I Thought There Was A "War On Christmas"??

[Cap'n Cat]

Even if what you say is completely true, the Christian traditions are still 100% superior to the left's alternatives.

And those are, ConkBoy?

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[Ibanez]

My wife keeps a pink Christmas tree up year round at work and has never had someone tell her it is offensive. On a similar note, I was talking with a Jewish co-worker about the shaft they get in not having Chanukah, a paid holiday.

[Cap'n Cat]

Even if what you say is completely true, the Christian traditions are still 100% superior to the left's alternatives.

And those are, ConkBoy?

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Yeah, I thought so. Talkin' outta yer Conk ass, again.

It never gets old!

[JMU DJ]

I think Christians have a beef when they actually celebrate j.c.'s birth on the real date and quit co-opting pagan traditions like the Christmas tree and celebration of the winter solstice.

The only war here is oreilly's attack on intelligence.

You know someone who celebrates December 21st?

The gap does, just check out the lyric below

The attack on Xmas seems to have backfired this year

Gap's Christmas cheer makes a boycott backfire
The American Family Assn. attacked Gap for not using the word 'Christmas' in its advertising -- but in fact it does, and in a big way too.

If you've seen the gap add on TV, it clearly says Christmas... here's the lyric:

"Go Christmas, go Hanukkah, go Kwanzaa, go solstice,"

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-c ... 0716.story

[Wedgebuster]

Thinking about buying myself a new over/under for X-Mas.

Thank you Jebus!

[AZGrizFan]

The winter solstice, as everyone knows, is a pagan celebration, so -- viewed through a peculiarly warped lens -- the Gap ad puts Christians on the same level as a bunch of blue-painted heathens dancing around a Yule log drinking mead out of a stag horn.
How dare they! I call for a double boycott.

From DJ's article....I don't care who you are....that's FUNNY.

[ASUMountaineer]

That actually bothers me as well.


I am not the best Christian around, but when it comes to things like Christmas and Easter I make sure to celebrate the true reason for those holidays.

I cringe every time someone says Mary X-mas or something like that. There is a reason it is call CHRISTmas, and thus it should be celebrated as such.


I understand that much like Valentines Day, and even now Easter, we are told that everyone needs to celebrate, buy gifts, and all of that ****. However, I don't agree. I don't celebrate Chanukah, Ramadan, Rash sha'shana, etc... nor does anyone else outside of the religions.


Just my opinion.

Do a little history on Christmas....the "true" meaning of Christmas was hijacked by Christians in an effort to piggyback onto the success of a pagan holiday....most "true" organized Christian religions attempted to outlaw Christmas as we know it and when they weren't successful, joined in by incorporating the birth of Christ into celebration....True Christmas celebrations have nothing to do with Christ...

Nearly all aspects of Christmas observance have their roots in Roman custom and religion. Consider the following admission from a large American newspaper (The Buffalo News, Nov. 22, 1984): “The earliest reference to Christmas being marked on Dec. 25 comes from the second century after Jesus’ birth. It is considered likely the first Christmas celebrations were in reaction to the Roman Saturnalia, a harvest festival that marked the winter solstice—the return of the sun—and honored Saturn, the god of sowing. Saturnalia was a rowdy time, much opposed by the more austere leaders among the still-minority Christian sect. Christmas developed, one scholar says, as a means of replacing worship of the sun with worship of the Son. By 529 A.D., after Christianity had become the official state religion of the Roman Empire, Emperor Justinian made Christmas a civic holiday. The celebration of Christmas reached its peak—some would say its worst moments—in the medieval period when it became a time for conspicuous consumption and unequaled revelry.”

Consider these quotes from the Catholic Encyclopedia, 1911 edition, under “Christmas”: “Christmas was not among the earliest festivals of the Church…The first evidence of the feast is from Egypt.” Further, “Pagan customs centring round the January calends gravitated to Christmas.” Under “Natal Day,” Origen, an early Catholic writer, admitted, “…In the Scriptures, no one is recorded to have kept a feast or held a great banquet on his birthday. It is only sinners (like Pharaoh and Herod) who make great rejoicings over the day on which they were born into this world” (emphasis mine).

The Encyclopedia Americana, 1956 edition, adds, “Christmas…was not observed in the first centuries of the Christian church, since the Christian usage in general was to celebrate the death of remarkable persons rather than their birth…a feast was established in memory of this event [Christ’s birth] in the 4th century. In the 5th century the Western church ordered the feast to be celebrated on the day of the Mithraic rites of the birth of the sun and at the close of the Saturnalia, as no certain knowledge of the day of Christ’s birth existed.”

There is no mistaking the origin of the modern Christmas celebration. Many additional sources could be cited and we will return to this later. Let’s begin to tie some other facts together.

It was 300 years after Christ before the Roman church kept Christmas, and not until the fifth century that it was mandated to be kept throughout the empire as an official festival honoring “Christ.”
http://www.thercg.org/books/ttooc.html

I don't have a problem with the co-opting of the pagan holidays by the church, just wish they'd be honest about it. That's how a lot of things have happened throughout history (stealing things ). At my church, growing up, they told us that no one knew the real date of Christ's birth. So, the old church decided to work it in to an existing holiday. Rightly or wrongly at the time, it was done and became a staple, my church was just honest about it.

[ASUMountaineer]

I cringe every time someone says Mary X-mas or something like that. There is a reason it is call CHRISTmas, and thus it should be celebrated as such.

Xmas comes from Xristo in Greek. And X was the symbol for Christ in Greek.

"Xmas" isn't part of a liberal conspiracy to undermine Christmas. I promise.

If only everyone knew that. Hell, my name is Christopher (go by Chris) and my buddy Nate used to call me "X" all the time (I guess he thought it was close enough).

[mainejeff]

I saw the Carrie Underwood Christmas Special last night and she mentioned Christmas and Jesus numerous times. This tactic used by the Right every holiday......err, Christmas season is tired, old, lame, etc.

[ASUMountaineer]

I saw the Carrie Underwood Christmas Special last night and she mentioned Christmas and Jesus numerous times. This tactic used by the Right every holiday......err, Christmas season is tired, old, lame, etc.

She dated Tony Romo...credibility ruined.