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Pwns wrote:Was the guy really arabic?

Also, whites and blacks commit more homicides than Arab Americans - do you distrust them too?

I try to take everyone on their own merits but they (blacks & whites) didn't fly any planes into two buildings because they hate this country and what it stands for. Whites and blacks in the military have not opened fire on unarmed people in the "green zone" (more than once) because the military is occupying Iraq. That is my point, these acts are changing my opinion of a religion their believers.....
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putter wrote:..after hearing about the shootings at Ft. Hood and the other incidents in Iraq, etc. I am really starting to distrust Arabs or Americans who are of Arab decent. I know it is wrong but if I was in the military I would be very nervous about being around these people becuase you never know if they are going to go off in the name of "alla". It ticks me off that these people are making me feel this way but I have to be honest that it is happening? Any of you feeling this way...? :cry:

Putter, what about the christians who bomb abortion clinics? What about born again George W. Bush killing 100,000 plus with his bullshit Iraq war.

It's not race, it's religion and christians are some of the worse. They hide their atrocities behind the flag. :coffee:
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D1B wrote:
putter wrote:..after hearing about the shootings at Ft. Hood and the other incidents in Iraq, etc. I am really starting to distrust Arabs or Americans who are of Arab decent. I know it is wrong but if I was in the military I would be very nervous about being around these people becuase you never know if they are going to go off in the name of "alla". It ticks me off that these people are making me feel this way but I have to be honest that it is happening? Any of you feeling this way...? :cry:

Putter, what about the christians who bomb abortion clinics? What about born again George W. Bush killing 100,000 plus with his bullshit Iraq war.

It's not race, it's religion and christians are some of the worse. They hide their atrocities behind the flag. :coffee:
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ASUG8 wrote: I don't know at what point you're a racist or just noticing the obvious.
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ASUG8 wrote: As soon as I heard this guy's name I started thinking that it was religious-based, and I was right again.
ASUG8 wrote:The only thing we KNOW is that some guy killed a bunch of folks on an army base. The rest is all speculation.
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Do all Americans of Arabic decent put "Palestinian" on their birth certificates???? Are some of you guys THICK???

Let's see:

1. Labeled himself a Palestinian on his birth certificate even though born in Arlington, VA.
2. Caught on video tape in religious garb at 7-11 seven hours before the shooting.
3. Had ranted publicly on message boards about suicide bombers are equal to American soldiers.
4. Had publicly stated that he was against being deployed to Iraq.

Are people THAT dumb not to put 2 and 2 together???
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Link to stories. I haven't heard a lot of that... like being in religious dress at 7/1 before the shooting.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
ASUG8 wrote: As soon as I heard this guy's name I started thinking that it was religious-based, and I was right again.
ASUG8 wrote:The only thing we KNOW is that some guy killed a bunch of folks on an army base. The rest is all speculation.
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I'm guessing there's a point you want to make in that emoticon somewhere. Read some news - he's Muslim, shouted "God is Great" in Arabic while shooting - he shot some people - that's what we know right now. Enlighten me on your point.
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ASUG8 wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:



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I'm guessing there's a point you want to make in that emoticon somewhere. Read some news - he's Muslim, shouted "God is Great" in Arabic while shooting - he shot some people - that's what we know right now. Enlighten me on your point.
It's speculation that he yeleld "Allah Akbar." The next sentence from the article you posted (that you left out of your copy and paste for some reason :lol: ):
Cone said officials had not yet confirmed that Hasan, 39, made the comment.
And my previous comment was about your posts contradicting themselves:
ASUG8 wrote: As soon as I heard this guy's name I started thinking that it was religious-based, and I was right again.
ASUG8 wrote:The only thing we KNOW is that some guy killed a bunch of folks on an army base. The rest is all speculation.
Get it?
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SMH @ some of you fvckers.


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Skjellyfetti wrote:
ASUG8 wrote:
I'm guessing there's a point you want to make in that emoticon somewhere. Read some news - he's Muslim, shouted "God is Great" in Arabic while shooting - he shot some people - that's what we know right now. Enlighten me on your point.
It's speculation that he yeleld "Allah Akbar." The next sentence from the article you posted (that you left out of your copy and paste for some reason :lol: ):
Cone said officials had not yet confirmed that Hasan, 39, made the comment.
And my previous comment was about your posts contradicting themselves:
ASUG8 wrote: As soon as I heard this guy's name I started thinking that it was religious-based, and I was right again.

ASUG8 wrote:The only thing we KNOW is that some guy killed a bunch of folks on an army base. The rest is all speculation.
Get it?
Here's the next sentence for you, KY. Who do you think Cone will confirm this with besides survivors and witnesses? Get it? :lol:


Survivors of the rampage said the suspect shouted "Allahu Akbar!" — "God is great!" in Arabic — before opening fire, according to Fort Hood base commander Lt. Gen. Robert Cone. Cone said officials had not yet confirmed that Hasan made the comment.

"That was reported by a few of the witnesses that were at the scene," Cone's deputy, Col. John Rossi, told Fox News.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572571,00.html

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Cap'n Cat wrote:SMH @ some of you fvckers.


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Sorry Cap'n, just stating my view. And D1B, the lunatics that bomb abortion clinics do scare the he!! out of me because they say life is sacred, unless you are already born and then sqrew you. Like the original title stated, I am pissed because you can tell when someone is Arab and these zealots, by their actions, make me do a double take when I am in an airport etc. and I don't like knowing that I have changed my attitude towards and entire people like that..... :x
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putter wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:SMH @ some of you fvckers.


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Sorry Cap'n, just stating my view. And D1B, the lunatics that bomb abortion clinics do scare the he!! out of me because they say life is sacred, unless you are already born and then sqrew you. Like the original title stated, I am pissed because you can tell when someone is Arab and these zealots, by their actions, make me do a double take when I am in an airport etc. and I don't like knowing that I have changed my attitude towards and entire people like that..... :x
I wouldn't let it get to you Putter. Everybody has their biases (some more than others) but in the post 9/11 world it's understandable to have a little twinge of bias against Muslims. I think the media probably feeds that fear to some extent when they focus on a person's religious affiliation, but that's where we are 8 yrs later. I still believe it's a few bad apples that we hear about most of the time and you really can't label all
Muslims as terrorists.
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I can agree with that. :thumb:
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ASUG8 wrote:
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Sorry Cap'n, just stating my view. And D1B, the lunatics that bomb abortion clinics do scare the he!! out of me because they say life is sacred, unless you are already born and then sqrew you. Like the original title stated, I am pissed because you can tell when someone is Arab and these zealots, by their actions, make me do a double take when I am in an airport etc. and I don't like knowing that I have changed my attitude towards and entire people like that..... :x
I wouldn't let it get to you Putter. Everybody has their biases (some more than others) but in the post 9/11 world it's understandable to have a little twinge of bias against Muslims. I think the media probably feeds that fear to some extent when they focus on a person's religious affiliation, but that's where we are 8 yrs later. I still believe it's a few bad apples that we hear about most of the time and you really can't label all
Muslims as terrorists.
Excellent point...taken. :thumb:
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D1B wrote:
putter wrote:..after hearing about the shootings at Ft. Hood and the other incidents in Iraq, etc. I am really starting to distrust Arabs or Americans who are of Arab decent. I know it is wrong but if I was in the military I would be very nervous about being around these people becuase you never know if they are going to go off in the name of "alla". It ticks me off that these people are making me feel this way but I have to be honest that it is happening? Any of you feeling this way...? :cry:

Putter, what about the christians who bomb abortion clinics? What about born again George W. Bush killing 100,000 plus with his bullshit Iraq war.

It's not race, it's religion and christians are some of the worse. They hide their atrocities behind the flag. :coffee:
Radical christians are some of the worst. There is a difference between believers and "claimers" I wouldn't say the ones who bomb clinics are filled with Christ's love and spirit
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mainejeff wrote:Do all Americans of Arabic decent put "Palestinian" on their birth certificates???? Are some of you guys THICK???

Let's see:

1. Labeled himself a Palestinian on his birth certificate even though born in Arlington, VA.
... not on his birth certificate. I don't think they've even released that information. It was on his form at the mosque he attended for men seeking a female partner. Still your point is semi-valid, why would he claim palastinian?

per your cited article:
Hasan attended prayers regularly when he lived outside Washington, often in his Army uniform, said Faizul Khan, a former imam at a mosque Hasan attended in Silver Spring, Md. He said Hasan was a lifelong Muslim.

"I got the impression that he was a committed soldier," Khan said. He spoke often with Hasan about Hasan's desire for a wife.

On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.

"I don't know why he listed Palestinian," Khan said, "He was not born in Palestine."

Nothing stood out about Hasan as radical or extremist, Khan said.

"We hardly ever got to discussing politics," Khan said. "Mostly we were discussing religious matters, nothing too controversial, nothing like an extremist."


2. Caught on video tape in religious garb at 7-11 seven hours before the shooting.
So? The guy at 7-11 said that was normal, nothing different from any other day. Guess I should be worried about all the people I work with who wear their traditional garb to work sometimes

3. Had ranted publicly on message boards about suicide bombers are equal to American soldiers.
Claims, unfounded thus far. They don't know if it was him as there hasn't been an investigation.

4. Had publicly stated that he was against being deployed to Iraq.
So? A lot of soldiers have issues about being deployed. There have been non-muslims who have gone AWOL, killed themselves and others over being deployed/related stress issues.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30678715/
http://www.gazette.com/articles/shot-64 ... icers.html


Are people THAT dumb not to put 2 and 2 together???
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Let's kick all muslim soldiers out of the military. We can probably get by without translators. They're all terrorists anyway.




I don't think his motive is clear yet. He was going to be deployed late this month. He was not thrilled about it. That could be the reason.
Doesn't he have that same thing in common with a gazillion other soldiers who DIDN'T shoot up a deployment center?

I'd say given the following choices:

1) He was mad about being deployed

OR

2) He is a Muslim with what is apparently a long string of warning signs ignored (although good luck trying to kick a guy like that out until AFTER he's killed people)

If I was trying to be an a$$hole hopeful apologist I'd go with #1.

If I was thinking with my head not stuck completely up my greasy starfish I'd go with #2.

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mainejeff - when did you turn into a Newsmax dittohead?

Repeating unsubstantiated "facts" that turn out to be false.


This is a bad situation - not as bad as Christian White Power advocate Timothy McVeigh, but horrid indeed.
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putter wrote:
Pwns wrote:Was the guy really arabic?

Also, whites and blacks commit more homicides than Arab Americans - do you distrust them too?

I try to take everyone on their own merits but they (whites) didn't fly any planes into two buildings because they hate this country and what it stands for.
No - they just build truck bombs and blow up federal buildings because they hate this country and what it stands for.
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dbackjon wrote:
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I try to take everyone on their own merits but they (whites) didn't fly any planes into two buildings because they hate this country and what it stands for.
No - they just build truck bombs and blow up federal buildings because they hate this country and what it stands for.
10,000 terrorist acts in the world perpetrated by peace-loving muslims and you've got ONE (ok, two with Kaszinksi) examples you can point to of a terrorist act perpetrated by a white man....WTF is it with donks hatred of the white male? :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
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No - they just build truck bombs and blow up federal buildings because they hate this country and what it stands for.
10,000 terrorist acts in the world perpetrated by peace-loving muslims and you've got ONE (ok, two with Kaszinksi) examples you can point to of a terrorist act perpetrated by a white man....WTF is it with donks hatred of the white male? :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
Very many more examples.

WHY would I hate myself. I hate gross generalizations.
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dbackjon wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
10,000 terrorist acts in the world perpetrated by peace-loving muslims and you've got ONE (ok, two with Kaszinksi) examples you can point to of a terrorist act perpetrated by a white man....WTF is it with donks hatred of the white male? :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
Very many more examples.

WHY would I hate myself. I hate gross generalizations.
OK. For every terrorist act you can come up with by a white man, I can come up with 1,000 by a muslim. But you'd rather wordsmith his post than understand his message. Typical.
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dbackjon wrote:mainejeff - when did you turn into a Newsmax dittohead?

Repeating unsubstantiated "facts" that turn out to be false.


This is a bad situation - not as bad as Christian White Power advocate Timothy McVeigh, but horrid indeed.
Huh?

Have you read the latest reports???

Hasan's neighbors on Friday said he cleaned out his apartment the morning of the shootings and gave copies of the Quran to several residents.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/06/for ... index.html

Get your head out of your *ss.

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