Well, then, I am glad I could be of value to you! ...even as comic relief.Cleets Part 2 wrote:native wrote:
Amused, o unstable one? Do you mean to imply that you support organized theft?
Do you mean to imply that only liberals perform good works?
At least we have reason to believe that TTBF actually has a public service resume.
None of the above - I just find you entertaining
And you believe Galbraith?TwinTownBisonFan wrote:simple as this
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
that's about it.
Not even Galbraith believed Galbraith. Bill Buckley ate him for lunch and spat out the seeds. Simple is as simple does. Want a good sleeping pill, TTBF? Read The Affluent Society. 
I'm sorry to hear that...native wrote:Cleets Part 2 wrote:
Well, then, I am glad I could be of value to you! ...even as comic relief.
I do not enjoy throwing sh!t back and forth with you.
) just kiddingCleets, I've talked via mobile phone to Tman and Z a few times in the last month and I assure you, they think you are a putz.Cleets Part 2 wrote:I'm sorry to hear that...native wrote:
because I kinda like it
I think it can be difficult in this environment to not take things personally - but (for example) me and AZGF and T-man disagree on about 80% of topics but are actually friends - or at least that's what they tell me to my face... God only knows what's actually swirling around in their pea-brains
anyway: every one of the guys Ive met on this forum is pretty cool - most surprisingly Alphagriz and Citdog - both over-the-top Major A-holes on the forum but in real life... their kinda normal ol' douchebags
Even Ursus can be tolerable in person (
Sorry. 
D1B wrote:
Cleets, I've talked via mobile phone to Tman and Z a few times in the last month and I assure you, they think you are a putz.
... 
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:simple as this
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
that's about it.
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:solid postOSBF wrote:I don't need that many words to explain the difference. It's just easier to be conservative than liberal:
1)Easy to not give a fuck about anyone but yourself. Hard to care about your community and your planet.
2)Easy to deny the existance of complex issues such as global climate change. Hard to work together on solutions to complex/difficult/un-comfortable issues.
IT, want your eyes opened? Read Tear Down This Myth: How the Reagan Legacy Has Distorted Our Politics and Haunts Our Future, by Will Bunch.Ivytalk wrote:And you believe Galbraith?TwinTownBisonFan wrote:simple as this
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
that's about it.
Interesting to note:citdog wrote:
bullshit......if what doublecitydouche quoted had even a grain of truth in it then mass, vt, ny, nj and other States where yankee scum resided would give shitloads of money to charity. who gives the most money to charity every year? STATES OF THE FORMER CONFEDERACY THAT'S WHO.....
HEY DOUBLECITYDOUCHE SELL YOUR HORSESHIT SOMEWHERE WHERE PEOPLE ARE STUPID.....
no... he doesn't... red states are net suckers of the federal teat... whereas blue states are net contributors to the federal coffers... and it isn't even close...Cleets Part 2 wrote:Interesting to note:citdog wrote:
bullshit......if what doublecitydouche quoted had even a grain of truth in it then mass, vt, ny, nj and other States where yankee scum resided would give shitloads of money to charity. who gives the most money to charity every year? STATES OF THE FORMER CONFEDERACY THAT'S WHO.....
HEY DOUBLECITYDOUCHE SELL YOUR HORSESHIT SOMEWHERE WHERE PEOPLE ARE STUPID.....
I remember reading an essay that showed that conservatives donated more to charity than liberals - on a national level...
as much as I hate (HATE) to agree with Citdog... he might have a point (this time)
I call BULLSHIT.TwinTownBisonFan wrote:no... he doesn't... red states are net suckers of the federal teat... whereas blue states are net contributors to the federal coffers... and it isn't even close...Cleets Part 2 wrote:
Interesting to note:
I remember reading an essay that showed that conservatives donated more to charity than liberals - on a national level...
as much as I hate (HATE) to agree with Citdog... he might have a point (this time)
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:no... he doesn't... red states are net suckers of the federal teat... whereas blue states are net contributors to the federal coffers... and it isn't even close...Cleets Part 2 wrote:
Interesting to note:
I remember reading an essay that showed that conservatives donated more to charity than liberals - on a national level...
as much as I hate (HATE) to agree with Citdog... he might have a point (this time)
We are not talking about federal coffers. We are talking about personal commitment. We are talking about leadership.We are talking about putting you own time and money where your mouth is, before you dare try to steal it from someone else.TwinTownBisonFan wrote:no... he doesn't... red states are net suckers of the federal teat... whereas blue states are net contributors to the federal coffers... and it isn't even close...Cleets Part 2 wrote:
Interesting to note:
I remember reading an essay that showed that conservatives donated more to charity than liberals - on a national level...
as much as I hate (HATE) to agree with Citdog... he might have a point (this time)
I don't even think that's the issue...D1B wrote:TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
no... he doesn't... red states are net suckers of the federal teat... whereas blue states are net contributors to the federal coffers... and it isn't even close...
Apples (taxes) and Oranges (donations to charity)
That is pure bullshit, Cleets. I have asked your friends on several occasions what the hell was going on with you, and to a man, they vigorously support and defend you.D1B wrote:Cleets, I've talked via mobile phone to Tman and Z a few times in the last month and I assure you, they think you are a putz.Cleets Part 2 wrote:
I'm sorry to hear that...
because I kinda like it
I think it can be difficult in this environment to not take things personally - but (for example) me and AZGF and T-man disagree on about 80% of topics but are actually friends - or at least that's what they tell me to my face... God only knows what's actually swirling around in their pea-brains
anyway: every one of the guys Ive met on this forum is pretty cool - most surprisingly Alphagriz and Citdog - both over-the-top Major A-holes on the forum but in real life... their kinda normal ol' douchebags
Even Ursus can be tolerable in person (
It speaks very well of you as a human being. Every one of us should be so fortunate. travelinman67 wrote:I don't even think that's the issue...D1B wrote:
Apples (taxes) and Oranges (donations to charity)
...I believe TTBF is alleging net gov. revenue/expenditure as a rule has greater negative cash flow in red states...
...and that's not what I've seen from Heritage AND Pew studies.
Criminy...one only need live in NY and MA state for a few weeks to see the MASSIVE HHS/Grant abyss existing in most cities.
TAPIOCA PUDDIN FUCK YEAHCleets Part 2 wrote:travelinman67 wrote:
I don't even think that's the issue...
...I believe TTBF is alleging net gov. revenue/expenditure as a rule has greater negative cash flow in red states...
...and that's not what I've seen from Heritage AND Pew studies.
Criminy...one only need live in NY and MA state for a few weeks to see the MASSIVE HHS/Grant abyss existing in most cities.
Grampa..!!!
did you get up from your nap..?
Glad to see your creaky old bones stodgy-ing around...
classic liberal douche move......when confronted with FACTS that do not support your position.....CHANGE the subject. even if what the party dolt says is true about the States of the Confederacy and federal dollars we should just consider it payback for the stealing of over a billion dollars in property from the Southern States and the enforced poverty on the Southern People for 80 years after the conclusion of the contest betwixt the sections where the economy of the victors was propped at the expense of the Southern People.TwinTownBisonFan wrote:no... he doesn't... red states are net suckers of the federal teat... whereas blue states are net contributors to the federal coffers... and it isn't even close...Cleets Part 2 wrote:
Interesting to note:
I remember reading an essay that showed that conservatives donated more to charity than liberals - on a national level...
as much as I hate (HATE) to agree with Citdog... he might have a point (this time)
I know that's what he alleging. Just saying Citdog and TTBF were talking bout two totally different things.travelinman67 wrote:I don't even think that's the issue...D1B wrote:
Apples (taxes) and Oranges (donations to charity)
...I believe TTBF is alleging net gov. revenue/expenditure as a rule has greater negative cash flow in red states...
...and that's not what I've seen from Heritage AND Pew studies.
Criminy...one only need live in NY and MA state for a few weeks to see the MASSIVE HHS/Grant abyss existing in most cities.
and that Citadel Big Red flag in Iowa - don't forget about that...citdog wrote: ...
we should just consider it payback for the stealing of over a billion dollars in property from the Southern States
...
And where are the pages bellicose verbal flatulence and paranoid half-witted rambling we've come to think of as an entitlement?D1B wrote:I know that's what he alleging. Just saying Citdog and TTBF were talking bout two totally different things.travelinman67 wrote:
I don't even think that's the issue...
...I believe TTBF is alleging net gov. revenue/expenditure as a rule has greater negative cash flow in red states...
...and that's not what I've seen from Heritage AND Pew studies.
Criminy...one only need live in NY and MA state for a few weeks to see the MASSIVE HHS/Grant abyss existing in most cities.
Post your links/info so we can get to the bottom of this. I think he's right. We work hard in the Midwest and North (Blue) and our major urban areas are prosperous compared to the South (Red) and the lazy republican trailer park, uneducated voting base.
Very uncharacteristic of you not to include your findings.
It's interesting that libs will call out conservatives for foaming at the mouth and dealing with international threats in a completely overzealous and conterproductive way (and they're right) but they do the exact same thing with social problems and poverty and misery. And like neocons that play the "why do you hate America" card, liberals will claim that conservatives just don't care about other people.OSBF wrote:I don't need that many words to explain the difference. It's just easier to be conservative than liberal:
1)Easy to not give a **** about anyone but yourself. Hard to care about your community and your planet.
2)Easy to deny the existance of complex issues such as global climate change. Hard to work together on solutions to complex/difficult/un-comfortable issues.
Isn't Liz Cheny conservative and gay????Cleets Part 2 wrote:The one about a conservative being gay and living a quiet life..!!!
1) If a conservative is gay he's probably holding a political position
2) While he's rallying against "gay rights"
3) and getting busted in the mens room blowing a drug dealer...
I can see where her family life could have turned her away from men. Can you imagine having a golem for your dad?BigSkyBears wrote:Isn't Liz Cheny conservative and gay????Cleets Part 2 wrote:The one about a conservative being gay and living a quiet life..!!!
1) If a conservative is gay he's probably holding a political position
2) While he's rallying against "gay rights"
3) and getting busted in the mens room blowing a drug dealer...
