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JoltinJoe wrote:
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But fails to answer your question.
As I said, some issues are too complex to have a meaningful discussion over a message board.

That being said, I think the more relevant question is what have WE done for the betterment of mankind in the name of God, and that in each respect, it is a personal question.

Joe do you believe that man descended from apes?
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D1B wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:
As I said, some issues are too complex to have a meaningful discussion over a message board.

That being said, I think the more relevant question is what have WE done for the betterment of mankind in the name of God, and that in each respect, it is a personal question.

Joe do you believe that man descended from apes?
No.

I believe man evolved from the apes. (Perhaps you might say man "ascended" from the apes).
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JoltinJoe wrote:
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Joe do you believe that man descended from apes?
No.

I believe man evolved from the apes. (Perhaps you might say man "ascended" from the apes).
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JoltinJoe wrote:
D1B wrote:

Joe do you believe that man descended from apes?
No.

I believe man evolved from the apes. (Perhaps you might say man "ascended" from the apes).
So you don't really believe the genesis stuff then...
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Not all Christians take the Bible, particularly the Old Testament LITERALLY.
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andy7171 wrote:Not all Christians take the Bible, particularly the Old Testament LITERALLY.

I do.
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andy7171 wrote:Not all Christians take the Bible, particularly the Old Testament LITERALLY.

I do.
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andy7171 wrote:Not all Christians take the Bible, particularly the Old Testament LITERALLY.
What parts do you take literally and why?
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Cap'n Cat wrote:Jesus Freaks, what good has "God" ever done for mankind in the past five thousand years?
Not just mankind, all sentient life.

The ability to both experience and understand "pain" and "pleasure".

The ability to both experience and understand "loss".

The ability to both experience and understand "hope".

The ability to recognize that man, as narcissitic as we've become, can still understand that there are entities which may be more advanced than humans...including a singular omniscient presence.

The ability to embrace thought which does not agree with our own, and understand that the people who hold those thoughts are equally important to our own survival.

These are held out from merely stating "emotional", "subjective" response, as concepts such as "hope" and "loss" represent life-shaping motivations, emanating from illogical emotions unnecessary for our survival.
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travelinman67 wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:Jesus Freaks, what good has "God" ever done for mankind in the past five thousand years?
Not just mankind, all sentient life.

The ability to both experience and understand "pain" and "pleasure".

The ability to both experience and understand "loss".

The ability to both experience and understand "hope".

The ability to recognize that man, as narcissitic as we've become, can still understand that there are entities which may be more advanced than humans...including a singular omniscient presence.

The ability to embrace thought which does not agree with our own, and understand that the people who hold those thoughts are equally important to our own survival.

These are held out from merely stating "emotional", "subjective" response, as concepts such as "hope" and "loss" represent life-shaping motivations, emanating from illogical emotions unnecessary for our survival.

Bunk, but well stated.

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JoltinJoe wrote:
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Joe do you believe that man descended from apes?
No.

I believe man evolved from the apes. (Perhaps you might say man "ascended" from the apes).
Humans didn't evolve from apes. Humans and apes share a common ancestor. At some point, they branched off just as humans branched off into homo sapiens sapiens and homo sapiens neanderthalis. When the bible-thumpers say they didn't evolve from apes, they're actually correct. It's the only thing they're right about, though.
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D1B wrote:
andy7171 wrote:Not all Christians take the Bible, particularly the Old Testament LITERALLY.
What parts do you take literally and why?
The message of peace and love, because I am a peace and love guy :kisswink:
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CitadelGrad wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:
No.

I believe man evolved from the apes. (Perhaps you might say man "ascended" from the apes).
Humans didn't evolve from apes. Humans and apes share a common ancestor. At some point, they branched off just as humans branched off into homo sapiens sapiens and homo sapiens neanderthalis. When the bible-thumpers say they didn't evolve from apes, they're actually correct. It's the only thing they're right about, though.

Thanks for the clarification. He knew what I meant and where I'd go with it, hence his (Joltin Joe) absence. :geek:
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Gil Dobie wrote:
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What parts do you take literally and why?
The message of peace and love, because I am a peace and love guy :kisswink:
Me too Gil.

Sooooo, why all the church bullshit? Why organized religion? Do you really need a multi-billion dollar city-state to teach this to you?
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CID1990 wrote:Everything is determined by forces over which we have no control. It is determined for the insect as well as for the star. Human beings, vegetables, or cosmic dust - we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance by an invisible piper.

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