Will Weber Prevail over Montana?

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Re: Will Weber Prevail over Montana?

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True, but the stats I quoted are for BSC games only. And conversely, Weber has only gone over 40 twice, while the Griz have gotten 40+ in 4 of the last 5 games.
If Weber does not turn the ball over, I predict they will break 40 points against the Griz.
If weber breaks 40, the Griz will lose. Griz need to hold them to about 34-35....but based on how Weber has done against the bottom feeders (44 against ISU, 36 against PSU (vs 49 for Griz) and 28 against UNC), I'm going to take your bet. :nod:
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Re: Will Weber Prevail over Montana?

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One other thing: Weber has already inflated their stats (in theory) against the conference bottom feeders ISU and UNC. Montana still has BOTH those teams to beat up on. I'm going to guess that by the end of the season, the team stats will be a lot more similiar.
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If Weber does not turn the ball over, I predict they will break 40 points against the Griz.
If weber breaks 40, the Griz will lose. Griz need to hold them to about 34-35....but based on how Weber has done against the bottom feeders (44 against ISU, 36 against PSU (vs 49 for Griz) and 28 against UNC), I'm going to take your bet. :nod:
OK, but you have to come to Missoula to collect. :lol:
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If weber breaks 40, the Griz will lose. Griz need to hold them to about 34-35....but based on how Weber has done against the bottom feeders (44 against ISU, 36 against PSU (vs 49 for Griz) and 28 against UNC), I'm going to take your bet. :nod:
OK, but you have to come to Missoula to collect. :lol:
Fine, but not this weekend. :ohno:
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AZGrizFan wrote:One other thing: Weber has already inflated their stats (in theory) against the conference bottom feeders ISU and UNC. Montana still has BOTH those teams to beat up on. I'm going to guess that by the end of the season, the team stats will be a lot more similiar.
True dat, but Weber's best conference games have been against Eastern Washington and Sac State. I am thinking this weekend will be their best game of the regular season.

Go figure...
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native wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:One other thing: Weber has already inflated their stats (in theory) against the conference bottom feeders ISU and UNC. Montana still has BOTH those teams to beat up on. I'm going to guess that by the end of the season, the team stats will be a lot more similiar.
True dat, but Weber's best conference games have been against Eastern Washington and Sac State. I am thinking this weekend will be their best game of the regular season.

Go figure...
And Eastern's worst conference game was against Weber.
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native wrote: If Weber does not turn the ball over, I predict they will break 40 points against the Griz.
Wyoming, L 29-22; 5 turnovers (all interceptions)
Colorado State, L 24-23, 3 turnovers (2 int's, 1 fumble)
Idaho State, W 44-17, 0 turnovers
Portland State, W 36-29, 1 turnover (int) (losing this game with :15 seconds left)
Montana State, L 26-21, 4 turnovers (1 fumble, 3 int's)
Eastern Washington, W, 31-13, 1 turnover (int)
Sac State, W 49-10, 0 turnovers
UNC, W 28-20, 2 turnovers (2 fumbles lost) (1 point lead with 3:00 to play)

So, you're probably right. 3 losses, 12 turnovers. 5 wins, 4 turnovers. Montana, on the other hand, forces an average of 2 turnovers a game. Should be interesting...
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I think that Montana wins by two touchdowns.

Weber is tough but Higgins has been throwing a few picks that could prove costly and Montana just does not beat themselves (they did last year in Ogden) very often.

I think that Montana will simply outscore Weber.
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AZGrizFan wrote:One other thing: Weber has already inflated their stats (in theory) against the conference bottom feeders ISU and UNC. Montana still has BOTH those teams to beat up on. I'm going to guess that by the end of the season, the team stats will be a lot more similiar.

Conference only or all games?
Portland St scored more on WSU than Colorado St and the same amount as Wyoming: 29. UM would be the first team all year to get over 30 if they do it on our D.
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Before this past weekend I would have given us %15-20 chance of winning. After watching N Col blow winning that game I give us an %80-90 chance of winning.
Turnovers and playing all four quarters will decide it in our favor.
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weberwildcat wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:One other thing: Weber has already inflated their stats (in theory) against the conference bottom feeders ISU and UNC. Montana still has BOTH those teams to beat up on. I'm going to guess that by the end of the season, the team stats will be a lot more similiar.

Conference only or all games?
Portland St scored more on WSU than Colorado St and the same amount as Wyoming: 29. UM would be the first team all year to get over 30 if they do it on our D.
Well, we'll just have to wait until Saturday. As I said earlier, Weber hasn't given up 30, while Montana has SCORED 40+ in 4 of their past 5, and 35+ in 5 of their last 5.
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polsongrizz wrote:Before this past weekend I would have given us %15-20 chance of winning. After watching N Col blow winning that game I give us an %80-90 chance of winning.
Turnovers and playing all four quarters will decide it in our favor.
Interesting point if view. I have been between 40% and 60% for the past few weeks.
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polsongrizz wrote:Before this past weekend I would have given us %15-20 chance of winning. After watching N Col blow winning that game I give us an %80-90 chance of winning.
Turnovers and playing all four quarters will decide it in our favor.
Interesting point if view. I have been between 40% and 60% for the past few weeks.
Fuckin' fence-rider. :ohno: :ohno: :roll: :roll:

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AZGrizFan wrote:
native wrote:
Interesting point if view. I have been between 40% and 60% for the past few weeks.
****' fence-rider. :ohno: :ohno: :roll: :roll:

Take a STAND, man! :ohno:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
native wrote:
Interesting point if view. I have been between 40% and 60% for the past few weeks.
Fuckin' fence-rider. :ohno: :ohno: :roll: :roll:

Take a STAND, man! :ohno:
Why you corporate fucking lackey. Griz win by 10, ewe happy now... :nutkick:
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Interesting point if view. I have been between 40% and 60% for the past few weeks.
****' fence-rider. :ohno: :ohno: :roll: :roll:

Take a STAND, man! :ohno:
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polsongrizz wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Fuckin' fence-rider. :ohno: :ohno: :roll: :roll:

Take a STAND, man! :ohno:
Why you corporate fucking lackey. Griz win by 10, ewe happy now... :nutkick:
I wasn't talkin' to you, numbnuts. 80-90% IS taking a stand. 40-60% is NOT. :coffee: :kisswink:
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polsongrizz wrote: Why you corporate **** lackey. Griz win by 10, ewe happy now... :nutkick:
I wasn't talkin' to you, numbnuts. 80-90% IS taking a stand. 40-60% is NOT. :coffee: :kisswink:
The only thing I am on the fence about is whether or not Weber will win the turnover battle. But for turnovers, Weber SHOULD be 8-0 DI at this point - YES 8-0! But woulda coulda shoulda doesn't count worth shit.

Weber 41, Montana 34.

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The results of this poll are astounding to me.

Montana truthfully is not the best team there is at this point in the season (and it's pretty late). I am concerned about our chances. Weber has some dignified weapons that deserve the hype. I just know I'll be yelling as loud as possible.
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Grizaholic17 wrote:The results of this poll are astounding to me....
No they're not:

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I certainly think Weber is capable of winning this game, but I know how hard it is to win in Missoula. Gotta go with the Griz in this one, 38-35.
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native wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
I wasn't talkin' to you, numbnuts. 80-90% IS taking a stand. 40-60% is NOT. :coffee: :kisswink:
The only thing I am on the fence about is whether or not Weber will win the turnover battle. But for turnovers, Weber SHOULD be 8-0 DI at this point - YES 8-0! But woulda coulda shoulda doesn't count worth shit.

Weber 41, Montana 34.

PG: AZG was actually giving me a load about a post on the poli board, not really the UM-WSU game
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Be that as it is, the guy is a wad, he needs some serious medicating... :nod: :thumb: :rofl: :mrgreen:
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I don't know if anyone watched the WSU UNC game, it was on Altitude, but I can't believe no one has mentioned Bo Bolen of Weber State!! (IDK I may have missed it in a prior post)... But the kid is for real!! He had something like 35+ carries for over 200 yards. He got abused all day by UNC's defense and gave them plenty of abuse back. Bolen can break tackles and has above average speed.

IDK if Trevyn Smith will be back or not, which would be huge for WSU, but if they have both RB's healthy and can control the ground game it will be a long day...But, Bolen will be tested big time with that Montana crowd and they can get in your head big time.

Can't wait for the game!!! I guarantee it comes down to the end of the 4th and whoever plays with less mistakes wins.

WSU- 35
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UNC2857BEARS wrote:I don't know if anyone watched the WSU UNC game, it was on Altitude, but I can't believe no one has mentioned Bo Bolen of Weber State!! (IDK I may have missed it in a prior post)... But the kid is for real!! He had something like 35+ carries for over 200 yards. He got abused all day by UNC's defense and gave them plenty of abuse back. Bolen can break tackles and has above average speed.

IDK if Trevyn Smith will be back or not, which would be huge for WSU, but if they have both RB's healthy and can control the ground game it will be a long day...But, Bolen will be tested big time with that Montana crowd and they can get in your head big time.

Can't wait for the game!!! I guarantee it comes down to the end of the 4th and whoever plays with less mistakes wins.

WSU- 35
UM- 24

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Yup! Bo Bolen is the real deal and he is a nice kid, too. :nod:

Your analysis is sound. :thumb:
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