Tighter security taken on U.S.-bound travel

[dbackjon]

Extra pat-downs before boarding. No getting up for the last hour of the flight. More bomb-sniffing dogs. Airports worldwide tightened security a day after a passenger tried to light some kind of explosive on a flight into Detroit.

NBC News reports the new steps include:

Pat downs of passengers at airport security, concentrating on the upper torso and legs;
Physical inspections of all carry-on bags at the gate;
Requiring all passengers to be seated for the full hour prior to arrival;
Banning the use of blankets and pillows one hour prior to arrival.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34595552/ns ... s-security

[AZGrizFan]

JFC. BLANKETS??? PILLOWS???? Now, more than ever, I will NOT be flying unless absolutely necessary.

[clenz]

the answer is simple, just lock the damn doors...ask mainejeff. That will prevent attacks

[Ivytalk]

The answer is simple. Don't let any mofo named Ahmad or Yousef or Muhammad from a majority-Muslim country board a US-bound flight if he pays cash for a one-way ticket without luggage. Especially if he straps an incendiary device to his Nads. AZZHOLES!!

[JayJ79]

terrorist!!!!!!!!

[BlueHen86]

Another example of us be reactive instead of proactive. We continue to respond to threats with stupid knee jerk responses, passengers suffer and I don't think we're any safer.

[Ivytalk]

terrorist!!!!!!!!

DAMMRIGHT! LOOKIT THEM MUZLIM DREADS! CHANGE HIS NAME TO JIM-BOB! NOBODY IN DA WEST CAROLINA HILLS NAMED YO-SEF!

[JayJ79]

not that anyone here really cares, but that Jesus dude's ("step")dad was named Yousef.

[Ivytalk]

not that anyone here really cares, but that Jesus dude's ("step")dad was named Yousef.

Joseph. And he was Jewish.

[mainejeff]

the answer is simple, just lock the damn doors...ask mainejeff. That will prevent attacks

It would have prevented the 9-11 attacks......at least the way that they happened, a-hole.

How's your Koran study going?

[BlueHen86]

the answer is simple, just lock the damn doors...ask mainejeff. That will prevent attacks

It would have prevented the 9-11 attacks......at least the way that they happened, a-hole.

How's your Koran study going?

You dont know that MJ. You are underestimating our enemy. They figured out how to take over, fly and crash planes into buildings they might have been able to figure out a lock.

[mainejeff]

It would have prevented the 9-11 attacks......at least the way that they happened, a-hole.

How's your Koran study going?

You dont know that MJ. You are underestimating our enemy. They figured out how to take over, fly and crash planes into buildings they might have been able to figure out a lock.

With a box cutter?

[BlueHen86]

You dont know that MJ. You are underestimating our enemy. They figured out how to take over, fly and crash planes into buildings they might have been able to figure out a lock.

With a box cutter?

If there locks on the cockpit doors the terrorists probably would have known and planned accordingly.

Also, FWIW - they took over 4 planes using box cutters. Who would have thought that pre-9/11?

[JayJ79]

not that anyone here really cares, but that Jesus dude's ("step")dad was named Yousef.

Joseph. And he was Jewish.

Both Yousef and Joseph are translations from the same Hebrew (or whatever) name that he actually used.

[Col Hogan]

It would have prevented the 9-11 attacks......at least the way that they happened, a-hole.

How's your Koran study going?

You dont know that MJ. You are underestimating our enemy. They figured out how to take over, fly and crash planes into buildings they might have been able to figure out a lock.

MJ is partially right...more right than wrong...

The 9-11 hijackings were successful because the procedures at the time left the un-reinforced doors unlocked...and if a hijacker asked they were brought forward to the flight cabin to negotiate...

Well, we now know there was no negotiation intended on that Tuesday...but if the doors had been reinforced like they are now (and had been recommended long before 9-11) and the flight crew refused to open the door even if people were threathened (as they are suppose to do now)...the attack would have failed...some flight attendants and/or passengers might have been cut or killed with the box cutters, but the planes would not have been flown into buildings...

Hind sight is so 20/20....

[Wedgebuster]

^^^ We were told to cower like baby rabbits in case of hijackings, now we know we must take our security in our own hands, and fight for our lives if necessary in those instances.

Long held theory in my part of the country is that your first line of defense is you, the cops can only make it to the scene to oversee the clean up. Don't see any dirka dirkas hanging around my town.

BTW, due to the gross oversupply of guns and ammo in our regional sporting goods, they are having 20% off sales, and employee pricing!!

Seems the "Obama is gonna take our guns and ammo" freaks finally got their basements stocked up and their credit cards maxed out.

[BlueHen86]

You dont know that MJ. You are underestimating our enemy. They figured out how to take over, fly and crash planes into buildings they might have been able to figure out a lock.

MJ is partially right...more right than wrong...

The 9-11 hijackings were successful because the procedures at the time left the un-reinforced doors unlocked...and if a hijacker asked they were brought forward to the flight cabin to negotiate...

Well, we now know there was no negotiation intended on that Tuesday...but if the doors had been reinforced like they are now (and had been recommended long before 9-11) and the flight crew refused to open the door even if people were threathened (as they are suppose to do now)...the attack would have failed...some flight attendants and/or passengers might have been cut or killed with the box cutters, but the planes would not have been flown into buildings...

Hind sight is so 20/20....

But that is the problem. In all likelyhood the flight crew would have opened the door since the mindset at the time was to cooperate and negotiate with hijackers in order to insure the safety of the passengers.


Post 9-11 there is no way a flight crew would open the door. I think reinforcing the doors and putting locks on them is a great idea, but I'm not sure they would have prevented 9-11 had they been in place at that time.

[Appaholic]

The answer is simple. Don't let any mofo named Ahmad or Yousef or Muhammad from a majority-Muslim country board a US-bound flight if he pays cash for a one-way ticket without luggage. Especially if he straps an incendiary device to his Nads. AZZHOLES!!

Or better yet, just don't allow anyone that the UK has placed on their No-Fly list & we have placed on our own Terror Watch list....why is this so frigging hard? Can we officially say that CAPPS II is a failure yet? Heads should roll beginnig with Napolitano.....

[AZGrizFan]

The answer is simple. Don't let any mofo named Ahmad or Yousef or Muhammad from a majority-Muslim country board a US-bound flight if he pays cash for a one-way ticket without luggage. Especially if he straps an incendiary device to his Nads. AZZHOLES!!

Or better yet, just don't allow anyone that the UK has placed on their No-Fly list & we have placed on our own Terror Watch list....why is this so frigging hard? Can we officially say that CAPPS II is a failure yet? Heads should roll beginnig with Napolitano.....

I haven't been following this too closely....are you saying this joker was ON the no-fly list?

[danefan]

Even worse than just being a no-fly list - looks like he didn't even have a passport and was escorted on the flight by a well-dressed man.

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index ... _at_l.html

If you expect to fly to the US from a third-world country be prepared to get off the plan at your layover and go through security screening again.

How in the world can we trust a country like Nigeria with our security?

[kalm]

While Mutallab was poorly dressed, his friend was dressed in an expensive suit, Haskell said. He says the suited man asked ticket agents whether Mutallab could board without a passport. “The guy said, 'He's from Sudan and we do this all the time.'”


Mutallab is Nigerian. Haskell believes the man may have been trying to garner sympathy for Mutallab's lack of documents by portraying him as a Sudanese refugee.


The ticket agent referred Mutallab and his companion to her manager down the hall, and Haskell didn't see Mutallab again until after he allegedly tried to detonate an explosive on the plane.

Unbelievable.

Looks like we're either going to have to attack Nigeria, Sudan, and Yemen, or actually start enforcing some regulations.

[AZGrizFan]

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said the government will investigate its systems for placing suspicious travelers on watch lists and for detecting explosives before passengers board flights.

Here's the joke of our system: AZGrizFan is on the no-fly list. That's right, that's what 22 years of military service gets you, apparently. I do NOT have the ability to check in remotely, and must stand in line each time, show my passport or other government issued ID, and am constantly subjected to additional security checks. Don't ask me HOW, or WHY, but I'm on the list and it's difficult to get off the list.

THAT'S how flawed the system is, despite that dyke Napolitano's reassurances to the contrary.

[BlueHen86]

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said the government will investigate its systems for placing suspicious travelers on watch lists and for detecting explosives before passengers board flights.

Here's the joke of our system: AZGrizFan is on the no-fly list. That's right, that's what 22 years of military service gets you, apparently. I do NOT have the ability to check in remotely, and must stand in line each time, show my passport or other government issued ID, and am constantly subjected to additional security checks. Don't ask me HOW, or WHY, but I'm on the list and it's difficult to get off the list.

THAT'S how flawed the system is, despite that dyke Napolitano's reassurances to the contrary.

Perhaps your days as "AGS Troublemaker" caught up with you?

[Appaholic]

Or better yet, just don't allow anyone that the UK has placed on their No-Fly list & we have placed on our own Terror Watch list....why is this so frigging hard? Can we officially say that CAPPS II is a failure yet? Heads should roll beginnig with Napolitano.....

I haven't been following this too closely....are you saying this joker was ON the no-fly list?

Not on the US No Fly List, but the UK's....and the US Terror Watch list.....

[Appaholic]

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said the government will investigate its systems for placing suspicious travelers on watch lists and for detecting explosives before passengers board flights.

Here's the joke of our system: AZGrizFan is on the no-fly list. That's right, that's what 22 years of military service gets you, apparently. I do NOT have the ability to check in remotely, and must stand in line each time, show my passport or other government issued ID, and am constantly subjected to additional security checks. Don't ask me HOW, or WHY, but I'm on the list and it's difficult to get off the list.

THAT'S how flawed the system is, despite that dyke Napolitano's reassurances to the contrary.

Damn near impossible to get off the list....thank you for your service...