Pot Legalization to CA ballot in November?

[houndawg]

Here's a guy raised in northern California for chrissakes, in the 1970s who thinks that hordes of people are anxious to smoke dope but waiting until they get a scrip.

Actually, hempdawg, I just had dinner on Wed. with a group of friends who brought along a "third wheel", a stoner/baby boomer gal in her mid 50's who never matured (much like yourself) who hasn't bought much dope over the past year due to her fear of going into bad neighborhoods (and dealing with bad people) to buy her pot. One of her new year resolutions is to get a scrip so she can buy from dispensaries.

Much of this legalization crap emanates from the baby boomer/stoners reaching the age where their Honda Pilots look out of place in ghetto projects, or they don't want to get cold having to park around the corner and walk two blocks to buy from the no'er do well 36 yr old full-time student who sells dope, yet still asks Mommy and Daddy to pay his rent.

A drive-through solution for a generation of fast-food stoners/losers.

And the government gets a cut too.

Either you're from some parallel universe or you need to cut back your own consumption of the Blessed Herb.

at ghetto projects full of 36 year-old full time students; you're slacking off T; your BS used to be halfway believable, now you just seem like some sad little old man who has watched his life pass uneventfully by and just knows that if only he could have another try at life he's sure he could get it right this time......T'bag, you stop by here when you make your trip to the crossroads and we'll break out some Shawnee-Romulan/AK47 cross and do a little pickin, your friend will be amazed at the change and you might even become popular enough to find a second friend....

(Every backyard in CA has had pot in it for the last 40 years, there is nobody out there waiting for the legal OK to start smoking weed.)

[BDKJMU]

The libs out here are pulling all stops to make all tobacco products illegal...under the guise of health concerns...

...and doing everything they can to legalize smoking marijuana.




nuff said

Sucking smoke into your lungs is not healthy no matter what form it is in. But you can't convince me that marijuana is as bad for you as cigarette smoke. Apples and Oranges.

Simple. Do a study. Have one group smoke a pack (20) cigarettes a day for a decade. Have another group smoke 20 joints a day for a decade. See which group at the end has more health issues. My $ would be on the 20 joints a day.

[BDKJMU]

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/politics ... 04947.html

The Tax and Regulate Initiative has far more than the nearly 434,000 signatures needed to make the statewide ballot, said Richard Lee, well-known Oakland medical marijuana entrepreneur and the initiative's main backer. Campaign organizers say they will submit more than 650,000 signatures of registered voters next month.

The proposal would legalize possession of up to one ounce of marijuana for adults 21 and older. Residents could cultivate marijuana gardens up to 25 square feet. City and county governments would determine whether to permit and tax marijuana sales within their boundaries.

Tax the hell out of it.

If you taxed it too high then people would just get it on the black market.

[D1B]

Sucking smoke into your lungs is not healthy no matter what form it is in. But you can't convince me that marijuana is as bad for you as cigarette smoke. Apples and Oranges.

Simple. Do a study. Have one group smoke a pack (20) cigarettes a day for a decade. Have another group smoke 20 joints a day for a decade. See which group at the end has more health issues. My $ would be on the 20 joints a day.

A decade long study is simple?

Anyway, your methodology is wrong, at least on the pot end. 20 cigarrettes may be near the average smokers daily intake, give or take. The average pot smoker maybe smokes a joint or two a week, give or take. The average pot smoker is recreational and not habitual.

No one has ever died of pot. 100,000 people a day die from cigarrette smoke.

[D1B]

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/politics ... 04947.html





Tax the hell out of it.

If you taxed it too high then people would just get it on the black market.

No, they would just grow it, or go without until demand drives prices down. Pot is not addictive like cocaine or heroin.

[DJH]

Simple. Do a study. Have one group smoke a pack (20) cigarettes a day for a decade. Have another group smoke 20 joints a day for a decade. See which group at the end has more health issues. My $ would be on the 20 joints a day.

A decade long study is simple?

Anyway, your methodology is wrong, at least on the pot end. 20 cigarrettes may be near the average smokers daily intake, give or take. The average pot smoker maybe smokes a joint or two a week, give or take. The average pot smoker is recreational and not habitual.

No one has ever died of pot. 100,000 people a day die from cigarrette smoke.

Where do you get this "smokeless" pot?

[BDKJMU]

Simple. Do a study. Have one group smoke a pack (20) cigarettes a day for a decade. Have another group smoke 20 joints a day for a decade. See which group at the end has more health issues. My $ would be on the 20 joints a day.

A decade long study is simple?

Anyway, your methodology is wrong, at least on the pot end. 20 cigarrettes may be near the average smokers daily intake, give or take. The average pot smoker maybe smokes a joint or two a week, give or take. The average pot smoker is recreational and not habitual.

No one has ever died of pot. 100,000 people a day die from cigarrette smoke.

Yeah, I know no one smokes 20 joints a day like a lot of smokers smoke a pack a day. I was simply stating a one to one comparison (one cigarette vs one unfiltered joint), I think the joint is worse. Both of them contain lots of chemicals that aren't good for you.

True, its never been proven anyone has died of pot, but as is the case with smokers, a lot of people in the medical field believe heavy pot smokers are at increased risk for lung cancer. But you could say the same thing about about fat ass heavy junk food eaters who have increased risks of heart attacks. But the junk food doesn't kill them, a heart attack does.

100k people a day die from cigarette smoke??? (which would be roughly 36 million a year). Link??

[D1B]

A decade long study is simple?

Anyway, your methodology is wrong, at least on the pot end. 20 cigarrettes may be near the average smokers daily intake, give or take. The average pot smoker maybe smokes a joint or two a week, give or take. The average pot smoker is recreational and not habitual.

No one has ever died of pot. 100,000 people a day die from cigarrette smoke.

Yeah, I know no one smokes 20 joints a day like a lot of smokers smoke a pack a day. I was simply stating a one to one comparison (one cigarette vs one unfiltered joint), I think the joint is worse. Both of them contain lots of chemicals that aren't good for you.

True, its never been proven anyone has died of pot, but as is the case with smokers, a lot of people in the medical field believe heavy pot smokers are at increased risk for lung cancer. But you could say the same thing about about fat ass heavy junk food eaters who have increased risks of heart attacks. But the junk food doesn't kill them, a heart attack does.

100k people a day die from cigarette smoke??? (which would be roughly 36 million a year). Link??

I understand. I'm just saying the 1 to 1 comparison is relatively meaninless for your argument. I agree, smoking anything is bad for your lungs, but cigarrettes are way worse.

Pot like alcohol and coffee, is a good thing for the responsible.

[D1B]

A decade long study is simple?

Anyway, your methodology is wrong, at least on the pot end. 20 cigarrettes may be near the average smokers daily intake, give or take. The average pot smoker maybe smokes a joint or two a week, give or take. The average pot smoker is recreational and not habitual.

No one has ever died of pot. 100,000 people a day die from cigarrette smoke.

Where do you get this "smokeless" pot?

In your mother's panties. WTF?

[Grizalltheway]

A decade long study is simple?

Anyway, your methodology is wrong, at least on the pot end. 20 cigarrettes may be near the average smokers daily intake, give or take. The average pot smoker maybe smokes a joint or two a week, give or take. The average pot smoker is recreational and not habitual.

No one has ever died of pot. 100,000 people a day die from cigarrette smoke.

Where do you get this "smokeless" pot?

Hash brownies? Hell, as has already been mentioned in this thread, a vaporizer will get rid of most of the nasty shit before it gets to your lungs.

[travelinman67]

Actually, hempdawg, I just had dinner on Wed. with a group of friends who brought along a "third wheel", a stoner/baby boomer gal in her mid 50's who never matured (much like yourself) who hasn't bought much dope over the past year due to her fear of going into bad neighborhoods (and dealing with bad people) to buy her pot. One of her new year resolutions is to get a scrip so she can buy from dispensaries.

Much of this legalization crap emanates from the baby boomer/stoners reaching the age where their Honda Pilots look out of place in ghetto projects, or they don't want to get cold having to park around the corner and walk two blocks to buy from the no'er do well 36 yr old full-time student who sells dope, yet still asks Mommy and Daddy to pay his rent.

A drive-through solution for a generation of fast-food stoners/losers.

And the government gets a cut too.

Either you're from some parallel universe or you need to cut back your own consumption of the Blessed Herb.

at ghetto projects full of 36 year-old full time students; you're slacking off T; your BS used to be halfway believable, now you just seem like some sad little old man who has watched his life pass uneventfully by and just knows that if only he could have another try at life he's sure he could get it right this time......T'bag, you stop by here when you make your trip to the crossroads and we'll break out some Shawnee-Romulan/AK47 cross and do a little pickin, your friend will be amazed at the change and you might even become popular enough to find a second friend....

(Every backyard in CA has had pot in it for the last 40 years, there is nobody out there waiting for the legal OK to start smoking weed.)

You know not what you speak, hempdawg. I have many friends out here who still partake. NONE grow their own. Most comes from Asian and Mexican gang house operations done in leased housing. The large "forest" operation product from the North Coast and Foothills is shipped out of state.

Growing hybrids like #7 is very labor intensive and require culling 80% of the seedlings (male). Furthermore, the utility companies work in conjunction with the DEA to identify mom & pop growers, hence, for the "average" user, the time and risks are too great to justify the savings.

Try again.

[Purple For Life]

Would it be too crazy to tell T to light one up and mellow out?

http://www.breakthematrix.com/Alternati ... ver-Funded

[D1B]

Either you're from some parallel universe or you need to cut back your own consumption of the Blessed Herb.

at ghetto projects full of 36 year-old full time students; you're slacking off T; your BS used to be halfway believable, now you just seem like some sad little old man who has watched his life pass uneventfully by and just knows that if only he could have another try at life he's sure he could get it right this time......T'bag, you stop by here when you make your trip to the crossroads and we'll break out some Shawnee-Romulan/AK47 cross and do a little pickin, your friend will be amazed at the change and you might even become popular enough to find a second friend....

(Every backyard in CA has had pot in it for the last 40 years, there is nobody out there waiting for the legal OK to start smoking weed.)

You know not what you speak, hempdawg. I have many friends out here who still partake. NONE grow their own. Most comes from Asian and Mexican gang house operations done in leased housing. The large "forest" operation product from the North Coast and Foothills is shipped out of state.

Growing hybrids like #7 is very labor intensive and require culling 80% of the seedlings (male). Furthermore, the utility companies work in conjunction with the DEA to identify mom & pop growers, hence, for the "average" user, the time and risks are too great to justify the savings.

Try again.

Tbag, again, yawn, stick to GW threads and petty harrassment of every post I make, or better yet - wine - you don't know what the fuck you're talkin bout here.

BTW, all these "freinds" of yours who smoke? I'm sure they're all losers too.

[Wedgebuster]

Seems to be a link here common to the polarized sides in the now aging debate over whether or not Iraq perpetrated the attacks of 9/11/01.

Could it be that those who feel the "war on drugs" which is really a "war on pot" is ridiculous, are also to a person those who believe the invasion of Iraq was unnecessary, while those who believe Hussein had a major role in the attacks are the same who think this "war on pot" is justified, and therefore essential?

[D1B]

Seems to be a link here common to the polarized sides in the now aging debate over whether or not Iraq perpetrated the attacks of 9/11/01.

Could it be that those who feel the "war on drugs" which is really a "war on pot" is ridiculous, are also to a person those who believe the invasion of Iraq was unnecessary, while those who believe Hussein had a major role in the attacks are the same who think this "war on pot" is justified, and therefore essential?

Tbag just abhors hippies or really anyone who was smart enough not to buy in to his nightmare of alcholism and wasting your life chasing money and ghosts.

[Wedgebuster]

Seems to be a link here common to the polarized sides in the now aging debate over whether or not Iraq perpetrated the attacks of 9/11/01.

Could it be that those who feel the "war on drugs" which is really a "war on pot" is ridiculous, are also to a person those who believe the invasion of Iraq was unnecessary, while those who believe Hussein had a major role in the attacks are the same who think this "war on pot" is justified, and therefore essential?

Tbag just abhors hippies or really anyone who was smart enough not to buy in to his nightmare of alcholism and wasting your life chasing money and ghosts.

Not just him, it appears to me nearly across the board! I'M CERIAL!

[Wedgebuster]

Perhaps this needs study, if a judicious amount of THC helps block the neanderthal and ID dwelling human penchant to find reason to slaughter one another and replace it with a desire to improve and build, maybe the ultimate use for mother natures herb has now been discovered, by me.

Just IMAGINE!!

[Appaholic]

Here's a guy raised in northern California for chrissakes, in the 1970s who thinks that hordes of people are anxious to smoke dope but waiting until they get a scrip.

Actually, hempdawg, I just had dinner on Wed. with a group of friends who brought along a "third wheel", a stoner/baby boomer gal in her mid 50's who never matured (much like yourself) who hasn't bought much dope over the past year due to her fear of going into bad neighborhoods (and dealing with bad people) to buy her pot. One of her new year resolutions is to get a scrip so she can buy from dispensaries.

Much of this legalization crap emanates from the baby boomer/stoners reaching the age where their Honda Pilots look out of place in ghetto projects, or they don't want to get cold having to park around the corner and walk two blocks to buy from the no'er do well 36 yr old full-time student who sells dope, yet still asks Mommy and Daddy to pay his rent.

A drive-through solution for a generation of fast-food stoners/losers.

And the government gets a cut too.

That should be your wet dream TMan....a liberal financing his liberal utopian ideals through his habit instead of the backs of property-tax paying, responsible individuals.....now, if we could just get the Cali Agrifarms to pay the TRUE cost of water transport......

[death dealer]

Complete and utter bullshit. You are about as far off the mark as you could possibly be. As a 40 something stoner, I know the facts of the situation. And while your gross generalizations may hit the mark with a few people here and there, by far, they are way off the mark. Why don't you go pour yourself a scotch and shut the fuck up.


Here's a guy raised in northern California for chrissakes, in the 1970s who thinks that hordes of people are anxious to smoke dope but waiting until they get a scrip.

Actually, hempdawg, I just had dinner on Wed. with a group of friends who brought along a "third wheel", a stoner/baby boomer gal in her mid 50's who never matured (much like yourself) who hasn't bought much dope over the past year due to her fear of going into bad neighborhoods (and dealing with bad people) to buy her pot. One of her new year resolutions is to get a scrip so she can buy from dispensaries.

Much of this legalization crap emanates from the baby boomer/stoners reaching the age where their Honda Pilots look out of place in ghetto projects, or they don't want to get cold having to park around the corner and walk two blocks to buy from the no'er do well 36 yr old full-time student who sells dope, yet still asks Mommy and Daddy to pay his rent.

A drive-through solution for a generation of fast-food stoners/losers.

And the government gets a cut too.

Why don't you go drown yourself in a scotch and STFU.

[BDKJMU]

Sucking smoke into your lungs is not healthy no matter what form it is in. But you can't convince me that marijuana is as bad for you as cigarette smoke. Apples and Oranges.

There are a hundred different ways to use weed that have nothing to do with smoking. And if you still want to smoke you can use a vaporizer pipe to get rid of the bad crap.
Only two ways to use tabaccy and both suck, smoke it or chew it. Not to mention weed is weed tabaccy is a **** load of crap. Here is a partial list of the 599 added ingrediants...

# Arsenic used in rat poison
# Acetic Acid hair dye and photo developer
# Acetone main ingredient in paint and fingernail polish remover
# Ammonia a typical household cleaner
# Benzene rubber cement
# Cadmium found in batteries and artists' oil paint
# Carbon Monoxide poison
# Hydrazine used in jet and rocket fuels
# Formaldehyde used to embalm dead bodies
# Hydrogen Cyanide poison in gas chambers
# Napthalenes used in explosives, moth balls, and paint pigments
# Nickel used in the process of electroplating
# Phenol used in disinfectants and plastics
# Polonium radiation dosage, equal to 300 chest X-rays in one year
# Toluene embalmer's glue

Link???

[Grizalltheway]

There are a hundred different ways to use weed that have nothing to do with smoking. And if you still want to smoke you can use a vaporizer pipe to get rid of the bad crap.
Only two ways to use tabaccy and both suck, smoke it or chew it. Not to mention weed is weed tabaccy is a **** load of crap. Here is a partial list of the 599 added ingrediants...

# Arsenic used in rat poison
# Acetic Acid hair dye and photo developer
# Acetone main ingredient in paint and fingernail polish remover
# Ammonia a typical household cleaner
# Benzene rubber cement
# Cadmium found in batteries and artists' oil paint
# Carbon Monoxide poison
# Hydrazine used in jet and rocket fuels
# Formaldehyde used to embalm dead bodies
# Hydrogen Cyanide poison in gas chambers
# Napthalenes used in explosives, moth balls, and paint pigments
# Nickel used in the process of electroplating
# Phenol used in disinfectants and plastics
# Polonium radiation dosage, equal to 300 chest X-rays in one year
# Toluene embalmer's glue

Link???

And it all becomes clear: bukakaJMU smokes cigs but not weed, and is using the technique of greater perils to ease his mind.

[BDKJMU]

Link???

And it all becomes clear: bukakaJMU smokes cigs but not weed, and is using the technique of greater perils to ease his mind.

No, why I find comical is just like people who are against smoking pot exaggerating its dangers, is people who are for smoking pot trying to deflect by exaggerating the dangers of smoking cigarettes.

After all, both can be grown in your backyard.

I don't smoke either, and gave up dip 6 years ago, but I do smoke the occasional (maybe a couple doz a year) cigar.

[Grizalltheway]

And it all becomes clear: bukakaJMU smokes cigs but not weed, and is using the technique of greater perils to ease his mind.

No, why I find comical is just like people who are against smoking pot exaggerating its dangers, is people who are for smoking pot trying to deflect by exaggerating the dangers of smoking cigarettes.

After all, both can be grown in your backyard.

I don't smoke either, and gave up dip 6 years ago, but I do smoke the occasional (maybe a couple doz a year) cigar.

But cigarettes aren't grown in your backyard...

[Appaholic]

No, why I find comical is just like people who are against smoking pot exaggerating its dangers, is people who are for smoking pot trying to deflect by exaggerating the dangers of smoking cigarettes.

After all, both can be grown in your backyard.

I don't smoke either, and gave up dip 6 years ago, but I do smoke the occasional (maybe a couple doz a year) cigar.

But cigarettes aren't grown in your backyard...

Agree....you can't roll up tobacco leaves to smoke & get same experience as cigarettes....I've tried....it sucks....

[D1B]

And it all becomes clear: bukakaJMU smokes cigs but not weed, and is using the technique of greater perils to ease his mind.

No, why I find comical is just like people who are against smoking pot exaggerating its dangers, is people who are for smoking pot trying to deflect by exaggerating the dangers of smoking cigarettes.

After all, both can be grown in your backyard.

I don't smoke either, and gave up dip 6 years ago, but I do smoke the occasional (maybe a couple doz a year) cigar.

You brought the issue up.