Gore Shuts Down Disseneter

[AZGrizFan]

The thing is, you DON'T actually consider them. You immediately dismiss the above posters and me as losers who have never had a real job or done anything for themselves. I like to give you, Tman and native shit, but I at least have an open enough mind to consider why you feel the way you do. The same can't be said of you fellas.

I see. When YOU "consider" another viewpoint and disagree, it's considered progressive. When I "consider" another viewpoint and disagree, I just don't "have an open mind to consider why you feel the way you do."

Dude, you REALLY ought to read what you type before you hit that little "submit" button.

I have "considered" MANY different viewpoints on this board....and have in fact changed my position on several key "conk" talking points after hearing lucid, factual explanations from the other side (offshore drilling, same sex marriage, stem cell research are three that immediately come to mind). But, I will NOT change my opinion on a subject just because you FEEL a certain way about it.

When you make up data, when you cherry pick data to fit your preconceived conclusions, when you sell out for the money....you HAVE poisoned the well (despite all of D's blathering to the contrary). You show me a study that PROVES man-made global warming, and I'll show you a study that's flawed, and follow the money back to groups with an agenda. That ain't science, man, that's propoganda. And to claim (and actually BELIEVE) that that shit only happens on ONE side of the aisle is naive at best and dangerous at worst.

[Cleets Part 2]

When you make up data, when you cherry pick data to fit your preconceived conclusions, when you sell out for the money....you HAVE poisoned the well (despite all of D's blathering to the contrary). You show me a study that PROVES man-made global warming, and I'll show you a study that's flawed, and follow the money back to groups with an agenda. That ain't science, man, that's propoganda. And to claim (and actually BELIEVE) that that shit only happens on ONE side of the aisle is naive at best and dangerous at worst.

I can't say that I appreciate your attitude Mr. Smarty Pants

[AZGrizFan]

I can't say that I appreciate your attitude Mr. Smarty Pants

It's the only one I've got on this shitty Monday, bud.

[D1B]

The thing is, you DON'T actually consider them. You immediately dismiss the above posters and me as losers who have never had a real job or done anything for themselves. I like to give you, Tman and native shit, but I at least have an open enough mind to consider why you feel the way you do. The same can't be said of you fellas.

I see. When YOU "consider" another viewpoint and disagree, it's considered progressive. When I "consider" another viewpoint and disagree, I just don't "have an open mind to consider why you feel the way you do."

Dude, you REALLY ought to read what you type before you hit that little "submit" button.

I have "considered" MANY different viewpoints on this board....and have in fact changed my position on several key "conk" talking points after hearing lucid, factual explanations from the other side (offshore drilling, same sex marriage, stem cell research are three that immediately come to mind). But, I will NOT change my opinion on a subject just because you FEEL a certain way about it.

When you make up data, when you cherry pick data to fit your preconceived conclusions, when you sell out for the money....you HAVE poisoned the well (despite all of D's blathering to the contrary). You show me a study that PROVES man-made global warming, and I'll show you a study that's flawed, and follow the money back to groups with an agenda. That ain't science, man, that's propoganda. And to claim (and actually BELIEVE) that that shit only happens on ONE side of the aisle is naive at best and dangerous at worst.

Again, Z, who is making up data and cherry picking, etc.? This is the last time I'll ask. I hope you will answer. Thanks.

[AZGrizFan]

Again, Z, who is making up data and cherry picking, etc.? This is the last time I'll ask. I hope you will answer. Thanks.

1) Al Gore
2) Just about every other scientist getting paid by the GW crowd.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/262415

http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2328

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/05/u ... te-report/

[D1B]

Again, Z, who is making up data and cherry picking, etc.? This is the last time I'll ask. I hope you will answer. Thanks.

1) Al Gore
2) Just about every other scientist getting paid by the GW crowd.

Nice cop out.

Be specific, like for example, give a some names of scientists or specific things Gore lied about. So far you're boiler plate conk. You're a good boy, doin everything Rush Limbaugh told to...

[AZGrizFan]

T-Man has started 30-some threads with multiple sources and it's never good enough. There's nothing could post that would make you go "oh, ok. Nevermind, I agree with you".

[D1B]

Again, Z, who is making up data and cherry picking, etc.? This is the last time I'll ask. I hope you will answer. Thanks.

1) Al Gore
2) Just about every other scientist getting paid by the GW crowd.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/262415

http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2328

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/05/u ... te-report/

Ok, your first source is a social networking/blog where anyone can contribute. Second here a excerpt from a bio of one of the contributors:

Dr. Spencer’s research has been entirely supported by U.S. government agencies: NASA, NOAA, and DOE.

So, using your fucked up logic, this guy is lying because he's paid by the government!

[AZGrizFan]

1) Al Gore
2) Just about every other scientist getting paid by the GW crowd.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/262415

http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2328

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/05/u ... te-report/

Ok, your first source is a social networking/blog where anyone can contribute. Second here a excerpt from a bio of one of the contributors:

Dr. Spencer’s research has been entirely supported by U.S. government agencies: NASA, NOAA, and DOE.

So, using your fucked up logic, this guy is lying because he's paid by the government!

Probably. Go back to baldy's post....follow the money.

[D1B]

Ok, your first source is a social networking/blog where anyone can contribute. Second here a excerpt from a bio of one of the contributors:

Probably. Go back to baldy's post....follow the money.

Your second "Blog": Here a comment from the author.

Steve McIntyre:
November 9th, 2007 at 10:58 am
#9. Tim's right that he error is corrected in the book. I would have thought that the DVD had gone though enough editions that they'd correct the error in new DVD prints. In the book, the 0 mark is at the correct spot.

So Al Gore is trying to pull a fast one on phd. physicists! Hey, Z, people make mistakes, your parents sure made a big one. There is a difference between making an honest mistake and lying.

[D1B]

Your third "Blog":

The fucking author is a former television weatherman! I shit you not.

About Anthony:

I’m a former television meteorologist who spent 25 years on the air and who also operates a weather technology and content business, as well as continues daily forecasting on radio, just for fun.

Damn Z, keep em coming, this shit is funny.

I would imagine there are quite a few of these. How bout pulling something from a better known and perhaps respectable source like National Geographic or one of scientific societies??

[AZGrizFan]

There is a difference between making an honest mistake and lying.

You're right. And AlGore is lying.

[D1B]

The thing is, you DON'T actually consider them. You immediately dismiss the above posters and me as losers who have never had a real job or done anything for themselves. I like to give you, Tman and native shit, but I at least have an open enough mind to consider why you feel the way you do. The same can't be said of you fellas.

I see. When YOU "consider" another viewpoint and disagree, it's considered progressive. When I "consider" another viewpoint and disagree, I just don't "have an open mind to consider why you feel the way you do."

Dude, you REALLY ought to read what you type before you hit that little "submit" button.

I have "considered" MANY different viewpoints on this board....and have in fact changed my position on several key "conk" talking points after hearing lucid, factual explanations from the other side (offshore drilling, same sex marriage, stem cell research are three that immediately come to mind). But, I will NOT change my opinion on a subject just because you FEEL a certain way about it.

When you make up data, when you cherry pick data to fit your preconceived conclusions, when you sell out for the money....you HAVE poisoned the well (despite all of D's blathering to the contrary). You show me a study that PROVES man-made global warming, and I'll show you a study that's flawed, and follow the money back to groups with an agenda. That ain't science, man, that's propoganda. And to claim (and actually BELIEVE) that that shit only happens on ONE side of the aisle is naive at best and dangerous at worst.

Z, your clan were the same retards who denied acid rain and depletion of the ozone layer. This is nothing new and history will be hard on you fucks, just like it was with your hero, W.

[D1B]

There is a difference between making an honest mistake and lying.

You're right. And AlGore is lying.

Yeah, you keep believing that, Rush.

[AZGrizFan]

Z, your clan were the same retards who denied acid rain and depletion of the ozone layer. This is nothing new and history will be hard on you fucks, just like it was with your hero, W.

Where have I ever said I DENY global warming is happening? ALL I have EVER said is that when you cherry pick data, lie about your process, and have a preconceived notion of what the data "should" tell you, you lose all credibility in the scientific world.

I'm squarely in the "global warming is happening but I'm not sure how much of it is man-caused" boat.

[D1B]

Z, your clan were the same retards who denied acid rain and depletion of the ozone layer. This is nothing new and history will be hard on you fucks, just like it was with your hero, W.

Where have I ever said I DENY global warming is happening? ALL I have EVER said is that when you cherry pick data, lie about your process, and have a preconceived notion of what the data "should" tell you, you lose all credibility in the scientific world.

I'm squarely in the "global warming is happening but I'm not sure how much of it is man-caused" boat.

Sorry Z, I missed that. No hard feelings I hope.

[AZGrizFan]

Where have I ever said I DENY global warming is happening? ALL I have EVER said is that when you cherry pick data, lie about your process, and have a preconceived notion of what the data "should" tell you, you lose all credibility in the scientific world.

I'm squarely in the "global warming is happening but I'm not sure how much of it is man-caused" boat.

Sorry Z, I missed that. No hard feelings I hope.

And I'm sorry. I should have remembered that those of you with short-term memory loss can't remember whether I'm a conk or a donk from one minute to the next, let alone remember my stance on global warming.

[Baldy]

Sorry Z, I missed that. No hard feelings I hope.

And I'm sorry. I should have remembered that those of you with short-term memory loss can't remember whether I'm a conk or a donk from one minute to the next, let alone remember my stance on global warming.

As you know, it comes with the territory, AZ.

Liberals = Knee Jerk Reactionaries.

[D1B]

And I'm sorry. I should have remembered that those of you with short-term memory loss can't remember whether I'm a conk or a donk from one minute to the next, let alone remember my stance on global warming.

As you know, it comes with the territory, AZ.

Liberals = Knee Jerk Reactionaries.

Yeah, next time someone fucks with me, I'm going to attack Indiana.

[Cap'n Cat]

And I'm sorry. I should have remembered that those of you with short-term memory loss can't remember whether I'm a conk or a donk from one minute to the next, let alone remember my stance on global warming.

As you know, it comes with the territory, AZ.

Liberals = Knee Jerk Reactionaries.

We learned from the best -

19 Saudis crash two planes into Twin Towers - Let's invade Iraq!!!!!!!!

[D1B]

As you know, it comes with the territory, AZ.

Liberals = Knee Jerk Reactionaries.

We learned from the best -

19 Saudis crash two planes into Twin Towers - Let's invade Iraq!!!!!!!!

I'm snickering right now.

[AZGrizFan]

As you know, it comes with the territory, AZ.

Liberals = Knee Jerk Reactionaries.

We learned from the best -

19 Saudis crash two planes into Twin Towers - Let's invade Iraq!!!!!!!!

That'll teach 'em.

[Wildcat Ryan]

An inconvienient truth showed in schools? Yes lets just brainwash our kids.

BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA............MMMMM, MMMMM, MMMMM

[Cleets Part 2]

An inconvienient truth showed in schools? Yes lets just brainwash our kids.

BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA............MMMMM, MMMMM, MMMMM

Brain washing implies a brain exists... I have my doubts after reading your posts

[SeattleGriz]

i'm not arguing the environmental groups have a lot of money... but compared to the bulk of the fortune 500 and the right wing anti-climate change groups?

z, this may be the most absurd thing you've ever said... (and that's going some)

Well, I may be wrong, but I seem to remember that this myth of yours was disproven over on AGS some time back. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. If I am, I'm man enough to admit it.

You are correct. I believe it was Time magazine had a cover stating that if you didn't believe in global warming, you were pretty much an idiot. In that article, they talked about the global warming deniers had spent some money for counter research. All the while, knowing that the global warming crowd had spent many, many times more money trying to prove global warming.