Gitmo's Alumni Update

[AZGrizFan]

Thank you D1B and Skjelly for showing the conks that there beloved Evangelicals here in the US DO support the death penatly for gays.

Of course, none of that sinks in to the thick-skulls, because that challenges their beliefs, and the moral superiority that they claim over the evil Muslim bastards.

So Warren declares Uganda a "purpose driven" country, and Coburn calls it his adopted country. Just out of curiousity, when and how did Uganda develop it's "christian" values and from who?

This is the problem when you expose a rigid, black and white belief on a underdeveloped and violent culture.

I don't think most fundies actually support the death penalty for gays, it's more of a tacit approval. But I hope they're freaked out at the prospect that they're not really that far removed it.

Say WHAT?

[andy7171]

I'm a bit of a dope. Can someone tell me what a fundementalist and a evangelical is and where they fall in the Christian denomination flow chart?

Fundamentalists = every word of their religious text of choice is true
Evangelical = Born again is the hoopla with these cats

So fundamentalist are the ones who believe the world in only 5000 some years old?

I don't understand the whole born again thing either.

[Grizalltheway]

Fundamentalists = every word of their religious text of choice is true
Evangelical = Born again is the hoopla with these cats

So fundamentalist are the ones who believe the world in only 5000 some years old?

I don't understand the whole born again thing either.

It means they weren't raised believers, or turned their back on God and eventually came back to him, or some BS like that.

[andy7171]

So fundamentalist are the ones who believe the world in only 5000 some years old?

I don't understand the whole born again thing either.

It means they weren't raised believers, or turned their back on God and eventually came back to him, or some BS like that.

Yeah, I got that, but I don't see then reasoning to get up in everyones business. Every encounter I have had with one of these born again types is they feel the need to have Jesus save me, right there on the spot.

[Chizzang]

It means they weren't raised believers, or turned their back on God and eventually came back to him, or some BS like that.

Yeah, I got that, but I don't see then reasoning to get up in everyones business. Every encounter I have had with one of these born again types is they feel the need to have Jesus save me, right there on the spot.

Yup...
They're pretty excited about Jesus
I worked with a Born again guy (many many years ago) and he was usually very frustrated with me

Apparently most people just ignore them - and they get used to that - I however enjoyed engaging him in lively animated debate... the more excited he got I tried to get measurably just as excited...

he eventually came to HATE me - it took a really long time - ignoring them is faster and easier

[andy7171]

Yeah, I got that, but I don't see then reasoning to get up in everyones business. Every encounter I have had with one of these born again types is they feel the need to have Jesus save me, right there on the spot.

Yup...
They're pretty excited about Jesus
I worked with a Born again guy (many many years ago) and he was usually very frustrated with me

Apparently most people just ignore them - and they get used to that - I however enjoyed engaging him in lively animated debate... the more excited he got I tried to get measurably just as excited...

he eventually came to HATE me - it took a really long time - ignoring them is faster and easier

I usually respond to them by saying "How do you know he hasn't already?" And they usually act indignant when upon finding I go to church more often than they do.

[Chizzang]

Yup...
They're pretty excited about Jesus
I worked with a Born again guy (many many years ago) and he was usually very frustrated with me

Apparently most people just ignore them - and they get used to that - I however enjoyed engaging him in lively animated debate... the more excited he got I tried to get measurably just as excited...

he eventually came to HATE me - it took a really long time - ignoring them is faster and easier

I usually respond to them by saying "How do you know he hasn't already?" And they usually act indignant when upon finding I go to church more often than they do.

That's a a good one...
"Oh really, wow... I heard he already did..? You mean you missed it... dude..!!!" There's a mind fuck for ya- right there....

My favorite was explaining that I absolutely believed in God, in fact I explained that I am an expert on God... this is met with much resistance and disbelief - I eventually shared with him the secret to all life...

Everybody already knows everything they need to know about God - it's just a matter of believing what they already know - and most of our lives we are being separated from God and interestingly enough it seems that sometimes Religion is the largest device or organism used to separate humans from God

I'm just sayin'

[CID1990]

I'm thinking that Ugandans must be really easy to control if a few Christian ministers can cause such an immediate, hitherto unknown hatred of gays.

Wow. Culture counts for nothing when it suits the argument.

Who would have known that to prevent the genocide in Rwanda all we would had to do was send Jerry Falwell over there to tell them not to do it!

Sounds like more of the Overseer/Field Hand mindset of the left, a la Barbara Boxer.

[D1B]

Thank you D1B and Skjelly for showing the conks that there beloved Evangelicals here in the US DO support the death penatly for gays.

Of course, none of that sinks in to the thick-skulls, because that challenges their beliefs, and the moral superiority that they claim over the evil Muslim bastards.

You are REALLY not on your game today...

Enlightening reply, Joltin Joe.

[AZGrizFan]

You are REALLY not on your game today...

Enlightening reply, Joltin Joe.

Thanks, beelzebub.

[Skjellyfetti]

I'm thinking that Ugandans must be really easy to control if a few Christian ministers can cause such an immediate, hitherto unknown hatred of gays.

Wow. Culture counts for nothing when it suits the argument.

Who would have known that to prevent the genocide in Rwanda all we would had to do was send Jerry Falwell over there to tell them not to do it!

Sounds like more of the Overseer/Field Hand mindset of the left, a la Barbara Boxer.

It's not just ministers. It's Congressmen and Senators (Democrat and Republican). The President of Uganda that has been pushing this bill has been invited to the National Prayer Breakfast hosted by "The Family" or "The Fellowship" that I posted about earlier. They (Brownback, Inhofe, Coburn, etc.) award HEAPS of money to Uganda to "fight" AID'S through absitence education. Surely you can see the allure of money to a poor African nation, right? Yeah, Ugandans are easy to control if you have heaps of money to throw at them (oh, and that's while preaching fiscal conservativism ).

[D1B]

I'm thinking that Ugandans must be really easy to control if a few Christian ministers can cause such an immediate, hitherto unknown hatred of gays.

Wow. Culture counts for nothing when it suits the argument.

Who would have known that to prevent the genocide in Rwanda all we would had to do was send Jerry Falwell over there to tell them not to do it!

Sounds like more of the Overseer/Field Hand mindset of the left, a la Barbara Boxer.

It's not just ministers. It's Congressmen and Senators (Democrat and Republican). The President of Uganda that has been pushing this bill has been invited to the National Prayer Breakfast hosted by "The Family" or "The Fellowship" that I posted about earlier. They (Brownback, Inhofe, Coburn, etc.) award HEAPS of money to Uganda to "fight" AID'S through absitence education. Surely you can see the allure of money to a poor African nation, right? Yeah, Ugandans are easy to control if you have heaps of money to throw at them (oh, and that's while preaching fiscal conservativism ).

Zoltin Zoe, Tbag.......crickets.....

[CID1990]

It's not just ministers. It's Congressmen and Senators (Democrat and Republican). The President of Uganda that has been pushing this bill has been invited to the National Prayer Breakfast hosted by "The Family" or "The Fellowship" that I posted about earlier. They (Brownback, Inhofe, Coburn, etc.) award HEAPS of money to Uganda to "fight" AID'S through absitence education. Surely you can see the allure of money to a poor African nation, right? Yeah, Ugandans are easy to control if you have heaps of money to throw at them (oh, and that's while preaching fiscal conservativism ).

Zoltin Zoe, Tbag.......crickets.....

We've been dumping rubbers on them for 20 years. Bush comes along and triples aid to Africa and now everybody's up in arms about the result. Unintended consequences? Certainly.

That being said, I would suggest that some of you take a look at the country reports by the State Dept as well as CIA. Many countries in Africa that did not benefit from our 'proselytizing' already have laws against homosexuality. Many of those laws have been in place since there were laws. Zimbabwe is one.

Heck, take a look at www.talesmag.com. Lok at the post reports. Each survey has a specific question about what the situation for gays is in each country. Take a look at all the African countries.

The most plausible explanation is that a bunch of ministers went into Uganda preaching the same old same old abstinence, blah blah homosexuality is a sin, blah blah, and people who were already inclined to homophobia as well as violence took it too far. I am not so sure that Americans went into Uganda thinking, "Let's take all this money and get the Africans to kill all the queers."

Seems to me that people who are so worried about the left creating atheistic anarchy in America are not going to waste that much time and energy on some pissant backwater in Africa, but then again there's too much tinfoil and not enough heads to put it on around here.

Dback you just stay over here and we'll protect you from the big bad boogeymen preachers.

[travelinman67]

...I am not so sure that Americans went into Uganda thinking, "Let's take all this money and get the Africans to kill all the queers."

Nay, CID1990...

...didn't you read Jellydonut's interview transcript about "The Family".

Super secret dark society of "hateful Christians and Evangelicals" that run the country.

We meet annually in Cape Girardeau...

...just past the Wal Mart at Exit 132...

...in the old Masonic Lodge...

... to figure out which country we'll give money to for killing the queers.

Personally, I'd like to see more spent on Iran...

...could probably get them to match our contribution.

[D1B]

...I am not so sure that Americans went into Uganda thinking, "Let's take all this money and get the Africans to kill all the queers."

Nay, CID1990...

...didn't you read Jellydonut's interview transcript about "The Family".

Super secret dark society of "hateful Christians and Evangelicals" that run the country.

We meet annually in Cape Girardeau...

...just past the Wal Mart at Exit 132...

...in the old Masonic Lodge...

... to figure out which country we'll give money to for killing the queers.

Personally, I'd like to see more spent on Iran...

...could probably get them to match our contribution.

Pretty bad stuff for someone claiming to be a christian.

Not a super secret society at all. Shit was and is mainstream news. Stay tuned, bigot.

[AZGrizFan]

Not a super secret society at all. Shit was and is mainstream news. Stay tuned, bigot.

I must be hangin' with the wrong Christians.

[travelinman67]

Not a super secret society at all. Shit was and is mainstream news. Stay tuned, bigot.

I must be hangin' with the wrong Christians.

As a a white male bank CEO, your admission is a given. I'll send you an application in the mail.

BTW...noobies have to buy refreshments for their first meeting. You can stop in the Wal Mart and pick up some of those miniature cinammon pecan swirls and pork rinds.