BlackFalkin wrote:Any ideas for criteria, i was thinking of making a top 25
Best stadiums based on all teams.
There are really two different ways to look at it.
Best stadium simply from a design standpoint or best stadium when considering the entire package such as game day atmosphere. For example you probably wouldnt include Franklin Field in the top 10 if gameday atmosphere is heavily weighted. Conversely a school like Liberty would have their rating improved a ton for atmosphere at the game.
I think Stadium Design and Game Day Atmosphere are two completley different things. I would recommend maybe two different top 25 list, one for each. And I woudl say that all FCS School's stadiums should be eligible, though I would give a much heavier weight to on campus or at least school owned stadiums. I don't quite get how having an upper deck makes the stadium better. Must people tend to think Lambeau Field in the NFL is tops and it has no upper deck.
BlackFalkin wrote:Any ideas for criteria, i was thinking of making a top 25
Best stadiums based on all teams.
There are really two different ways to look at it.
Best stadium simply from a design standpoint or best stadium when considering the entire package such as game day atmosphere. For example you probably wouldnt include Franklin Field in the top 10 if gameday atmosphere is heavily weighted. Conversely a school like Liberty would have their rating improved a ton for atmosphere at the game.
Liberty is a dry campus. I find it hard to believe that the atmosphere can compare to many other crowds of similar size.
Bostonspider wrote:I think Stadium Design and Game Day Atmosphere are two completley different things. I would recommend maybe two different top 25 list, one for each. And I woudl say that all FCS School's stadiums should be eligible, though I would give a much heavier weight to on campus or at least school owned stadiums. I don't quite get how having an upper deck makes the stadium better. Must people tend to think Lambeau Field in the NFL is tops and it has no upper deck.
i agree but as for Lambeau field, I think its more the rich tradition & fans... btw have u seen lambeau lately? pretty suite
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It is also the fact that there is not a bad seat, view wise, in the house at Lambeau. Looking at Harvard and Yale, both "deckless" stadiums, I think that applies to them as well.
that kinda applies for 90% of stadiums then, bc people say that about woodward field, and if "upper deck" is a bad thing why did Montana just install one? I believe JMU is installing decks on both sides also....
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BlackFalkin wrote:that kinda applies for 90% of stadiums then, bc people say that about woodward field, and if "upper deck" is a bad thing why did Montana just install one? I believe JMU is installing decks on both sides also....
No one said it was a bad thing, I just did not see what made it better than not having one. I think most stadiums add an upper deck as they can expand the stadium up, without expanding it as far out. Both JMU and UM had space issues with continuing further out side the current stadium confines, so it is easier to build up than out. Also these upper decks allow for a row or two of sky boxes between the decks. But if you are building a stadium less than 20K seats, there is no real need for a upper deck, if you have the space.
It's OK to have a list of criteria, but it's important to properly weight each. I think having fans on 4 sides is more important than upper decks. There is nothing worse than flat ground as far as the eye can see behind the goal posts. Having a hill or locker room building in the end zone is better. Having no track is more important than having fans on 4 sides. On campus is more important than no track. Video replay is important, if you want to be in top 20, but not absolutely necessary (many times the camera guy has the wrong angle on the replay anyway). Tailgating? That falls into the "experience" department. But if you roll it into one, ya gotta have it. And so on......
I don't know if players/former players can give a complete assessment. I think fans can provide a better vote. We see all the things a player does (except the locker rooms but that isn't part of the criteria) plus more including tailgating.
Franks Tanks wrote:
Best stadiums based on all teams.
There are really two different ways to look at it.
Best stadium simply from a design standpoint or best stadium when considering the entire package such as game day atmosphere. For example you probably wouldnt include Franklin Field in the top 10 if gameday atmosphere is heavily weighted. Conversely a school like Liberty would have their rating improved a ton for atmosphere at the game.
Liberty is a dry campus. I find it hard to believe that the atmosphere can compare to many other crowds of similar size.
I hate LU, but I've played there. Granted it was before the upgraded place they have now, but those F'ers are sober and fired up!
"Elaine, you're from Baltimore, right?"
"Yes, well, Towson actually."
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I hate LU, but I've played there. Granted it was before the upgraded place they have now, but those F'ers are sober and fired up!
Jesus LOVES him some TOUCHDOWNS!
I was 3 games into my sophomore year when I got the first start at RG. At LU. On the new old style astroturf. bright red end zones. Had to be 120 degrees on the field that late September day. I went against a 5th year senior 3 tackle that wore #78.
I referred to him as Bruce Smith all day and actually, still to this day.
...sackless that day.
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Well the Ivy League Teams were I-A, but then again so were many FCS teams, like Richmond, William & Mary, Lehigh, Lafayette, Villanova, etc... I think just about every team in FCS would kill to have Princeton's Stadium which is barely 10 years old I think.
Bostonspider wrote:Well the Ivy League Teams were I-A, but then again so were many FCS teams, like Richmond, William & Mary, Lehigh, Lafayette, Villanova, etc... I think just about every team in FCS would kill to have Princeton's Stadium which is barely 10 years old I think.
I think Princeton Stadium was completed in 1997. How can it be an FBS stadium?? Many teams in FCS play in stadiums that were builty before FCS was created. The stadiums were however built at a time when they were appropiate for the expected crowds.
BlackFalkin wrote:any "FCS STADIUM" with a capacity over 26k isnt really FCS. (excluding and HBCU's)
Well thanks for the clarification. Why not excuse the Ivies as well? What about the Ivies with a seating capacity of less than 26k, do they get a special pass?
BlackFalkin wrote:i dont think Kidd brewer's ...:::OFFICIAL:::... capacity is more than 26k
HMM-- would Wash-Griz be considered a FBS stadium?
Also what about Jackson State memorial stadium? The stadium is right next to their campus, but it was never built just for their use as it was used for the Miss st - Ole Miss game for years
