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mainejeff wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:I was calling him out as well as everybody else jumping to conclusions about this Army major being a muslim terrorist because of his name.
But he IS a Muslim AND a TERRORIST! He also decided to be a Palestinian even though he was born in the United States. What say you?
Not so sure about that. Unless any person that goes nuts and kills people with an Arabic name is a terrorist. :?

Not sure we know what his motive is at this point. If he killed the US soldiers in the name of Allah... I'd call him a terrorist. If he went nuts because he doesn't want to be deployed... I don't think he's a terrorist.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
But he IS a Muslim AND a TERRORIST! He also decided to be a Palestinian even though he was born in the United States. What say you?
Not so sure about that. Unless any person that goes nuts and kills people with an Arabic name is a terrorist. :?

Not sure we know what his motive is at this point. If he killed the US soldiers in the name of Allah... I'd call him a terrorist. If he went nuts because he doesn't want to be deployed... I don't think he's a terrorist.
If you want to be a simpleton, be my guest........seems to be in vogue right now in this country.

Shooter = Muslim = Committed act or terror = TERRORIST. If that's too harsh for you........I'll just call him a Muslim Murderer.
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mainejeff wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Not so sure about that. Unless any person that goes nuts and kills people with an Arabic name is a terrorist. :?

Not sure we know what his motive is at this point. If he killed the US soldiers in the name of Allah... I'd call him a terrorist. If he went nuts because he doesn't want to be deployed... I don't think he's a terrorist.
If you want to be a simpleton, be my guest........seems to be in vogue right now in this country.

Shooter = Muslim = Committed act or terror = TERRORIST. If that's too harsh for you........I'll just call him a Muslim Murderer.
You're the poster child for birth control, Jeffie. And a classic example of "ready....shoot....aim". You (like most of the rest of the world) knows virtually nothing about his reasons at this point. I don't know how you type with both feet in your mouth, but I digress.
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ASUG8 wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
If you want to be a simpleton, be my guest........seems to be in vogue right now in this country.

Shooter = Muslim = Committed act or terror = TERRORIST. If that's too harsh for you........I'll just call him a Muslim Murderer.
You're the poster child for birth control, Jeffie. And a classic example of "ready....shoot....aim". You (like most of the rest of the world) knows virtually nothing about his reasons at this point. I don't know how you type with both feet in your mouth, but I digress.
He could be correct but why not see what the reasons are first is my thinking. It makes for a lot more interesting read when he takes the stand without all the facts in his possession though. :thumb:
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
ASUG8 wrote:
You're the poster child for birth control, Jeffie. And a classic example of "ready....shoot....aim". You (like most of the rest of the world) knows virtually nothing about his reasons at this point. I don't know how you type with both feet in your mouth, but I digress.
He could be correct but why not see what the reasons are first is my thinking. It makes for a lot more interesting read when he takes the stand without all the facts in his possession though. :thumb:
It's kinda cute - almost Forrest Gump-like :rofl:
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: He could be correct but why not see what the reasons are first is my thinking. It makes for a lot more interesting read when he takes the stand without all the facts in his possession though. :thumb:
It's kinda cute - almost Forrest Gump-like :rofl:
Striving for fairness is one thing, but hiding behind such blind political correctness is entirely another. Shame on you, ASUG8!
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ASUG8 wrote:
It's kinda cute - almost Forrest Gump-like :rofl:
Striving for fairness is one thing, but hiding behind such blind political correctness is entirely another. Shame on you, ASUG8!
I think this may be the first time in my life somebody called me PC. :shock: :lol:
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ASUG8 wrote:
native wrote:
Striving for fairness is one thing, but hiding behind such blind political correctness is entirely another. Shame on you, ASUG8!
I think this may be the first time in my life somebody called me PC. :shock: :lol:
Yup, I was shocked! You are usually on target! Thus, the scolding.

There is enough information out there to understand that, at a minimum, this was a pre-planned terrorist attack, Islam was a critical motivating factor, and furthermore that the United States Army has been so emasculated by political correctness that it failed to heed abundant warning signs.
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native wrote:
ASUG8 wrote:
I think this may be the first time in my life somebody called me PC. :shock: :lol:
Yup, I was shocked! You are usually on target! Thus, the scolding.

There is enough information out there to understand that, at a minimum, this was a pre-planned terrorist attack, Islam was a critical motivating factor, and furthermore that the United States Army has been so emasculated by political correctness that it failed to heed abundant warning signs.
Yup......Americans don't want to hear it though. :roll: :(

I'm surprised that people haven't accused me of listening to Rush or watching Fox News too much. :roll: :roll: :roll:

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mainejeff wrote:
native wrote:
Yup, I was shocked! You are usually on target! Thus, the scolding.

There is enough information out there to understand that, at a minimum, this was a pre-planned terrorist attack, Islam was a critical motivating factor, and furthermore that the United States Army has been so emasculated by political correctness that it failed to heed abundant warning signs.
Yup......Americans don't want to hear it though. :roll: :( ...

Many, if not most Americans already believe it MJ! The elites in the power structure are too beholden to foreign interests, liberal academia and themselves to acknowledge the truth. This will change a bit after November, 2010.
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native wrote:Many, if not most Americans already believe it MJ! The elites in the power structure are too beholden to foreign interests, liberal academia and themselves to acknowledge the truth. This will change a bit after November, 2010.
Faces will change.......but unfortunately, a new religious/social agenda from the Right will ensue........it's as predictable as the daily suicide bombings in the Middle East. America is f*cked! :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
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native wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
Yup......Americans don't want to hear it though. :roll: :( ...

Many, if not most Americans already believe it MJ! The elites in the power structure are too beholden to foreign interests, liberal academia and themselves to acknowledge the truth. This will change a bit after November, 2010.
How? Oh...you mean the Republicans will gain more seats.....& if history is any indication, they're certainly not too beholden to foreign interests nor too interested in maintaining their power to acknowledge the truth.... :roll: ...

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Stop while you're behind, Native. Yes, a large segment in this country is too concerned with PC to acknowledge the truth about certain incidents. However, expecting Republicans (or any career politicians) to provide leadership in this arena is setting yourself up for disappointment....& surely you're not too beholden to one idealogy to ackowledge that truth... :coffee:
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We need to get over the concept that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". :coffee:
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AZGrizFan wrote:We need to get over the concept that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". :coffee:
:nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:

Look where that got us: The Taliban.

Our enemies should to be used and manipulated against each other, but they aren't our friends.
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AZGrizFan wrote:We need to get over the concept that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". :coffee:
:nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:

Look where that got us: The Taliban.

Our enemies should to be used and manipulated against each other, but they aren't our friends.
It's also what ultimately got us in bed with Hussein in the 80's. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: (and there's countless other examples as well).
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Appaholic wrote:
native wrote:
Many, if not most Americans already believe it MJ! The elites in the power structure are too beholden to foreign interests, liberal academia and themselves to acknowledge the truth. This will change a bit after November, 2010.
How? Oh...you mean the Republicans will gain more seats.....& if history is any indication, they're certainly not too beholden to foreign interests nor too interested in maintaining their power to acknowledge the truth.... :roll: ...
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Stop while you're behind, Native. Yes, a large segment in this country is too concerned with PC to acknowledge the truth about certain incidents. However, expecting Republicans (or any career politicians) to provide leadership in this arena is setting yourself up for disappointment....& surely you're not too beholden to one idealogy to ackowledge that truth... :coffee:
Republicans suck, but not nearly as much as Democrats. I am not ahead, I am behind, and so are you! We are all behind, and all the oblivious PC idiots are even farther behind than I am, to the extreme detriment of our country.

What is your vision to get ahead? Here is what would get us started down the path to individual and national success in the long run:

1. A libertarian federal government at about a fifth its current size based on the originalist interpretation of the Constitution.
2. A minimal safety net meant for survival, not a lifestyle guarantee or reward for sloth.
3. Free enterprise and Right to Work as the law of the land.
4. Free trade first, fair trade when free trade is not possible.
5. Vigorous exploitation of US hydrocarbons for the next 100 years, coupled with vigorous research for sustainable alternatives.
6. A strong maritime foreign policy that ruthlessly defends the lives of Americans abroad and US commercial interests.
7. Generous LEGAL immigration policy for those who truly demonstrate the desire and capacity to become loyal productive Americans and not create the United Nations of America.
8. A new Commonwealth of free democratic commercial countries to replace the UN.
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native wrote:
1. A libertarian federal government at about a fifth its current size based on the originalist interpretation of the Constitution.
2. A minimal safety net meant for survival, not a lifestyle guarantee or reward for sloth.
3. Free enterprise and Right to Work as the law of the land.
4. Free trade first, fair trade when free trade is not possible.
5. Vigorous exploitation of US hydrocarbons for the next 100 years, coupled with vigorous research for sustainable alternatives.
6. A strong maritime foreign policy that ruthlessly defends the lives of Americans abroad and US commercial interests.
7. Generous LEGAL immigration policy for those who truly demonstrate the desire and capacity to become loyal productive Americans and not create the United Nations of America.
8. A new Commonwealth of free democratic commercial countries to replace the UN.
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I agree with most of that..!!!! :agree:
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native wrote:
Appaholic wrote:
How? Oh...you mean the Republicans will gain more seats.....& if history is any indication, they're certainly not too beholden to foreign interests nor too interested in maintaining their power to acknowledge the truth.... :roll: ...

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Stop while you're behind, Native. Yes, a large segment in this country is too concerned with PC to acknowledge the truth about certain incidents. However, expecting Republicans (or any career politicians) to provide leadership in this arena is setting yourself up for disappointment....& surely you're not too beholden to one idealogy to ackowledge that truth... :coffee:
Republicans suck, but not nearly as much as Democrats. I am not ahead, I am behind, and so are you! We are all behind, and all the oblivious PC idiots are even farther behind than I am, to the extreme detriment of our country.

What is your vision to get ahead? Here is what would get us started down the path to individual and national success in the long run:

1. A libertarian federal government at about a fifth its current size based on the originalist interpretation of the Constitution.
2. A minimal safety net meant for survival, not a lifestyle guarantee or reward for sloth.
3. Free enterprise and Right to Work as the law of the land.
4. Free trade first, fair trade when free trade is not possible.
5. Vigorous exploitation of US hydrocarbons for the next 100 years, coupled with vigorous research for sustainable alternatives.
6. A strong maritime foreign policy that ruthlessly defends the lives of Americans abroad and US commercial interests.
7. Generous LEGAL immigration policy for those who truly demonstrate the desire and capacity to become loyal productive Americans and not create the United Nations of America.
8. A new Commonwealth of free democratic commercial countries to replace the UN.
...
Although you're list is nice, it holds more credibility if you lose the first sentence....why the need to rationalize & accept degrees of shittiness from either party?
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Appaholic wrote:
native wrote:

Many, if not most Americans already believe it MJ! The elites in the power structure are too beholden to foreign interests, liberal academia and themselves to acknowledge the truth. This will change a bit after November, 2010.
How? Oh...you mean the Republicans will gain more seats.....& if history is any indication, they're certainly not too beholden to foreign interests nor too interested in maintaining their power to acknowledge the truth.... :roll: ...

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Stop while you're behind, Native. Yes, a large segment in this country is too concerned with PC to acknowledge the truth about certain incidents. However, expecting Republicans (or any career politicians) to provide leadership in this arena is setting yourself up for disappointment....& surely you're not too beholden to one idealogy to ackowledge that truth... :coffee:
Point taken, but I am not angling for beauty points. I believe it to be true. It's like the difference between a murder-rapist and a burglar. I would rather be robbed than raped, murdered AND robbed all at the same time.
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native wrote:I would rather be.....raped...
Typical Republican...

















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