forever: they aren’t ever going away.
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 9:34 am
kalm wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 8:22 am

Your red herrings aside, 15 million people died world wide in the first two years. Vaccines slowed not only death rates by reducing spread but # of infections which can produce long term organ damage and health issues not to mention loss time from work, economic productivity, etc.

As I’ve stated many times, inconveniences and short term economic issues like inflation and supply chain disruption are worth the sacrifice if we’re talking about potentially millions of lives saved. And despite the selfish whining of preventative measures like social distancing, masks, and vaccines, we still managed to recover in a relatively short time.

It becomes a question of morality regarding the sanctity of human life vs. temporary inconveniences.
Those price increases of 2021-2023 are still here. Newsflash: They are forever: they aren’t ever going away.
Yep

And the virus didn’t do that

Our incompetent government did that but Klamdami sees all government actions as good
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 10:47 am
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 9:34 am
Those price increases of 2021-2023 are still here. Newsflash: They are forever: they aren’t ever going away.
Yep

And the virus didn’t do that

Our incompetent government did that but Klamdami sees all government actions as good
:roll:

Your opinion only on what caused price increases. And of course they don’t come back down. Why would companies not take advantage of that? Will the inflation caused by Trump return to what it was?
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kalm wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 12:19 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 10:47 am

Yep

And the virus didn’t do that

Our incompetent government did that but Klamdami sees all government actions as good
:roll:

Your opinion only on what caused price increases. And of course they don’t come back down. Why would companies not take advantage of that? Will the inflation caused by Trump return to what it was?
If you’re talking about gas prices… yes!

A lot of our government response to Covid was well. We gotta try something no matter how dumb.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 10:47 am
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 9:34 am
Those price increases of 2021-2023 are still here. Newsflash: They are forever: they aren’t ever going away.
Yep

And the virus didn’t do that

Our incompetent government did that but Klamdami sees all government actions as good
Yep. Klamdani wants to claim Econ 101 is an opinion. Print trillions of fiat currency (8 trillion in additional spending 2020-2023 from the magic $$$$ trees in DC in an 30 trillion annual economy and inflation will go up bigly.

Pay people extended enhanced unemployment for up to 1.5 years, then there will be labor shortages & labor costs will skyrocket which = prices have to be raised which = inflation.

Pay most families 3 rounds of stimulus 2020-2021 (3.2 k per adult, 2.5k per child, 11.4k for a family of 4, 14k today inflation adjusted) = too many trillions chasing too few goods and services = inflation.

And then interest rates have to be raised bigly (as they were but way too late by the incompetent Yellen) to try to tamp inflation is a double whammy.

After the 1st big Covid bill early 2020 during the 1st couple months when everyone was spazzing out, we would have been better off if govt had done nothing at all.
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kalm wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2026 9:40 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2026 8:12 pm

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I like the part that mRNA is a crappy platform. I can’t wait for his dissertation.
Got one word for you. Beccera. Yeah the guy who previously held RFKs position and oversaw COVID. RFK is an attorney as well, but spent his career ensuring the pharmaceutical industry has some checks. But you keep sucking up to corporations and selling your fellow man out like during Covid.

In regard to mRNA as a platform, I'll ask a simple question that doesn't require science. What is the history of bringing mRNA to the market and what is its target application?

It's a loser as a vaccine is the answer.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 4:34 pm
kalm wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2026 9:40 pm

:lol:

:nod:

I like the part that mRNA is a crappy platform. I can’t wait for his dissertation.
Got one word for you. Beccera. Yeah the guy who previously held RFKs position and oversaw COVID. RFK is an attorney as well, but spent his career ensuring the pharmaceutical industry has some checks. But you keep sucking up to corporations and selling your fellow man out like during Covid.

In regard to mRNA as a platform, I'll ask a simple question that doesn't require science. What is the history of bringing mRNA to the market and what is its target application?

It's a loser as a vaccine is the answer.
:lol:

Truth Social, where you get your ideas, is a corporation. So….

So you know enough to know how mRNA is currently in clinical trials for several different therapies from cancer to influenza yet you’ve seen enough evidence to determine it’s a loser.

I’m not a scientist. Tell me, is this how the scientific method, peer reviewed studies, and R&D works? Get to an advanced point in the process and then trust SG that it hasn’t been worth the work and $’s? Have you called Moderna yet to let them know yet?

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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2026 8:03 pm
it's like if Dubya gave the 'Mission Accomplished' speech once a week for months on end

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kalm wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 5:31 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 4:34 pm

Got one word for you. Beccera. Yeah the guy who previously held RFKs position and oversaw COVID. RFK is an attorney as well, but spent his career ensuring the pharmaceutical industry has some checks. But you keep sucking up to corporations and selling your fellow man out like during Covid.

In regard to mRNA as a platform, I'll ask a simple question that doesn't require science. What is the history of bringing mRNA to the market and what is its target application?

It's a loser as a vaccine is the answer.
:lol:

Truth Social, where you get your ideas, is a corporation. So….

So you know enough to know how mRNA is currently in clinical trials for several different therapies from cancer to influenza yet you’ve seen enough evidence to determine it’s a loser.

I’m not a scientist. Tell me, is this how the scientific method, peer reviewed studies, and R&D works? Get to an advanced point in the process and then trust SG that it hasn’t been worth the work and $’s? Have you called Moderna yet to let them know yet?

:lol:
Okay retard. Tell me how many applications of mRNA, outside of COVID, have been approved for usage?

You want to act all stupid, I'll treat you as such
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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2026 3:54 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 5:31 pm

:lol:

Truth Social, where you get your ideas, is a corporation. So….

So you know enough to know how mRNA is currently in clinical trials for several different therapies from cancer to influenza yet you’ve seen enough evidence to determine it’s a loser.

I’m not a scientist. Tell me, is this how the scientific method, peer reviewed studies, and R&D works? Get to an advanced point in the process and then trust SG that it hasn’t been worth the work and $’s? Have you called Moderna yet to let them know yet?

:lol:
Okay retard. Tell me how many applications of mRNA, outside of COVID, have been approved for usage?

You want to act all stupid, I'll treat you as such
Retard, eh? You must really be winning this debate! :lol:

I’m not sure any have. Im guessing few if not zero. I DO know that influenza is expected to be approved this year and there some extremely positive trial results for pancreatic cancer (which is a death sentence) and melanoma.
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kalm wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2026 9:32 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2026 3:54 pm

Okay retard. Tell me how many applications of mRNA, outside of COVID, have been approved for usage?

You want to act all stupid, I'll treat you as such
Retard, eh? You must really be winning this debate! :lol:

I’m not sure any have. Im guessing few if not zero. I DO know that influenza is expected to be approved this year and there some extremely positive trial results for pancreatic cancer (which is a death sentence) and melanoma.
Exactly. Over 20 years of effort to bring mRNA to market and the only way the product made it was via the Prep Act. mRNA is a shitty vaccine platform. It has value, unfortunately it's not in vaccines

Now I'm going to assume you have no clue what the Prep Act is about, or at least you'll play stupid like you always do.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2026 6:25 am
kalm wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2026 9:32 pm

Retard, eh? You must really be winning this debate! :lol:

I’m not sure any have. Im guessing few if not zero. I DO know that influenza is expected to be approved this year and there some extremely positive trial results for pancreatic cancer (which is a death sentence) and melanoma.
Exactly. Over 20 years of effort to bring mRNA to market and the only way the product made it was via the Prep Act. mRNA is a shitty vaccine platform. It has value, unfortunately it's not in vaccines

Now I'm going to assume you have no clue what the Prep Act is about, or at least you'll play stupid like you always do.
Omagosh! I just red up on it! Those sneaky bastards!!!! :rofl:

You’re ignoring the R&D that’s been going into mRNA after the success of the COVID vaccine. Maybe you should call the scientists with big pharma and the NIH (if there’s any remaining :ohno: ) and let them know they’re wasting their time and money.
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kalm wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2026 9:41 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2026 6:25 am

Exactly. Over 20 years of effort to bring mRNA to market and the only way the product made it was via the Prep Act. mRNA is a shitty vaccine platform. It has value, unfortunately it's not in vaccines

Now I'm going to assume you have no clue what the Prep Act is about, or at least you'll play stupid like you always do.
Omagosh! I just red up on it! Those sneaky bastards!!!! :rofl:

You’re ignoring the R&D that’s been going into mRNA after the success of the COVID vaccine. Maybe you should call the scientists with big pharma and the NIH (if there’s any remaining :ohno: ) and let them know they’re wasting their time and money.
What R&D has been put in?

In regard to pharma, of course they're going to keep going after vaccines with mRNA, they're huge money makers, even when they have a horrific injury profile like the COVID vaccine. Now if they can develop something where the reward is higher, like cancer therapy, then mRNA becomes a viable option.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2026 9:44 am
kalm wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2026 9:41 am

Omagosh! I just red up on it! Those sneaky bastards!!!! :rofl:

You’re ignoring the R&D that’s been going into mRNA after the success of the COVID vaccine. Maybe you should call the scientists with big pharma and the NIH (if there’s any remaining :ohno: ) and let them know they’re wasting their time and money.
What R&D has been put in?

In regard to pharma, of course they're going to keep going after vaccines with mRNA, they're huge money makers, even when they have a horrific injury profile like the COVID vaccine. Now if they can develop something where the reward is higher, like cancer therapy, then mRNA becomes a viable option.
Ummm…they’re getting closer to approving it for pancreatic and melanoma cancers. The trials have been mind blowing.

But no R&D had gone into it I’m sure. :lol:

And to back that up with “horrific injury profile” of Covid vaccines. Good god, man. I was only half joking about your tin foil hat based research but after that sentence…just wow! :rofl:
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kalm wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2026 9:51 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2026 9:44 am

What R&D has been put in?

In regard to pharma, of course they're going to keep going after vaccines with mRNA, they're huge money makers, even when they have a horrific injury profile like the COVID vaccine. Now if they can develop something where the reward is higher, like cancer therapy, then mRNA becomes a viable option.
Ummm…they’re getting closer to approving it for pancreatic and melanoma cancers. The trials have been mind blowing.

But no R&D had gone into it I’m sure. :lol:

And to back that up with “horrific injury profile” of Covid vaccines. Good god, man. I was only half joking about your tin foil hat based research but after that sentence…just wow! :rofl:
Yes, I am proper body weight, no comorbidities and can probably come close to a 9 minute mile, even though I don't jog. You keep telling us how you have your finger on the pulse of medicine and I'll keep living an extremely healthy life questioning their false claims.

You don't even know RFK cut $500 million in R&D work on mRNA

Flu shots sit at 55% for boosters. COVID sits at 17% with very few vaccinating their children.

The people have spoken modRNA is not trusted due to the damage it did. 7.7% of people needed medical assistance due to the shots. That is horrific and a major reason it is a terrible mass vaccine platform.

This is why no one takes you seriously. You just peddle pharma news and don't have any science understanding to know better. A perfect example is that there is no long term safety data because they vaccinated the placebo arm, but you keep making unsupported claims.
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SeattleGriz wrote:
kalm wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2026 9:51 am Ummm…they’re getting closer to approving it for pancreatic and melanoma cancers. The trials have been mind blowing.

But no R&D had gone into it I’m sure. :lol:

And to back that up with “horrific injury profile” of Covid vaccines. Good god, man. I was only half joking about your tin foil hat based research but after that sentence…just wow! :rofl:
Yes, I am proper body weight, no comorbidities and can probably come close to a 9 minute mile, even though I don't jog. You keep telling us how you have your finger on the pulse of medicine and I'll keep living an extremely healthy life questioning their false claims.

You don't even know RFK cut $500 million in R&D work on mRNA

Flu shots sit at 55% for boosters. COVID sits at 17% with very few vaccinating their children.

The people have spoken modRNA is not trusted due to the damage it did. 7.7% of people needed medical assistance due to the shots. That is horrific and a major reason it is a terrible mass vaccine platform.

This is why no one takes you seriously. You just peddle pharma news and don't have any science understanding to know better. A perfect example is that there is no long term safety data because they vaccinated the placebo arm, but you keep making unsupported claims.
What percentage of people on chemo or radiation therapy need medical assistance?

The research into mRNA vaccines and cancer is promising and I doubt it's as toxic as chemo or radiation. That's why it's foolish to dismiss a possibility because of butt hurt, cry baby MAQA yahoo beta cucks. :D


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SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2026 10:13 am
kalm wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2026 9:51 am

Ummm…they’re getting closer to approving it for pancreatic and melanoma cancers. The trials have been mind blowing.

But no R&D had gone into it I’m sure. :lol:

And to back that up with “horrific injury profile” of Covid vaccines. Good god, man. I was only half joking about your tin foil hat based research but after that sentence…just wow! :rofl:
Yes, I am proper body weight, no comorbidities and can probably come close to a 9 minute mile, even though I don't jog. You keep telling us how you have your finger on the pulse of medicine and I'll keep living an extremely healthy life questioning their false claims.

You don't even know RFK cut $500 million in R&D work on mRNA

Flu shots sit at 55% for boosters. COVID sits at 17% with very few vaccinating their children.

The people have spoken modRNA is not trusted due to the damage it did. 7.7% of people needed medical assistance due to the shots. That is horrific and a major reason it is a terrible mass vaccine platform.

This is why no one takes you seriously. You just peddle pharma news and don't have any science understanding to know better. A perfect example is that there is no long term safety data because they vaccinated the placebo arm, but you keep making unsupported claims.
Not sure what your fitness level proves at scale but congrats!
The people have spoken modRNA is not trusted due to massive amounts of propaganda and the unscientific, cult like anti vax movement. 7.7% of people needed medical assistance due to the shots however reports fail to indicate the significance of the “medical assistance, whether it was pandemic and fear mongering induced hypochondria, or how 7% compares to other vaccinations, especially during other epidemics where stopping the spread was crucial.
You nailed it here. :clap:
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2026 10:49 am
SeattleGriz wrote:
Yes, I am proper body weight, no comorbidities and can probably come close to a 9 minute mile, even though I don't jog. You keep telling us how you have your finger on the pulse of medicine and I'll keep living an extremely healthy life questioning their false claims.

You don't even know RFK cut $500 million in R&D work on mRNA

Flu shots sit at 55% for boosters. COVID sits at 17% with very few vaccinating their children.

The people have spoken modRNA is not trusted due to the damage it did. 7.7% of people needed medical assistance due to the shots. That is horrific and a major reason it is a terrible mass vaccine platform.

This is why no one takes you seriously. You just peddle pharma news and don't have any science understanding to know better. A perfect example is that there is no long term safety data because they vaccinated the placebo arm, but you keep making unsupported claims.
What percentage of people on chemo or radiation therapy need medical assistance?

The research into mRNA vaccines and cancer is promising and I doubt it's as toxic as chemo or radiation. That's why it's foolish to dismiss a possibility because of butt hurt, cry baby MAQA yahoo beta cucks. :D


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Notice what I said. Mass vaccination like a yearly respiratory illness is a bad choice. It's all about risk vs reward, which I've stated in this thread as well
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kalm wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2026 10:57 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2026 10:13 am

Yes, I am proper body weight, no comorbidities and can probably come close to a 9 minute mile, even though I don't jog. You keep telling us how you have your finger on the pulse of medicine and I'll keep living an extremely healthy life questioning their false claims.

You don't even know RFK cut $500 million in R&D work on mRNA

Flu shots sit at 55% for boosters. COVID sits at 17% with very few vaccinating their children.

The people have spoken modRNA is not trusted due to the damage it did. 7.7% of people needed medical assistance due to the shots. That is horrific and a major reason it is a terrible mass vaccine platform.

This is why no one takes you seriously. You just peddle pharma news and don't have any science understanding to know better. A perfect example is that there is no long term safety data because they vaccinated the placebo arm, but you keep making unsupported claims.
Not sure what your fitness level proves at scale but congrats!
The people have spoken modRNA is not trusted due to massive amounts of propaganda and the unscientific, cult like anti vax movement. 7.7% of people needed medical assistance due to the shots however reports fail to indicate the significance of the “medical assistance, whether it was pandemic and fear mongering induced hypochondria, or how 7% compares to other vaccinations, especially during other epidemics where stopping the spread was crucial.
You nailed it here. :clap:
My fitness level is a direct indicator of how well I have taken care of myself. That is through a solid understanding of biology, nutrition, exercise science and understanding medicine's limitations.

What it also means is that if people would put some effort into their wellness and not become a metabolic train wreck, we'd save untold billions, if not trillions in health care, but you keep pushing the "magic pill" mantra.

One of the main reasons for me to skip the COVID shot other than it did jack shit, is myocarditis, which is a big issue for me as the COVID shots are known to cause at a rate of 1 in 35. Why would I risk myocarditis, which causes dying of heart cells which then scar and lose electrical transmission for a shot that offered me no benefits?

In regard to changing my post, you further prove you know very little but what the pharma companies tell you. The 7.7% was taken directly from the FDA's VSafe program, but you didn't know that did you? The FDA had to be taken to court to get this data after they refused to publish it like they said they would. The shot did not stop spread like we were told, so your last effort about spread is shot down too.

To go back to your mention of mRNA shots for pancreatic and melanoma - the melanoma study was decent, The pancreatic was not. The pancreatic study only had 16 people. In addition they underwent major tumor resection surgery, received a heavy-hitting checkpoint inhibitor immunotherapy (atezolizumab), and went through standard mFOLFIRINOX chemotherapy so no one is going to be able to deal with those confounders properly.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2026 5:03 pm myocarditis, which is a big issue for me as the COVID shots are known to cause at a rate of 1 in 35.
Do you have a link for that? That seems.... off. We've administered hundreds of millions of COVID vaccines. And 1 in 35 causes myocarditis? Roughly 10 million cases of myocarditis related to COVID vaccines in the US alone?

This one has 2-5 cases per million doses. That's quite a ways from 1 in 35.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9538893/
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