President to Speak on Gay Rights

[Rob Iola]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... id=topnews

President Obama will tout the imminent passage of long-delayed hate crime legislation when he addresses the nation's largest gay rights group on Saturday, as he seeks to allay concerns among some in the community that he is moving too slowly to prove his commitment to their cause.
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"The president has articulated unwavering support for it and a desire to sign it," said Melody Barnes, the president's top domestic policy adviser. "This is all part of a theme of steady, forward progress on issues that have been supported by the community."

But many activists say it will not be enough to ease their simmering frustration that Obama has not moved quickly on issues such as repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act or reversal of the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy.

Those concerns are unlikely to abate soon. Aides say Obama continues to support the goal of reversing both policies, but does not plan to make any major announcements about either in Saturday's speech. The delay has left some of his most ardent supporters frustrated.

"At a time when we're kind of broke and we're wondering where we're going to get the money, it'd make sense to focus some time on something that doesn't cost any money, like honoring the promise of our constitution to treat all of its citizens equally under the law," said Lane Hudson, a gay blogger and activist from the District.
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[Ivytalk]

Did he say anything profound? Or was it just more mush from the Teleprompter-in-Chief?

[Rob Iola]

He certainly didn't touch on anything meaningful, such as ending don't ask don't tell. Seriously, how hard is it to just end that silliness? If he can't handle the heat that comes from that kind of decision, then how in the world is he ever going to handle a tough foreign policy issue, like Afghanistan or Iran?

[Cleets Part 2]

He certainly didn't touch on anything meaningful, such as ending don't ask don't tell. Seriously, how hard is it to just end that silliness? If he can't handle the heat that comes from that kind of decision, then how in the world is he ever going to handle a tough foreign policy issue, like Afghanistan or Iran?

So let me see if I've got this right...
you're comparing Gay Rights to decisions on Afghanistan - I'm sorry is Rush Limbaugh renting up that much space in your frontal lobe that that actually makes some kind of sense


wow are we a divided nation - if that's an example of where are heads are at...

[Rob Iola]

He certainly didn't touch on anything meaningful, such as ending don't ask don't tell. Seriously, how hard is it to just end that silliness? If he can't handle the heat that comes from that kind of decision, then how in the world is he ever going to handle a tough foreign policy issue, like Afghanistan or Iran?

So let me see if I've got this right...
you're comparing Gay Rights to decisions on Afghanistan - I'm sorry is Rush Limbaugh renting up that much space in your frontal lobe that that actually makes some kind of sense


wow are we a divided nation - if that's an example of where are heads are at...

OK, so forget everything else - why can't Obama rescind don't ask don't tell?

[AZGrizFan]

He certainly didn't touch on anything meaningful, such as ending don't ask don't tell. Seriously, how hard is it to just end that silliness? If he can't handle the heat that comes from that kind of decision, then how in the world is he ever going to handle a tough foreign policy issue, like Afghanistan or Iran?

So let me see if I've got this right...
you're comparing Gay Rights to decisions on Afghanistan - I'm sorry is Rush Limbaugh renting up that much space in your frontal lobe that that actually makes some kind of sense


wow are we a divided nation - if that's an example of where are heads are at...

Swing and a miss, friend. You completely missed his point that there IS NO COMPARISON between the decisions, and yet the President can't even make the EASY ones because he's afraid of a little backlash. Hows he EVER going to make the HARD decisions, if that's the case?

[citdog]

So let me see if I've got this right...
you're comparing Gay Rights to decisions on Afghanistan - I'm sorry is Rush Limbaugh renting up that much space in your frontal lobe that that actually makes some kind of sense


wow are we a divided nation - if that's an example of where are heads are at...

OK, so forget everything else - why can't Obama rescind don't ask don't tell?

because doing so would undermine the good order and discipline of the Armed Forces. we all know that the navy is gay....but the Army and Marines.....not so much

[dbackjon]

OK, so forget everything else - why can't Obama rescind don't ask don't tell?

because doing so would undermine the good order and discipline of the Armed Forces. we all know that the navy is gay....but the Army and Marines.....not so much

I know a lot of gay ex-marines

[JMU DJ]

You also get these zealots roaming around when meetings/addresses like this occur. A photo a friend of mine snapped this morning driving around DC.




... do you think they have a bus rolling around protesting insurance companies who cover "domestic partnerships?" Me thinks not.

[Cleets Part 2]

So let me see if I've got this right...
you're comparing Gay Rights to decisions on Afghanistan - I'm sorry is Rush Limbaugh renting up that much space in your frontal lobe that that actually makes some kind of sense


wow are we a divided nation - if that's an example of where are heads are at...

OK, so forget everything else - why can't Obama rescind don't ask don't tell?

So let me see if I've got this right...
you're comparing Gay Rights to decisions on Afghanistan - I'm sorry is Rush Limbaugh renting up that much space in your frontal lobe that that actually makes some kind of sense


wow are we a divided nation - if that's an example of where are heads are at...

Swing and a miss, friend. You completely missed his point that there IS NO COMPARISON between the decisions, and yet the President can't even make the EASY ones because he's afraid of a little backlash. Hows he EVER going to make the HARD decisions, if that's the case?

No AZ I got his point... (and gee thanks for all the credit) I just think it's a silly point...
The decisions will be made when they need to be made

i don't get all the hand wringing and forehead sweat... exhale boys - theres 3 1/2 years left to ride him on every little thing

[dbackjon]

Cleets. It is easy enough for you to be patient. You could join the military and have your girlfriend openly kiss you.

You could get engaged and not have to worry about which state thousands of miles away you can get married in.

You don't have to worry about your marriage being recognized at any level.

Rights delayed are rights denied

[Ibanez]

Teresa Karr, my first date got married last month in Canada to the bull dyke she was dating.

On a personal not, who cares. I'd be willing to bet that if gays were able to marry, than everything related to the Wedding Industry would see a boom. We'd see more honeymoons, we'd have a country that is starting to show that it is true to it's orginial message of toleration (even though it's really bullshit.)

Then again, the government should have no part of marriage.

What's with you queers, stirring the pot?

[Cleets Part 2]

Cleets. It is easy enough for you to be patient. You could join the military and have your girlfriend openly kiss you.

You could get engaged and not have to worry about which state thousands of miles away you can get married in.

You don't have to worry about your marriage being recognized at any level.

Rights delayed are rights denied

oh... (sorry)
Sometimes I forget

[slycat]

You also get these zealots roaming around when meetings/addresses like this occur. A photo a friend of mine snapped this morning driving around DC.




... do you think they have a bus rolling around protesting insurance companies who cover "domestic partnerships?" Me thinks not.

WTF? Another r-tard. Looks like the loonies are having to stretch further and further to try and prove some point.

[AZGrizFan]

No AZ I got his point... (and gee thanks for all the credit) I just think it's a silly point...
The decisions will be made when they need to be made

i don't get all the hand wringing and forehead sweat... exhale boys - theres 3 1/2 years left to ride him on every little thing.

I'm not positive about how things "work" in Washington, but I'm pretty sure that it's as simple as saying "DADT is over". There's not a lot of "hand wringing" that should be happening....ON HIS PART.

[Skjellyfetti]

I'm not positive about how things "work" in Washington, but I'm pretty sure that it's as simple as saying "DADT is over". There's not a lot of "hand wringing" that should be happening....ON HIS PART.

It's not as simple as that at all. Obama can't just say "DADT is over." It has to be done by Congress.

[dbackjon]

I'm not positive about how things "work" in Washington, but I'm pretty sure that it's as simple as saying "DADT is over". There's not a lot of "hand wringing" that should be happening....ON HIS PART.

It's not as simple as that at all. Obama can't just say "DADT is over." It has to be done by Congress.

But, as C-in-C he could suspend enforcement of it, instead, it has gotten worse under his command - the fucking homophobe.

[AZGrizFan]

It's not as simple as that at all. Obama can't just say "DADT is over." It has to be done by Congress.

But, as C-in-C he could suspend enforcement of it, instead, it has gotten worse under his command - the fucking homophobe.

Exactly. THAT'S what I was talking about.

[citdog]

Cleets. It is easy enough for you to be patient. You could join the military and have your girlfriend openly kiss you.

You could get engaged and not have to worry about which state thousands of miles away you can get married in.

You don't have to worry about your marriage being recognized at any level.

Rights delayed are rights denied

sorry dude but what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong. you're a mentally ill sexual deviant. the people of this State will NEVER not call your behavior anything but what it is. you SHOULD NOT be able to serve openly in the military because you undermine the good order and discipline in the ranks. wtf is wrong with the rest of you pc douchebags who don't see this for what it is. A CRIME AGAIST NATURE. jon you're a pretty decent fella but you are going to bust hell wide open with the rest of your faggela assbuddies. SC, regardless of any court ruling, will NEVER recognize "marriages' betwixt 'bundles of sticks"

[D1B]

Cleets. It is easy enough for you to be patient. You could join the military and have your girlfriend openly kiss you.

You could get engaged and not have to worry about which state thousands of miles away you can get married in.

You don't have to worry about your marriage being recognized at any level.

Rights delayed are rights denied

sorry dude but what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong. you're a mentally ill sexual deviant. the people of this State will NEVER not call your behavior anything but what it is. you SHOULD NOT be able to serve openly in the military because you undermine the good order and discipline in the ranks. wtf is wrong with the rest of you pc douchebags who don't see this for what it is. A CRIME AGAIST NATURE. jon you're a pretty decent fella but you are going to bust hell wide open with the rest of your faggela assbuddies. SC, regardless of any court ruling, will NEVER recognize "marriages' betwixt 'bundles of sticks"

Citdog, you are one fucked up individual.

[AZGrizFan]

I support gays serving openly in the military.

Women too. Especially from Citadel.

[citdog]

I support gays serving openly in the military.

no shit......you were in the naval service which is TOTALLY GAY

[citdog]

sorry dude but what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong. you're a mentally ill sexual deviant. the people of this State will NEVER not call your behavior anything but what it is. you SHOULD NOT be able to serve openly in the military because you undermine the good order and discipline in the ranks. wtf is wrong with the rest of you pc douchebags who don't see this for what it is. A CRIME AGAIST NATURE. jon you're a pretty decent fella but you are going to bust hell wide open with the rest of your faggela assbuddies. SC, regardless of any court ruling, will NEVER recognize "marriages' betwixt 'bundles of sticks"

Citdog, you are one **** up individual.

COMING FROM YOU THAT IS A GIANT COMPLIMENT. THANKS!!!!

[AZGrizFan]

I support gays serving openly in the military.

no shit......you were in the naval service which is TOTALLY GAY

Especially the Shitadel guys on my ship.

[citdog]

no ****......you were in the naval service which is TOTALLY GAY

Especially the Shitadel guys on my ship.

NOT OUR FAULT THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE A PAIR AND WENT TO A CIVILIAN DOUCHE COLLEGE AND GOT PROMOTED BEHIND MEN FROM THE CITADEL AND EVENTUALLY WERE SENT OUT RATHER THAN UP