I have a Bachelors Degree in Wildlife Management, drove a 50 mph car in the 1980's/90's before it was cool to drive a high mileage vehicle. If I never road a bicycle again, I would have more miles than any of you "do as I say, not as I do algorian Donks" could ride the rest of your life. Taking a gas guzzling motorboat out on a lake to fish, and drinking beer from a styrofoam cooler isn't exactly enjoying the environment. Taking a canoe or kayak is more enjoyable and eco-friendly. Richard Nixon cleaned up America's highways, and yes, I was there walking the ditches in the 1970's, picking up Donk beer containers. The gang of hypocritical Donks jumped on the bandwagon because algore did.
I didn't know that only donks had motorboats, drank beer and littered.
Yeah, well now you DO.
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I have a Bachelors Degree in Wildlife Management, drove a 50 mph car in the 1980's/90's before it was cool to drive a high mileage vehicle. If I never road a bicycle again, I would have more miles than any of you "do as I say, not as I do algorian Donks" could ride the rest of your life. Taking a gas guzzling motorboat out on a lake to fish, and drinking beer from a styrofoam cooler isn't exactly enjoying the environment. Taking a canoe or kayak is more enjoyable and eco-friendly. Richard Nixon cleaned up America's highways, and yes, I was there walking the ditches in the 1970's, picking up Donk beer containers. The gang of hypocritical Donks jumped on the bandwagon because algore did.
I didn't know that only donks had motorboats, drank beer and littered.
Sorry if you didn't get I was talking to and about D1B and the algorian Donks, not all Donks, and not Conks.
"Even something 1 kilometer [0.6 miles] away could be dumped into the sea in a matter of years," Anderson said.
5280 ft / 45 ft = 117 years
A bit misleading.
If there is real concern for losing real estate, bulkhead, rip rap and gabion have a purpose. Losing ground to the sea is NOT a new thing.
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DJH wrote:
No, its not overwhelming. There is evidence that the earth has been warming, but none that says man is the reason for it.
I don't think we are sure just how much man is affecting climate change. It's too soon to make a definitive statement on either side of the debate.
Saying that we have had no effect on climate change is just as wrong as putting all the blame on us.
I think it is arrogant for humans to think they know what the climate is going to do off 100 years of data, when the earth has been doin its thang for MILLIONS!! That is like sampling a cup of water from the Passaic river (shitty river by my house) and applying it to all the water in the world.
The earth has had tons and tons of huge changes, including changes in climate in its history, and almost all of them happened before man was even on the planet.
BlueHen86 wrote:
I don't think we are sure just how much man is affecting climate change. It's too soon to make a definitive statement on either side of the debate.
Saying that we have had no effect on climate change is just as wrong as putting all the blame on us.
I think it is arrogant for humans to think they know what the climate is going to do off 100 years of data, when the earth has been doin its thang for MILLIONS!! That is like sampling a cup of water from the Passaic river (shitty river by my house) and applying it to all the water in the world.
But it would be stupid not to try and study the climate and learn what we can. I agree that the sample size may be too small to make any kind of definite statement, but we have to use what we can.
The problem isn't the scientists who are genuinely trying to learn, it's the people (some scientists included) who are making claims as if they are fact.
DJH wrote:The earth has had tons and tons of huge changes, including changes in climate in its history, and almost all of them happened before man was even on the planet.
You are correct. That doesn't mean that man isn't affecting the climate now.
DJH wrote:The earth has had tons and tons of huge changes, including changes in climate in its history, and almost all of them happened before man was even on the planet.
Most everything happened before man, or as widerright pointed out for MILLIONS of years.
On second thought if a tree falls in the forest...
I think it is arrogant for humans to think they know what the climate is going to do off 100 years of data, when the earth has been doin its thang for MILLIONS!! That is like sampling a cup of water from the Passaic river (shitty river by my house) and applying it to all the water in the world.
But it would be stupid not to try and study the climate and learn what we can. I agree that the sample size may be too small to make any kind of definite statement, but we have to use what we can.
The problem isn't the scientists who are genuinely trying to learn, it's the people (some scientists included) who are making claims as if they are fact.
Spot on Blue Hen. For some people, black and white answers are just easier to cope with.
andy7171 wrote:"Even something 1 kilometer [0.6 miles] away could be dumped into the sea in a matter of years," Anderson said.
5280 ft / 45 ft = 117 years
A bit misleading.
If there is real concern for losing real estate, bulkhead, rip rap and gabion have a purpose. Losing ground to the sea is NOT a new thing.
Wouldn't global warming help in Alaska in freeing up real estate?
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Man cannot affect the climate, get over yourselves.
I will really start to listen to your side when you can STOP a hurricane, lighting or a tornado............by your logic if you can do one YOU should be able to do the other.
Get back to me when your finished and then we can have some open dialog, until then your just playing politics.
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