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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 1:53 pm
UNI88 wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 12:01 pm

Inflammatory rhetoric like that is dangerous. Why is gina milan trying to get them assassinated by calling them commies?
Because the left suddenly loves Commies
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Re: When socialism comes to America..

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 1:53 pm
UNI88 wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 12:01 pm

Inflammatory rhetoric like that is dangerous. Why is gina milan trying to get them assassinated by calling them commies?
Because the left suddenly loves Commies
I love it when MAGA shows their ignorance. :lol:
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Re: When socialism comes to America..

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But socialism is perfectly fine for the rich.

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kalm wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 4:11 pm But socialism is perfectly fine for the rich.

You Can‘t Have Both Democracy and Billionaires
So according to you, the Scandanavian countries you love to compare the US to, aren‘t democracies. Who knew? :lol:
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kalm wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 4:11 pm But socialism is perfectly fine for the rich.

LBJ is the blame

Raining for freebies down on the lazy and malingerers

I’m so thankful I was too young to know what his stupid plan was and got to work and did things for myself
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Awesome :nod:
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Why are all the parents of these new socialist wonder kid Dummies rich?
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2026 3:28 am Awesome :nod:
Homelessness in Buenos Aires has risen 50-60% since.

Rent increased 12% in NYC under Eric Adams. This just temporarily slows that down providing relief to the working class.

It’s nice to see Republicans lose their populist disguise tho.
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kalm wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 6:37 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2026 3:28 am Awesome :nod:
Homelessness in Buenos Aires has risen 50-60% since.

Rent increased 12% in NYC under Eric Adams. This just temporarily slows that down providing relief to the working class.

It’s nice to see Republicans lose their populist disguise tho.
Buenos Aries' rise in homelessness is microscopic compared to NYC.

By official NYC numbers, during Adams' administration, homelessness increased by 140 - 150%. I wouldn't call that much relief.

By official city of Buenos Aries statistics, homelessness has increased by approximately 57%.

However, to bring it into perspective, NYC only counts visitors to shelters. Buenos Aries counts both shelter visitors and people living on the streets in their statistics.
A little more perspective. Buenos Aries is 1/3 smaller by population, but only counted approximately 5200 homeless at the end of 2025. On the other hand, NYC had approximately 135,000 staying in shelters at the end of 2025. To be on par with Buenos Aries, NYC would need to have only about 15,600 per night staying in shelters AND living on the street.

NYC is broken.
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Baldy wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 7:53 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 6:37 am

Homelessness in Buenos Aires has risen 50-60% since.

Rent increased 12% in NYC under Eric Adams. This just temporarily slows that down providing relief to the working class.

It’s nice to see Republicans lose their populist disguise tho.
Buenos Aries' rise in homelessness is microscopic compared to NYC.

By official NYC numbers, during Adams' administration, homelessness increased by 140 - 150%. I wouldn't call that much relief.

By official city of Buenos Aries statistics, homelessness has increased by approximately 57%.

However, to bring it into perspective, NYC only counts visitors to shelters. Buenos Aries counts both shelter visitors and people living on the streets in their statistics.
A little more perspective. Buenos Aries is 1/3 smaller by population, but only counted approximately 5200 homeless at the end of 2025. On the other hand, NYC had approximately 135,000 staying in shelters at the end of 2025. To be on par with Buenos Aries, NYC would need to have only about 15,600 per night staying in shelters AND living on the street.

NYC is broken.
Maybe so…and I’m guessing the same can be said for BA. Higher rent prices are surely the fix?
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kalm wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 8:24 am
Baldy wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 7:53 am
Buenos Aries' rise in homelessness is microscopic compared to NYC.

By official NYC numbers, during Adams' administration, homelessness increased by 140 - 150%. I wouldn't call that much relief.

By official city of Buenos Aries statistics, homelessness has increased by approximately 57%.

However, to bring it into perspective, NYC only counts visitors to shelters. Buenos Aries counts both shelter visitors and people living on the streets in their statistics.
A little more perspective. Buenos Aries is 1/3 smaller by population, but only counted approximately 5200 homeless at the end of 2025. On the other hand, NYC had approximately 135,000 staying in shelters at the end of 2025. To be on par with Buenos Aries, NYC would need to have only about 15,600 per night staying in shelters AND living on the street.

NYC is broken.
Maybe so…and I’m guessing the same can be said for BA. Higher rent prices are surely the fix?
One of your flaws is you think everything can be fixed….nope
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kalm wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 8:24 am
Baldy wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 7:53 am
Buenos Aries' rise in homelessness is microscopic compared to NYC.

By official NYC numbers, during Adams' administration, homelessness increased by 140 - 150%. I wouldn't call that much relief.

By official city of Buenos Aries statistics, homelessness has increased by approximately 57%.

However, to bring it into perspective, NYC only counts visitors to shelters. Buenos Aries counts both shelter visitors and people living on the streets in their statistics.
A little more perspective. Buenos Aries is 1/3 smaller by population, but only counted approximately 5200 homeless at the end of 2025. On the other hand, NYC had approximately 135,000 staying in shelters at the end of 2025. To be on par with Buenos Aries, NYC would need to have only about 15,600 per night staying in shelters AND living on the street.

NYC is broken.
Maybe so…and I’m guessing the same can be said for BA. Higher rent prices are surely the fix?
Not sure, maybe, but freezing the rent surely isn't fixing anything.
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kalm wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 6:37 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2026 3:28 am Awesome :nod:
Homelessness in Buenos Aires has risen 50-60% since.

Rent increased 12% in NYC under Eric Adams. This just temporarily slows that down providing relief to the working class.

It’s nice to see Republicans lose their populist disguise tho.
All govt does is make the problem worse..
Why Are 50,000 New York City Apartments Vacant?
The emergence of “ghost apartments” reveals a fundamentally broken housing market.
In New York City, making a profit on real estate has become increasingly difficult. Rent-stabilization laws built on the mantra that “housing is a human right,” a dysfunctional housing court, and myriad other interventions have driven thousands of units off the market, giving rise to the phenomenon of New York’s “ghost apartments.”

The city now has nearly 50,000 empty units, absent from the market either because their operating costs exceed legal rents or because they require considerable renovations. Recently, I visited four of these ghost apartments. Together, they reveal the city’s fundamentally broken housing market and what needs to be done to fix it….

……Where there’s a renter, there’s a landlord who stands to profit—though that profit is by no means guaranteed. To profit, the landlord must make sound decisions as to maintenance, capital investment, and marketing. These costs must be paid; only after they’re met can the owner potentially make a profit. The legal environment also has to permit some return on investment.

But in New York City, that’s not always how it works. Take a building on East 6th Street as an example. A mere five-minute walk from Tompkins Square, the building is a convenient home for students and young professionals.

One-bedroom units in the building average $3,500— except two of them, subject to the city’s rent-stabilization laws, which hold rents below $900 per month.

As a result, both units have been allowed to fall into disrepair, because the cost of restoring them to habitability is greater than what they’d generate in rent. “We’re talking a minimum of $100,000 for [the studio we first visited], which requires a complete remodeling,” Michael Johnson, a vice president at the New York Apartment Association, explained.

The cost: $10,000 for an architect to review the plans and obtain a permit; $50,000 for kitchen and bathroom materials and labor; $20,000 for the floors and ceilings; $6,000 for appliances; $25,000 in electricians’ fees; and a miscellany of other significant fees. These figures add up to the typical $100,000–$200,000 costs of renovating a studio apartment like the one we visited. It’s the same story upstairs in the second unit.

Then there are the operating costs associated with each individual unit. As of 2023, these amount to $1,028 for a small building in Manhattan, according to the Rent Guidelines Board. Fuel, hot water, and labor costs go up with each additional unit that’s rented and must be taken into consideration. Fixed costs, like insurance, can be shifted from rent-stabilized to market-rate units, but that drives up everyone else’s rents.

In order to afford to renovate the two units at the building on East 6th Street, the owner could request a rent increase from New York’s Division of Housing and Community Renewal. But the maximum rent increase allowed would be $347, bringing rents to $955 and $1,211, respectively. Any bank could see that the $100,000 investment would never be paid back.

So, the units stay empty. “The owner can’t really figure out what to do with them,” Johnson said. “It’s just wasted space.”

That story is, unfortunately, not an isolated one. The next day, I visited two additional vacant apartments, on Valentine Avenue in the Bronx, where I saw the same conditions: renovation costs of $60,000, operating costs likely to exceed $1,000 per month, and legal rents capped at $824 and $529, respectively. In this area, market rents are lower, meaning that the fixed costs of buildings cannot be borne by other (market-rate) tenants. That makes the problem even worse….
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 12:39 pm
kalm wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 6:37 am

Homelessness in Buenos Aires has risen 50-60% since.

Rent increased 12% in NYC under Eric Adams. This just temporarily slows that down providing relief to the working class.

It’s nice to see Republicans lose their populist disguise tho.
All govt does is make the problem worse..
Why Are 50,000 New York City Apartments Vacant?
The emergence of “ghost apartments” reveals a fundamentally broken housing market.


https://www.city-journal.org/article/va ... ol-housing
You're not wrong - trump's tariffs are a great example.
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Baldy wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 10:12 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 8:24 am

Maybe so…and I’m guessing the same can be said for BA. Higher rent prices are surely the fix?
Not sure, maybe, but freezing the rent surely isn't fixing anything.
Yep. You‘ll just end up with more vacant ‘ghost‘ apartments.

For the commies, it’s not about fixing anything. It’s about doing what feels good, and trying to stick it to the Haves..
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 12:44 pm
Baldy wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 10:12 am
Not sure, maybe, but freezing the rent surely isn't fixing anything.
Yep. You‘ll just end up with more vacant ‘ghost‘ apartments.

For the commies, it’s not about fixing anything. It’s about doing what feels good, and trying to stick it to the Haves..
Using that logic - for the fascists, trump not signing the housing bill until the SAVE act passes isn't about fixing anything. It's about trying to save his own ass and sticking it to the Have Nots.
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kalm wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 4:08 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 1:53 pm

Because the left suddenly loves Commies
I love it when MAGA shows their ignorance. :lol:
Like a summer blockbuster
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 3:11 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 4:08 pm

I love it when MAGA shows their ignorance. :lol:
Like a summer blockbuster
Yes! Watching ignorant MAGA is indeed entertaining!
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Even critters like social democracy.

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