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BDKJMU wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:I think Hauck will survive. The Griz couldn't stop the run down the stretch. Was that the coach's fault?
When it happens over and over again, maybe. JMU in 04', UR last yr, now Nova. Smashmouth football just rolling up the yardage on the ground, esp in the 2nd half.
The Griz were only run over completely in two of those. Richmond did run for 208, but they did nothing at all on offense in the second half. The Richmond pass rush won that game.

And how is two games "over & over again"? Remember the Griz were only allowing about 90 ypg coming into the title game and they are always one of the top run defenses in FCS each season.

Also, Villanova's offense isn't really "smashmouth". They run a spread option and never leave the shotgun. It's all about running around the end for them.
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Very interesting thread.

Seems that half of the people posting want Hauck fired because he seems to be unable to win the "big one". I could swear that a handful of the same "fire Hauck" crowd (not just Montana fans) had some rather unpleasant things to say about Georgia Southern when Mike Sewak was fired.

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Baldy wrote:Very interesting thread.

Seems that half of the people posting want Hauck fired because he seems to be unable to win the "big one". I could swear that a handful of the same "fire Hauck" crowd (not just Montana fans) had some rather unpleasant things to say about Georgia Southern when Mike Sewak was fired.

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Baldy wrote:Very interesting thread.

Seems that half of the people posting want Hauck fired because he seems to be unable to win the "big one". I could swear that a handful of the same "fire Hauck" crowd (not just Montana fans) had some rather unpleasant things to say about Georgia Southern when Mike Sewak was fired.

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Former UM AD Bill Moos was the UNLV AD candidate of choice until he had to withdraw due to a restriction within his Oregon severance package. I am unaware of any connection Livingood has with Montana. It's also not so clear why he would leave Arizona to jump to UNLV unless there was some pressure.
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kemajic wrote:Former UM AD Bill Moos was the UNLV AD candidate of choice until he had to withdraw due to a restriction within his Oregon severance package. I am unaware of any connection Livingood has with Montana. It's also not so clear why he would leave Arizona to jump to UNLV unless there was some pressure.
Most of the prominent Arizona boosters were unhappy with Livengood - especially the way the whole Lute Olson circus happened.
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dbackjon wrote:
kemajic wrote:Former UM AD Bill Moos was the UNLV AD candidate of choice until he had to withdraw due to a restriction within his Oregon severance package. I am unaware of any connection Livingood has with Montana. It's also not so clear why he would leave Arizona to jump to UNLV unless there was some pressure.
Most of the prominent Arizona boosters were unhappy with Livengood - especially the way the whole Lute Olson circus happened.
Livengood had already been informed that his contract (which was expiring) was NOT going to be renewed. :coffee:
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Mvemjsunpx wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
When it happens over and over again, maybe. JMU in 04', UR last yr, now Nova. Smashmouth football just rolling up the yardage on the ground, esp in the 2nd half.
The Griz were only run over completely in two of those. Richmond did run for 208, but they did nothing at all on offense in the second half. The Richmond pass rush won that game.

And how is two games "over & over again"? Remember the Griz were only allowing about 90 ypg coming into the title game and they are always one of the top run defenses in FCS each season.

Also, Villanova's offense isn't really "smashmouth". They run a spread option and never leave the shotgun. It's all about running around the end for them.
I would actually say it is a problem UM has when facing CAA teams. Hell, even in a win last year against JMU, the Dukes ran the ball down UM's throat to the tune of over 300 yards.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
Most of the prominent Arizona boosters were unhappy with Livengood - especially the way the whole Lute Olson circus happened.
Livengood had already been informed that his contract (which was expiring) was NOT going to be renewed. :coffee:
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Also, Villanova's offense isn't really "smashmouth". They run a spread option and never leave the shotgun. It's all about running around the end for them.
:lol:

Revisionist history. nova ran wide AND they ran up the gut...for big yardage. Frankly, they ran wherever and whenever they wanted to.

And yeah, bring up a safety... :lol: ...their QB was only 10-13 :shock: and hardly missed a pass in the 2nd half.

Lesser team? No way. nova was clearly better on both lines, had the better RB and LBs. The QBs were both good but different...but the Griz QB could not run. The nova DBs shut down the Griz receivers with the coverage adjustment and it was all over. Cripes, the Griz KNEW nova would run and still couldn't not stop them.

Montana and nova swapped mistakes in the first half but then nova just played basic run the ball football and the Griz simply got beat by a more physical team...again.
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Cluck U wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
Also, Villanova's offense isn't really "smashmouth". They run a spread option and never leave the shotgun. It's all about running around the end for them.
:lol:

Revisionist history. nova ran wide AND they ran up the gut...for big yardage. Frankly, they ran wherever and whenever they wanted to.

And yeah, bring up a safety... :lol: ...their QB was only 10-13 :shock: and hardly missed a pass in the 2nd half.

Lesser team? No way. nova was clearly better on both lines, had the better RB and LBs. The QBs were both good but different...but the Griz QB could not run. The nova DBs shut down the Griz receivers with the coverage adjustment and it was all over. Cripes, the Griz KNEW nova would run and still couldn't not stop them.

Montana and nova swapped mistakes in the first half but then nova just played basic run the ball football and the Griz simply got beat by a more physical team...again.
It really is embarrassing how little you know about football, especially considering how much you run your mouth about it. :ohno: :ohno:
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Cluck U wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
Also, Villanova's offense isn't really "smashmouth". They run a spread option and never leave the shotgun. It's all about running around the end for them.
:lol:

Revisionist history. nova ran wide AND they ran up the gut...for big yardage. Frankly, they ran wherever and whenever they wanted to.

And yeah, bring up a safety... :lol: ...their QB was only 10-13 :shock: and hardly missed a pass in the 2nd half.

Lesser team? No way. nova was clearly better on both lines, had the better RB and LBs. The QBs were both good but different...but the Griz QB could not run. The nova DBs shut down the Griz receivers with the coverage adjustment and it was all over. Cripes, the Griz KNEW nova would run and still couldn't not stop them.

Montana and nova swapped mistakes in the first half but then nova just played basic run the ball football and the Griz simply got beat by a more physical team...again.
While I agree with you, so did EVERY TEAM IN THE CAA this year. So, I guess the Griz would have fared alright in the mighty CAA... :thumb:
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Grizalltheway wrote:
It really is embarrassing how little you know about football, especially considering how much you run your mouth about it. :ohno: :ohno:
You're right...my bad. :oops: I needed to check my facts first. I was wrong when I wrote that Whitney "hardly missed a pass in the 2nd half".

In fact, he didn't miss a single pass in the second half. :lol:

So, genius, exactly what else did I say that you think was untrue? You certainly felt good about stepping forward to post something that you felt strongly about, so elaborate a bit...feel free to back it up. Perhaps you didn't see Ball running straight through the middle for big chunks of yards (maybe you were covering your eyes).

Cluck U wrote: :lol:

Revisionist history. nova ran wide AND they ran up the gut...for big yardage. Frankly, they ran wherever and whenever they wanted to. YES THEY DID. BALL AND COMPANY - INCLUDING SZCZUR AND WHITNEY - UP THE MIDDLE AND AROUND THE END...WHERE AM I WRONG?

And yeah, bring up a safety... :lol: ...their QB was only 10-13 :shock: and hardly missed a pass in the 2nd half. YOU HAVE ME HERE...HE IN FACT, DID NOT MISS A PASS IN THE SECOND HALF...WHAT WAS I THINKING?

Lesser team? No way. nova was clearly better on both linesNOVA'S O-LINE WAS SMOKING YOUR D-LINE AND LBS, AND NOVA'S D-LINE GOT THE BEST OF THE GRIZ O-LINE IN THE SECOND HALF...WHEN IT MATTERS, had the better RB WHO GOT THE MVP...WAS CHASE EVEN IN THE VOTING?and LBs. THE GRIZ LBS GOT SMOKED FOR RUN YARDAGE AND THEY CERTAINLY DIDN'T COVER ANYONE WELL The QBs were both good but different...but the Griz QB could not run. HOW MANY YARDS RUNNING DID THE GRIZ QB GET? The nova DBs shut down the Griz receivers with the coverage adjustment and it was all overDON'T TELL ME, MARIANI WASN'T COVERED, HE WAS JUST SICK OR SOMETHING AND DIDN'T FEEL WELL ENOUGH TO CATCH A PASS IN THE SECOND HALF. Cripes, the Griz KNEW nova would run and still couldn't not stop them. IF YOU ARGUE THIS POINT YOU LOSE ALL CREDIBILITY

Montana and nova swapped mistakes in the first half but then nova just played basic run the ball football and the Griz simply got beat by a more physical team NOVA WAS TOUGHER...PERIOD...again.
So, it appears you don't know much unless you can explain it better.
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AZGrizFan wrote: While I agree with you, so did EVERY TEAM IN THE CAA this year. So, I guess the Griz would have fared alright in the mighty CAA... :thumb:
Your right, they would have probably finished somewhere in the top 5. :nod: :thumb:
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Cluck U wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
Also, Villanova's offense isn't really "smashmouth". They run a spread option and never leave the shotgun. It's all about running around the end for them.
Revisionist history. nova ran wide AND they ran up the gut...for big yardage. Frankly, they ran wherever and whenever they wanted to.
Sorry, but you're flat wrong on that one. By my calculation (looking at the play-by-play in the box score), 287 of Villanova's 351 rushing yards were outside (or 287 of 370 if you take out the botched snap). The Wildcats only had one 20+ yard run inside, and that was a QB draw. Villanova's three longest runs were all outside runs (50, 40, 31) and none of them were by running backs (2 by Szczur and 1 by Whitney).

I think you also have a misunderstanding of what "smashmouth" is. Smashmouth is when you line up in a power formation (i.e. I-Form) and hand it off, usually up the middle. That was basically the offense that used to be run by App State and Northwestern St. before the middle of this decade. That's also what JMU essentially did in the '04 title game, which is totally different than what Nova did last week.

Lesser team? No way. nova was clearly better on both lines, had the better RB and LBs. The QBs were both good but different...but the Griz QB could not run. The nova DBs shut down the Griz receivers with the coverage adjustment and it was all over.
Who said Nova was a lesser team? I certainly didn't. They were definitely the better team on Friday, hence why they won. They weren't the better team by much, since they won by just 2, but they were clearly better.

Nova's O-Line clearly dominated UM's D-Line. I would dispute that they dominated the other side, though. The Griz had plenty of time to throw most every dropback.
Cripes, the Griz KNEW nova would run and still couldn't not stop them.
As I've said in other threads, this is where the Griz coaching staff deserves blame. Despite not being able to stop the run, Montana still lined up all their DBs (including corners) 10 yards off the line and refused to bring extra people in the box. Kraig Paulson has a history of being stubborn in these situations & refusing to adjust (the Wofford game in '07 and the Southern Utah game in '98 come to mind). Nova only threw one pass in the 4th. quarter (and it was a WR screen), yet the Griz D still acted like that's what they were most worried about.
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Cluck U wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
It really is embarrassing how little you know about football, especially considering how much you run your mouth about it. :ohno: :ohno:
You're right...my bad. :oops: I needed to check my facts first. I was wrong when I wrote that Whitney "hardly missed a pass in the 2nd half".

In fact, he didn't miss a single pass in the second half. :lol:

So, genius, exactly what else did I say that you think was untrue? You certainly felt good about stepping forward to post something that you felt strongly about, so elaborate a bit...feel free to back it up. Perhaps you didn't see Ball running straight through the middle for big chunks of yards (maybe you were covering your eyes).

Cluck U wrote: :lol:

Revisionist history. nova ran wide AND they ran up the gut...for big yardage. Frankly, they ran wherever and whenever they wanted to. YES THEY DID. BALL AND COMPANY - INCLUDING SZCZUR AND WHITNEY - UP THE MIDDLE AND AROUND THE END...WHERE AM I WRONG?

And yeah, bring up a safety... :lol: ...their QB was only 10-13 :shock: and hardly missed a pass in the 2nd half. YOU HAVE ME HERE...HE IN FACT, DID NOT MISS A PASS IN THE SECOND HALF...WHAT WAS I THINKING?

Lesser team? No way. nova was clearly better on both linesNOVA'S O-LINE WAS SMOKING YOUR D-LINE AND LBS, AND NOVA'S D-LINE GOT THE BEST OF THE GRIZ O-LINE IN THE SECOND HALF...WHEN IT MATTERS, had the better RB WHO GOT THE MVP...WAS CHASE EVEN IN THE VOTING?and LBs. THE GRIZ LBS GOT SMOKED FOR RUN YARDAGE AND THEY CERTAINLY DIDN'T COVER ANYONE WELL The QBs were both good but different...but the Griz QB could not run. HOW MANY YARDS RUNNING DID THE GRIZ QB GET? The nova DBs shut down the Griz receivers with the coverage adjustment and it was all overDON'T TELL ME, MARIANI WASN'T COVERED, HE WAS JUST SICK OR SOMETHING AND DIDN'T FEEL WELL ENOUGH TO CATCH A PASS IN THE SECOND HALF. Cripes, the Griz KNEW nova would run and still couldn't not stop them. IF YOU ARGUE THIS POINT YOU LOSE ALL CREDIBILITY

Montana and nova swapped mistakes in the first half but then nova just played basic run the ball football and the Griz simply got beat by a more physical team NOVA WAS TOUGHER...PERIOD...again.
So, it appears you don't know much unless you can explain it better.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Cluck U wrote:
:lol:

Revisionist history. nova ran wide AND they ran up the gut...for big yardage. Frankly, they ran wherever and whenever they wanted to.

And yeah, bring up a safety... :lol: ...their QB was only 10-13 :shock: and hardly missed a pass in the 2nd half.

Lesser team? No way. nova was clearly better on both lines, had the better RB and LBs. The QBs were both good but different...but the Griz QB could not run. The nova DBs shut down the Griz receivers with the coverage adjustment and it was all over. Cripes, the Griz KNEW nova would run and still couldn't not stop them.

Montana and nova swapped mistakes in the first half but then nova just played basic run the ball football and the Griz simply got beat by a more physical team...again.
While I agree with you, so did EVERY TEAM IN THE CAA this year. So, I guess the Griz would have fared alright in the mighty CAA... :thumb:
I think so. I think they go no worse than 8-3 and probably 9-2. Either way, they make the playoffs. :twocents:
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Grizalltheway wrote:
Cluck U wrote:
You're right...my bad. :oops: I needed to check my facts first. I was wrong when I wrote that Whitney "hardly missed a pass in the 2nd half".

In fact, he didn't miss a single pass in the second half. :lol:

So, genius, exactly what else did I say that you think was untrue? You certainly felt good about stepping forward to post something that you felt strongly about, so elaborate a bit...feel free to back it up. Perhaps you didn't see Ball running straight through the middle for big chunks of yards (maybe you were covering your eyes).




So, it appears you don't know much unless you can explain it better.
See mdfljoixereouisd's post. :coffee:
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BlueHen86 wrote:
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While I agree with you, so did EVERY TEAM IN THE CAA this year. So, I guess the Griz would have fared alright in the mighty CAA... :thumb:
I think so. I think they go no worse than 8-3 and probably 9-2. Either way, they make the playoffs. :twocents:
With the possibility of being in that 4-team circle-jerk where each beat one of the others and lost to one of the others.
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Well, Monday is over folks. Y'all got a new coach yet?
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I think so. I think they go no worse than 8-3 and probably 9-2. Either way, they make the playoffs. :twocents:
With the possibility of being in that 4-team circle-jerk where each beat one of the others and lost to one of the others.
UM would fit right in with the CAA circle jerkers. :lol:
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Mvemjsunpx wrote:Sorry, but you're flat wrong on that one. By my calculation (looking at the play-by-play in the box score), 287 of Villanova's 351 rushing yards were outside (or 287 of 370 if you take out the botched snap). The Wildcats only had one 20+ yard run inside, and that was a QB draw. Villanova's three longest runs were all outside runs (50, 40, 31) and none of them were by running backs (2 by Szczur and 1 by Whitney).
So you are braggin that your team only gave up 83 yards between the tackles?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Smash mouth football is more about the o-line blowing up the d-line rather than the formation behind it.

Accept the fact that your team got whipped up on and get over it already. When Towson got destroyed by the Wildcats I admitted up to it. I said, "Best team I have seen all year." I didn't go on and on about how of the 282 yards rushing we gave up 82 of it was on one run.
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andy7171 wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:Sorry, but you're flat wrong on that one. By my calculation (looking at the play-by-play in the box score), 287 of Villanova's 351 rushing yards were outside (or 287 of 370 if you take out the botched snap). The Wildcats only had one 20+ yard run inside, and that was a QB draw. Villanova's three longest runs were all outside runs (50, 40, 31) and none of them were by running backs (2 by Szczur and 1 by Whitney).
So you are braggin that your team only gave up 83 yards between the tackles?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Smash mouth football is more about the o-line blowing up the d-line rather than the formation behind it.

Accept the fact that your team got whipped up on and get over it already. When Towson got destroyed by the Wildcats I admitted up to it. I said, "Best team I have seen all year." I didn't go on and on about how of the 282 yards rushing we gave up 82 of it was on one run.
...wait sec. You guys gave up a hundred more yards on the ground than TOWSON!?! :shock: :rofl:
Andy, this is for you...
It is a FACT that Towson State would qualify for the playoffs next year for the first time EVER if they played in the Big Sky instead of the CAA. :thumb:
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Yeah, but we'd go 7-4 and get run out in the first round Weber State style though.
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