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When Capitalism comes to America
How many of these weirdos who control the world earned their success via capitalism? How many actually understand how it works?
Re: When Capitalism comes to America
Soros, Hoffman, Bloomberg, Moskovich and Pritzker cant hide in the shadows anymore? Seems like a good thing
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Re: When Capitalism comes to America
For Pritzer that would have had to have been an awfully big shadow..
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When Capitalism comes to America
Behind trump's YUGE ass might work.
When will thiel, the kochs, etc. be forced out of the shadows or will they flee to Argentina first?
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Re: When Capitalism comes to America
They might have a little less of a dominator complex. And less outwardly weird. But who can be certain? Only you know what’s in a man’s heart. Amirite?
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Re: When Capitalism comes to America
lol Trump is rail thin compared to Pritzer.
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Re: When Capitalism comes to America
What a pathetically vapid was to define success.
Among pro-capitalist pundits, Musk’s ascension to trillionaire status has been the occasion for a round of sycophantic applause, as they all rush to tell us why it’s good for one individual to control this much of the world’s resources. At Fox News, we’re told that Musk “earned every penny,” and is living proof that “capitalism continues to reward individuals who create extraordinary value.” Similarly, an op-ed in the Los Angeles Times tells us that his SpaceX fortune is “a testament to human ingenuity, immigrant success and American greatness.” The National Review offers “Three Cheers For Elon Musk,” calling criticism of his hyper-wealth “revolting. Repulsive. Grotesque. Un-American.”
Now, there are all kinds of political and economic reasons why these claims are wrong, and we’ve discussed them at some length elsewhere. Two of the most important are that by hoarding wealth, billionaires and now trillionaires are actively keeping other people in poverty, making the whole thing monstrously unethical, and that their vast fortunes allow them to buy political power and make a mockery of the word “democracy.” Both of these things are true of Musk, who has bragged about using his wealth to get Donald Trump elected and likely killed hundreds of thousands of people across Africa with his “DOGE” aid cuts. (If you start to count the lives Musk could save if he put his money to good use, the numbers get even more staggering.)
But another, morbidly fascinating aspect of this whole moment is that, despite possessing wealth that rivals the emperors of the ancient world, Musk’s existence is a bizarre and cursed one in many important ways. His personal relationships with the people closest to him, by all appearances, are dysfunctional and abusive to varying degrees. He desperately wants to be adored by the public, but with every attempt, their approval slips further from his grasp. Instead of enjoying his money and leisure, he spends his waking hours obsessing over racist conspiracy theories and paranoid fantasies about the end of the world. And to add the final insult, he doesn’t even have a trillion dollars in any real sense; he just has to spend a lot of time and energy keeping up an elaborate fiction that he does.
In a way, Musk’s fans are right: he’s a perfect example of capitalism at work, with its relentless drive for growth and acquisition at the expense of everything else. It’s just that those are terrible principles to base a human life
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Re: When Capitalism comes to America
They're both YUGE enough to have their own gravity.
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Re: When Capitalism comes to America
They are fleeing oppression and once Cubans were allowed to prosper again in Florida ….. Miami boomed
On Friday, August 5, 1994, thousands of Cubans gathered along Havana’s Malecón after rumors raged through the city that a fleet of boats was coming from Miami to pick up any Cuban who wanted to leave the island. When police attempted to disperse the crowds, protests erupted with chants of “Freedom!” and “Down with Fidel!” Demonstrators threw rocks and bottles at shop windows and tourist-only hotels. After police arrested hundreds of people and broke up the protests, Fidel Castro toured the Malecón.
On Friday, August 5, 1994, thousands of Cubans gathered along Havana’s Malecón after rumors raged through the city that a fleet of boats was coming from Miami to pick up any Cuban who wanted to leave the island. When police attempted to disperse the crowds, protests erupted with chants of “Freedom!” and “Down with Fidel!” Demonstrators threw rocks and bottles at shop windows and tourist-only hotels. After police arrested hundreds of people and broke up the protests, Fidel Castro toured the Malecón.
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Re: When Capitalism comes to America
Yes. Authoritarianism is mostly driven by economics. And it afflicts both communism and unregulated or “free” market capitalism.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2026 10:01 am They are fleeing oppression and once Cubans were allowed to prosper again in Florida ….. Miami boomed
On Friday, August 5, 1994, thousands of Cubans gathered along Havana’s Malecón after rumors raged through the city that a fleet of boats was coming from Miami to pick up any Cuban who wanted to leave the island. When police attempted to disperse the crowds, protests erupted with chants of “Freedom!” and “Down with Fidel!” Demonstrators threw rocks and bottles at shop windows and tourist-only hotels. After police arrested hundreds of people and broke up the protests, Fidel Castro toured the Malecón.
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Re: When Capitalism comes to America
Huh?kalm wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2026 11:10 amYes. Authoritarianism is mostly driven by economics. And it afflicts both communism and unregulated or “free” market capitalism.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2026 10:01 am They are fleeing oppression and once Cubans were allowed to prosper again in Florida ….. Miami boomed
On Friday, August 5, 1994, thousands of Cubans gathered along Havana’s Malecón after rumors raged through the city that a fleet of boats was coming from Miami to pick up any Cuban who wanted to leave the island. When police attempted to disperse the crowds, protests erupted with chants of “Freedom!” and “Down with Fidel!” Demonstrators threw rocks and bottles at shop windows and tourist-only hotels. After police arrested hundreds of people and broke up the protests, Fidel Castro toured the Malecón.
Walk the streets of Havana and then walk the streets of Miami and you tell me where Cuban Americans or Cubans have prospered
Cubans in Cuba live in misery and their brothers and sisters in Miami are doing very well!
The results of this study should be presented to every American kid in school. Yes?
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Authoritarianism is ultimately driven by power. Economics is just a tool used to control wealth and resources to keep the subjects in compliance.kalm wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2026 11:10 amYes. Authoritarianism is mostly driven by economics. And it afflicts both communism and unregulated or “free” market capitalism.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2026 10:01 am They are fleeing oppression and once Cubans were allowed to prosper again in Florida ….. Miami boomed
On Friday, August 5, 1994, thousands of Cubans gathered along Havana’s Malecón after rumors raged through the city that a fleet of boats was coming from Miami to pick up any Cuban who wanted to leave the island. When police attempted to disperse the crowds, protests erupted with chants of “Freedom!” and “Down with Fidel!” Demonstrators threw rocks and bottles at shop windows and tourist-only hotels. After police arrested hundreds of people and broke up the protests, Fidel Castro toured the Malecón.
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Re: When Capitalism comes to America
It was better to leave Cuba and go to Guantánamo, or die at sea, rather than continue dying little by little.”
– Jorge, Cuban rafter age 30
Prior to the rafter crisis of 1994, the United States automatically granted political asylum to Cuban refugees arriving at its shores, usually releasing them into the custody of relatives or other sponsors immediately after being processed by immigration officials. To avert another major exodus from Cuba, the Clinton administration reversed this 35-year-old open-door policy. On August 19, the White House announced that all Cubans intercepted at sea would be taken to the U.S. Naval Base at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, and all Cuban refugees who reached American soil would be detained by the Immigration and Naturalization Service while their cases were reviewed. The U.S. Coast Guard launched Operation Able Vigil to enact the Clinton administration’s new directive. This change in American policy indicated that the United States would no longer consider Cubans as refugees escaping a repressive regime but instead as immigrants seeking economic opportunities, a distinction that is still hotly debated.
– Jorge, Cuban rafter age 30
Prior to the rafter crisis of 1994, the United States automatically granted political asylum to Cuban refugees arriving at its shores, usually releasing them into the custody of relatives or other sponsors immediately after being processed by immigration officials. To avert another major exodus from Cuba, the Clinton administration reversed this 35-year-old open-door policy. On August 19, the White House announced that all Cubans intercepted at sea would be taken to the U.S. Naval Base at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, and all Cuban refugees who reached American soil would be detained by the Immigration and Naturalization Service while their cases were reviewed. The U.S. Coast Guard launched Operation Able Vigil to enact the Clinton administration’s new directive. This change in American policy indicated that the United States would no longer consider Cubans as refugees escaping a repressive regime but instead as immigrants seeking economic opportunities, a distinction that is still hotly debated.
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Re: When Capitalism comes to America
Right along with the American quality of life compared to other OECD countries. And the failing American dream.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2026 12:10 pmHuh?
Walk the streets of Havana and then walk the streets of Miami and you tell me where Cuban Americans or Cubans have prospered
Cubans in Cuba live in misery and their brothers and sisters in Miami are doing very well!
The results of this study should be presented to every American kid in school. Yes?
Your constant references to Cuba are anecdotal.
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Speaking of a failed dream…. There is no Utopia …no matter how much money your selfish hero’s want to stealkalm wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2026 8:29 amRight along with the American quality of life compared to other OECD countries. And the failing American dream.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2026 12:10 pm
Huh?
Walk the streets of Havana and then walk the streets of Miami and you tell me where Cuban Americans or Cubans have prospered
Cubans in Cuba live in misery and their brothers and sisters in Miami are doing very well!
The results of this study should be presented to every American kid in school. Yes?
Your constant references to Cuba are anecdotal.
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Re: When Capitalism comes to America
The irony of a MAQA yahoo talking about selfish heroes stealing money ...Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2026 9:01 amSpeaking of a failed dream…. There is no Utopia …no matter how much money your selfish hero’s want to steal
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Re: When Capitalism comes to America
The irony of someone being so offended by Trump, but changed Joey Rottens diapers every dayUNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2026 9:18 amThe irony of a MAQA yahoo talking about selfish heroes stealing money ...Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2026 9:01 am
Speaking of a failed dream…. There is no Utopia …no matter how much money your selfish hero’s want to steal![]()
So fighting to keep the Dems hands out of working people’s pockets is stealing money ?
Remember who wants to raise taxes and just not on millionaires
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Re: When Fascism comes to America
The irony of MAQA yahoos who bitched and moaned that trump was no longer POTUS after January 2021 and anyone that criticized him had tDS now frequently bringing up biden ...Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2026 9:28 amThe irony of someone being so offended by Trump, but changed Joey Rottens diapers every day
So fighting to keep the Dems hands out of working people’s pockets is stealing money ?
Remember who wants to raise taxes and just not on millionaires
Who is fighting to "keep the Dems hands out of working people’s pockets"? Maybe Massie, Paul, etc. It's certainly not MAQA Republicans. they're hanging working people out to dry.
There are lots of examples of trump, his family and friends unethically profiting from his presidency - cryptocurrency "bribes", selling pardons, no-bid sweetheart deals, frivolous lawsuits, etc.
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Re: When Fascism comes to America
The irony of someone so obsessed with Trump, They can’t even begin to realize how their but Trump narrative insured that Trump got elected in 2024UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2026 10:06 amThe irony of MAQA yahoos who bitched and moaned that trump was no longer POTUS after January 2021 and anyone that criticized him had tDS now frequently bringing up biden ...Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2026 9:28 am
The irony of someone being so offended by Trump, but changed Joey Rottens diapers every day
So fighting to keep the Dems hands out of working people’s pockets is stealing money ?
Remember who wants to raise taxes and just not on millionaires
Who is fighting to "keep the Dems hands out of working people’s pockets"? Maybe Massie, Paul, etc. It's certainly not MAQA Republicans. they're hanging working people out to dry.
There are lots of examples of trump, his family and friends unethically profiting from his presidency - cryptocurrency "bribes", selling pardons, no-bid sweetheart deals, frivolous lawsuits, etc.
nice job TDS 88.
Please keep your boring and unimaginative no idea drivel continue
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The irony of someone so obsessed with biden, They can’t even begin to realize how trump's horrific first term insured that biden got elected in 2024Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2026 10:16 amThe irony of someone so obsessed with Trump, They can’t even begin to realize how their but Trump narrative insured that Trump got elected in 2024UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2026 10:06 am
The irony of MAQA yahoos who bitched and moaned that trump was no longer POTUS after January 2021 and anyone that criticized him had tDS now frequently bringing up biden ...
Who is fighting to "keep the Dems hands out of working people’s pockets"? Maybe Massie, Paul, etc. It's certainly not MAQA Republicans. they're hanging working people out to dry.
There are lots of examples of trump, his family and friends unethically profiting from his presidency - cryptocurrency "bribes", selling pardons, no-bid sweetheart deals, frivolous lawsuits, etc.
nice job TDS 88.
Please keep your boring and unimaginative no idea drivel continue![]()
nice job bDS CH, you are what you profess to despise.
Please keep your boring and unimaginative no idea drivel continue
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Re: When Fascism comes to America
Imagine the irony of Commy TDS 88 who indulges in intellectual theft on here every day of CHs creativity to try and hide his totally uninspiring and boring message but claimed his crime victims are the guilty onesUNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2026 10:36 amThe irony of someone so obsessed with biden, They can’t even begin to realize how trump's horrific first term insured that biden got elected in 2024Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2026 10:16 am
The irony of someone so obsessed with Trump, They can’t even begin to realize how their but Trump narrative insured that Trump got elected in 2024
nice job TDS 88.
Please keep your boring and unimaginative no idea drivel continue![]()
nice job bDS CH, you are what you profess to despise.
Please keep your boring and unimaginative no idea drivel continue![]()
And of course can’t begin to imagine why anyone would do what the media wouldn’t do….. but continues the trendy but Trump narrative and is whimpering that someone stood up and told the truth about Joey I don’t give to charity Biden
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And look at you incessantly whimpering whenever someone stands up and tells the truth about trump.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2026 10:49 amImagine the irony of Commy TDS 88 who indulges in intellectual theft on here every day of CHs creativity to try and hide his totally uninspiring and boring message but claimed his crime victims are the guilty onesUNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2026 10:36 am
The irony of someone so obsessed with biden, They can’t even begin to realize how trump's horrific first term insured that biden got elected in 2024
nice job bDS CH, you are what you profess to despise.
Please keep your boring and unimaginative no idea drivel continue![]()
And of course can’t begin to imagine why anyone would do what the media wouldn’t do….. but continues the trendy but Trump narrative and is whimpering that someone stood up and told the truth about Joey I don’t give to charity Biden
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Re: When Fascism comes to America
OkUNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2026 12:39 pmAnd look at you incessantly whimpering whenever the boy who cries wolf stands up and tells the truth about trump.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2026 10:49 am
Imagine the irony of Commy TDS 88 who indulges in intellectual theft on here every day of CHs creativity to try and hide his totally uninspiring and boring message but claimed his crime victims are the guilty ones
And of course can’t begin to imagine why anyone would do what the media wouldn’t do….. but continues the trendy but Trump narrative and is whimpering that someone stood up and told the truth about Joey I don’t give to charity Biden
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Speaking of hypocrisy - look at you stealing my schtick after accusing me of "intellectual theft"
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