Pot Legalization to CA ballot in November?

[D1B]

There are a hundred different ways to use weed that have nothing to do with smoking. And if you still want to smoke you can use a vaporizer pipe to get rid of the bad crap.
Only two ways to use tabaccy and both suck, smoke it or chew it. Not to mention weed is weed tabaccy is a **** load of crap. Here is a partial list of the 599 added ingrediants...

# Arsenic used in rat poison
# Acetic Acid hair dye and photo developer
# Acetone main ingredient in paint and fingernail polish remover
# Ammonia a typical household cleaner
# Benzene rubber cement
# Cadmium found in batteries and artists' oil paint
# Carbon Monoxide poison
# Hydrazine used in jet and rocket fuels
# Formaldehyde used to embalm dead bodies
# Hydrogen Cyanide poison in gas chambers
# Napthalenes used in explosives, moth balls, and paint pigments
# Nickel used in the process of electroplating
# Phenol used in disinfectants and plastics
# Polonium radiation dosage, equal to 300 chest X-rays in one year
# Toluene embalmer's glue

Link???

Relax Baby Tbag, you think he just made this list up? Give me a fucking break. This is common knowledge contained in any tobacco or smoking info source.

[Grizo406]

I wonder if the folks at SKOAL have anything in the works if pot is legalized? Then, I wouldn't need a spit cup!!

[Pwns]

# Arsenic used in rat poison
# Acetic Acid hair dye and photo developer
# Acetone main ingredient in paint and fingernail polish remover
# Ammonia a typical household cleaner
# Benzene rubber cement
# Cadmium found in batteries and artists' oil paint
# Carbon Monoxide poison
# Hydrazine used in jet and rocket fuels
# Formaldehyde used to embalm dead bodies
# Hydrogen Cyanide poison in gas chambers
# Napthalenes used in explosives, moth balls, and paint pigments
# Nickel used in the process of electroplating
# Phenol used in disinfectants and plastics
# Polonium radiation dosage, equal to 300 chest X-rays in one year
# Toluene embalmer's glue

Yeah boy, that is some good **** there. Dumb Fucks

Not to mention it's safer than a lot of analgesics that are already on the market.

[D1B]

I wonder if the folks at SKOAL have anything in the works if pot is legalized? Then, I wouldn't need a spit cup!!

Chantix, brother.

[travelinman67]

Actually, hempdawg, I just had dinner on Wed. with a group of friends who brought along a "third wheel", a stoner/baby boomer gal in her mid 50's who never matured (much like yourself) who hasn't bought much dope over the past year due to her fear of going into bad neighborhoods (and dealing with bad people) to buy her pot. One of her new year resolutions is to get a scrip so she can buy from dispensaries.

Much of this legalization crap emanates from the baby boomer/stoners reaching the age where their Honda Pilots look out of place in ghetto projects, or they don't want to get cold having to park around the corner and walk two blocks to buy from the no'er do well 36 yr old full-time student who sells dope, yet still asks Mommy and Daddy to pay his rent.

A drive-through solution for a generation of fast-food stoners/losers.

And the government gets a cut too.

Why don't you go drown yourself in a scotch and STFU.

Did I mention that stoners have anger management issues too?

[D1B]

Why don't you go drown yourself in a scotch and STFU.

Did I mention that stoners have anger management issues too?

Tell me more about this gal in her mid 50's that you met for first time, yet know she's emotionally stunted and addicted to pot, but won't buy it cuz the only people in N. Cali (the pot capital of america) with dope are gang members from L.A.

[bench]

Just a disinterested observer passing through, but from what I've heard from the nays, their argument sounds an awful lot to me like Them's I don't like are farrit, so I'm aginnit.

[travelinman67]

Just a disinterested observer passing through, but from what I've heard from the nays, their argument sounds an awful lot to me like Them's I don't like are farrit, so I'm aginnit.

...and "Them's that'r aginnit I don't like, so I'm farrit."

[bench]

Just a disinterested observer passing through, but from what I've heard from the nays, their argument sounds an awful lot to me like Them's I don't like are farrit, so I'm aginnit.

...and "Them's that'r aginnit I don't like, so I'm farrit."

I'm just not seeing the irreparable social and moral harm that would come from legalizing and regulating pot. So it's gonna be damned impossible for you to find a bag of Funyuns. Big fucking deal. If the government and private industry can replace Chico with the SMG as your go-to guy for something that's no better and no worse than what you can get legally from Altria, MillerCoors, or Eli Lilly, that's a win, innit? Of course not, because GODDAMN HIPPIES, that's why.

If we're really going to outlaw something chemically and physically addictive that supposedly makes people act like assholes, we ought to go after your shitty Taster's Choice. You'd be all sorts of fucked, mi hombre grande

[travelinman67]

...and "Them's that'r aginnit I don't like, so I'm farrit."

I'm just not seeing the irreparable social and moral harm that would come from legalizing and regulating pot. So it's gonna be damned impossible for you to find a bag of Funyuns. Big fucking deal. If the government and private industry can replace Chico with the SMG as your go-to guy for something that's no better and no worse than what you can get legally from Altria, MillerCoors, or Eli Lilly, that's a win, innit? Of course not, because GODDAMN HIPPIES, that's why.

If we're really going to outlaw something chemically and physically addictive that supposedly makes people act like assholes, we ought to go after your shitty Taster's Choice. You'd be all sorts of fucked, mi hombre grande

So...

...pot should be legalized because the only folks who oppose it are those GODDAMN HYPOCRITES who partake caffeine and alcohol?

Got it.

[Appaholic]

I'm just not seeing the irreparable social and moral harm that would come from legalizing and regulating pot. So it's gonna be damned impossible for you to find a bag of Funyuns. Big fucking deal. If the government and private industry can replace Chico with the SMG as your go-to guy for something that's no better and no worse than what you can get legally from Altria, MillerCoors, or Eli Lilly, that's a win, innit? Of course not, because GODDAMN HIPPIES, that's why.

If we're really going to outlaw something chemically and physically addictive that supposedly makes people act like assholes, we ought to go after your shitty Taster's Choice. You'd be all sorts of fucked, mi hombre grande

So...

...pot should be legalized because the only folks who oppose it are those GODDAMN HYPOCRITES who partake caffeine and alcohol?

Got it.

And we should keep it outlawed because the only people who use it are OUTLAWS?....what were your thoughts on raising the speed limits from 55 to 70 on interstate highways? Do you still only drive 55?

[CID1990]

Legalize it... yeah... and I will advertise it....

[travelinman67]

So...

...pot should be legalized because the only folks who oppose it are those GODDAMN HYPOCRITES who partake caffeine and alcohol?

Got it.

And we should keep it outlawed because the only people who use it are OUTLAWS?....what were your thoughts on raising the speed limits from 55 to 70 on interstate highways? Do you still only drive 55?

I drive the speed limit.

















I have to. I already have a point on my record after my last speeding ticket two years ago in Monterey.

[Appaholic]

And we should keep it outlawed because the only people who use it are OUTLAWS?....what were your thoughts on raising the speed limits from 55 to 70 on interstate highways? Do you still only drive 55?

I drive the speed limit.

Nice non-answer legalese speak, JJ.....

If that law is fluid, why can't other laws be fluid? If people who were driving 55 are now driving 70, are they still morally lawbreakers? If the pot laws were changed, would you still consider a potsmoker to be morally an outlaw?

[travelinman67]

I drive the speed limit.

Nice non-answer legalese speak, JJ.....

If that law is fluid, why can't other laws be fluid? If people who were driving 55 are now driving 70, are they still morally lawbreakers? If the pot laws were changed, would you still consider a potsmoker to be morally an outlaw?

If child molestation was legalized, those who partake would still be pedophiles.

Though alcohol is legal, the abuse and societal carnage resulting from it's availibility is obviously well documented and visible to any person who pays attention.

The only four reasons to legalize marijuana would be:
To make available to users who otherwise wouldn't seek it due to lawful risks.
To make it easier to obtain (dispensaries, rather than from disreputable sources).
For government to tax regulate and corporations to monopolize the market.
For social workers to develop a cottage industry counseling it's abusers.

Tell me, Appa...

...how does this move our society forward?

[Grizo406]

I wonder if the folks at SKOAL have anything in the works if pot is legalized? Then, I wouldn't need a spit cup!!

Chantix, brother.

Not gonna' happen!

When the ads say "It isn't for everyone...", they sure got that part right!

[Grizo406]

Besides, I can quit when I want to!!

[Appaholic]

Nice non-answer legalese speak, JJ.....

If that law is fluid, why can't other laws be fluid? If people who were driving 55 are now driving 70, are they still morally lawbreakers? If the pot laws were changed, would you still consider a potsmoker to be morally an outlaw?

If child molestation was legalized, those who partake would still be pedophiles.

Though alcohol is legal, the abuse and societal carnage resulting from it's availibility is obviously well documented and visible to any person who pays attention.

The only four reasons to legalize marijuana would be:
To make available to users who otherwise wouldn't seek it due to lawful risks.
To make it easier to obtain (dispensaries, rather than from disreputable sources).
For government to tax regulate and corporations to monopolize the market.
For social workers to develop a cottage industry counseling it's abusers.

Tell me, Appa...

...how does this move our society forward?

& the reasons for keeping it illegal would be:

-to enable government agencies a means to pour money into the black hole that is "drug interdiction";
-to support the need for construction of more prisons & empowerment of prison lobby;
-to allow law enforcement the justification for searches & seizure at will to "combat the war on drugs";
-to placate old geezers like yourself who pine for the days of yore....

Tell me, TMan...

...how does our society move forward at all with over 130k of it's citizens incarcerated for felony marijuana convictions at a cost of over $85mil annually just to house them?

[youngterrier]

the only thing I could come up with:

[CID1990]

Legalize it all. The government has no business regulating the chemicals people put inside themselves. We don't regulate any other risky behaviors that don't affect the neighbors. Personally, I could use the entertainment. Anyone ever seen a smackhead on the nod? Or some stupid kid on acid? A crackwhore fvcking herself with a fork to entertain her dealer in return for a rock? I'm telling you, that sh!t is fvcking hilarious; what people will do to fry their fvcking brains out, and how they act when they are on the stuff.

Especially acid. I love that sh!t. I've seen prom queens strip bare fvcking naked in the middle of the road with their Baptist parents sobbing in the police station lobby afterwards.

Human wreckage. I get off on it. It's better than WWF and Springer all rolled into one.

That being said, law enforcement would be just as busy and spend just as much money on expensive detection for impairment and enforcement of DWI laws as we currently do in the war on drugs. My beliefs on this subject are strictly libertarian. I could give a sh!t about the money. The government isn't going to lower our taxes or quickly move to balance the budget if we suddenly end the war on drugs.

[Appaholic]

That being said, law enforcement would be just as busy and spend just as much money on expensive detection for impairment and enforcement of DWI laws as we currently do in the war on drugs. My beliefs on this subject are strictly libertarian. I could give a sh!t about the money. The government isn't going to lower our taxes or quickly move to balance the budget if we suddenly end the war on drugs.

Sad but true. Our taxes won't be lowered. But, I'd still rather keep beds in prison available for real threats to society instead of occupied by mandatory-minimum, non-violent offenders....

[Purple For Life]

Sad but true. Our taxes won't be lowered. But, I'd still rather keep beds in prison available for real threats to society instead of occupied by mandatory-minimum, non-violent offenders....

True dat.

[native]

Legalize it all. The government has no business regulating the chemicals people put inside themselves. We don't regulate any other risky behaviors that don't affect the neighbors. Personally, I could use the entertainment. Anyone ever seen a smackhead on the nod? Or some stupid kid on acid? A crackwhore fvcking herself with a fork to entertain her dealer in return for a rock? I'm telling you, that sh!t is fvcking hilarious; what people will do to fry their fvcking brains out, and how they act when they are on the stuff.

Especially acid. I love that sh!t. I've seen prom queens strip bare fvcking naked in the middle of the road with their Baptist parents sobbing in the police station lobby afterwards.

Human wreckage. I get off on it. It's better than WWF and Springer all rolled into one.

That being said, law enforcement would be just as busy and spend just as much money on expensive detection for impairment and enforcement of DWI laws as we currently do in the war on drugs. My beliefs on this subject are strictly libertarian. I could give a sh!t about the money. The government isn't going to lower our taxes or quickly move to balance the budget if we suddenly end the war on drugs.

Perhaps a return to true libertarianism is the only way to avoid our apparent march to national suicide.

[death dealer]

Either you're from some parallel universe or you need to cut back your own consumption of the Blessed Herb.

at ghetto projects full of 36 year-old full time students; you're slacking off T; your BS used to be halfway believable, now you just seem like some sad little old man who has watched his life pass uneventfully by and just knows that if only he could have another try at life he's sure he could get it right this time......T'bag, you stop by here when you make your trip to the crossroads and we'll break out some Shawnee-Romulan/AK47 cross and do a little pickin, your friend will be amazed at the change and you might even become popular enough to find a second friend....

(Every backyard in CA has had pot in it for the last 40 years, there is nobody out there waiting for the legal OK to start smoking weed.)

You know not what you speak, hempdawg. I have many friends out here who still partake. NONE grow their own. Most comes from Asian and Mexican gang house operations done in leased housing. The large "forest" operation product from the North Coast and Foothills is shipped out of state.

Growing hybrids like #7 is very labor intensive and require culling 80% of the seedlings (male). Furthermore, the utility companies work in conjunction with the DEA to identify mom & pop growers, hence, for the "average" user, the time and risks are too great to justify the savings.

Try again.

Back in the day, the house we lived in had a huge utility closet off the garage. We painted the window black, papered the walls with aluminum foil, and installed grow lights. We had 10-15 nice plants going at all times. Granted, it wasn't the best in the world, but it kept most of my fraternity stoned off their asses for relatively free, so we never complained. And I never once had a Duke power agent question my bill for overusage.

[Appaholic]

You know not what you speak, hempdawg. I have many friends out here who still partake. NONE grow their own. Most comes from Asian and Mexican gang house operations done in leased housing. The large "forest" operation product from the North Coast and Foothills is shipped out of state.

Growing hybrids like #7 is very labor intensive and require culling 80% of the seedlings (male). Furthermore, the utility companies work in conjunction with the DEA to identify mom & pop growers, hence, for the "average" user, the time and risks are too great to justify the savings.

Try again.

Back in the day, the house we lived in had a huge utility closet off the garage. We painted the window black, papered the walls with aluminum foil, and installed grow lights. We had 10-15 nice plants going at all times. Granted, it wasn't the best in the world, but it kept most of my fraternity stoned off their asses for relatively free, so we never complained. And I never once had a Duke power agent question my bill for overusage.

Those were the days....perusing junkyards to locate a working ballist, hooking up a timer for the grow lights, stocking up on aluminum foil, free QP's in the freezer....