Pot Legalization to CA ballot in November?

[Appaholic]

Don't the anti-smoking rules and regulations apply to pot smoking as much as they do to tobacco smoking?

Not if it's for medicinal use.

A few weeks back, a local reporter walked into pot "dispensary" asked where to get a medical "prescription" and was referred to a local clinic. He walked in, paid $95, told the attending NP he had a back ache, and 30 min. later had a prescription.

There's nothing legit about the folks who want to legalize it...they'll lie, steal, break any law, or fabricate any excuse to get stoned...

...which is why I'm against it.

Stoners have no integrity.

Nor do the lawmakers who continually use hysteria & ignorance & "children's safety" to criminalize a plant that can be grown in your backyard, therefore, harder to tax & control.......same reason they continue to enforce moonshine laws...

[Grizalltheway]

Not if it's for medicinal use.

A few weeks back, a local reporter walked into pot "dispensary" asked where to get a medical "prescription" and was referred to a local clinic. He walked in, paid $95, told the attending NP he had a back ache, and 30 min. later had a prescription.

There's nothing legit about the folks who want to legalize it...they'll lie, steal, break any law, or fabricate any excuse to get stoned...

...which is why I'm against it.

Stoners have no integrity.

Nor do the lawmakers who continually use hysteria & ignorance & "children's safety" to criminalize a plant that can be grown in your backyard, therefore, harder to tax & control.......same reason they continue to enforce moonshine laws...

+1

[JayJ79]

Don't the anti-smoking rules and regulations apply to pot smoking as much as they do to tobacco smoking?

Not if it's for medicinal use.

So if it is for "medicinal use", a person could smoke pot in a non-smoking restaurant?
I doubt that.

[D1B]

Don't the anti-smoking rules and regulations apply to pot smoking as much as they do to tobacco smoking?

Not if it's for medicinal use.

A few weeks back, a local reporter walked into pot "dispensary" asked where to get a medical "prescription" and was referred to a local clinic. He walked in, paid $95, told the attending NP he had a back ache, and 30 min. later had a prescription.

There's nothing legit about the folks who want to legalize it...they'll lie, steal, break any law, or fabricate any excuse to get stoned...

...which is why I'm against it.

Stoners have no integrity.

[D1B]

Not if it's for medicinal use.

So if it is for "medicinal use", a person could smoke pot in a non-smoking restaurant?
I doubt that.

Jay, fuck Tman. He's a fat, bored schlubb who gets off pissing on others over the internet. Move on, he aint worth the keystrokes.

[travelinman67]

So if it is for "medicinal use", a person could smoke pot in a non-smoking restaurant?
I doubt that.

Jay, fuck Tman. He's a fat, bored schlubb who gets off pissing on others over the internet. Move on, he aint worth the keystrokes.

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...you're so easy...

[polsongrizz]

The libs out here are pulling all stops to make all tobacco products illegal...under the guise of health concerns...

...and doing everything they can to legalize smoking marijuana.




nuff said

Sucking smoke into your lungs is not healthy no matter what form it is in. But you can't convince me that marijuana is as bad for you as cigarette smoke. Apples and Oranges.

There are a hundred different ways to use weed that have nothing to do with smoking. And if you still want to smoke you can use a vaporizer pipe to get rid of the bad crap.
Only two ways to use tabaccy and both suck, smoke it or chew it. Not to mention weed is weed tabaccy is a shit load of crap. Here is a partial list of the 599 added ingrediants...

# Arsenic used in rat poison
# Acetic Acid hair dye and photo developer
# Acetone main ingredient in paint and fingernail polish remover
# Ammonia a typical household cleaner
# Benzene rubber cement
# Cadmium found in batteries and artists' oil paint
# Carbon Monoxide poison
# Hydrazine used in jet and rocket fuels
# Formaldehyde used to embalm dead bodies
# Hydrogen Cyanide poison in gas chambers
# Napthalenes used in explosives, moth balls, and paint pigments
# Nickel used in the process of electroplating
# Phenol used in disinfectants and plastics
# Polonium radiation dosage, equal to 300 chest X-rays in one year
# Toluene embalmer's glue

Yeah boy, that is some good shit there. Dumb Fucks

[ASUMountaineer]

Nor do the lawmakers who continually use hysteria & ignorance & "children's safety" to criminalize a plant that can be grown in your backyard, therefore, harder to tax & control.......same reason they continue to enforce moonshine laws...

+1

+2

[danefan]

Looks like it may not need to get to a referendum:
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/politics ... 22877.html

The first step to legalize marijuana in California could happen Tuesday.

Lawmakers will vote on Assembly Bill 390 -- legislation to tax and regulate marijuana. The assembly's Public Safety Committee is expected to vote after a hearing that begins at 9 a.m. hearing.

The bill, authored by San Francisco Assemblyman Tom Ammiano, would essentially treat pot the same way alcohol is treated under the law and would allow adults over 21 to possess, smoke and grow marijuana.

The law would also call for a fee of $50 per ounce sold and would help fund drug eradication and awareness programs. It could help pull California out of debt, supporters say, raising up to $990 million from the fees.

This is the first time in U.S. history any state legislative body has ever considered repealing marijuana prohibition, which has been in place since 1913.

[SeattleGriz]

this would help with their financial situation for sure.

It would, but will CA learn anything? I just read over the programs that Arnold is talking about cutting to try and close the budget deficit and it is staggering. All the programs are medical and really make you see how they are entitling their state to these deficits.

[Appaholic]

this would help with their financial situation for sure.

It would, but will CA learn anything?

Good one SeaGriz... ...woooo...."will CA learn anything", he says... ...of course not! Why should they? The voters keep returning the culprits to office regardless.....

[AK Lurker]

The libs out here are pulling all stops to make all tobacco products illegal...under the guise of health concerns...

...and doing everything they can to legalize smoking marijuana.




nuff said

Sucking smoke into your lungs is not healthy no matter what form it is in. But you can't convince me that marijuana is as bad for you as cigarette smoke. Apples and Oranges.

BTK, dude, the ganj we grow up here isn't called "wheelchair" for nothing. Its a gazillion times more potent than what the mainstream hippies of the 70s toked on. But if grits are legal, then...um...er...what was i gonna say?

[AK Lurker]

oh yeah.

Tax the fook out of it. yah. or something like that.

Dammit. I lost my keyboard again.

[death dealer]

Don't the anti-smoking rules and regulations apply to pot smoking as much as they do to tobacco smoking?

Not if it's for medicinal use.

A few weeks back, a local reporter walked into pot "dispensary" asked where to get a medical "prescription" and was referred to a local clinic. He walked in, paid $95, told the attending NP he had a back ache, and 30 min. later had a prescription.

There's nothing legit about the folks who want to legalize it...they'll lie, steal, break any law, or fabricate any excuse to get stoned...

...which is why I'm against it.

Stoners have no integrity.

Now you and I are gonna fight. I know lots of stoners. I'm a stoner. And I can tell you, the people I know personally with the most integrity are all stoners. Their are bad eggs in every group, but I'll take a room full of good old stoners over a meeting of the young republicans any old day.

[Grizalltheway]

Not if it's for medicinal use.

A few weeks back, a local reporter walked into pot "dispensary" asked where to get a medical "prescription" and was referred to a local clinic. He walked in, paid $95, told the attending NP he had a back ache, and 30 min. later had a prescription.

There's nothing legit about the folks who want to legalize it...they'll lie, steal, break any law, or fabricate any excuse to get stoned...

...which is why I'm against it.

Stoners have no integrity.

Now you and I are gonna fight. I know lots of stoners. I'm a stoner. And I can tell you, the people I know personally with the most integrity are all stoners. Their are bad eggs in every group, but I'll take a room full of good old stoners over a meeting of the young republicans any old day.

[death dealer]

And no, if legalized, it would be no less illegal for you to toke up indoors in a smoke free state like Florida than to light a marlboro. And if it's legalized and regulated, people won't have to play the system to get what they want. It's simple. People want to smoke dope. It's only associated with criminals because the govt. criminalized it.

[travelinman67]

...And if it's legalized and regulated, people will extrapolate one mistake into the motivation to seek decriminalization of all drugs. It's simple. I want to smoke dope. It's only associated with criminals because once a person steps over the legal line and allows otherwise "illegal" psychoactive chemicals to override the risk of incarceration and professional apocalypse, taking the next step to rationalize other criminal behavior is a common mis-step.

There.

Once good generalization deserves another.

[Wedgebuster]

Pot should be required for all citizens, three times daily.

Guarantee we'd all get along with one another much better.

[Appaholic]

...And if it's legalized and regulated, people will extrapolate one mistake into the motivation to seek decriminalization of all drugs. It's simple. I want to smoke dope. It's only associated with criminals because once a person steps over the legal line and allows otherwise "illegal" psychoactive chemicals to override the risk of incarceration and professional apocalypse, taking the next step to rationalize other criminal behavior is a common mis-step.

There.

Once good generalization deserves another.

like prohibition?

[death dealer]

...And if it's legalized and regulated, people will extrapolate one mistake into the motivation to seek decriminalization of all drugs. It's simple. I want to smoke dope. It's only associated with criminals because once a person steps over the legal line and allows otherwise "illegal" psychoactive chemicals to override the risk of incarceration and professional apocalypse, taking the next step to rationalize other criminal behavior is a common mis-step.

There.

Once good generalization deserves another.

Personal apocalypse? That's gotta be one of your best.

You are wrong. People who want to partake have to deal with criminals to obtain what they want. If you made the stuff available and regulated it just as you do alcohol, those folks would not have to cross the legal line, as you say.

As to the slippery slope argument, that's exactly the logic used by prohibitionists with alcohol. There are some drugs that shouldn't be widely available. Granted, I've tried most of them, and have to say, the only one I didn't enjoy was speed, but I don't want them available for purchase at the corner mart. Pot is an exception to that rule. It is safe and no more addictive or problematic for habitual users than hooch. So if booze is legal, so should pot be.

[houndawg]

I don't think their should be laws about the weed either pro or con. Having said that, I'm not so sure that we shouldn't leave it illegal. The marijauana economy is worth several billion nationwide and keeps a lot of folk off of welfare.

Market stability in these volatile times.

[CID1990]

I have always been a proponent of legalizing all currently controlled substances. Pot, cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine, you name it. Make it all legal.

My only beef with legalizing these things in the past was that I didn't want to see tax dollars going to treat junkies for chronic illnesses cused by abusing these substances.

Maybe our upcoming Big Brother healthcare system will penalize people with crack-swollen tickers. After all, with government healthcare, your problems become my business.

[houndawg]

Don't the anti-smoking rules and regulations apply to pot smoking as much as they do to tobacco smoking?

Not if it's for medicinal use.

A few weeks back, a local reporter walked into pot "dispensary" asked where to get a medical "prescription" and was referred to a local clinic. He walked in, paid $95, told the attending NP he had a back ache, and 30 min. later had a prescription.

There's nothing legit about the folks who want to legalize it...they'll lie, steal, break any law, or fabricate any excuse to get stoned...

...which is why I'm against it.

Stoners have no integrity.

Here's a guy raised in northern California for chrissakes, in the 1970s who thinks that hordes of people are anxious to smoke dope but waiting until they get a scrip.


Way out of touch, bro; must have been raised in a commune way up in the hills with no electricity or communication.

Stoners have orders of magnitude more integrity than bankers.

[houndawg]

I have always been a proponent of legalizing all currently controlled substances. Pot, cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine, you name it. Make it all legal.

My only beef with legalizing these things in the past was that I didn't want to see tax dollars going to treat junkies for chronic illnesses cused by abusing these substances.

Maybe our upcoming Big Brother healthcare system will penalize people with crack-swollen tickers. After all, with government healthcare, your problems become my business.

Good point, but the cost of treatment is spitting in the ocean compared to the cost of treating prescription junkies.

[travelinman67]

Not if it's for medicinal use.

A few weeks back, a local reporter walked into pot "dispensary" asked where to get a medical "prescription" and was referred to a local clinic. He walked in, paid $95, told the attending NP he had a back ache, and 30 min. later had a prescription.

There's nothing legit about the folks who want to legalize it...they'll lie, steal, break any law, or fabricate any excuse to get stoned...

...which is why I'm against it.

Stoners have no integrity.

Here's a guy raised in northern California for chrissakes, in the 1970s who thinks that hordes of people are anxious to smoke dope but waiting until they get a scrip.

Actually, hempdawg, I just had dinner on Wed. with a group of friends who brought along a "third wheel", a stoner/baby boomer gal in her mid 50's who never matured (much like yourself) who hasn't bought much dope over the past year due to her fear of going into bad neighborhoods (and dealing with bad people) to buy her pot. One of her new year resolutions is to get a scrip so she can buy from dispensaries.

Much of this legalization crap emanates from the baby boomer/stoners reaching the age where their Honda Pilots look out of place in ghetto projects, or they don't want to get cold having to park around the corner and walk two blocks to buy from the no'er do well 36 yr old full-time student who sells dope, yet still asks Mommy and Daddy to pay his rent.

A drive-through solution for a generation of fast-food stoners/losers.

And the government gets a cut too.